Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[WOOO]

i dream of the day when this thread gets locked.... 

[Hulkster]

hence Dorian beats the advantages Ronnie has because he is COMPLETE and Ronnie is NOT ,

 does that mean Porter Cottrel would beat Ronnie too?

 

and I guess you failed to notice WHY I was told to stop posting earlier:

it was because you are stupid and will never learn.

but then, you had to understand english in order to know that.

I swear, be glad you never went to university. you would not have made it past first year with your reading comprehension skills.

sorry, but its true..

[PANDAEMONIUM]

Peter Mcgough

  "These words should not be taken lightly, because no bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows."

Dorian is conditioning and its NOT been improved upon since he retired

Interview with David Robson

[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?

      Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.


      One thing that I think people underrated me on - it was never really mentioned because of my sheer physical size and condition - was my balance and proportion. Not only from muscle group to muscle group, but from upper body to lower body. My skeletal structure and everything else was there and in good balance.

his trademark was his super hard condition its NOT Colemans

Kevin Horoton GetBig Dec 30th

The photo is technically terrible, fortunately the physique is awesome.
I'd agree with Kris about Dorian showing up on stage how he looked a few weeks out. There are some shots of him at around 280 - 285 shredded. That conditioning has not been surpassed.

( Oh and keep note all of these quotes are recent and NOT 12 years old ) 280-285 and that conditioning has NOT been surpassed

Flex Magazine October 2004 - Peter McGough’s commentary on the "voodoo" that has now reached ridiculous complexity when it comes to trying to "dry out" bodybuilders so they’re more ripped than any anatomy chart illustration on contest day. He quotes former Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates, who notes that despite the chemistry experiments with insulin and diuretics, "I don’t see the guys getting any harder."

Dorian commenting of on the obvious guys are NOT getting harder since his days , so when you say Coleman is the ' next level ' you're full of shit and you're ignorant and my knowledge crushes yours .

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[PANDAEMONIUM]

Hulkster you're iceskating uphill again , and you keep falling flat on your face , Dorian beat Ronnie when he was at his absolute worse , he had a torn bicep , a torn tricep , a torn quad and a bloated gut , Ronnie enjoy the advantage of a " superior " taper " superior " detail , " superior " aesthetics , a really tiny waist , and according to you a much " superior " chest , delts , arms , and upper back etc and yet he still-fucking-lost lol don't you get it?

What was new with the 1998 Coleman phsyique that wasn't with the 1997 one? improved conditioning ! whats that mean? ripped glutes & tight hamstrings , he was competing at 245-250lbs in 1996/1997 and he was 249lbs in 1998 , his basic proportions remained the same , as well as his dimensions , Chad helped him get rid of the water in his lower back and his once problamatic glutes & hams

Quote Peter McGough Flex magazine Jan 2001
2001 Mr Olympia Ronnie was 265lbs and way off , 2002 Mr Olympia he was 245lbs and way off again, 2003 he was 287lbs , 2004 296lbs and in 2005 he was 280lbs , it doesn't take a genius to see Ronnie looked his best at 250lbs and his best Olympia apperance was 1998 at 249bs

Now you say if they meet at their respective primes Ronnie would beat Dorian with ease lol and if Dorian beat Ronnie at his ideal bodyweight and less than perfect conditioning , with a torn bicep , a torn tricep and a torn quad and a bloated gut ( 1997 ) you think for one moment he would stand a snowballs chance in hell with a injury free 257lb Dorian Yates ? the only new advantage Ronnie would bring to the table would be better conditioning and thats it , and Yates had among the best conditioning the sport has ever seen , years after people are still talking about how grainy he was

Another indicator on how well a prime condition Ronnie would fair is the 1998 Mr Olympia , a lot of people say Ronnie won because he had the ripped glutes & hams and Flex didn't , Ronnie beat a less than steller Flex by just 3 points for probably the closest Mr Olympia contest in history , Dorian in 1993 dominated a much sharper Flex and Dorian in 93 had striated glutes and his hams were excellent , so again Ronnie gains nothing and wouldn't stand a fucking-chance against a healthy injury free Dorian Yates

