Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

Stock arguments:

-Yates calves and forearms compensate for serious deficiencies.

-Lighting

-Yates had lighter skin

-Examine the judges scoring!

And on and on..

Oh boy lol

[sculpture]

No not back to criteria that the judges are looking for as the sum of all parts equal the superior whole in this particular pose . and as far as mucsle muscle balance & proportion are conderned it isn't even close , sorry to burst your bubble sport , Dorian doesn't have shitty arms this is your bias overriding your objectivity his forearms are outstanding , his biceps are good and his triceps are great and the balance of the entire arm is a lot better than Colemans .

Strong bodyparts can be a weakness when they bring attention to much weaker ones , Ronnie has outstanding quads in terms of development and size and they scream " Hey look at how weak and undersized my calves are " so while you may not think so the judges do .

its a very good think you're not a judge .

Yawn. Where i have i heard this all before.

Dorian, i'm afraid does have shitty arms. His tris are average, his bi's appalling and his forearms, well does anyone care?

Theyre too small for his enormous torso.

Completely bereft of any discernible detail.

Dreadful shape.

Poor separation.

This is why yates has "shitty arms".

Don't ever insinuate theyre up their with the sports best because his "forearms are outstanding" and his "triceps are great".

Have you ever wondered why they look so bad despite your two afore mentioned assertions?

Thank god i wasnt a judge eh?

Hell yes. I 'd never of agreed with half of yates victories.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yawn. Where i have i heard this all before.

Dorian, i'm afraid does have shitty arms. His tris are average, his bi's appalling and his forearms, well does anyone care?

Theyre too small for his enormous torso.

Completely bereft of any discernible detail.

Dreadful shape.

Poor separation.

This is why yates has "shitty arms".

Don't ever insinuate theyre up their with the sports best because his "forearms are outstanding" and his "triceps are great".

Have you ever wondered why they look so bad despite your two afore mentioned assertions?

Thank god i wasnt a judge eh?

Hell yes. I 'd never of agreed with half of yates victories.

According to you but you've already established yourself as bias and clueless to the judging criteria . Ronnie needs more than great quads & biceps to win the entire pose and in all honesty he would win the front double biceps pose but thats okay Yates would easily win most of the others .

recgoniZe 

[sculpture]

Yes youre wonderfully educated yourself in the criteria after you mindlessly copy and pasted the text from another website.

Care to expand on any of my statements regarding yates half loaded guns

[suckmymuscle]

Yes dorian is really destroying ronnie isnt he? Different pose (actually ronnies not even posing), different lighting.

Great comparison sucky.

No really, you exceeded yourself here pal

  Well, considering how many shots of an off-season Dorian you Ronnie nut-milkers have posted and then compared to a contest-ready Ronnie, I think you wouldn't oppose me posting a single one of Ronnie bakstage. Mind you, that picture, although taken bakstage, was shot at the day of the contest and Ronnie is already oiled up! Ok, the lightning is not good there; I'll give you that. But still...I compared Ronnie in 2001 to Dorian at 1997, his worst shape ever and have clearly demonstrated that Dorian destroys him! No contest! Not only is Dorian 30 lbs heavier, he still has an etched six-pack, is as hard as ever and his fullness was at it's all time best.

  By every bodybuilding criteria imaginable, from muscularity to conditioning, the 1997 Dorian destroys the 2001 Ronnie. The latter's only shot would be if he had a better midsection than Dorian. But guess what? He doesen't: Dorian, weighing 30 lbs more, has abdominal and serratus separation than Ronnie and Ronnie's midsection is just as distended as Dorian's. Seriously, "Sculpture", you have just raped yourself in the ass and lost any potential credibility by arguing that Ronnie was great in 2001: not only does Dorian, at his absolute worst, kill Ronnie's version at that year's contest, but so did Cutler!

  Just for you, Dorian's etched abdominals, at over 270 lbs...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[sculpture]

Interesting sucky.

Whats your opinion on this shot?

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[Shockwave]

Hah. Shockwave the loser

Nice. It was a joke, dick.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yes youre wonderfully educated yourself in the criteria after you mindlessly copy and pasted the text from another website.

Care to expand on any of my statements regarding yates half loaded guns

Yes the text is from the I.F.B.B. website and its the criteria used to judge the professional mens contests and I've been educated on the judging criteria since when I first got interested in bodybuilding back in 1985 when I bought Arnold Schwarzenegger Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding which I might add have read from cover to cover at least 4 times , and my critiques while I'll admit may not be 100% accurate are reached withn objectivity & honesty and without bias and encompasing all of the judging criteria which the same can't said for you , who picks & chooses what they like more than then other and toss out the rest .

