Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[IceCold]

In that case there's no difference here either..

you posted a pic of yates realxing his midsection (acutally shaking nasser's hand at the 97 0 which was one of yates' worst showings) vs. one that is one of his greatest poses.  what's the point.  2 different poses.  idiot.



also, the pics posted by FreakGeek were from the same exact article from the quote i posted of ronnie saying how dorian would beat him.


even after all these years, you've never heard ronnie say he'd still beat dorian, but he'll readily admit that he'll beat cutler, gunter, gustavo, jackson, etc.

[pumpster]

Not even worth a response; nuance isn't even in the vocabulary. It's like having to explain gravity.

[IceCold]

kinda like to having to continuing correct someone who posts pics that prove nothing and make no sense.

[Shockwave]

kinda like to having to continuing correct someone who posts pics that prove nothing and make no sense.

zing.

[pumpster]

kinda like to having to continuing correct someone who posts pics that prove nothing and make no sense.

Mangled english to go along with the throw-away bumper-sticker slogans ("competition is everything"). Really a perfect partner for ND and SUCKY.

[Hulkster]

but he lacked the most important thing: recognition and attention from the judges on the Olympia stage..

secondly, you will notice that he gained (not lost) alot of defintion from 96/7 as compared to 98/99:



looks way way better in the second pic..


 don't even go down the whole "ronnie was basically as good in 96/7 as he was in 98/99" road again.

the videos and pics have been posted time and time again to show that this is completely WRONG:



substantial difference.



I can't believe that the dorian nuthuggers are still arguing this.

for the last time: ronnie was way way better in 98/99 than he was in 96/97!!!!!



 

ND - can you not see the obvious differences here?

stop obsessing with numbers (they are not always correct) and open your eyes)



97 vs 99

you are the ONLY person in the history of bodbuilding not to acknowledge the leap Ronnie made from 96/97 to 98/99.
dubious distinction I would say..



97 vs 99

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND - can you not see the obvious differences here?

stop obsessing with numbers (they are not always correct) and open your eyes)


97 vs 99

you are the ONLY person in the history of bodbuilding not to acknowledge the leap Ronnie made from 96/97 to 98/99.
dubious distinction I would say..



97 vs 99

Hulkster use logic and common sense for a moment I've looked at all the pics and structally & size wise he is the same !! the only real dramatic improvements are in conditioning . his arms don't get bigger by losing size , his quads don't increase in size by losing 5lbs lol you don't get bigger by getting smaller . he may have had the appearence of being bigger ( key word ) but the changes he made from 1996/97 to 1998/99 are all due to conditioning .

[Hulkster]

97 vs 98

[ignorance]

CRAZY SIZE 

[NarcissisticDeity]

97 vs 98

Bad pic the lighting is way to harsh in 97. Hulkster other than conditioning its the same Coleman .

[Hulkster]

his arms don't get bigger by losing size , his quads don't increase in size by losing 5lbs lol you don't get bigger by getting smaller .

you have to learn not to take numbers for face value.

Ronnie at the 99 Olympia was much larger than Ronnie at the 97 grand prix shows.

Anyone can see that.



look at the quads size. huge difference.

same with the arms and chest.

Ronnie filled out immensely between 97 and 99.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you have to learn not to take numbers for face value.

Ronnie at the 99 Olympia was much larger than Ronnie at the 97 grand prix shows.

Anyone can see that.


look at the quads size. huge difference.

same with the arms and chest.

Ronnie filled out immensely between 97 and 99.

Ronnie was 255lbs at the 1997 Mr Olympia he admitted he was a tad to heavy and lost sharpness a victim of to many contests . Flex screws up and hooks him up with The Chad and he drys Ronnie right out he's down to 249lbs but looks fantastic ( minus the gyno ) next Olympia Ronnie is bigger than 98 but just a tad less sharp but you're right compared to 97 vs 99 he was just 2 pounds heavier but he was much fuller . 1996/1997 he was 250-255lbs compared to 1998 he DID NOT change size wide or structually other than his conditioning , obviously if anything from 97 - 98 he got just a tad smaller but way sharper .