Ronnie couldn't handle a past-prime injured Yates and you have to be on crack ( thanks Ron  ) to entertain for one moment that a Ronnie Coleman could ever come close to a prime opperating Dorian Yates nevermind beat him easily according to you , you say I'm delusional , I say you are , you're to emotionaly envolved to see that your hero isn't a great as you think he is and it kills you to find out that even with all his ' advanatges ' Ronnie wasn't good enough , but anway I tried to call a truce out of respect for other people on this board and you wanted no part of it and now I've been owning you for pages now , I don't want to kick a dog when its down , I'll let you crawl back into your hole with your tail between your legs and lick your wounds , because you just got a " GetBig-Style " owning on a grand scale !! 

 

[Hulkster]

that is pretty much everyone's response to one of ND's ridiculous posts..

[NarcissisticDeity]

does that mean Porter Cottrel would beat Ronnie too?

 

and I guess you failed to notice WHY I was told to stop posting earlier:

it was because you are stupid and will never learn.

but then, you had to understand english in order to know that.

I swear, be glad you never went to university. you would not have made it past first year with your reading comprehension skills.

sorry, but its true..

Oh you make it all to easy and why? this statement highlights your fucking stupidity and your ignorance of bodybuilding

does that mean Porter Cottrel would beat Ronnie too?

No that doesn't mean he would beat Ronnie and why? He's NOT comparable in terms of muscular bulk , and terms of conditioning ( depending on the year )

If your abilities are indicative of your University's teachings please ask for a refund post haste !

you can't counter my argument and thats why you don't want to post ! you can keep posting pictures and leaving ignorant comments that doesn't change the fact that Ronnie is at a disadvantage in conditioning to Dorian and himself in 1998 , I know you're bound to your dumb assesment that Ronnie 99 is better conditioned than 1998 and really can't back off from the statement because it will once again high-light you're ignorance about competitive bodybuilding , but don't fret I already know you're clueless about competitive bodybuilding hell you're saying two eyewitnesses and one of them the man in question says his best conditioning was 1998

Dorian would beat Ronnie why? he's better conditioned , has better density , has equal bulk , has better balance & proportion and is a better technical poser you can't fucking counter this NONE OF YOU HAVE you all cling to better parts or hyperfocus on a tiny part of the criteria and dismiss the rest , thats NOT how it works

I proved my point Dorian has better balance & proportion
I proved my point Dorian has better conditioning & density
I proved my point Dorian has better bulk than Ronnie 98 and equal 99
I proved my point Dorian is a better technical poser

what have you done? posted pictures which is inaccurate you've proven nothing especially when you're saying Ronnie is wrong and so is McGough , I stuck a fork in you a long time go you're done , you're just to stupid to realize it.

[Hulkster]

all together now:

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

that is pretty much everyone's response to one of ND's ridiculous posts..

No thats the response to people who can't counter me , they're dumbfounded realize they can't counter my arguments or the eyewitnesses accounts so they're left with rolling eyes , the old adage applies " Silence speaks volumes . "

[NarcissisticDeity]

You must have went to the Hulkster school of denial in Canada , they think they're smarter than eyewitnesses . lol

[Hulkster]

posted pictures which is inaccurate

the ONLY reason you are claiming they are 'inaccurate' is because they show Ronnie kicking dorian's ass all the way back to England, not to mention that that they show most of what you type is, in fact, incorrect.


If the shoe was on the other foot, you would be posting 12000 pics in every post if dorian dominated ronnie in the visual comparisons.

but he does not.

he gets his ass handed to him. In all but two poses..

[PANDAEMONIUM]

You must have went to the Hulkster school of denial in Canada , they think they're smarter than eyewitnesses . lol

No, I actually didn't even read your post.  Just quoted it at random so I could increase my post count ASAP.

[EL Mariachi]

Hulkster im calling for a truce.  BTW Chris Cormier is Owning Bubba in those shots, thats a gifted bodybuilder.

