Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[suckmymuscle]

Ha ha ha ha

  Too bad Dorian owned your boy at that contest...both in muscularity and taper!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

And the bottom line is that, while the 1998 Coleman has better taper than Dorian this is not true for either the 1999 and especially the 2003 version of him.

Here is Ronnie in 03 with better taper. It's pretty pathetic Dorian has worse aesthetics than a 287 lb Ronnie.

And Dorian has superior abdominal and serratus separations than any version of Ronnie. All these abs-and-thigh shots own your boy's, and I'm including the ones from the 1994 and 1997 Olympias in it!

Congratulations dipshit!!! Nobody is arguing that Ronnie beats Dorian in the abs-and-thighs. So you're arguing a strawman. I personally think Ronnie wins this pose, but I will give it to Dorian b/c it's pointless arguing over 1 pose when Ronnie wins most of the mandatories.

[NeoSeminole]

Too bad Dorian owned your boy at that contest...both in muscularity and taper!

ha ha ha, Ronnie wasn't even at his prime and his back was almost as wide and thicker than Dorian's. Ronnie in 03 was 30 lbs heavier than his 96 version. He would make Dorian look like his bitch.

[nicorulez]

Guys, man, I thought we were beyond the name calling.  Come on Sucky, don't get so riled up.  You make a good case for your man, but you don't have to disparage people to do so.  Hulkster, you make good points, but you continue to incite Sucky.  To be honest, it would be a good contest in a virtual posedown; however, it is not going to happen.  Thus, why get so worked up over something that will never be.  Obviously, both are incredible bodybuilders.  However, for either to say it would be a cakewalk is a joke.  Enjoy them for what they brought to the table.  In the end, we got to see two incredible bodybuilders.  This may be Ronnie's last year; enjoy it.  Why start a pissing match comparing him to a bodybuilder from a decade ago.    This thread was amusing, but now it is quite sad.  Grown men are ripping each other to shreds for what; it is worse than politics.  You are both intelligent.  Stop the hating. 

[IceCold]

However, for either to say it would be a cakewalk is a joke.  

Thank you. 

[Hulkster]

You make a good case for your man

no he doesn't.

saying dorian had "a tiny waist"  and "no distenstion" while viewing pics like this:




is not making a good case.

It is being plain delusional and denying the pics right in front of you..

[Hulkster]

Read my post to Hulkster where I address why the 1993 or 1995 Dorian would defeat the 1999 Coleman

sucky, have you seen how bad dorian looks in 1995?

I don't think he comes anywhere near his 1993 shape, let alone better than a 1999 Ronnie..













A 1999 Ronnie is leaps and bounds better than a 1995 yates, this should be obvious to everyone.

Just look

[Hulkster]

just no contest btwn. a 1995 Yates and a 1999 Ronnie.

the ONLY version of dorian that would not get washed off the stage by ronnie is the 1993 version. period.

[NeoSeminole]

I've noticed the Dorian supporters keep arguing his conditioning was superior, but how do you define conditioning? What's the point of being "hard" and "dry" if you lack detail? Many people cite Dorian's striated lower back as a measure of his superior conditioning, yet they don't extend the same curteousy when it comes to Ronnie's striated chest, biceps, triceps, glutes, quads, and hamstrings. Why the double-standard? I believe the purpose of conditioning is to display the muscle quality through the skin. Bodybuilders lose fat and water in order to achieve this. If separations and striations are not a measure of conditioning, then what is?

[suckmymuscle]

no he doesn't.

saying dorian had "a tiny waist"  and "no distenstion" while viewing pics like this:
It is being plain delusional and denying the pics right in front of you..

  First of all, I never said Dorian had a tiny waist. If you've read what I wrote - obviously not the case -, you'd know I never claimed Dorian had better taper than Ronnie; my point was that Ronnie's taper, in 1999, was not that much better than Dorian's to compensate for the Yates' vast superiorities in the midsection area, such as the fact that his stomach is flatter during the relaxed round and that his abdominals, intercostals and serratus are far more separated than Ronnie's at the 1999 Olympia.

  As for the rest, my point remains: Dorian had no gut distension at the 1993 Olympia. There was no distension visible in any of the pics youé posted; conversely, I'e also posted pics from Dorian in 1993 that clearly shows that: he had fantastic tape, a flat stomach and much better midsection separations than Coleman in 1999. Again, only for you...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

sucky, have you seen how bad dorian looks in 1995?

I don't think he comes anywhere near his 1993 shape, let alone better than a 1999 Ronnie..













A 1999 Ronnie is leaps and bounds better than a 1995 yates, this should be obvious to everyone.

