Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NeoSeminole]

2003 isn't his prime which you have continually been pushing . and once again its Peter's opinion its not fact and I do respect his opinion I disagree with it and why? 1995 Dorian is bigger , better balanced has equal or better condition and density with a better mastery of the mandatory poses , the opinion on who would be unbeatable is subjective and open for debate , the opinion Ronnie was off from 98-99 isn't subjective.

95 wasn't Dorian's prime like you continually keep pushing. His best showing was in 92 when he didn't have a biceps tear and his waist looked its smallest. Don't tell me what Ronnie's prime is and I won't tell you what Dorian's prime is. You, as a Dorian fan, have a right to pick which year to argue in favor of.

As for Peter's "opinion," the man knows a hell of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will. It's his job to attend shows, have front row seats, and write reviews. He has seen both compete in person and chose Ronnie over Dorian. You are just an anonymous person with no credibility.

[NeoSeminole]

ND thinks Dorian had comparable separations and striations as Ronnie.

[suckmymuscle]

ha ha ha ha, nothing? I have a f*cking pic of my computer monitor with a ruler next to it, you dipshit.

  So what, SemenHole? Didn't you comprehend that the size of Ronnie in the picture varies according to the monitor that you're using? I have already have a poster here asserting the he got 10.5 centimeters by measuring Ronni in his computer monitor, so you have no reason to cry fool. The only way to know for sure would have the actual picture and measure it, which is impossible.

Dorian is slightly taller in my comparison even though he is 1" shorter in person, and you have the audacity to claim that I scaled it in favor of Ronnie? Now you want to accuse me of using photoshop? Go home, little girl.

  Dorian is only 1/2 of an inch shorter than Ronnie, and that is, frankly, besides the point. You did an "ok" job of scaling for height, but you did a very póor job scaling fpr width and depth. And I did not accuse you of photoshoping; I said that certain parts of the comparison look photoshopped bbecause even though the width in the depth is not adjusted, the discrepancy in width for these bodyparts look too great to be explained by mere poor scaling.

I measured several anatomical landmarks to insure the accuracy of my comparison. If one person was standing much closer to the camera, it would reveal itself. For example, the bottom of the feet and knees would line up but the waist and top of the head would be off. However, we see that everything lines up perfectly which contradicts your argument.

  No, you manipulated thje depth of the pictures, but maintained the same scaling that the original picture had for width and maintained it even after the height was adjusted. You cannot possibly explain the fact that Ronnie is over 2" wider from the back in your retarded comparison because that would translate into a difference of width in real life of almost 1 meter, which is completely and utterly absurd. Ronnie would need to be 550 lbs and have clavicles as wide as the span of a car to be over one meter wider than Dorian from the back. Your comparison sucks and then there's the probable issue of photoshopping. When even after maintaining the original scaling for width, you have hams that show a discrepancy that would translate inot 50 centimeters or more compared to Dorian in real life, then photoshopping is a reasonable hypothesis.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

95 wasn't Dorian's prime like you continually keep pushing. His best showing was in 92 when he didn't have a biceps tear and his waist looked its smallest. Don't tell me what Ronnie's prime is and I won't tell you what Dorian's prime is. You, as a Dorian fan, have a right to pick which year to argue in favor of.

As for Peter's "opinion," the man knows a hell of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will. It's his job to attend shows, have front row seats, and write reviews. He has seen both compete in person and chose Ronnie over Dorian. You are just an anonymous person with no credibility.

95 wasn't Dorian's prime like you continually keep pushing. His best showing was in 92 when he didn't have a biceps tear and his waist looked its smallest. Don't tell me what Ronnie's prime is and I won't tell you what Dorian's prime is. You, as a Dorian fan, have a right to pick which year to argue in favor of.

you're about to get bitch slapped ( again )

Flex magazine Dec 1995

Dorian Yates : Skin like tissue paper. In the crucial front double-biceps shot , the left bicep is short , but NOT fatally so. Traps look as if they have the capacity to render him deaf. Back , upper and lower , is sensational in EVERY respect : width , thickness and detail. Side triceps is a masterpiece that he's made into a Broadway production number. Thighs have more sweep than before . Calves? Yates wrote the book on calves . In muscle thickness , he's in a class of his own . Today's combination of size , proportion , shape and condition make this his peak form.