Thats the difference between you and I , I don't dislike Ronnie its apparent you clearly dislike Dorian , my position is if they meet at their respective primes I think it would be close and Dorian would edge out Ronnie , and your position is Dorian shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Ronnie   but in the end its just the opinion of a couple of bodybuilding fans and not much more.

[suckmymuscle]

Interesting sucky.

Whats your opinion on this shot?

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  Not nearly as bad as Ronnie, in 2001. Hey, I mean, at least Dorian was 270 lbs, had incredible fullness, hardness and an etched six-pack! Ronnie was 240 lbs, flat, holding water and had abdominal distension! Seriouslyu, it's lights out for Ronnie! Dorian, at a 30 lbs heavier weight, was fuller, harder, had better abs and his gut distension was only as bad as Ronnie's in 2001. The fact that you defend Ronnie even at his worst showing ever goes to show your bias.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

 Not nearly as bad as Ronnie, in 2001. Hey, I mean, at least Dorian was 270 lbs, had incredible fullness, hardness and an etched six-pack! Ronnie was 240 lbs, flat, holding water and had abdominal distension! Seriouslyu, it's lights out for Ronnie! Dorian, at a 30 lbs heavier weight, was fuller, harder, had better abs and his gut distension was only as bad as Ronnie's in 2001. The fact that you defend Ronnie even at his worst showing ever goes to show your bias.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Ronnie had a gut and he has carrying a ton of water , he was clearly off . Yates had a gut but he was dry as hell all of his 270lbs was muscle his problems lied in tears not conditioning .

[Bear]

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This has probably already been posted but in the above video he has insane size and shape, completely unbelievable. Although some may see it as the beginning of the end because he was beginning to show signs of a future gut, the sheer power f his physique is mind blowing. And as the commentary says: Yates and Haney were known for their backs but Ronnie's is the best in history.

[NarcissisticDeity]

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This has probably already been posted but in the above video he has insane size and shape, completely unbelievable. Although some may see it as the beginning of the end because he was beginning to show signs of a future gut, the sheer power f his physique is mind blowing. And as the commentary says: Yates and Haney were known for their backs but Ronnie's is the best in history.

Whats ironic is that while his back is thick & wide and has good separation its not even close in terms of hardness or detail compared to Dorian and Ronnie is carrying water in his back , I don't know who the commentator was but his assesment isn't 100% acurate .

[sculpture]

Yes the text is from the I.F.B.B. website and its the criteria used to judge the professional mens contests and I've been educated on the judging criteria since when I first got interested in bodybuilding back in 1985 when I bought Arnold Schwarzenegger Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding which I might add have read from cover to cover at least 4 times , and my critiques while I'll admit may not be 100% accurate are reached withn objectivity & honesty and without bias and encompasing all of the judging criteria which the same can't said for you , who picks & chooses what they like more than then other and toss out the rest .

Thats the difference between you and I , I don't dislike Ronnie its apparent you clearly dislike Dorian , my position is if they meet at their respective primes I think it would be close and Dorian would edge out Ronnie , and your position is Dorian shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Ronnie   but in the end its just the opinion of a couple of bodybuilding fans and not much more.

Wrong. Its all too apparent you dislike ronnie. Ever since youve been on this board you've done nothing but bash the current champ. Its been discussed in countless other threads in the past how you often judged bbers simply based on whether you like who they are - this is no exception. Don't spit out your bullshit rhetoric such as "i feel dorian would edge ronnie out at their respective peaks" its all too transparent that you don't feel this way so stop trying to appear impartial and magnaminous.

You've constantly jumped from one bber and tried to champion them in an  attempt to discredit ronnie coleman. Its been cormier, jackson, haney, hell, you've even tried using steve reeves in your arguments.

No you don't dislike coleman at all.  

I've watched you even have the gall to tear apart another members physique and insult them after they had the courage to post pics of themselves, yet provide no evidence of your physique. Is this your great judging?

Absolutley appaling behaviour.

[pumpster]

Quote from: pumpster on Today at 10:35:01 AM
Stock arguments:

-Yates calves and forearms compensate for serious deficiencies.

-Lighting

-Yates had lighter skin

-Examine the judges scoring!

And on and on..