Just look

  Ok, first of all, the bottom pic in the series you've posted looks fantastic and it is from the 1996 Olympia, not the 1995 one. Secondly: are fucking kidding me?! Dorian won that contest with striaght-first scores from all udges, and defeated a career best Kevin flat out! He was even harder and dryer than he was at the 1993 Olympia, and his 1995 Olympia form is considered the most conditioned any bodybuilder hs ever displayed, in all times. This side triceps shot is fro he 1995 Oympia, and it is the best of any Mr.Olympia ever. So let's cut this crap about how Dorian wasn't that goo in 1995, because not even a torn biceps was able to stop him from winning wih straight-fist scores across the board from all udges. And please don't say that it was a political decision, because Dorian soundly won the muscularity round and also the symmetry round despite his torn biceps. Compare this to Ronnie in 2001, who lost both the symmetry rounds to Cutler and still won; now that was politics!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

Here is Ronnie in 03 with better taper. It's pretty pathetic Dorian has worse aesthetics than a 287 lb Ronnie.
Congratulations dipshit!!! Nobody is arguing that Ronnie beats Dorian in the abs-and-thighs. So you're arguing a strawman. I personally think Ronnie wins this pose, but I will give it to Dorian b/c it's pointless arguing over 1 pose when Ronnie wins most of the mandatories.

  Wait 'till Ronnie turn to the sides, dick head...and he immediately loses the symmetry round...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

just no contest btwn. a 1995 Yates and a 1999 Ronnie.

the ONLY version of dorian that would not get washed off the stage by ronnie is the 1993 version. period.

  Well, Hulkster, that is your opinion. The fact is that Dorian won, in 1995, far more dominantly than Ronnie did in 1999. I know that Coleman won by three points in 1998 and about the same next year. Dorian won both symmetry and muscularity rounds flt out, with straight-first scores from all the udes! Dorian defeated a career best Kevin and, as McGough put it in his review:

  "There was a great distance between Dorian and Levrone. Yates won the contest handily."

  So your preference does not change the fact that the I.F.B.B udges were far more impressed by Dorian in his 1995 performance than by Coleman in 1999. I think the 1995 Dorian would defeat Ronnie soundly. The 1998 Ronnie would be a bigger threat. Ronnie in 1999 had less separations on his back than in the previous year, he already had soe gut distension and his muscularity was still no match for Diesel's. So, why would he win? Dorian woul defeat him in muscularity, destroy him in density and conditioning and Ronnie's symmetrical advantages would be much lower than they were when talking about the 1998 Ronnie. Coleman's slight but considerable gut distension, by itself, would be enough to take away many points symmetry-wise when compared to Dorian, because the latter would have the tighter midsection with better definition. You and Ronnie lose.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hulkster is basing is assesment of Yates 1995 from a few magazine scans and if he's lucky a few breif moments of compressed video . thats a very bad judgement call ( which he's probe to ) very imcomplete.

remember 1995 is the contest in which Paul Dillett said " I've seen Jesus Christ and he looks like Dorian Yates. " other than the torn bicep , which by that time filled out more than in 94 and the torn quad , Dorian matched his overall package from 1993

Right after he tore his bicep in 94 , Shawn Ray said that Yates was washed up and still had a couple of years left in him as a guest-poser , needless to say Dorian CRUSHED Shawn and everyone else in this contest , without question.

[NeoSeminole]

Wait 'till Ronnie turn to the sides, dick head...and he immediately loses the symmetry round.

How so?

[Hulkster]

and his muscularity was still no match for Diesel's

hahahaha

[Hulkster]

So, why would he win? Dorian woul defeat him in muscularity, destroy him in density and conditioning

do you have any idea what dense and conditioned muscle looks like?

Hint:


this is a lot better conditioned muscle than


this.

You guys throw around these words as if they mean something.

then when you look at the pics, you see that all the talk about dorian's "conditioning" "density" and "dryness" all mean NOTHING in comparison to Ronnie because MOST of dorian's muscles look SMOOTH in comparison

when are you guys going to start showing me some PICS of Dorian's supposedly much better looking muscle? (other than the minor abs).

you need more than abs and calves to beat Ronnie.

[pobrecito]

Ronnie does look soft in that comparison against Yates though.

[Dorian 01]

One definition for insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

[NeoSeminole]

ha ha ha, pathetic! Ronnie looks like he was carved out of granite using a razorblade while Dorian looks like he was carved using a blunt object.

[Dorian 01]

Dorian only retired because he got tired of beating Ronnie.

[IceCold]

you need more than abs and calves to beat Ronnie.

and you need more than biceps and a slightly better taper to beat dorian. 

[IceCold]

do you have any idea what dense and conditioned muscle looks like?

i think you meant to post these pics as examples of dense and conditioned muscle.







2 words that coleman is NOT known for - dense and condition. 

[Hulkster]

and you need more than biceps and a slightly better taper to beat dorian. 

and you are an idiot if you think that is all that Ronnie has on him

[Hulkster]

2 words that coleman is NOT known for - dense and condition. 

just because the 2004/5/6 Coleman is not known for density and condition does NOT mean that the 1999 Ronnie wasn't.



you don't get much better conditioned, dense muscle than this.




You guys must think that "smooth = conditioned" which is wrong.