Oh God ... *shakes head*
Bodybuilding 101: There are 3 criterium for judging.
a) Muscle Size (we both agree Ronnie wins)
b) Muscle Symmetry (Dorian has terrible symmetry, particularly his arms)
c) Muscle Maturity (Ronnie wins, hands down)
Its obvious from well over 200 pages of debate divided among multiple threads that you *think* Dorian Yates has better triceps. However, your opinion is not valid from the standpoint of the criteria official judges use to critique an Olympia-calibur physique. Bodybuilding is no doubt subjective, but at least there are some concrete grounds.
I'm sorry but you can't seriously argue that his triceps are better just because he has a pretty kink in his lateral head.
You ignore the fact that his lateral head, surgically implanted on Ronnie Coleman's arm, would look grossly undeveloped relative to Ronnie's long head. That said, Dorian Yate's lateral head actually OVERPOWERS his long head! That just goes to show how shitty his triceps are (relative to Coleman of course)!
Hell you could post a picture of Larry Scott and argue that his biceps are the best.
After all, he did invent the preacher curl and had quality muscle all along his insertion tendon.
His biceps are some of the best in history, taken in isolation, yet if you were to put him on stage with any competitor in 2004 to compare biceps, he would lose unanimously.
The same issue applies to Dorian. The judges could care less that his lateral head has a better shape ... when Coleman has far superior mass, conditioning, symmetry, density, and maturity. If bodybuilding was centered on the subjective aesthetic, like your argument, a mass monster would never win a contest.
Wrong! to better elucidate the situation for your gaming-geek ass, I will explain to you how a bodybuilding judging rules.
1. Muscularity: This is in relation to body size, and is dictated by how massively developed a muscle is, in relation to the bone girth that supports it. Muscularity is
NOT an absolute measure of "size" - as you put it -, but rather a measure of how far a man has taken his muscle size in relation to his bone structure. If this weren't the case, then Greg Kovacs, with his 28' arms, would be Mr.Olympia. The fact that muscularity is not dictated by absolute size is evident by the fact that Dorian defeated Haney at the muscularity round of the 91 O, even though they were roughly equivalent in size.
I'm sorry, bu Ronnie only matches Shadow, in muscularity, when he's 280+ lbs. When both are 250+ lbs, it's no contest: Dorian destroys him. Look at when they were both competing at 250+ lbs and Dorian got straight-firsts in the muscularity round at the O, while Coleman barely made the top ten. To mach Dorian for muscularity, Ronnie needs to be some 30+ lbs heavier than him. the proble is that he loses so much detail, hardness and striaions, at that bodyweight range, that it simply isn't worth it. Furthermore, even then, Ronnie only
MATCHES Dorian for muscularity - and still gets defeated when it comes to density and conditioning!

2. Musco-skeletal balance: Dorian wins hand down. At 250 lbs, Ronnie did have good muscular balance. But even then, his overall look was compromised in that he has a long waist, poor calves, abs and obliques, lats that insert high and deltoids were more massive than his pectoralis major. Buy he's still competitive, at least when it comes to muscle balance
When Ronnie is over 270 lbs and especially over 280 lbs, conversely,
BOTH his muscular and skeletal balance become terrible. He has a massive gut, little to none details on his abs and lats, severely reduced details on his quads, hams and delts. Also, at hat weight range, his lower body overpowers his upper body, due to his giant, shapeless quads and his delts-traps complex overpowers his chest and is overpowered by his waist. Ugly!

Terrible! The fact that you like his goes o show that you like the "World's Strongest Man" type of physique. While there's nothing wrong with that, it is simply not
BODYbuilding, but just plain
MASSbuilding.
3. Mandaories: This is where it all ties in together. In the mandaories, the judges analyse the bodybuilder's musculariy
WIHIN the symmetrical balance of the pose. The 250+ lbs Dorian would defeat the 250+ lbs Ronnie in
ALL mandaories, except perhaps the front double biceps. He would take Ronnie out even in the back double biceps!

Abs-and-thighs? Dorian. Most muscular? Tie. Rear lat spread? No contest: Dorian. Side triceps? Dorian. Dront double biceps? Dorian. Side chest? Dorian. Game over.
As you can see, saying that coleman would defeat Dorian, with boh of them being at their best bodyweight(250+ lbs) is just plain silly.

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