no I am not (except in perhaps 97)
fact is, dorian was just too big for his main competition (flex and shawn) and when they were "out of the top running" and he faced someone his size, that person had no back (nasser).
99 ronnie was neither of these. and he was essentially the best of all worlds:
he had more aesthetics than dorain
more detail
and unlike shawn and flex (and nasser for that matter) had a wide back.
you are confusing my arguments about these two things:
1.dorian being a deserving winner (which he probably was most of the time)
and
2.Ronnie being better than dorian (which given both of these guys at their peaks (no, not ronnie in 1995... 
) I think is quite clear.
I was referring specifically and ONLY to the second case.
not necessarily the first.
maybe you should enroll in the reading comprehension class too?
you like to claim that my opinion is "worthless"
why?
because I don't have a badge saying "judge" on my shoulder?
that is the same as you arguing that ONLY a mathematician is qualified to say that 2+2 = 4 because the rest of us are not mathematicians and therefore unqualified.
it is a stupid argument only meant to dance around the fact that peak Ronnie would beat a peak dorian for the reasons we have listed and shown countless times...
fact is, dorian was just too big for his main competition (flex and shawn) and when they were "out of the top running" and he faced someone his size, that person had no back (nasser).
You love to cling to this and its so pathetic , Dorian wasn't just to big for his competition they were to small for him
its a balance between size & conditioning , the heavier guys could compete size wise , they couldn't size wise & conditioning wise , the smaller supersharp guys with great conditioning couldn't compete size wise , either way Dorian has the best blend of the two hence why he dominated
And Dorian had no competition in all seriousness , there was Dorian and then the guys who competed for second place and you're pathetic logic is easily crushed that Dorian only beat smaller guys without a back
1992 Mr Olympia - Dorian's main ' competition ' was Kevin Lervone who was 235 pounds compared to Dorian's 242 pounds thats very comparable
1993 Mr Olympia - Dorian has NO competition at all , to quote Samir Bannout " Dorian was first , second and third " again he had the best blend of size & conditioning but he wasn't they heaviest guy onstage , Big Lou 318 pounds and Dillett 275 pounds
1994 Mr Olympia - Dorian 262 pounds , Shawn a very small 205 pounds , Levrone 250 pounds
1995 Mr Olympia - Dorian 260 pounds , Levrone 250 pounds , Nasser 275 pounds
1996 Mr Olymppia - Dorian 257 pounds , small Shawn , gigantic Nasser at 280 pounds , Levrone 250 pounds , Dillett 275 pounds ,
Ronnie Coleman 250 pounds , Fux 280 pounds , Charles Clairmonte 250 pounds , Mike Fancios 260 pounds ,
1997 Mr Olympia - Dorian 270 pounds , Nasser 270 pounds , small Shawn , Levrone 250 pounds , Dillett 275 pounds , Fux 280 pounds ,
Ronnie Coleman 255 pounds Mike Francios 260 pounds , Clairmonte 250 pounds
your assessment that Dorian only beat smaller guys is proven false , stop typing this its simply not trueNow the irony part , when I posted a picture of Dorian , Shawn and Nasser all doing a rear double biceps shot from the 1996 Mr Olympia you and the other delusional idiots claimed how Dorian has better blown away in this pose by NASSER !! his back was better when you wanted it to be now you need to support your dumb claim that he had no back when it suits your needs typical-hypocritical Hulkster
So your claim that Dorian never faced anyone who could stand toe-to-toe with him in terms of size and had a great back , this like all your other claims is GARBAGE and why? well he faced three people who could match him size-wise and had great backs
Ronnie Coleman - 1996/1997 250 pounds and 255 pounds respectively and he has a great back
Mike Francios - 1996/1997 260 pounds and had a great back
Jean Pierre Fux - 1996/1997 280 pounds and had a great back
So once again your claim is dismissed , and none of them had an back like Dorian so in the end its a mute point
99 ronnie was neither of these. and he was essentially the best of all worlds:
he had more aesthetics than dorain
more detail
and unlike shawn and flex (and nasser for that matter) had a wide back.
Aesthetics okay Ronnie has a more ' aesthetic ' physique , Dorian never had an aesthetic physique and beat guys with aesthetics that shame Ronnie's this is an empty advantage , and more detail
and both Fux , Ronnie and Francios all had wide , detailed backs and Dorian beat them all with ease
you are confusing my arguments about these two things:
1.dorian being a deserving winner (which he probably was most of the time)
and
2.Ronnie being better than dorian (which given both of these guys at their peaks (no, not ronnie in 1995... ) I think is quite clear.
I was referring specifically and ONLY to the second case.
not necessarily the first.
Now you're backpeddling with the statement Dorian was probably a deserving winner most of the time , you said Dorian was the most overrated bodybuilder ever , you said he shouldn't have won in 93/94/95/97 etc and now you're back peddling to act like you're not the biased ignorant fool you are
and its YOUR opinion Ronnie at his best is clearly better , and because a certain segment of the board agrees with you doesn't make it so
you like to claim that my opinion is "worthless"
why?
because I don't have a badge saying "judge" on my shoulder?
that is the same as you arguing that ONLY a mathematician is qualified to say that 2+2 = 4 because the rest of us are not mathematicians and therefore unqualified.
it is a stupid argument only meant to dance around the fact that peak Ronnie would beat a peak dorian for the reasons we have listed and shown countless times...
And your opinion is worthless and so is mine , the ONLY opinions that mean anything are of the 13 judges , now fans can be educated and their opinions can coinside with the judges but he has to objective , unbiased , savy of the criteria , and that my friend is NOT You , not with statements of " Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time " and competitions are judges on ' lumpiness ' you're clueless kid
And you never established a strong case for Ronnie beating Dorian , you just have not ! you posted pictures and claim its obvious , you keep using Ronnie as the criteria , hyperfocus on his strengths and Dorian's weaknesses and dimiss all of the criteria that favors Dorian , I've made an extremely strong case for Dorian on several fronts firsthand accounts , quotes ,facts & figures , history , mathmatical probability etc and you post pictures of most musculars and claim Ronnie would BLOW DORIAN OUT OF THE WATER just empty rhetoric if anything it would be close but you can't even admit that or it could go either way , the best part of all of this is the ammount of times you've been owned on this thread its staggering lol and not just by me everyone takes a turn picking your nonsense apart correcting it and dismissing you for what you are a blond zealot who really doesn't know much.