Oh boy lol

Thanks for the reminder! Forgot "lol"

[sculpture]

Whats ironic is that while his back is thick & wide and has good separation its not even close in terms of hardness or detail compared to Dorian and Ronnie is carrying water in his back , I don't know who the commentator was but his assesment isn't 100% acurate .

Of course its not. He stated ronnies back is the best ever.

And you dont agree with this

[NarcissisticDeity]

Wrong. Its all too apparent you dislike ronnie. Ever since youve been on this board you've done nothing but bash the current champ. Its been discussed in countless other threads in the past how you often judged bbers simply based on whether you like who they are - this is no exception. Don't spit out your bullshit rhetoric such as "i feel dorian would edge ronnie out at their respective peaks" its all too transparent that you don't feel this way so stop trying to appear impartial and magnaminous.

You've constantly jumped from one bber and tried to champion them in an  attempt to discredit ronnie coleman. Its been cormier, jackson, haney, hell, you've even tried using steve reeves in your arguments.

No you don't dislike coleman at all.  

I've watched you even have the gall to tear apart another members physique and insult them after they had the courage to post pics of themselves, yet provide no evidence of your physique. Is this your great judging?

Absolutley appaling behaviour.

Wrong . much like your ability to accurately comprehend the I.F.B.B. judging criteria you've failed in your attempt to speak for me . I don't dislike Ronnie if that was the case I would have jumped on the bandwagon when people make fun of his speech and his ability to articulate himself I dare you to find me one single post where I've contributed in this and good luck because you'll need it .

Ronnie Coleman gets credit for being an amazing bodydbuilder and I've maintained that in 96 all the way up to his gut started hanging out all over the place . and I do absolutely think there are much better bodybuilders than Ronnie thats my opinion and I stand by them.

and which members phsyique have I torn apart? please provide proof with the claim and this has nothing to do with me , nice back peddle . I'm usally very good with giving members a postive post when they post pics , including Matt Canning , mesomorph , Rhino , Mike Arvilla  and others , so please show me where I ripped someone apart and if I did I'll stand by it.

And nice deflection its you who obviously hates Dorian maybe you have your reason , maybe he didn't give you an autograph maybe like pumpster you seen him with his hand on his g/f's ass and concluded he was ' surly ' maybe its because he's white ? so again sport Ronnie Coleman used to be great thats past tense and if you look at pics of Ronnie from 98 vs now its 180 degrees but like a typical Coleman fan you see what you want.

Oh and I'm not the member who claimed to have better arms than Dorian 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Of course its not. He stated ronnies back is the best ever.

And you dont agree with this

Samir Bannout stated Dorian's back was the best ever and he is apparently more knowledgeable then this guy . and I just happen to agree . 

hell Ronnie even even said in 2003 that Dorian has the thickest & freakiest back he ever seen .

[sculpture]

Oh and I'm not the member who claimed to have better arms than Dorian 

Don't believe i ever did. You read what you want. And whats become painfully obvious from this thread is that you don't have a sense of humour nor recognise a joke when you see one.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Don't believe i ever did. You read what you want. And whats become painfully obvious from this thread is that you don't have a sense of humour nor recognise a joke when you see one.

Ah maybe I do and its you who isn't getting it  anyway you made the claim I've torn members apart I don't recall this if you can provide a thread I'll be more than happy to respond .

[pumpster]

whats become painfully obvious from this thread is that you don't have a sense of humour nor recognise a joke when you see one.

Let's see if ND or cognitively challenged SUCKMYDICK get these..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Let's see if ND or cognitively challenged SUCKMYDICK get these..

Never seen those before . 

[LyricTenor]

I think it was matarazzo (sp?) giving commentary at the 2000 O.  Maybe someone said that already. eh

[pumpster]

Quote from: suckmymuscle on Today at 11:26:50 AM
 Not nearly as bad as Ronnie, in 2001.

SUCKMYDICK solidifying an air-tight case for Coleman with impressive shots of Coleman! Thanks man! SUCKY, how do these two compare? hahhahahahahahahahaah

[sculpture]

They tie for guts but dorian gets creamed on upper body muscularity , chest fullness, arms, vascularity, detail.

Must i go on?

[NarcissisticDeity]

They tie for guts but dorian gets creamed on upper body muscularity , chest fullness, arms, vascularity, detail.

Must i go on?

Dorian is dry as hell and Ronnie is carry excess water , Dorian dominates when he's off and Ronnie just barely wins when he is .