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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27825 on: May 08, 2007, 08:07:18 PM »
Seminole, I won't reply to any more posts from you until you reply to this question:

"Do you still maintain, that each and every single person in the World, at the exact same amount of subcutaneous fat and water, will have the exact same amount of muscular separations?"

you actually addressed me by my proper sn. I will return the same courtesy as you have shown me. I thought I already responded to this question before. My answer is yes - they will demonstrate the same level of overall definition at the same lean body mass (excluding any differences in height).

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27826 on: May 08, 2007, 08:20:41 PM »
Nobody has ever had better arms from the rear than Flex...not even Ronnie....the roundness of Flex's muscles is truly unreal


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27827 on: May 08, 2007, 08:23:37 PM »
you hear that folks? Suckmyasshole thinks Dorian looks harder in these pics. In reality, he looks a few weeks out from a contest.





very true.

dorian was lucky Ronnie had conditioning issues as well as an undersized lower body when Dorian faced him.

once Ronnie corrected these problems, with added size and  conditioning, he was, as everyone likes to say, "unbeatable when in shape"

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27828 on: May 08, 2007, 08:43:44 PM »
even in 93 dorian is damn lucky that a 257 pound in shape Ronnie never stepped on stage with him.

it would have been game over for dorian, easily. :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27829 on: May 08, 2007, 08:44:23 PM »
very true.

dorian was lucky Ronnie had conditioning issues as well as an undersized lower body when Dorian faced him.

once Ronnie corrected these problems, with added size and  conditioning, he was, as everyone likes to say, "unbeatable when in shape"




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27830 on: May 08, 2007, 08:45:30 PM »
ugly, grotesque physique  :-X


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27831 on: May 08, 2007, 08:47:41 PM »
ugly, grotesque physique  :-X



sorry, I forgot that this was your idea of a non -ugly, non grotesque physique... ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27832 on: May 08, 2007, 08:49:44 PM »
Nice flapjack nipples LOL


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27833 on: May 08, 2007, 08:52:13 PM »
yes but Ronnie's nipples are better developed than Dorian's entire arm complex :-X
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27834 on: May 08, 2007, 08:53:15 PM »
yes but Ronnie's nipples are better developed than Dorian's entire arm complex :-X

You would know after milking his tits, wouldn't you  :-\


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27835 on: May 09, 2007, 03:52:38 AM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27836 on: May 09, 2007, 05:36:32 AM »
People are posting these rear lat spread shots as proof of Coleman's superiority. I see a layer of water under the skin and less muscle density. In some side by side comparisons Yates' trapezius looks LITERALLY twice as big and dense.

Yates is a samurai sword... or a damascus blade. Each gradient of muscle was developed... or forged I should say, with a slow and careful process; the secrets of which are lost to antiquity. We must now be resigned to only LOOK back, and with the fondest memories. This was a truly special era in bodybuilding. We dare not look too deeply for the grainy sharpness of the damascus may cut us; not by touch, but through pure brilliance.

Ronnie Coleman may aspire to recreate the damascus... to learn the secrets of the damascus... but in the end he is a cheap knock-off and it shows. His flaws are readily apparent to the discriminating eye. He took the beautiful monster created by Yates and turned it into something just hideous. A stomach distended beyond the chest? Glaring flaws in the abdominal region?

Yates created the mass monster, Coleman created the reverse taper...

A dubious distinction at best.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27837 on: May 09, 2007, 05:57:34 AM »
People are posting these rear lat spread shots as proof of Coleman's superiority. I see a layer of water under the skin and less muscle density. In some side by side comparisons Yates' trapezius looks LITERALLY twice as big and dense.

Yates is a samurai sword... or a damascus blade. Each gradient of muscle was developed... or forged I should say, with a slow and careful process; the secrets of which are lost to antiquity. We must now be resigned to only LOOK back, and with the fondest memories. This was a truly special era in bodybuilding. We dare not look to deeply for the grainy sharpness of the damascus may cut us; not by touch, but through pure brilliance.

Ronnie Coleman may aspire to recreate the damascus... to learn the secrets of the damascus... but in the end he is a cheap knock-off and it shows. His flaws are readily apparent to the discriminating eye. He took the beautiful monster created by Yates and turned it into something just hideous. A stomach distended beyond the chest? Glaring flaws in the abdominal region?

Yates created the mass monster, Coleman created the reverse taper...

A dubious distinction at best.

More self-indulgent ramblings.

Completely aside from density & dryness, the fact is that Coleman had real advantages in width, waist width and thus taper. Deal with it. ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27838 on: May 09, 2007, 07:13:53 AM »
More self-indulgent ramblings.

Completely aside from density & dryness, the fact is that Coleman had real advantages in width, waist width and thus taper. Deal with it. ;D


no, time for you to deal with reality:  ronnie got 6th in that contest, so much for your theory on his waist, taper, etc.

plus, two other black bbers placed ahead of him.

ronnie couldnt even beat a 200 lb. shawn ray.

pathetic.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27839 on: May 09, 2007, 07:16:44 AM »

no, time for you to deal with reality:  ronnie got 6th in that contest, so much for your theory on his waist, taper, etc.

plus, two other black bbers placed ahead of him.

ronnie couldnt even beat a 200 lb. shawn ray.

pathetic.