This is Peter Mcgough's critique on Dorian 1995 , please pay close attention to the following sentence

Today's combination of size , proportion , shape and condition make this his peak form.

and to quote you the man knows a hell of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will. It's his job to attend shows, have front row seats, and write reviews.

dman you're looking really fucking stupid right now  now I'm going to add insult to injury , Dorian in the interview on Pro Bodybuilding Weekly in 2005 , when asked if he could beat Ronnie he said he would choose his 1993 form or 1995 both which he considered his greatest appearences with him stating he probably looked his best in 1995 , damn thats gotta hurt ?

Now you tell me that 1995 isn't his prime and then go on to tell me NOT to tell you which showing was Ronnie's prime  lmfao , you fucking hypocrite and it shows what YOU know ( or don't know ) about bodybuilding 1992 Dorian was very depleted and lighter 242 pounds , his goal was to come in super sharp and NOT take any chances what so ever because he figured his main competition was Shawn Ray and Kevin Levrone and Lee Labrada , so he came in light , this was not his prime showing in the least , he looked great but not his best , either 1993 or 1995 are his best contest showings

and to further beat you into the ground for questioning my superior intellect and prove 2003 wasn't his prime showing all one needs to do is post this

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.

and to quote ummmmmmmmm.............. ...you

the man knows a hell of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will. It's his job to attend shows, have front row seats, and write reviews.

so much for your theory of 2003 being his prime showing , and see the final nail in your coffin pic at the bottom from Peter McGough's critique of the 2003 Mr Olympia a man who let me quote you

the man knows a hell of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will. It's his job to attend shows, have front row seats, and write reviews.

As for Peter's "opinion," the man knows a hell of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will. It's his job to attend shows, have front row seats, and write reviews. He has seen both compete in person and chose Ronnie over Dorian. You are just an anonymous person with no credibility.

This is just going to get worse for you , I may have NO credibility compared to Peter McGough , however its shows I'm a fuck of a lot more knowledgeable than you Hulkster and pumpster combined when it comes to competitive bodybuilding because a lot of our opinions are the same , 2003 Ronnie not being his best , 1995 Dorian's best , Ronnie was off in 1999 compared to 1998 , etc 

However on this point I disagree I think Dorian 1995 would beat Ronnie 2001 , he's bigger , he's better balanced , has the edge in density and the conditioning is probably equal , couple that with Dorian's better posing and I think this would make Dorian the victor over Ronnie , it may however be close , and I may be wrong but this is where you get a dose of your own medicine kid and it's not going to be tasty

Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.

and to use your own logic against you The man knows a HELL of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will , he's been one of the world's top bodybuilders for 15 years , its his job to train for contests and know the inner and outer workings , he's faced both bodybuilders in question on stage , live and in person

Okay I'm done intellectually raping you , go home now take a shower and try to recover some of your dignity and at this point you're lucky I'm even responding to your nonsense 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND thinks Dorian had comparable separations and striations as Ronnie.

Slanted comparisons nice way to start a ' fair comparison '  Dorian's waist is just as narrow was Ronnie ( in the front double biceps shot )who is 10-13 pounds light and who is know for naturally narrow waist & hips lol

Neo you've never seen Dorian Yates in person , please refrain from making comments about the state of Dorian's conditioning via magazine scans and you can not comment on the state of Dorian's condition knowing this

Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates

" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.

see Light Years ahead

MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia


" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .

Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.


See the world FACT and 10 TIMES more impressive

  Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hradness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live.


See the granite hardness could be held on film or paper and YOU HAD TON SEE IT LIVE

Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007

The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...


See pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving

Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002

Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).

See NOT so great on final film and also see

the man knows a hell of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will. It's his job to attend shows, have front row seats, and write reviews.

Now see Neo getting smacked around like a Ho who's been holding out on her pimp on a Friday night ! 

Neo don't comment on Dorian's condition compared to ANYONE when your opinion is based off a high inaccurate means such as pictures and video , if you see Yates in person perhaps we could take what you say with more confidence but even then bias tends to cloud peoples judgement .

run along and play with your comparisons pictures kid , the adults will call you when you're needed . 

