Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

well talk to ronnie himself.

in the Muscle and Fitness mag that has the 1999 Olympia contest coverage in it, Ronnie is quoted in the article as saying " this is about the best shape I have ever been in" he also says something about gaining 5 pounds of muscle between the 98 show and the 99 one.

Huh well Ronnie did talk and he confirmed what I said , what Peter McGough said 1998 he was his best , his best conditioning as well to reiterate " my conditioning was spot on "

and I call BS on your quote too I think I have that magazine and he didn't gain 5 pounds because then he would have only been 254 pounds in 1999

You're wrong period once again and so is Neo you thought 1999 was his best and Neo thought 2003  I told you why those weren't his best is because his conditioning wasn't like it was in 1998/2001 ASC

[Hulkster]

See straw man , post a 242 pound Dorian to an off season Ronnie lol boy you sure know how to present an argument  I'm not arguing they were the same who cares if they were slightly bigger or noticeably bigger , its not about numbers its about balance & proportion , its about the total package.

I am not even going to argue with this sort of stupidity anymore.

here is Ronnie in 99 at 257 pounds not even flexing properly and his arms are noticably larger than Dorian 93  fully flexing.

now, you tell me that dorian had arms almost the same size..

 

[Camel Jockey]

Put it to rest already, assholes.

[Hulkster]

Huh well Ronnie did talk and he confirmed what I said , what Peter McGough said 1998 he was his best , his best conditioning as well to reiterate " my conditioning was spot on "

and I call BS on your quote too I think I have that magazine and he didn't gain 5 pounds because then he would have only been 254 pounds in 1999

You're wrong period once again and so is Neo you thought 1999 was his best and Neo thought 2003  I told you why those weren't his best is because his conditioning wasn't like it was in 1998/2001 ASC

even if you have that mag we all know you will not quote something that shows you to be incorrect.

I know I do not have it anymore.

hopefully someone does (not you) who can reliably quote it and perhaps scan it (or post a digital pic)

[NarcissisticDeity]

I am not even going to argue with this sort of stupidity anymore.

here is Ronnie in 99 at 257 pounds not even flexing properly and his arms are noticably larger than Dorian 93  fully flexing.

now, you tell me that dorian had arms almost the same size..

 

Hey moron do you see me claiming they were almost the same size? NO I never claimed that I could care less , his argument was posed as a straw man but thats besides the point

I don't care how much bigger Ronnie's arms are thats totally irrelevant

[NarcissisticDeity]

even if you have that mag we all know you will not quote something that shows you to be incorrect.

I know I do not have it anymore.

hopefully someone does (not you) who can reliably quote it and perhaps scan it (or post a digital pic)

LMFAO we're going just based on your memory? lets give that up right now ! you also quoted Shawn Ray as commenting on Dorian's lose of hardness from 92 to 93 and you got smacked down because of that lie , because I posted the whole quote

and again you can't argue that Ronnie was better conditioned he said it himself 1998 was his best because his conditioning was spot on follow that up with this

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


you're a defeated man , keep quiet

[Hulkster]

yes, I, unlike you, have an excellent memory.

the quote in the contest coverage of the 99 olympia in Muscle and Fitness.

its the coverage with the black and white studio shots of Ronnie, Flex, Kevin and Chris.

look it up if you don't believe me.

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, I, unlike you, have an excellent memory.

the quote in the contest coverage of the 99 olympia in Muscle and Fitness.

its the coverage with the black and white studio shots of Ronnie, Flex, Kevin and Chris.

look it up if you don't believe me.

 

I just proved your memory is shit , if your memory is excellent than you outright lied about the Shawn Ray quote , so which is it? 

[Hulkster]

I just proved your memory is shit , if your memory is excellent than you outright lied about the Shawn Ray quote , so which is it? 

you didn't catch me a lie you moron.

shawn specifically stated that dorian was 'bigger but not better'

in Flex.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you didn't catch me a lie you moron.

shawn specifically stated that dorian was 'bigger but not better'

in Flex.