[Hulkster]

Thats a great shot of Paul, Ronnie and Dorian..

[pumpster]

Ronnie was 255lbs at the 1997 Mr Olympia he admitted he was a tad to heavy and lost sharpness a victim of to many contests . Flex screws up and hooks him up with The Chad and he drys Ronnie right out he's down to 249lbs but looks fantastic ( minus the gyno ) next Olympia Ronnie is bigger than 98 but just a tad less sharp but you're right compared to 97 vs 99 he was just 2 pounds heavier but he was much fuller . 1996/1997 he was 250-255lbs compared to 1998 he DID NOT change size wide or structually other than his conditioning , obviously if anything from 97 - 98 he got just a tad smaller but way sharper .

At this point, you've got more minutiae and precious little effective/comparative pictorial proof from anyone of change between those two periods of time.

Gentlemen? We are approaching a possible crux of the matter..

[Hulkster]

I think its pretty damn clear from the pics that the 2 pound weight difference from 1997 to 1999 is incorrect.






Ronnie's legs alone look a lot bigger in 99 than in 97, never mind the rest of him.

ND, are you really to believe that this was only a 2 pound difference?

[pobrecito]

If you want to know the real difference between 97 and 99....it was drugs, nothing more nothing less. Once he learned Dorian was out of the 98O he started mega-dosing. I prefer the pre-99 look - no gut

[pumpster]

If you want to know the real difference between 97 and 99....it was drugs, nothing more nothing less. Once he learned Dorian was out of the 98O he started mega-dosing. I prefer the pre-99 look - no gut

100% pure, garbagey speculation. Do you know what his training was like, nutrition, anything else? Not a chance, nor do you know how it might have changed over the years.

Besides which you should be honest this time, and acknowledge that Yates was doing same.

[pobrecito]

I already owned you once, it will happen again...

If you watch Ronnie's first video from 1997 you will see he trains the same exact way in all his other videos (and BFTOs) and eats the same food. He likely increased his food consumption, but again, that's due to the increase in drugs. Why do you think he needed to add Chad into the mix Owned again son

[pumpster]

You're a wannabee but can never put it together. Videos aren't indicative of each year's  training you fool.

Besides which, if he wanted to get bigger he would lift more heavily, something not necessarily be seen in videos.

Still waiting for an explanation why Coleman's drug use was singled out when it's obvious that Yates was doing same.

[pobrecito]

You're a wannabee but can never put it together. Videos aren't indicative of yearly training you fool!

what the fuck do you think he was doing in 1997....toe curls?

you have no business in this thread as you simple lack the intelligence needed to mentally keep up.

Ronnie has been training the same way for over 20 years. You think he just magically changed it and won the mr. O? idiot

[pumpster]

Ok genius, all because you say so while never offering ANY proof of anything. hahahahhahahahaha

[sculpture]

I think its pretty damn clear from the pics that the 2 pound weight difference from 1997 to 1999 is incorrect.






Ronnie's legs alone look a lot bigger in 99 than in 97, never mind the rest of him.

ND, are you really to believe that this was only a 2 pound difference?

I don't think iv'e ever witnessed denial of this scale ever.

ND, face it, we've got you this time.

Accept that the change is far beyond his conditioning.

[pobrecito]

Ok genius, all because you say so while never offering ANY proof of anything. hahahahhahahahaha

the proof is on video - Ronnie's first video

Once again, please, if you know, how did Ronnie's training change in 1998?

[americanbulldog]

Rickson by armbar.  Ooops wrong forum, Ronnie by anything he wants. 

[pumpster]

ND, face it, we've got you this time.

Accept that the change is far beyond his conditioning.

ND's entire position relies on the fact that Coleman beaten by Yates is comparable to Coleman in later years...what's it gonna be?

Quote from: pumpster on August 03, 2006, 07:34:46 PM
Ok genius, all because you say so while never offering ANY proof of anything. hahahahhahahahaha


the proof is on video - Ronnie's first video

Once again, please, if you know, how did Ronnie's training change in 1998?

I don't have to prove it did change. You've provided no evidence that everything he did stayed the same save for some shaky assumption based on one video!