[suckmymuscle]

Great point ! I personally thought Yates should have lost just based on what limited pictures I had seen , but I can understand why he won despite the torn muscles he was massive and still bone dry and rock hard

  I told you this from the beggining. I was the only guy in the beggining of this thread who said that Dorian deserved to win flat out in 1997. Nicorulez gave me a lot of heat for that comment, but I sticked by it. Why? Because I have the FLEX coverage as well as the video of the 1997 Olympia, and while Dorian's gut was appaling - although not nearly as bad as Ronnie 2003 -, the sheer mass and hardness of his physique simply blew everyone away. I'm sorry, but a 270+ lbs Dorian is simply too much for anyone to handle. The only one who could go against that would be Ronnie in his 2003 version. I have the 1997 Olympia tape and a 285 lbs Jean-Pierre Fux was dwarfed by a 270+ lbs Dorian. You guys have no idea of just how monstrous Dorian looks at 270+ with his trademarked hardness. That was, together with Ronnie's 2003 showing, the moast muscular performance in bodybuilding history. Put Dorian 1997 next to Cutler, and Jay looks like a soft and small girl.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

As for Peter's "opinion," the man knows a hell of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will. It's his job to attend shows, have front row seats, and write reviews. He has seen both compete in person and chose Ronnie over Dorian. You are just an anonymous person with no credibility.

  And yet you give him no crdit when he says that Dorian had the best conditioning ever, and keep pushing the idea that Ronnie ASC 2001 was more conditioned. Here's McGough's quote from FLEX editorial, entitled "Dorian's Delicate Condition", after Dorian remarked that he's not pleased with the current level of conditionign among pros:

  "These words should not be taken lightly, because no bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows."

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  Hulkster and SemenHole, hardness may not be mentioned in the official I.F.B.B judging criteria, but then striations are not either, and the difference is that bodybuilders can lose bodybuilding contests for looking soft, but I've never heard of a bodybuilder losing a contest for lacking striations.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

Neo you've never seen Dorian Yates in person , please refrain from making comments about the state of Dorian's conditioning via magazine scans and you can not comment on the state of Dorian's condition knowing this

 

and I suppose its okay for you to make comments about ronnie's condition based on similar scans but its not okay for us to do the same with dorian.

you have never seen ronnie in person either, retard.

 

this thread is about comparisons.

its equal footing for both men.

there are screencaps, videos, pics and scans for both men.

we can certainly make comparisons using these types of media.

its an equal playing feild.

and dorian loses.

and its driving you crazy.

[NarcissisticDeity]

and I suppose its okay for you to make comments about ronnie's condition based on similar scans but its not okay for us to do the same with dorian.

you have never seen ronnie in person either, retard.

 

this thread is about comparisons.

its equal footing for both men.

there are screencaps, videos, pics and scans for both men.

we can certainly make comparisons using these types of media.

its an equal playing feild.

and dorian loses.

and its driving you crazy.

Umm lets see please find me a quote or quotes ( like I found ) that say Ronnie looks so much better in person OPPOSED to pictures & video , you CAN NOT say they're on equal footing while knowing that , it drives you crazy you can't find quotes on Ronnie that say the same thing  . and I only comment on Ronnie's conditioning from eyewitnesses sources , you know people who were actually there like Peter McGough  who according to Neo

the man knows a hell of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will. It's his job to attend shows, have front row seats, and write reviews.

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .

Seeing I was not there I will take it on authority that his conditioning was not as good in 00 as in 99 and not as good as 98 , I can look at the pictures myself and say " wow Ronnie looks a littler softer compared to 98 " and then I have this to ( take note ) verify my claim and if you've read the contest coverage of Ronnie's Coleman's contest wins you'll see the term bone dry & rock hard is been attributed to Ronnie perhaps in 2001 and 1998 and his conditioning in 1999 was good , very good it wasn't as sharp as 98

Dorian's conditioning is legendary his ability to get bone dry and rock hard accompanies all of his contest wins , hell even his second place finishes , see suckys post from McGough

"These words should not be taken lightly, because no bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows."

See Dorian Yates' quote from Pro Bodybuilding Weekly where he says he has better balance & conditioning compared to Ronnie

these quote are MY verification of Dorian's Amazing conditioning , I use these because I wasn't there so I'm taken them on the authority of someone who was and knows

MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia


" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED.

Flex Magazine June 1996

Quote Milos Sarcev on Dorian Yates

" Dorian is.........The current Mr Olympia. I admire him a great deal. He's impressive , ripped and huge with a total package that can't be beat. he doesn't have the type of physique I'd want to emulate. "

Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.


ronman Magazine Jan 1994

I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.