[Hulkster]

No thats the response to people who can't counter me , they're dumbfounded realize they can't counter my arguments or the eyewitnesses accounts so they're left with rolling eyes , the old adage applies " Silence speaks volumes . "

not posting visual comparisons when discussing which physique is better IS silence, dumbass.

thats you.

you try and get as far away from anything visual as you can in this debate.

its no  secret why:

[slaveboy1980]

No, I actually didn't even read your post.  Just quoted it at random so I could increase my post count ASAP.

dont worry, your just continuing the tradition in this thread.

[NarcissisticDeity]

the ONLY reason you are claiming they are 'inaccurate' is because they show Ronnie kicking dorian's ass all the way back to England, not to mention that that they show most of what you type is, in fact, incorrect.


If the shoe was on the other foot, you would be posting 12000 pics in every post if dorian dominated ronnie in the visual comparisons.

but he does not.

he gets his ass handed to him. In all but two poses..

No I'm not claiming pictures are inaccurate Bodybuilding Photographers , Judges and writers  are and I agree with them 


Mr Gethin GetBig Steptember 10 , 2007

Beat Ronnie fare and square on the european tour...Huh? Were you there? Did you know anyone who was there, or are you speculating via pics? I'm a contest photog and can tell you that pics dont always give a true depiction.

Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007

The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...



Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates

" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.

MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia


" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .

Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.

" Chris Cormier standing next to Dorian onstage he sensed ' radiation coming off him , like an aura. ' The power of that muscle was tangible. It exerted a force all of its own.  Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hradness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live.

Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002

Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).



Counter this I fucking dare you !

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hulkster im calling for a truce.  BTW Chris Cormier is Owning Bubba in those shots, thats a gifted bodybuilder.

Great post ! Cormier is a natural gifted bodybuilder

[NarcissisticDeity]

No, I actually didn't even read your post.  Just quoted it at random so I could increase my post count ASAP.

Great post ! lol

[PANDAEMONIUM]

Great post ! lol

haha, well I wanted to help you guys get to page 2000 more quickly

[NarcissisticDeity]

not posting visual comparisons when discussing which physique is better IS silence, dumbass.

thats you.

you try and get as far away from anything visual as you can in this debate.

its no  secret why:

lmfao and you had the balls to complain about my comparison lol hypocrite

try and counter my points that pictures are inaccurate I dare you .

[Hulkster]

try and counter my points that pictures are inaccurate I dare you .

you are the only person on the whole internet that thinks pics are so highly 'inaccurate'..

like I said, how convenient considering how badly dorian is dominated..

pics are a valid medium in this sport.

have been for 50+ years.

and will continue to be.

Just because dorian gets owned in all but two poses does NOT mean all of a sudden that all the pics in bodybuilding are 'inaccurate'..


I know you would like this to be true, but the fact is, it is not.
 

[brian36]

ND might as well try to argue that gravity doesn't exist.

[PANDAEMONIUM]

you are the only person on the whole internet that thinks pics are so highly 'inaccurate'..

like I said, how convenient considering how badly dorian is dominated..

pics are a valid medium in this sport.

have been for 50+ years.

and will continue to be.

Just because dorian gets owned in all but two poses does NOT mean all of a sudden that all the pics in bodybuilding are 'inaccurate'..


I know you would like this to be true, but the fact is, it is not.
 

Hulkster loses.

GAME OVER.

[Till_I-Collapse]

After following this thread for a long time, I think that the one thing all participants agred upon is.....




















Jay Cutler sucks!

[RocketSwitch625]

Hulkster loses.

GAME OVER.

Why the fuck can't Sulkster and Farty just accept that not everybody shares their opinion?

Right now Angelina Jolie is considered to be the hottest thing in Hollywood but I think she looks like Mick Jagger with a migraine.

You've heard the saying "Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and some stink more than others".





Unfuckingcanny:

[Hulkster]

ND might as well try to argue that gravity doesn't exist.

LMAO!

agreed.

although newtonian mechanics does not hold true for the very very small.

although ND would not know this.

it takes someone with a post secondary education! hahahahaha

I love making fun of ND's demonstrated stupidity!