Oh no I caught you in a lie period , you said and I quote " Shawn mentions Dorian's lack of hardness " he never said anything he said Dorian was BIGGER than him but that doesn't mean bigger is better IN GENERAL

NO WHERE does he say he lost hardness from 1992 to 1993 you're a liar and got busted plain & simple.

[suckmymuscle]

I've stated many times that I like white bodybuilders.

  The issue here is not whether you consider White bodybuilders good or not, but whether you consider them to be better than Black bodybuilders. So far, I have never seen you give the nod to a White bodybuilder over a Black one, so my point stands.

I even posted many times that I like yates 93 physique,

  And yet you still prefer Ronnie. My point stands: you always prefer the Black guy over the White guy.

but you are too damn stupid to read any of the posts.

  It is exactly because I've read your posts that I can see what a biased nut-hugging, intellectually inferior racist you are. You post the result of polls as if it meant something, even though none of the people surveyed are bodybuilding judges and have no idea how a bodybuilding contest is judged. Then, you post pics of Ronnie under idela lighting and compare it to pics of Dorian from 1994 or 1996 and that's supposed to prove something.

Actually that comparison shows how small and bad yates arms were

  Not at all. It shows that they were roughly the same size although Ronnie's were more separated, vascular and striated. Since I never argued that Ronnie's arms were not more vascular and striated than Dorian's, then your comparison was a failure to prove that I was wrong about my point.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

the race stuff is retarded.

a lot of people, my self included, pefer muscle shape of Ronnie, flex, Shawn even Chris Cormier.

they all happen to be black.

A lot of peole do not pefer bodybuilders like Dorian, Gunter and Jay who are are blocky, with not so great muscle shape.

they all happen to be white.


 Can you not see that it is shape and taper (not colour) that is the motivating factor here?

if you can't, you really need some classes on logic and critical thinking.

[Hulkster]

colour has nothing to do with it:

[NarcissisticDeity]

colour has nothing to do with it:

I agree color has nothing to do with it , but you people open yourselves up for inquiry with comments on Dorian's race , when you play that game don't be surprised when people question your motives.

[suckmymuscle]

the race stuff is retarded.

a lot of people, my self included, pefer muscle shape of Ronnie, flex, Shawn even Chris Cormier.

they all happen to be black.

A lot of peole do not pefer bodybuilders like Dorian, Gunter and Jay who are are blocky, with not so great muscle shape.

they all happen to be white.


 Can you not see that it is shape and taper (not colour) that is the motivating factor here?

if you can't, you really need some classes on logic and critical thinking.

  There are plenty of White bodybuilders with round muscle bellies and tiny waists, and yet "Iceman" never compliments them. And how am I supposed to see that the motivating factor is not race if the common denominator is that all guys you reject are White and all you embrace are Black? I agree that White bodybuilders have a tendency to have that look far more than Black bodybuilders, but it's strange that each and every single praise that you guys give go to the Black guy over the White guy. You must admit that it's a little strange. Then, there's the fact that you guys have already refered to Dorian as a "blocky White guy". Why put the "White" in there? Why not just say "blocky guy". It sounded pretty racist to me. Then there's SemenHole, who already stated that White people are "pasty and frail". Obviously a racist statment that shows spite.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

colour has nothing to do with it:

Ironically all three beat Ronnie lol

[The Next BIG Thing!]

Sucky, do you really think 'black' and 'white' have enough import to be capitalised?

That your way of saying that we're all equal, man!? Let's all join hands and sing We Are the World.

Fuckin' twit. Sorry - Twit.


TNBT

[pumpster]

LOL

[suckmymuscle]

a

Sucky, do you really think 'black' and 'white' have enough import to be capitalised?

That your way of saying that we're all equal, man!? Let's all join hands and sing We Are the World.

Fuckin' twit. Sorry - Twit.


TNBT

  Your constant unprovoked attacks on me speak volumes about your intellect and character. It's sad. As for the capitalization, I'm not a grammarian, but the last time I checked these words require capitalization because in the context of the sentence they are used as nouns and not as adjectives.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[The Next BIG Thing!]