Quote Mike Mattarazo on Dorian Yates

" Does he even have skin? "

ulian Schmidt on Dorian Yates at the 1992 Mr Olympia

There is NO ONE in the world who can touch Yates. In this show he was a brain-snapping 242 pounds , all of it expertly distributed. Against all the finalist , sensational though they were , Dorian possessed thickness and convexity in his back none can match. Even Levrone's triceps and legs , which had the bodybuilding community aflutter all year , paled in comparison with the same bodyparts on Yates. Where others might also boast size and striations , Dorian dominates them with stratifications as well. It's eerie how far this man takes the human physique.


This is a quote from eight time Mr Olympia winner Lee Haney on Dorian Yates as he appeared at the 1993 Mr Olympia

" No doubt about it , Dorian was the winner . He's gotten bigger , with even more muscularity and detail. Fantastic! Out of sight. Y'know he was over and beyond a champion. He knows his body . It'll be hard for anyone to unseat him . "

]Peter McGough

For the 1993 Olympia he came in at 257 pounds and took straight firsts. We discussed it many times, and he sort of agreed that six weeks out was his best look, but knowing that the criteria was "condition, condition, condition"

Flex magazine Dec 1995

Dorian Yates : Skin like tissue paper.

Peter McGough on Dorian at the 1996 Mr Olympia

Dorian Yates : The man was in situ was rock hard

Dorian Yates on himself Interview with David Robson

[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?

      Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.


      One thing that I think people underrated me on - it was never really mentioned because of my sheer physical size and condition - was my balance and proportion. Not only from muscle group to muscle group, but from upper body to lower body. My skeletal structure and everything else was there and in good balance.

I mean Yates' is the yardstick in which conditioned mass is measured by , my case is proven , I think Ronnie may have matched Dorian in 1998 and 2001 ASC but not surpassed him by any stretch

Ronnie 1998 - bone dry and rock hard
Ronnie 1999 - NOT as bone dry and rock hard as 98
Ronnie 2000 - off from 99 never mind 98 holding water and soft
Ronnie 2001 ASC - bone dry and rock hard , probably his best conditioning of his career
Ronnie 2001 Olympia - oh boy 

I mean Ronnie was NOT really consistent with his conditioning , Dorian was Ronnie lost the 2002 SOS because his conditioning was OFF he lost the 2006 Mr Olympia because his conditioning was OFF he almost lost the 2001 Olympia and why his conditioning was OFF , so I can talk about BOTH condituon in relation to each other because I'm taking in on the authority of others , eyewitnesses and other sources

Nice post though Hulkster ( NOT ) 

[IceCold]

As for Peter's "opinion," the man knows a hell of a lot more about bodybuilding than you ever will. It's his job to attend shows, have front row seats, and write reviews. He has seen both compete in person and chose Ronnie over Dorian. You are just an anonymous person with no credibility.

tell that to hulkster who claims to know more than PM.

[Man of Steel]

Dear G&O Moderators,

I've never asked much of you fine folks, but if you could do me just one solid would you please........PLEASE.... .....nuke this steamin pile of dogshit thread?


Sincerely,

MOS

[IceCold]

the only advantage ronnie has is his arms.

yates' torso is much better, no retarded abs ruining every front shot.

dorian's legs also look much better.

[IceCold]

I'm willing to put Yates '97 head to head with Coleman 2006.

sure you would.

 .

dorian's waist was wide in that show, but he still was the best conditioned guy on stage, unlinke coleman.

also, coleman no longer had the best back or arms, while yates still had the best back.

dorian would win easily.

[Hulkster]

Umm lets see please find me a quote or quotes ( like I found ) that say Ronnie looks so much better in person OPPOSED to pictures & video , you CAN NOT say they're on equal footing while knowing that , it drives you crazy you can't find quotes on Ronnie that say the same thing  .

of course I can't. thats because Ronnie looks good and doesn't need to have people make excuses to justify why he looks bad on film and in pics..

you don't seem to understand (why I am not surprised? ):

the fact that we can't find quotes saying how much better ronnie looked in person like we can with dorian is A GOOD THING for Ronnie.

and a BAD THING for dorian that people feel the need to justify his appearence in pictures with comments like this because he looks so bad in them..

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

the only advantage ronnie has is his arms.

yates' torso is much better, no retarded abs ruining every front shot.

dorian's legs also look much better.

Another abortion of a comparison in which Yates has a waist width on par with a Ronnie who is anywhere from 10-13 pounds lighter  and the only advantage I see his better biceps , Dorian is crushing Ronnie in terms of balanced development and great proportions , just look at Ronnie's it's all round and distended and I think the difference in height would be negated by the fact Dorian has hair and Ronnie doesn't , anyway despite NOT having the best biceps its clearly evident he has the better overall shot .

