Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Iceman1981]

Another empty statement kills him how? with fuller albiet softer muscles this ' kills ' him? Dorian is hard & dry , Ronnie is soft & soggy he isn't killing anything , you like Ronnie's look better is this means he's killing him? not quite any advantage in taper is stopped dead in tracks with less than Yates-like conditioning

What are you talking about? It's clear to see that Coleman's abs in the front relaxed are even showing more detail, seperation and hardness than yates. Can't you see that. Soft and soggy muscles my a$$. I really think you need to get your eyes checked.

[Iceman1981]

You're not with the program NO kidding everyone carries water Dorian carries less water than Ronnie , when I say he's doesn't carry any water it means hes carry the absolute bare minimum of water in his muscles , clearly evident in the hardness and overall dryness of his physique

You said hardness and dryness?

[NeoSeminole]

For every pic you can post showing Ronnie with no gut, there are ten showing him with a gut.

irrelevant, the issue here is whether Ronnie could control his gut. Pubes claimed that Ronnie never had a flat stomach. I posted shots disproving what he said. Furthermore, just b/c there are more pics of Ronnie with a gut doesn't mean that Dorian didn't have a distended midsection. It simply means that more pics were taken of Ronnie's stomach. Funny how more and more pics are surfacing of Dorian's gut once people figured out how to post screen caps.

Again, the real issue here is this: who's stomach was flatter? Dorian's. Combined with his superior abs/serratus separations, it makes his entire midsection better.

I agree that Dorian had a better midsection. Nobody has ever disputed that. However, you are wrong about Dorian's stomach being flatter. Please show me 1 pic where Dorian's midsection looks flatter than this. Hint: it cannot be done. You can only show me a pic where Dorian ties this, but does not surpass it.

What made me laugh the most was your claim that Dorian carried less lean muscle mass than the 2001 ASC Ronnie because his bones are thicker and his waist wider.Again, Black Men have heavier bones, and even if they didn't, 16 lbs of bone mass is a lot of extra bones!

I never said Dorian carried 16 lbs extra solely in bone mass. Nice strawman there, you dipshit. I claimed that Dorian carried most of the extra weight in his midsection. Both Ronnie and Dorian have guts, but Dorian also had a wider waist which greatly increases the total volume of his midsection.

Then you go on saying that Ronnie had more striations; I dared you to show me where "striations" are mentioned on any bodybuilding federation's judging booklet.

read the official IFBB judging criteria.

And the "lumpiness" correlating with thickness... yeah, that's probably why Flex had a lumpier back than Dorian: because his back was thicker!

I never said that Dorian didn't have a thick back. If you actually bothered to read my posts rather than try to respond in a hurry to make me look bad, you would notice that I said Dorian's back looks flat in the rear double biceps. It looks thick in other poses and when standing relaxed, but for some reason it flattens out when he hits that one pose.

[NeoSeminole]

regardless of ronnie's gut, his midsection is horrible and would be a huge negative if he faced dorian or anyone else.

you mean the same way Dorian's arms and wide waist would be a huge negative if he faced prime Ronnie?

[pobrecito]

Iceman, why are you ignoring my post regarding whether or not you are a racist. Yes or no?

[NeoSeminole]

For every pic you can post showing Ronnie with no gut, there are ten showing him with a gut.

irrelevant, the issue here is whether Ronnie could control his gut. Pubes claimed that Ronnie never had a flat stomach. I posted shots disproving what he said. Furthermore, just b/c there are more pics of Ronnie with a gut doesn't mean that Dorian didn't have a distended midsection. It simply means that more pics were taken of Ronnie's stomach. Funny how more and more pics are surfacing of Dorian's gut once people figured out how to post screen caps.

Again, the real issue here is this: who's stomach was flatter? Dorian's. Combined with his superior abs/serratus separations, it makes his entire midsection better.

I agree that Dorian had a better midsection. Nobody has ever disputed that. However, you are wrong about Dorian's stomach being flatter. Please show me 1 pic where Dorian's midsection looks flatter than this. Hint: it cannot be done. You can only show me a pic where Dorian ties this, but does not surpass it.

What made me laugh the most was your claim that Dorian carried less lean muscle mass than the 2001 ASC Ronnie because his bones are thicker and his waist wider.Again, Black Men have heavier bones, and even if they didn't, 16 lbs of bone mass is a lot of extra bones!

I never said Dorian carried 16 lbs extra solely in bone mass. Nice strawman there, you dipshit. I claimed that Dorian carried most of the extra weight in his midsection. Both Ronnie and Dorian have guts, but Dorian also had a wider waist which greatly increases the total volume of his midsection.

Then you go on saying that Ronnie had more striations; I dared you to show me where "striations" are mentioned on any bodybuilding federation's judging booklet.

read the official IFBB judging criteria.

And the "lumpiness" correlating with thickness... yeah, that's probably why Flex had a lumpier back than Dorian: because his back was thicker!

I never said that Dorian didn't have a thick back. If you actually bothered to read my posts rather than try to respond in a hurry to make me look bad, you would notice that I said Dorian's back looks flat in the rear double biceps. It looks thick in other poses and when standing relaxed, but for some reason it flattens out when he hits that one pose.

