what you fail to realize is that although there may be 'nothing wrong with it" (in your opinion) it does NOT mean it is better than Ronnie's:
ronnie's back has a better taper.
it is much thicker, esp. in the lower back area (note the paper thiness of dorian's lower back in this pose compared to the thick ridges of muscle displayed by Ronnie).
Ronnie has way better arms.
Ronnie has way better glutes and hams.
Ronnie takes it:
WOW I guess we'll just have to take your word on all that huh? lol I love when you do commit to typing why you think he is better and you use the term ' way better ' no explanation why they are ' way better ' they just are now onto of your ignorant assesment you cherry picked the criteria for what you like dismissed all the clear cut advantages Dorian has and are out right wrong on part of your critique , sit back becuse you my friend are going to get schooled in what a textbook back double biceps pose is
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.
Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.now lets address your empty claims
ronnie's back has a better taper.Okay Ronnie has a better taper although his lats are higher than Dorians , does this mean he has a better back double biceps shot? NO why? because one they don't mention anywhere in the criteria that having a better taper means a better back double biceps shot in fact no where does in mention taper at all , which explains exactly why guys like Shawn Ray who's taper lagged behind in the taper department beat many a man with much better taper , and coupled with his balance issues even if they did take this into consideration any advantage would be null and void , more on that later
it is much thicker, esp. in the lower back area (note the paper thiness of dorian's lower back in this pose compared to the thick ridges of muscle displayed by Ronnie).Oh boy this is out right fucking stupid lol Dorian's back is the epitome of thickness especially in the lower back lets start with the top of the back
Trapezius - Dorian's is much thicker than Ronnie this is NOT debatable Dorian's are larger especially his lower traps and his upper traps are just as thick if not thicker than Ronnie especially compared to 2001 and they show clear separation between the deltoids , teres major , infraspinatus and latissimus dorsi
Dorian's thickness in the teres major , infraspinatus is better than Ronnies due in large part because Dorian's back has more area this is where Ronnie's shorter torso comes into play , look at Ronnie's teres major and infraspinatus compared to Dorians , you'll notice his looks small and compacted and Dorian's are noticeably larger
Latissimus dorsi - another clear advantage for Dorian Yates and why? Dorian's insert lower near his waist , they cover more area and are outright thicker period , especially compared to Ronnie 2001 and even in the back double biceps shot you can clearly see the thickness of Dorian's lower lats in this pose ( x-mass tree )
Erector spinae - man you really fucked up on this one lol Ronnie has a much thicker lower back? I mean how fucking dumb can you be? you can see ' thick ridges ' lol yet you see absolutely NO thickness in the muscles of the lower back the erector spinae , this is another clear advantage for Dorian due in part to his thicker waist and hips , you can clearly see the thickness and development of the erector spinae ( the other half of the x-mass tree ) in Dorian's back double biceps shot its missing in Ronnies , when you typed that I literally laughed out loud ! I love when you commit to utter stupidity I mean you have no clue what so ever what you're talking about ( old news ) but you surprised me even with this one , Dorian's x-mass tree is leaps & bounds better than everyones specifically because he has thicker lower lats and lower back
Ronnie has way better arms.
Another clearly dumb fucking critique and why? because one bigger doesn't mean better ( nevermind way better ) and two you forgot balance & proportion and forearms lets break down the
arms in this particular pose
Biceps - Ronnie Coleman has fantastic biceps much higher peak than Dorian you wont get a argument out of me ( obviously ) over who has the better biceps however besides being bigger do they have anything special that Dorian doesn't ( pay attention ) in this pose? NO Dorian shows good enough biceps and he shows just as good separation of the biceps from the brachialis and separation of the deltoids and triceps brachii
Triceps - Ronnie's triceps are bigger , but do they have any other thing in this pose that Dorian does not? NO Dorian's triceps ( like Ronnies ) show clear separation from the brachialis and triceps brachii
Forearms - this my friend despite your empty claim of Ronnie having way better ' arms ' is another clear advantage for Dorian that you always gloss over for good reason too ! Dorian;s are bigger yes but like Ronnie's bigger biceps/triceps that doesn't mean much however they're better shaped and here is the difference , they are in perfect proportion with his biceps & triceps this you always neglect for a reason and look at the criteria
lets sum this up Ronnie has bigger biceps/triceps and poor proportion to his forearms , Dorian shows the same level of separation between all muscle groups of the arms as Ronnie , so any advantage in size is negated by the above mentioned problems and thats not even taking into account the rest of his balance issues
Ronnie has way better glutes and hams.Another empty claim why are his glutes better I'd love to hear an explanation for this , because they're striated take a look at the Yates photo his glutes are striated and you're going to argue over who has more striations? lmfao how weak is that ? its very hard for a lot of guys to get this dry because usually its the last spot thats tends to hold water , Yates clearly has striated glutes and if anything Ronnie's are a liability and why? because they NOT in proportion with his torso and they're overdeveloped to the point that stick out and can be seen from the front , so you may like them better but they're not better just bigger
Hams - another empty claim you always type this and you NEVER offer an explanation why are they better? what does Ronnie have that Dorian doesn't? Dorian shows clear development & separation of the biceps femoris which is clearly separated from the semimembranosus and thats clearly separated from the semitendinosus I mean seriously learn anatomy before you type !
Calves - A massive liability in this pose especially compared to someone who has them , I love how you just gloss right over this muscle group you cherry pick what you thinks wins this pose and neglect his painfully obvious weaknesses
Gastrocnemius inner and outer heads its NO contest the same with the Soleus this is obvious but the reason I'm bring it up is because of proportion to the quads which compounds the problem for Ronnie in this pose
in close Dorian has a better back double biceps shot because if you follow the criteria Dorian simply meets it better than Ronnie , head to toe balance & proportion is a clear cut advantage for Dorian , Density & Condition although Peter McGough has said NO ONE has ever been as hard or dry as Yates I think Ronnie 2001 is close enough , so this is a push , muscular bulk another advantage for Dorian 257 pounds compared to Ronnie's 244-247 pounds , posing Ronnie doesn't technically do this shot correct but its very impressive none the less I would say this is a push , Dorian is simply more compete his whole pose mind you all rounds are physique rounds is better than Ronnies and is more compete , Dorian's back double biceps shot is textbook perfect
Hulkster please learn what you're talking about before you commit to posting because you run the risk a looking very stupid but then again you're used to that .
