Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

LOL

peak ronnie would place 9th?

[Hulkster]

Talk about insanity ! 269 pounds and as hard and dense as anyones been at this weight

yeah, sure...

[Hulkster]

this is for pubic who claims dorian has great quads compared to Ronnie...

go ahead and match these

[NarcissisticDeity]

now you are just being stupid.

according to your argument, 1999 Ronnie would barely make the top 10 at the 97 Mr. O. (he placed 9th in his 97 shape)

 

even though this is the difference:

Please, explain your reasoning

How the hell did you make that leap? Ronnie 1999 due to much better conditioning would have most likely beat Yates specifically because of the improved conditioning

Ronnie 1997 was ninth place he was 255 pounds and his conditioning was off
Ronnie 1996 was sixth place he was 250 pounds and his conditioning was better than 1997
Ronnie 1998 was first place he was 249 pounds and his conditioning was spot on see a trend here?

Ronnie's conditioning was off in 2006 he placed second get it? conditioning separates first from everyone else with all things being ' equal ' every advantage you claimed Ronnie would beat Dorian he had when they competed in 1996 & 1997 he was missing one part of the formula , he wasn't bone dry or rock hard he was in 1998 and thats why he won , and Flex didn't win in 1998 and why? his conditioning was OFF see a trend here?

So the point is Ronnie had every single advantage you claimed would beat Dorian with the exception of one and thats great conditioning , now he got that great condition in 1998 , 2001 but its all a moot point because Dorian wrote the book on great conditioning , now what happens when the contest is close in terms of great conditioning then the contest is decided with who is bigger ( see Shawn Ray all years ) who had better density , who is better balanced , who is a better poser , etc Dorian has more advantages all years

Dorian 93/95 - size VS Ronnie 98/99 - Yates carried more muscular bulk
Dorian 93/95 - conditioning Ronnie 98 - maybe equal
Dorian 93/95 - conditioning Ronnie 99 - Yates
Dorian 93/95 - density VS Ronnie - Yates all years
Dorian 93/95 - balance VS Ronnie - Yates all years

Dorian has to many advantages over Ronnie , the criteria favors him over Ronnie its that simple.

[RocketSwitch625]

Oh yesss, look at that nice big black butt. He takes after his mom for that.

PWN3D. LOL

[Necrosis]

no its only ' sucks ' in comparison to Ronnie lol they love to break down parts and thing that accomplishes anything , a collection of parts don't make the best whole , this is where superior balance & proportions come into play , Dorian despite NOT having a hips & waist like Ronnie simply looks better in the front latspread , Dorian despite not having Ronnie's quads outclasses Ronnie in the abdominal & thigh , Dorian despite not having Ronnie's highpeaked biceps is more complete in the back double biceps shot .

This pic sums up who has better balance

is that a pre contest shot of dorian compared to contest ronnie, if so why are you using it?

[IceCold]

I'm still waiting for one of you morons to answer this post. Let's all see who has the dumbest answer.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.msg1879084#msg1879084

you posted a link to a page.

i'be be glad to respond to whatever, but an entire page showed up - not just 1 post?

[IceCold]

they show what everyone already knows:


ronnie had to pay his dues to be noticed by the judges on the olympia stage.

hell, even in 98 the judges didn't even bother to call him out in the first call out, and he ended up winning the damn thing.

 

pathetic excuse.

paying his dues?

than explain why yates, wheeler, ray, levrone, dillet, cormier, didnt have to pay their dues. 

in pre 97, ronnie won 2 pro shows, was a top 5 finisher in every show he entered.

he was featured in every magazine as well as national ad and commercials for metrx. 

nice try. 

[IceCold]

LOL

did you just respond to your own post?






maybe you meant to type this one:


"hi, i'm ronnie coleman. i'm one of the very few who have ever lost an olympia title while still competiting.  instead of looking in the mirror and remembering to take my plasma expanders, i blamed in on whitey prooving my class is about as good as my vocabulary and morals. 

also,   i did not tear my lat and tricep this year.  i never did beat dorian despite my great arms, taper, details, and whatever else hulkster claims.  also, i was a cop arresting people for misdameanors but yet i was using huge quantities of illegal steroids, gh and insulin without prescriptions". 

[Iceman1981]

you posted a link to a page.

i'be be glad to respond to whatever, but an entire page showed up - not just 1 post?

What ever post shows up first from the link is the post to answer. It's the post with 4 yates rear latspread pics with his loose skin hanging.

[IceCold]

What ever post shows up first from the link is the post to answer. It's the post with 4 yates rear latspread pics with his loose skin hanging.

i thought i responded to this before, but i'll do so again.

i think that 'loose skin' has more to do with dorian not flexing his low back in that pose.  he's more concerned with expanding his lats, nont contracting his xmas tree.

i know that sounds like a cop out, but here is 'visual evidence' (that's for you hulkster) to proove my point. 









based on those pics, my reason stands corrected (again).

dorian has the best xmas tree of all time. 

its not loose skin if you aint flexing it. 

it's loose if you flex and nothing happens - like cutler.  he also has the loose skin in the low back, but when he actually tries to flex it, not much happens.  unlike dorian. 

