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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20025 on: January 10, 2007, 01:17:31 PM »
Ronnie's back was never that thick :o

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20026 on: January 10, 2007, 01:18:53 PM »
Front latspread as well as the rear are just poses Dorian owns ( among others )

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20027 on: January 10, 2007, 01:23:24 PM »
The problem with arguing with you is that you simply don't acknowledge reality. You think you gave a "truly brilliant explanation" but you didn't. Don't assume that b/c Dorian and Ronnie weighed the same, and Dorian had better conditioning and was 1 inch shorter, that automatically means he carried more lean mass. Let's say for argument's sake that Dorian had more overall bulk, this doesn't mean it was evenly distributed on his frame. His arms, chest, quads, and glutes were all smaller than Ronnie's. The only areas where Dorian looks noticably larger than Ronnie is the midsection and calves. For all intents and purposes, Ronnie would appear to have larger muscles overall.

I laugh whenever you say that Dorian had a thicker back. This has been thoroughly disproven with visual evidence. Ronnie's back was just as wide and didn't flatten out in the rear double biceps like Dorian's. By the way, I plagiarized your post on purpose you dumbass. I was tired of dealing with your babbling. So I decided to return the favor.

that was a parody of the way you sound in your posts. ;)

  See what I mean? Why should I rehash my same arguments again, so that this moron can continue to insist on his idiotic drivel? :-\ Logically and mathematically, the conjecture that the 1999 Coleman carried more mass than Dorian is an impossibility; therefore, I wo't demean my brilliant intellect by addressing it. If you had said that Coleman had as much mass as Dorian, then that would be different. It would still be highly likely that you're wrong, but at least it wouldn't be completely impossible.

  As for Ronnie's back beingn thicker than Doriannn's: ha ha ha ha ha. I wonder if this moro actually believe this shit? :-X And what's worse is that, like Hulkster, he used the "lumpiness" argument to support his cause. ::) Yeah, ok, that's probably the reason why Wheeler had a lumpier back than Dorian: because it was thicker. ::) And by the way, individual bodyparts are irrelevnant, since we're talking about overall mass. That's why I used the expression "ovnerall mass". I don't care if the mass comes from the arms, delts, quads, back, etc: it's all factored in already, you dumbshit. That Ronnie had this or that muscle bigger is irrelevant, since the weight and bodyfat level are pretty good indications of overral mass. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20028 on: January 10, 2007, 01:38:29 PM »
See what I mean? Why should I rehash my same arguments again, so that thnis moron can continue to insist on his idiotic drivel? Logically ans mathematically, the conjecture that the 1999 Coleman carried more mass than Dorian is an impossibility; therefore, I wo't demean my brilliant intellect by addressing it. If you had said that Coleman had as much mass as Dorian, then that would be different. It would still be highly likely that you're wrong, but at least it wouldn't be completely impossible.

see what I mean? Why should I have to rehash my same arguments again so that this dipshit can continue to insist on his idiotic drivel? Judging by his misrepresentation of my argument, Suckmyasshole clearly doesn't grasp the concept of muscular bulk vs total body mass. Ronnie had larger biceps, triceps, pecs, delts, glutes and quads, yet he supposedly had less lean muscle than Dorian? I won't demean my brilliant intellect by addressing such retarded ideas. ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20029 on: January 10, 2007, 01:42:19 PM »
I frequently steal your scans.  ;D

Same here, ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20030 on: January 10, 2007, 01:47:10 PM »
Again your implication that his delts , arms and chest are ' smooth ' implies they are but are they? no they're not as you can clearly see in these pics they're NOT ' smooth ' the last thing he is doing is carrying water

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


Again Dorian has Ronnie in balanced development , muscular density and conditioning , Ronnie has the edge in muscular bulk !