Wrong, Sucky. I attack you because you come across like a pompous c unt.

The words 'white' and 'black' as nouns pertain only to people, and might be seen in some quarters as contemptuous. Like you might say 'whites are all racist' or 'blacks are all stupid'. These terms as nouns render people faceless, lump them together, rob them of individuality.

See?

Black and white are most often used as adjectives, i.e. in a descriptive capacity.

A black jacket, a white tablecloth.

Even when used as nouns, to capitalise these words is unheard of.

All my future attacks upon you will be of the provoked variety.

You jackass.


TNBT

[Iceman1981]

 The issue here is not whether you consider White bodybuilders good or not, but whether you consider them to be better than Black bodybuilders. So far, I have never seen you give the nod to a White bodybuilder over a Black one, so my point stands.

  And yet you still prefer Ronnie. My point stands: you always prefer the Black guy over the White guy.

  It is exactly because I've read your posts that I can see what a biased nut-hugging, intellectually inferior racist you are. You post the result of polls as if it meant something, even though none of the people surveyed are bodybuilding judges and have no idea how a bodybuilding contest is judged. Then, you post pics of Ronnie under idela lighting and compare it to pics of Dorian from 1994 or 1996 and that's supposed to prove something.

  Not at all. It shows that they were roughly the same size although Ronnie's were more separated, vascular and striated. Since I never argued that Ronnie's arms were not more vascular and striated than Dorian's, then your comparison was a failure to prove that I was wrong about my point.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Oh boy, here we go again with your bullshyt posts again. Get a life buddy.

I said I like yates 93 physique. I didn't say I like his 93 physique better than Coleman.

I have praised lots of white bodybuilders many times. Like I said, you just can't read, so you don't know.

Since you have nothing left, that's why your stupid a$$ says I'm racist. I haven't said anything racist. If I was racist, I wouldn't of even like anything about yates, but I like his 93 physique. See how stupid you are. You keep bringing up race, looks like you are the racist one.

[suckmymuscle]

Oh boy, here we go again with your bullshyt posts again. Get a life buddy.

I said I like yates 93 physique. I didn't say I like his 93 physique better than Coleman.

I have praised lots of white bodybuilders many times. Like I said, you just can't read, so you don't know.

Since you have nothing left, that's why your stupid a$$ says I'm racist. I haven't said anything racist. If I was racist, I wouldn't of even like anything about yates, but I like his 93 physique. See how stupid you are. You keep bringing up race, looks like you are the racist one.

  Meltdown. You can think a White bodybuilder is good and still be a racist if you immediately assume that a Black bodybuilder is better by default. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you always prefer the Black bodybuilder over the White ones because of the physique typel because the White bodybuilder that you don't like truly are all blocky while all the Black ones have round muscles and svelte waists. Nevertheles, it is still strange that you always prefer the Black guy over the White guy.

  And I have nothing left? First of all, you are Johnny-come-late in this thread, while I have been here since the very beggining. Go back and read my posts and you'll see that no one, with the possible exception of ND, has written as much as I have for why I believe that Dorian at his best would defeat Ronnie at his best. You, conversely, have nothing but poor comparisons with the light and angles that make Ronnie look better comparing him to Dorian at his worst. So who has nothing left?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

You, conversely, have nothing but poor comparisons with the light and angles that make Ronnie look better comparing him to Dorian at his worst

 

um no.

we have been comparing these 99 shots to 93 dorian shots and they are NOT dorian at his worst.

its just that ronnie was so much better.

[NarcissisticDeity]

um no.

we have been comparing these 99 shots to 93 dorian shots and they are NOT dorian at his worst.

its just that ronnie was so much better.

you're a liar plain & simple you've compared Ronnie 99 to Dorian 1991/92/93/94/95/96/97 spare yourself from further embarssment

[Iceman1981]

  Meltdown. You can think a White bodybuilder is good and still be a racist if you immediately assume that a Black bodybuilder is better by default.
 

Who says I assume black bodybuilders are better by default? You're assuming things. See how stupid you are. Go back to little fantasy world and leave this race issue alone. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.