This is where your obvious bias is exposed. No kidding I keep posting shots of Ronnie when he's controlling his midsection. It's called showing a person in their best light. Since this argument is which bodybuilder would win at their prime, it's only fair to compare both using their best pics.
The difference is that I acknowledge Dorian's liabilities, while you go on and on about the greatness that was Ronnie in 2003, without ever acknowledging that he had a distended gut, which there is ample photographic evidence for.
Of course I show the best pics of Dorian, just like you show the best of Ronnie. Conversely, though, I admit Dorian's shortcomings, such as his sub-par bicceps. When shown a pic of Dorian doing the front double biceps, not only did I acknowledge that Dorian's biceps were sub-par, but also that the inner and medial triceps heads are visible here and that Dorian's arms are smaller overrall. Did you admit to Ronnie's distended gut? No. You just make excuses for it, saying that it was only distended during transition - as if that didn't matter -, or that he still had better overrall taper - not true, etc.
Numerous pics have been posted that show Dorian had a gut too. So I could just as easily claim all you do is post shots of Dorian where his gut is not visible or he's sucking it in.
Completely wrong, you lying f**cker! Tons of pics have been posted of Dorian, both from 1993 and 1995, and none shows any gut distension whatsoever. Of course, while a gut distension is visible from the front, it is best seen from the sides. Well, I have posted tons of pics of Dorian from the sides and he has no gut distension whatsoever. Wide hips? Yes. Thick obliques? Definitely. Worst taper than Ronnie in the relaxed round from the front? Yes. A distended midsection? Most definitely not!
Furthermore, your comment that Ronnie looks unmanly is laughable. Dorian looked like a cow with twig arms.
First of all, this is not true. Dorian's arms were 21" or so, only an inch smaller than Ronnie's, and he actually had better arms than Dorian from most angles and in different poses. Secondly, yes, Ronnie looked unmanly. One of the main traits responsible for sexual dimorphism, in Human Beings, is glutes development. Women accumulate more fat around their hips and glutes than men, and thus their glutes are naturally larger. Ask any bodybuilding udge or expert and he'll tell you that there are two bodyparts where muscular hypertrophy should be avoided: the abs and the glutes. Ronnie looked like a fat bitch from the back, with his gigantic glutes.
I've already established that 93 Dorian was not as wide as 03 Ronnie. He was certainly wide, but not as wide.
You haven't established shit. Most of the weight that Ronnie gained between 2002 and 2003 was glutes, quads and abdominal distension. I have already demolished that stupid comparison pic you post, demonstrating that Ronnie's huge hams and glutes make his back appear wider than it really is. If you got the tape measurer and measured around the upper lats, you'd see that they were roughly equivalent in width.
Dorian had better separation in the rear double biceps. However, he seemed to lose some detail in the rear lat spread. His traps blended in with his lats, and his lower back was obscured by folds of skin.
Ridiculous, as we all know that Dorian was vastly harder&drier than Ronnie 2003. Hell, he was vastly harder&drier than Ronnie 1999, so he makes Ronnie 2003 look like a fat turd in comparison. As for you comment of his traps blendin in with his lats:
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You also ignore Ronnie's overwhelming size advantage. Even though his back in 03 was not as separated as Dorian's, his extra width and thickness more than compensated for this.
First, I never failed to acknowledge Ronnie's advantage in overrall muscularity. If you had read any of my critiques of Ronnie 2003 - obviously not the case -, you'd know that. I even acknowledged that, at the Olympia stage and being udged by I.F.B.B udges, Ronnie would probably defeat Dorian. The reason for this is that they do
not follow the manual. That's the reason why I'm certain that, at an unbiased contest with judges that follow the manual to the letter, Dorian would soundly defeat the 2003 Ronnie. Coleman simply had too many symmetrical flaws, and Dorian still would be a match for him in muscularity from many angles and with better conditioning, for Dorian not to come out victorious. Pay close attention. All theses pics are show Dorian from the sides, and he has no gut distension;)
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