[Iceman1981]

I'm pretty sure Iceman is racist...as is Ronnie Coleman, which disturbs me, but oh well.

You're calling me a racist? You mind showing me and everyone where I made racist comments? You can't, so stop posting bull shyt about me. I think you're saying that I'm racist because I always make a comment on your posts and then you can't reply because you got owned multiple of times. Before you open that trap you have for a mouth and call someone racist, think before you speak.

[Iceman1981]

Ronnie's stomach was never flat, not even when he tried to tense it. Ronnie's whole midsection sucked

I answered your question. Now eat your own words on this stupid comment you just made.

[pobrecito]

You're calling me a racist? You mind showing me and everyone where I made racist comments? You can't, so stop posting bull shyt about me. I think you're saying that I'm racist because I always make a comment on your posts and then you can't reply because you got owned multiple of times. Before you open that trap you have for a mouth and call someone racist, think before you speak.

You have yet to own me, in fact, it is more the other way around, I have owned you multiple times

Now, the one thing that truly baffles me after 800 pages, is not that people think Coleman would win, as that is very plausible, but rather that you, Hulkster, or pumpster did not give Yates, a 6 time Olympia, not even one fucking good word. I am truly unable to explain this, other than the fact that you all simply hate white bodybuilders. Hulkster seems to love Shawn Ray not becuase Shawn was that great but rather becuase he hates Yates so much. The only person who has even given Yates respect is Neospunk, however he is white. How can you not think these pictures represent an amazing bodybuilder?

[NeoSeminole]

The only person who has even given Yates respect is Sir NeoSeminole, however he is white.

what makes you think I'm white? Just curious.

[natural al]

You have yet to own me, in fact, it is more the other way around, I have owned you multiple times

Now, the one thing that truly baffles me after 800 pages, is not that people think Coleman would win, as that is very plausible, but rather that you, Hulkster, or pumpster did not give Yates, a 6 time Olympia, not even one fucking good word. I am truly unable to explain this, other than the fact that you all simply hate white bodybuilders. Hulkster seems to love Shawn Ray not becuase Shawn was that great but rather becuase he hates Yates so much. The only person who has even given Yates respect is Neospunk, however he is white. How can you not think these pictures represent an amazing bodybuilder?

you should ban yourself for playing the race card when it's totally unwarranted.  That just shows you're losing the arguement....are you that frustrated with this thread that you have to stoop to that level?

[pobrecito]

I'm hardly playing the race card, I am trying to figure out why there is so much hate towards Yates for a man that looked as amazing as he did. There is simply no way to explain it.

[pobrecito]

WTF is this from Ronnie?

Just a bunch of rumors dude, first the judges have to have some reason to give jay first so they use this...It was all over the internet before the show so they just decided to run with it...Once they did, all the magazines just figured, what the hell, that sounds good to us...Mostly they all kinda wanted jay to win deep down in their hearts...Its just human nature with most people anyway just to cheer for the underdog and being white sure helped jay a lot too.....

[IceCold]

you mean the same way Dorian's arms and wide waist would be a huge negative if he faced prime Ronnie?

i wont deny that - never have.


but it never stopped dorian before - when he competed agains guys that were bigger with better arms, guys that were smaller with bigger arms and smaller waists, etc, etc, etc...

[IceCold]

what contest is this from?


it doenst look like any background that we've seen for an Olympia.

its probably a guest posing.

typical of hulkster to post the worst picture yates he can find and then compare to a doctured pic of ronnie from 99. 

[pobrecito]

what contest is this from?


it doenst look like any background that we've seen for an Olympia.

its probably a guest posing.

typical of hulkster to post the worst picture yates he can find and then compare to a doctured pic of ronnie from 99. 

That's from 95. 95 was a massacre !!

[IceCold]

That's from 95. 95 was a massacre !!

are you sure?

dorian' color looks different and he looks totally different than from anything we've seen from him in 95. 

[pobrecito]

are you sure?

dorian' color looks different and he looks totally different than from anything we've seen from him in 95. 

I stand corrected, that's definitely not 95.

[NeoSeminole]

I stand corrected, that's definitely not 95.

I'm pretty sure that's 95.

[pobrecito]

I'm pretty sure that's 95.

That background looks absolutely nothing like the 95 video on YouTube.

[NeoSeminole]

it was from a Mr. Olympia, and it looks nothing like any of the other years.

[pobrecito]

it was from a Mr. Olympia, and it looks nothing like any of the other years.

It's possible that they changed the backgrounds from the posing routine to the night show, finals. Either way, Yates dominated.

[NeoSeminole]

It's possible that they changed the backgrounds from the posing routine to the night show, finals. Either way, Yates dominated.

you still haven't answered what makes you think I'm white.

[RocketSwitch625]

Ronnie would make him look small.  ND, check out these pictures for proof.  Ronnie is unreal here:

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=1161

How can Dorian beat this? 

I like the way this guy has "expert" written below his avatar and he thinks that this flabby version Coleman would easily beat Yates. LOL

The C in his name must stand for C**t. LOL

[pobrecito]

you still haven't answered what makes you think I'm white.

It's not a "thought". You posted your pictures a while ago.