We are talking about the front latspread. Is yates doing a front latspread in any of the pics you just posted? Doesn't look like it to me. We are talking about this pic from that competition.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20031 on: January 10, 2007, 01:48:36 PM »
Quote
Learn how to read b/c lately you've been saying a lot of dumb things that could easily have been avoided.

lately?

more like for 815 pages :-*
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20032 on: January 10, 2007, 01:50:00 PM »
We are talking about the front latspread. Is yates doing a front latspread in any of the pics you just posted? Doesn't look like it to me. We are talking about this pic from that competition.

Dorian looks outstanding in that screencap, not sure what crack you are on.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20033 on: January 10, 2007, 01:50:45 PM »
  This is exactly what I'm taling about. How on Earth could Dorian Yates carry less mass than the 1999 Coleman, when logically and mathematically such a conjecture is absurd, is beyond me. This is so retarded that it's not even worth arguing with. Saying that a distended midsection adds less weight than a wide waist with a flat stomach, to a physique, is just too stupid to argue with. :-X

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why do you keep saying that dorian had a flat stomach? ???

when he wasn't crunching his abs, his gut was in the third row.

same as ronnie.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20034 on: January 10, 2007, 01:52:10 PM »
Front latspread as well as the rear are just poses Dorian owns ( among others )

Thank you for proving my point. In all of those pics, yates delts, arms and chest is smooth. The only good thing in this pose are his big lats, calfs and his quads look good, but not great.

Where are the striation and the hard look you yates fans label him with in those body parts (delts, arms, chest) I mentioned above?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20035 on: January 10, 2007, 01:53:35 PM »
Thank you for proving my point. In all of those pics, yates delts, arms and chest is smooth. The only good thing in this pose are his big lats, calfs and his quads look good, but not great.

Where are the striation and the hard look you yates fans label him with in those body parts (delts, arms, chest) I mentioned above?

Enough with this smooth shit. Take away Coleman's veins and he will look exactly the same as Yates...."smooth" as you put it. ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20036 on: January 10, 2007, 01:53:59 PM »
Dorian looks outstanding in that screencap, not sure what crack you are on.

Re read my post, lol.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20037 on: January 10, 2007, 01:55:44 PM »
Enough with this smooth shit. Take away Coleman's veins and he will look exactly the same as Yates...."smooth" as you put it. ::)

But then again we cant. can we? lol. Coleman kills yates with striations in the front latspread.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20038 on: January 10, 2007, 01:58:14 PM »
  Hulkster, your explanation is bullshit. You're either a racist or a whigger. There is no possible alternative. If the issue is simply physique, then the sentence "blocky guy" would suffice. There was no need to include the "white" there. Funny that I never saw you praising White bodybuilders who posses the look of narrow hips and round muscles which you claim to love so much, like Arnold. Food for thought.

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food for thought?


Arnold has narrow hips?


LOL

Arnold had a wide blocky waist, little quad sweep, no triceps etc etc.

he hardly fits the same mold of a peak ronnie, flex or even shawn...


more sucky misinformation as usual. This waist is not narrow.  And arnolds muscles were certainly not as shapely as Ronnie or Flex...
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20039 on: January 10, 2007, 02:02:31 PM »
Only pictoral evidence can account for your claims. Just because dorian was heavier doesn't mean he looked mroe muscular than Ronnie. And its not just sheer muscularity we're talking about  here so much so the appearance of fuller, rounder, striated and vascular muscle...basically Ronnie is more aesthetic and displays better musculature.

so even if I were to take your word for it, that dorian was more muscular at that bodyweight, it still doesnt say much for why Ronnie still cruches him int heabck department in his 98-99 appearance. Its all about how it looks buddy ;)

excellent post.

I have stated my preference for fuller, rounder, more vascular and striated muscles, but because the guys that examplify it (ronnie, flex, shawn) are black, and the famous ones that do not (jay, dorian, gunter) are white, I am automatically labelled a racist.

how stupid... ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20040 on: January 10, 2007, 02:04:42 PM »
excellent post.

