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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35125 on: September 23, 2007, 05:10:45 AM »
ND might as well try to argue that gravity doesn't exist.

A point i've made; lighting, judging criteria and camera angles also make gravity  debatable. :-\

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35126 on: September 23, 2007, 05:12:34 AM »
A point i've made; lighting, judging criteria and camera angles also make this debatable. :-\


pumpster...is that really you in those pictures that others have posted? 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35127 on: September 23, 2007, 05:22:22 AM »
you are the only person on the whole internet that thinks pics are so highly 'inaccurate'..

like I said, how convenient considering how badly dorian is dominated.. ::)

pics are a valid medium in this sport.

have been for 50+ years.

and will continue to be.

Just because dorian gets owned in all but two poses does NOT mean all of a sudden that all the pics in bodybuilding are 'inaccurate'..


I know you would like this to be true, but the fact is, it is not.
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Thanks for admitting you can't  ;) and Dorian is ONLY getting ' dominated ' in your imagination you see what you want to see , Dorian still has better balance & proportion , better conditioning & density , he has equal bulk and he knows how to hit the mandatory poses

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Beat Ronnie fare and square on the european tour...Huh? Were you there? Did you know anyone who was there, or are you speculating via pics? I'm a contest photog and can tell you that pics dont always give a true depiction.


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The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...



Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates

" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.

MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia


" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .

Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.

" Chris Cormier standing next to Dorian onstage he sensed ' radiation coming off him , like an aura. ' The power of that muscle was tangible. It exerted a force all of its own.  Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hradness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live.

Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002

Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35128 on: September 23, 2007, 05:28:37 AM »
LMAO!

agreed.

although newtonian mechanics does not hold true for the very very small.

although ND would not know this.

it takes someone with a post secondary education! hahahahaha :P

I love making fun of ND's demonstrated stupidity! ;)

see projection  ;) you've been proven the biggest idiot on this thread because of your ignorance , Recall Dorian Yates is the most overrated bodybuilder ever? or he should have lost in 1993? or Ronnie dominated Jay at the 2001 Mr Olympia despite the fact he lost the whole-fucking-pre-judging? lol or Ronnie is wrong about when his best year for conditioning was ? oh or that you're just as qualified to judge a professional bodybuilding contest AT HOME BASED ON PICTURES as a judge is in person your critiques speak volumes of your stupidity and you still can't counter my argument .  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35129 on: September 23, 2007, 05:53:01 AM »
This is proof right here pictures aren't aways accurate  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35130 on: September 23, 2007, 06:51:49 AM »
This is proof right here pictures aren't aways accurate  ;)

Nonsensical example.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35131 on: September 23, 2007, 07:14:34 AM »
This is proof right here pictures aren't aways accurate  ;)

Correct. Looks like two different years.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35132 on: September 23, 2007, 08:01:48 AM »
Correct. Looks like two different years.

right and its the same contest !

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35133 on: September 23, 2007, 09:08:21 AM »
Like this:





But there's no point in explaining anything to Sulkster or Farty anymore.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35134 on: September 23, 2007, 09:27:19 AM »
This is proof right here pictures aren't aways accurate  ;)

that is one example - comparing a fantastic studio shot to a blurry not in focus contest shot with harsh lighting.. ::)


you can ALWAYS find a bad pic of anyone.

and what you are asking us to believe is that every single shot where Ronnie is dominating yates is simply a 'bad shot' of Yates?

please. don't be stupid.

comparisons like this are about as good as you will ever get without a time  machine:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35135 on: September 23, 2007, 09:39:04 AM »
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ND might as well try to argue that gravity doesn't exist.


I give you our 6-time Olympian with unblemished record based on ND's "judging criterion"

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35136 on: September 23, 2007, 09:42:50 AM »
comparisons where ronnie is dominating yates

Remember opinions are like assholes and you're a big one.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35137 on: September 23, 2007, 12:20:11 PM »
that is one example - comparing a fantastic studio shot to a blurry not in focus contest shot with harsh lighting.. ::)


you can ALWAYS find a bad pic of anyone.

and what you are asking us to believe is that every single shot where Ronnie is dominating yates is simply a 'bad shot' of Yates?

please. don't be stupid.

comparisons like this are about as good as you will ever get without a time  machine:


I proved you dead wrong stop bitching you damn crybaby and eyewitnesses  and bodybuilding photographers have specifically stated pictures are NOT accurate you're done with get it over it.

You fear Dorian Yates at his best for a reason , you post slanted comparisons for a reason and that reason is Dorian at his best was untouchable .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35138 on: September 23, 2007, 01:05:00 PM »
its funny how someone who the dorian side (incorrectly) claims has 'better conditioning" than Ronnie can have arms and legs so blurred and waterlogged in comparison to the dry conditioned and ripped muscle of Ronnie Coleman: ::)

its funny, the 93 olympia musclemag (which I found today) talks about how "deep ripped striated muscle is the true indicator of conditioning..

LOL looks they magazine writers agree with what the ronnie side has been saying all along: Ronnie was in better condition at his best...

now, what excuses will ND come up with? ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35139 on: September 23, 2007, 01:05:29 PM »
Hulkster,
Give it up bro, dont waste your time regurgitating the obvious page after page after page. Any "thinking man" knows that Ronnie Coleman is worlds beyond yates, who is not even on the list of top 5 best bodybuilders, probably not even top 10, much less being compared to the greatest bodybuilder to ever compete.




one of the most dumbest posts in the history of getbig.

yates not even top 5 or top 10?


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35140 on: September 23, 2007, 01:06:11 PM »
I proved you dead wrong stop bitching you damn crybaby and eyewitnesses  and bodybuilding photographers have specifically stated pictures are NOT accurate you're done with get it over it.