The guillible icecold stilled fooled into believing that contest placings are always accurate & honest bwhahaahahahah looks at the picture you idiot can i sell you a bridge?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27840 on: May 09, 2007, 07:19:29 AM »
yes but Ronnie's nipples are better developed than Dorian's entire arm complex :-X


any other good points you wanted to make:




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27841 on: May 09, 2007, 07:20:23 AM »
The guillible icecold stilled fooled into believing that contest placings are always accurate & honest bwhahaahahahah looks at the picture you idiot can i sell you a bridge?

so, roughly, the 18 times yates competed, the contest placings arent always accurate?

more looser denial.

you the same loser that cries when his team looses bc they didnt get calls from the ref/umpire, despite the score.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27842 on: May 09, 2007, 07:21:33 AM »
can i sell you a bridge?


can i sell you a bowflex?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27843 on: May 09, 2007, 07:23:21 AM »



ronnie's is much, much worse.

pumpster focusing only on the color of yates skin color.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27844 on: May 09, 2007, 07:24:33 AM »
even in 93 dorian is damn lucky that a 257 pound in shape Ronnie never stepped on stage with him.

it would have been game over for dorian, easily. :-\


flex wheeler didnt think so.

why didnt he make the same comment about ronnie that he made about yates in 93?

monster denial of reality and acceptance of facts, but would rather rely on personal opinions.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27845 on: May 09, 2007, 08:17:34 AM »
People are posting these rear lat spread shots as proof of Coleman's superiority. I see a layer of water under the skin and less muscle density. In some side by side comparisons Yates' trapezius looks LITERALLY twice as big and dense.

anyone can try to downplay a bodybuilder's strengths to make their favorite look better. It would be like me saying "when I look at Dorian, I see loose skin, a wide midsection, and bacne."



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Yates is a samurai sword... or a damascus blade. Each gradient of muscle was developed... or forged I should say, with a slow and careful process; the secrets of which are lost to antiquity. We must now be resigned to only LOOK back, and with the fondest memories. This was a truly special era in bodybuilding. We dare not look too deeply for the grainy sharpness of the damascus may cut us; not by touch, but through pure brilliance.

if Dorian is a samurai sword, then Ronnie is a gun - the next step in evolution. Ronnie matched Dorian in size with better definition and shape.





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Ronnie Coleman may aspire to recreate the damascus... to learn the secrets of the damascus... but in the end he is a cheap knock-off and it shows. His flaws are readily apparent to the discriminating eye. He took the beautiful monster created by Yates and turned it into something just hideous. A stomach distended beyond the chest? Glaring flaws in the abdominal region?

sure ::)










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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27846 on: May 09, 2007, 11:01:38 AM »
nukka please! That's just crazy talk.

  Why? Explain why Ronnie's supposedly superior pectoralis, deltoids and arms would work for him better against Dorian? Start with th3e symmetry round and then move on to the mandatories. I have already written extensively about this topic, so tehre's no need for me to go there again.

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who exactly are these guys you speak of? I want to see the quotes and sources. It's easy to say "well, lots of people agree with me" but harder to back it up.

  Peter McGough is one of them. He said in a FLEX editorial entitled "Dorian's Delicate Conditioning", from a 2005 issue, that:

  "No bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows."

  Julian Schmidt also said that Dorian's conditioning was the best of all times in an articel from FLEX. What he said was this:

  "Dorian Yates, the hardest, most annealed bodybuilder in history. He makes the other pros look like they are off-season."

  This quote was from July, 1998, so may disconsider it.

  John Montana, commenting about the 1997 Olympia in 2003, remarked that Dorian looked awful with his distended gut and torn triceps, but that he still brought his trade-marked conditioning to the table, which he refered to as the best of all times.

  As for the sources, I have the issues of FLEX where they are quoted, but I don't own a scanner. I promisse that I will search through my mags and tell you the exact issue so that you can search them through FLEX's archive.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27847 on: May 09, 2007, 11:09:08 AM »
you hear that folks? Suckmyasshole thinks Dorian looks harder in these pics. In reality, he looks a few weeks out from a contest.

  Yea, Dorian is harder while Ronnie is more defined. We don't know if one or the other had the lowest subcutaenous fat and water in that area, but I think that Dorian as alittle bodyfat and his stony look is evidence that he also has less subcutaneous water, too.

  But regardless, let's assume that you're correct. Let's assume that Ronnie has both a lower subcutaneous fat and water there. It's extremely unlikely, at least when it comes ot water, but let's assume. In any case, it still proves that I'm right. Why? Becasue Dorian had far less separations in his entire body than Ronnie.

  You can use the bodyfat distribution argument when it comes to spefcific bodyparts, but not when it comes o the entire body.And since Dorian was at 3% bodyfat and dehydrated, and yet was less separated overral than Ronnie, then subcutaneous bodyfat and water cannot explain the difference in definition between the two. Game over. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27848 on: May 09, 2007, 11:16:34 AM »
I didn't post my pic here expecting others to validate my physique. So you are wrong there. I posted it to let them decide if I looked that bad for themselves. Now whether they compliment me or not is entirely up to them. They could have not said anything and I would have been just fine.

  It shows that you're not confident about your physique and that my comment affected you, so you needed others to validate it for you. If you were  confident, you would have laughed it off.;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #27849 on: May 09, 2007, 11:23:23 AM »

  "No bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows."

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SUCKY's like a rabid dog when it comes to hardness & dryness because Coleman wins on every other criteria.

thank you