I have stated my preference for fuller, rounder, more vascular and striated muscles, but because the guys that examplify it (ronnie, flex, shawn) are black, and the famous ones that do not (jay, dorian, gunter) are white, I am automatically labelled a racist.

how stupid... ::)

Absolutely false....it's when you start making claims such as "white blocky guy" that people accuse you of being racist ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20041 on: January 10, 2007, 02:05:56 PM »

EXACTLY

hulkster has never mentioned any of these white bbers that are even better examples that ronnie of what he claims is the "right" physique

-milos
-bob paris
-barry demay
-matt mendenhall
-ahmed haidar
-arnold
-mark dugdale
-rory l
gary strydom


LOL there is not a good back or a set of lats among that entire list!:

 :-\

yeah, those are the "right" physiqes all right ::)

drop this racist bullshit. You can't win it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20042 on: January 10, 2007, 02:07:07 PM »
Absolutely false....it's when you start making claims such as "white blocky guy" that people accuse you of being racist ;)

why is that false?

jay, gunter and dorian are examples of blocky physiques.

I don't care if they are green, purple or blue.

they are STILL blocky.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20043 on: January 10, 2007, 02:10:17 PM »
LOL there is not a good back or a set of lats among that entire list!:

 :-\

yeah, those are the "right" physiqes all right ::)

drop this racist bullshit. You can't win it.



So you've hand picked a list of traits that only Ronnie can win, and proclaim victory on your own terms?
Monster delusions.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20044 on: January 10, 2007, 02:10:57 PM »
Ronnie looks so soft and puffy in hulk's avatar.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20045 on: January 10, 2007, 02:13:48 PM »
apparently, Lonnie Teper came up with the "blocky white guy" line.

I knew I read it somewhere. Must have been mentioned on the boards before.

http://www.gmv.com.au/default.asp?pageid=HOME&template=CONTENT&sid=361

note:

Jay's wife Kerry Cutler came up to congratulate him on his victory. Lonnie Teper announced Kerry to be the owner of the "Unsung Hero" award. Lonnie said a few words to Jay and apologized for some comments he made to Jay in Dallas in 1996 (Lonnie didn't say what he said, but I believe he was referring to the "blocky white guy" remark he made).

I got this line from a forum somewhere, I thought it was here, but maybe it was from mayhem back in the day when I used to go there.

oh well, I guess that means Lonnie is a racist..  :)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20046 on: January 10, 2007, 02:16:58 PM »
So you've hand picked a list of traits that only Ronnie can win, and proclaim victory on your own terms?
Monster delusions.

that "list of traits" is why Ronnie has won more contests than anyone, including 2 more Mr. Olympias than dorian 8)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20047 on: January 10, 2007, 02:18:57 PM »
that "list of traits" is why Ronnie has won more contests than anyone, including 2 more Mr. Olympias than dorian 8)

Ronnie's competition was a joke. I watched Ronnie's 2004 Russian Grand prix posing routine, and his condition was so bad, I thought I was watching an offseason guest posing.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20048 on: January 10, 2007, 02:22:25 PM »
that "list of traits" is why Ronnie has won more contests than anyone, including 2 more Mr. Olympias than dorian 8)

Too bad he never won against arguably the greatest lineup in history.
He always lost.
Wahahahahaha!!  :'(

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20049 on: January 10, 2007, 02:23:01 PM »
excellent post.

I have stated my preference for fuller, rounder, more vascular and striated muscles, but because the guys that examplify it (ronnie, flex, shawn) are black, and the famous ones that do not (jay, dorian, gunter) are white, I am automatically labelled a racist.

how stupid... ::)

NO this is where your dead pan wrong , its when you refer to guys as ' blocky whites guys ' it opens you up for inquiry about race , I don't think you're a racist but don't act like everyone is picking on you for nothing , you opened yourself up for questioning with your comment just like Ronnie did.