You fear Dorian Yates at his best for a reason , you post slanted comparisons for a reason and that reason is Dorian at his best was untouchable .

LOL you proved that a great studio shot looks better than a BLURRY contest shot.

wow.

did that take you all week to figure out? ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35141 on: September 23, 2007, 01:07:17 PM »

I give you our 6-time Olympian with unblemished record based on ND's "judging criterion"


this coming from someone whose life revolves a bowflex and having numreous threads per week created only for bashing.




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35142 on: September 23, 2007, 01:08:19 PM »

one of the most dumbest posts in the history of getbig.

yates not even top 5 or top 10?


lmao.

well, post tear he was pretty bad. Even the most devout dorian sausage swallower like your self has to admit that one.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35143 on: September 23, 2007, 01:29:10 PM »
you are the only person on the whole internet that thinks pics are so highly 'inaccurate'..

like I said, how convenient considering how badly dorian is dominated.. ::)

pics are a valid medium in this sport.

have been for 50+ years.

and will continue to be.

Just because dorian gets owned in all but two poses does NOT mean all of a sudden that all the pics in bodybuilding are 'inaccurate'..


I know you would like this to be true, but the fact is, it is not.
 ::)

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  Hulkster, why is it that you believe that pictures tell the whole story? A proper bodybuilding contest takes roughly six hours to be judged(pre-judging + posing round + posedown), and there is a criteria that the judges use to score the bodybuilders. You cannot post a picture of a crab shot - where Ronnie excels - from the front and then based on this say that Ronnie would win. that's utter nonsense. Then you keep bringing up "shape and detail" as reasons for why Ronnie would win, but you ignore that bodybuilders with shapes as different as Nasser and Wheeler have won bodybuilding contests, and that, while Ronnie has more details, Dorian has greater hardness.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35144 on: September 23, 2007, 01:36:32 PM »
LMAO!

agreed.

although newtonian mechanics does not hold true for the very very small.


  What the fuck is Newtonian mechanics? I think you are refering to quantum mechanics. It was invented by Heisenberg and not by Newton. And it has nothing to do with gravity. It's just that quantum mechanics and general relativity are incompatible. Gravity works both in general relativity as well as quantum mechanics. Yet, general relativity and quantum mechanics don't agree on general principle. For instance, general relativity states that nothing can travel faster than light, but the speed of light has been exceeded by photons under certain circumstances. Likewise, general relativity states that a particle cannot be at two different places simultaneously, but according to quantum mechanics, they can.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35145 on: September 23, 2007, 01:40:53 PM »
its funny how someone who the dorian side (incorrectly) claims has 'better conditioning" than Ronnie can have arms and legs so blurred and waterlogged in comparison to the dry conditioned and ripped muscle of Ronnie Coleman: ::)

its funny, the 93 olympia musclemag (which I found today) talks about how "deep ripped striated muscle is the true indicator of conditioning..

LOL looks they magazine writers agree with what the ronnie side has been saying all along: Ronnie was in better condition at his best...

now, what excuses will ND come up with? ::)

You're mistaken as usual Dorian himself said he has better conditioning than Ronnie , Lee Priest has said Dorian has better conditioning , Peter McGough and Kevin Horton said to this day Dorian's conditioning hasn't been matched

Striations are PART of conditioning , they're also genetic and Yates has plenty you think because Ronnie has more that he's better conditioned , and Dorian's are harder to see in some pictures than others this isn't an excuses its a fact , Dorian's chest is covered in striations , as well as his intercostals/obliques and his lower lats and erector spinae oh and glutes and triceps , stop mistaken striations as the ONLY indicator of great conditioning DENSITY is the high water mark for conditioning to remove the intramuscular fat is highly prized in contests , and your fucking stupidity Yates is carrying water in his arms isn't even worth a response

and NO the magazines don't agree that Ronnie was better conditioned thats your bullshit claim of trying to link Ronnie to having better conditioning and its pathetic , Dorian's conditioning is legendary , Ronnie's is NOT

Dorian 260 + pounds bone dry & rock hard , Ronnie 249 pounds bone dry & rock hard . Dorian's conditioning & mass unmatched to this day.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35146 on: September 23, 2007, 01:52:46 PM »
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and your fucking stupidity Yates is carrying water in his arms isn't even worth a response

 you mean " I can't counter the response so I won't":

 ::)

dorian's arms are blurred from water retention compared to the dry ripped and dense muscle of Ronnie Coleman:

dorian was dry in some areas, but arms and quads were NOT one of them, at least compared to one Ronnie Coleman:

Countdown to the Excuses! (and non responses): ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35147 on: September 23, 2007, 02:04:05 PM »
well, post tear he was pretty bad. Even the most devout dorian sausage swallower like your self has to admit that one.


nope, wrong as ususal.


in fact, the majority of QUALIFIED sources commeting on how great dorian was were all after 94.

owned as ususal.

just bc ronnie is a mess at the end of his career, doesnt mean dorian was.

all are post tear:





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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35148 on: September 23, 2007, 02:05:11 PM »
you mean " I can't counter the response so I won't":

 ::)

dorian's arms are blurred from water retention compared to the dry ripped and dense muscle of Ronnie Coleman:

dorian was dry in some areas, but arms and quads were NOT one of them, at least compared to one Ronnie Coleman:

Countdown to the Excuses! (and non responses): ::)



post a shot of ronnie's arms that look anything close to this - even your pics dont match up to this:


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #35149 on: September 23, 2007, 02:05:58 PM »
hulkster,

notice how dorian is the same color in every pic, unlike you who posts a different color of ronnie in every pic.

fucking tool.
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