[NeoSeminole]

i thought i responded to this before, but i'll do so again.

i think that 'loose skin' has more to do with dorian not flexing his low back in that pose.  he's more concerned with expanding his lats, nont contracting his xmas tree.

i know that sounds like a cop out, but here is 'visual evidence' (that's for you hulkster) to proove my point.

None of the shots you posted are rear lat spreads. So they don't prove shit. Your lame tactic reminds me of when everyone said that Dorian's back looks flat in the rear double biceps. ND kept posting shots of Dorian's back relaxed or a rear lat spread as if to somehow "prove" that his back wasn't flat in the rear double biceps.

[IceCold]

None of the shots you posted are rear lat spreads. So they don't prove shit. Your lame tactic reminds me of when everyone said that Dorian's back looks flat in the rear double biceps. ND kept posting shots of Dorian's back relaxed or a rear lat spread as if to somehow "prove" that his back wasn't flat in the rear double biceps.

did you read when i stated that he doesnt flex his low back in the rear lat spread and hence the 'loose skin'?

thats why there is loose skin in that pose and not the others when he is actually flexing his lower back?

jay cutler proves this to be true as well.

he never really has an xmas tree, even when flexing his lower back.

get it now?

[RocketSwitch625]

Big black booty bouncer. COMING SOON to a gansta rap video on MTV.

[NeoSeminole]

did you read when i stated that he doesnt flex his low back in the rear lat spread and hence the 'loose skin'? thats why there is loose skin in that pose and not the others when he is actually flexing his lower back?

bullshit

[IceCold]

bullshit

again, not flexing.

maybe you meant to post these pictures










try again.

[NarcissisticDeity]

None of the shots you posted are rear lat spreads. So they don't prove shit. Your lame tactic reminds me of when everyone said that Dorian's back looks flat in the rear double biceps. ND kept posting shots of Dorian's back relaxed or a rear lat spread as if to somehow "prove" that his back wasn't flat in the rear double biceps.

No I posted pics of Yates' in other poses to prove his back isn't ' flat ' which I did , you people are so desperate for an angle you guys are making things up , his back is flat so he'd lose the back double biceps shot    , he has wrinkles so its loose skin , you guys are very desperate and ignorant to boot ! bad combo

[Matt C]

No I posted pics of Yates' in other poses to prove his back isn't ' flat ' which I did , you people are so desperate for an angle you guys are making things up , his back is flat so he'd lose the back double biceps shot    , he has wrinkles so its loose skin , you guys are very desperate and ignorant to boot ! bad combo

Dorian looked under the weather at the Arnold. 

No offense.

[NeoSeminole]

No I posted pics of Yates' in other poses to prove his back isn't ' flat ' which I did , you people are so desperate for an angle you guys are making things up , his back is flat so he'd lose the back double biceps shot, he has wrinkles so its loose skin , you guys are very desperate and ignorant to boot ! bad combo

what a bad liar! Nobody said that Dorian's back was flat from every angle. I guess you wouldn't know that b/c of your poor reading comprehension.

[NarcissisticDeity]

what a bad liar! Nobody said that Dorian's back was flat from every angle. I guess you wouldn't know that b/c of your poor reading comprehension.

Where did I say you people say said his back looks flat from every angle? I said you guys say he would lose the back double biceps because he appears flat

[IceCold]

No I posted pics of Yates' in other poses to prove his back isn't ' flat ' which I did , you people are so desperate for an angle you guys are making things up , his back is flat so he'd lose the back double biceps shot    , he has wrinkles so its loose skin , you guys are very desperate and ignorant to boot ! bad combo

i guess when ronnie coleman himself talks about the best back of all time he looks for such traits as loose skin on the low back and a 'flat' looking apperance.

 

[pobrecito]

Best back ever - even Ronnie agrees

[Necrosis]

Where did I say you people say said his back looks flat from every angle? I said you guys say he would lose the back double biceps because he appears flat

what the fuck are you trying to said say other people say said?

[NarcissisticDeity]

i guess when ronnie coleman himself talks about the best back of all time he looks for such traits as loose skin on the low back and a 'flat' looking apperance.

 

I said already if Dorian had loose skin on his back one they would have made reference to it in contest reports I've read every single Mr Olympia contest report on Yates and not one single mention of ANY loose skin , fat , water , etc and again I've explained that if he was holding water in his lower back it would obscure the razor sharp striations in his x-mass tree and these pictures prove other wise , these guy realize they can't counter that Dorian has the edge in size ( depending on the year ) density , balance & proportion and conditioning ( depending on the year ) so they need to create imaginary weaknesses in Dorian , it shows what these people are working with and you're right every post that say Dorian has the best back is dismissed by them in favor for just one lol meanwhile Samir , Rhul , Team Flex and Ronnie himself all say other wise but hey they're backed into a corner what do you expect? the funny part is these pic are nothing new , they've been posted so many times and NOT once did anyone mention any loose skin one idiot sees wrinkles and thinks its loose skin , and fat and water and the rest of the ignorant heard follows along and jump on the bandwagon , they need angles , they need advantages , so they create them.

[NarcissisticDeity]

what the fuck are you trying to said say other people say said?

I never claimed everyone said his back looks flat from all angles , thats not true I said you guys claimed his back looks flat in the back double biceps shot and for that reason he would lose the pose and its not true.