[IceCold]

of course I can't. thats because Ronnie looks good and doesn't need to have people make excuses to justify why he looks bad on film and in pics..

you don't seem to understand (why I am not surprised? ):

the fact that we can't find quotes saying how much better ronnie looked in person like we can with dorian is A GOOD THING for Ronnie.

and a BAD THING for dorian that people feel the need to justify his appearence in pictures with comments like this because he looks so bad in them..

 

but when those same pictures of ronnie are used, you claim he either isnt in his prime, out of his prime, or whatever excuses.

everything you say is a contradiction.

[delta9mda]

is it me or does ronnie look thin in the torso area?

[IceCold]

Another abortion of a comparison in which Yates has a waist width on par with a Ronnie who is anywhere from 10-13 pounds lighter  and the only advantage I see his better biceps , Dorian is crushing Ronnie in terms of balanced development and great proportions , just look at Ronnie's it's all round and distended and I think the difference in height would be negated by the fact Dorian has hair and Ronnie doesn't , anyway despite NOT having the best biceps its clearly evident he has the better overall shot .

exactly.

just imagine if ronnie faced the competition that dorian did........

those abs ruin every front shot - not to mention the gyno.

[IceCold]

is it me or does ronnie look thin in the torso area?

its not that its thin, but dorian's is just thicker and better.

ronnie's structure is unusual, short torso, long chest, short and horrific abs.

[NarcissisticDeity]

of course I can't. thats because Ronnie looks good and doesn't need to have people make excuses to justify why he looks bad on film and in pics..

you don't seem to understand (why I am not surprised? ):

the fact that we can't find quotes saying how much better ronnie looked in person like we can with dorian is A GOOD THING for Ronnie.

and a BAD THING for dorian that people feel the need to justify his appearence in pictures with comments like this because he looks so bad in them..

 

wtf? excuses? lol yes people are going to elaborate lengths to cover up the GIGANTIC IFBB conspiracy that was Dorian's Yates' career lol throw out the facts that writers , judges and fellow competitors have all commented on this , they're in on the plot too lmmfao in fact Dorian was the second gunman on the grassy knole

I love when you're stumped and have nothing intelligent to say , because we're left with these tasty little tid-bits of insanity lol

Keep up the good work !!

[IceCold]

wtf? excuses? lol yes people are going to elaborate lengths to cover up the GIGANTIC IFBB conspiracy that was Dorian's Yates' career lol throw out the facts that writers , judges and fellow competitors have all commented on this , they're in on the plot too lmmfao in fact Dorian was the second gunman on the grassy knole

I love when you're stumped and have nothing intelligent to say , because we're left with these tasty little tid-bits of insanity lol

Keep up the good work !!

yep.

lets see, the quotes dont' matter, the polls dont matter (that dorian wins), and if anything is said positive about yates its bc of politics.

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

yep.

lets see, the quotes dont' matter, the polls dont matter (that dorian wins), and if anything is said positive about yates its bc of politics.

 

See I love pointing out his hypocrisy and his ignorance thats why I'm still posting , its fun to prove him wrong . and another of his M.O.'s is accusing everyone of exactly what he's guilty of not knowing how bodybuilding works , ' he really has no clue ' and he loves to preach to anyone who will listen , he find comfort in numbers if the more agree with him the more right he becomes lol and he's college educated can you believe that??

[IceCold]

See I love pointing out his hypocrisy and his ignorance thats why I'm still posting , its fun to prove him wrong . and another of his M.O.'s is accusing everyone of exactly what he's guilty of not knowing how bodybuilding works , ' he really has no clue ' and he loves to preach to anyone who will listen , he find comfort in numbers if the more agree with him the more right he becomes lol and he's college educated can you believe that??

literally, everything the guy says is a contradiction.

[Hulkster]

 everything I say is a contradiction?

lol

 

here is a hint Icecold: posting shots of Ronnie 1995 olympia or 2001 olympia or ronnie from 1996 etc is NOT posting shots of ronnie in his prime.

I don't post shots of dorian 96 and claim it to be his prime, now do I?

I know this is a shock to you because your intelligence is not exactly up there, but its the way it is.

please, enlighten me about all these other 'contradictions' that you fools claim I make..