Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

Oh let me amend that Shawn Ray thought he got the place he deserved in 1994 lol

not if you ask him.

he was under contract back then you know.

[NarcissisticDeity]

not if you ask him.

he was under contract back then you know.

Hmm they did ask him in fact Peter McGough asked him right after the contest and thats the reply he gave , Shawn was never known to hold his tongue , he used to say that at the athletes meets that he hoped his physique was being judged and not his opinions and seeing he always placed very well I'd say the judges were very fair to him , he was a lucky bodybuilder despite not being heavy he did very well for himself in the sport but lets face it ...he wasn't beating Haney like he promised , Yates like he predicted or Ronnie .

[bizzy]

ND,

Pics don't lie but TRUTHFULLY can you honestly say
Dorian ever had this kind of hardness and definition? 

[Shockwave]

ND,

Pics don't lie but TRUTHFULLY can you honestly say
Dorian ever had this kind of hardness and definition? 

Whoa!
A sense of humor!
Don't ever leave this thread please.

[Iceman1981]

Listen because you don't pay attention I use quotes to supplement my case quotes that are NOT subjective , like conditioning & balance & proportion either you're in shape or you're not either you have great balance & proportion or you don't

please don't tell me what quotes I can and can't use thats dumb I don't have to agree with everything Peter says I'll make up my own mind , and the irony is you accept the quote from McGough when he states Ronnie 2001 being unbeatable and yet dismiss the one where he said its IMPOSSIBLE to choose a best ever Mr Olympia that makes you a hypocrite plain & simple 

I'm not telling you which quotes to use. You're picking and choosing which quotes to use for you argument. I bet if Peter had said that yates was unbeatable, you would have agreed with it and posted it a million times. That just goes to show how biased you are. Don't even deny it. You're so biased, we can see right through you. Pathetic.

All you have to do is listen to yesterdays show and you will get Peter's final word on this issue. I'll even post the link for ya 

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/player.htm

Peter gives you his answer. Try arguing with him if you can't get it through your head. 

[Iceman1981]

He then tells Lou Ferrigno he is unable to say who is the best Mr. Olympia ever. LOL

Quotes mean fuck all especially when it's coming from one person. Opinions are like arsehole remember that.

I suggest you look at the year of the quote he made when speaking with Lou and try to listen to last night's show 

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/player.htm

[Iceman1981]

 Nope. McGough states that both Ronnie 2001 ASC and Dorian in those black-and-white shots were contenders for the title of best physique ever, but that he saw one onstage and the other offstage. That is all the information that you can gather by reading that quote. Let's break the quote in parts, shall we, because you really seem to have problems comprehending the English language.

 "Personally, the best physique I saw onstage..."

  You see, dumbass, the word "onstage" here specifies that Ronnie was the best bodybuilder that he's seen in a bodybuilding stage. The fact that put the word "onstage" in that sentence implies that Peter has never seen a physique as good as 2001 ASC Ronnie's in a bodybuilding contest, but that he has seen phsysiques as good or better offstage. If Peter wanted to say that Ronnie's 2001 ASC physique was the best he's ever seen bar none, he would have just said:

  "Personally, the best physique I've ever seen was Ronnie's 2001 ASC phsysique."

  See, dumbass? If Peter had never seen a physique as good outside the bodybuilding stage, he wouldn't have need to specify that Ronnie's 2001 ASC physique was the best he's see onstage. Now let's move forward with the quote:

 "...there was a contender for best ever that I saw offstage(sock-footed Dorian Yates in those crazy black-and-white pics)."

  In other words, what Peter is saying is that he has never found a physique in the bodybuilding stage as good as Ronnie's 2001 ASC physique, but that there was one physique that was as good as his offstage, namely, Dorian in those black-and-white pics. Get it now, you mental train-wreck? Seriously, your reading comprehension is horrensdous. Once again, I own your ass. I literally took you to school and taught you elementary reading.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Again, you are slow. Here is your quote you made a few days ago moron:

"I'm sorry, but the sentence: "Ronnie would be unbeatable" leaves the question mark of whether McGough was refering to all bodybuilders who ever stepped onstage or only to Dexter Jackson, Gunther, Cutler, Baddel, etc, and the other guys who were competing with him at his time."

"He said that Ronnie would be unbeatable, but like I said, this is open to interpretation of whether he was refering only to the guys he was competing against or to all bodybuilders who ever stepped onstage. So stop making up lies to prove you case."

See how dumb you look? This is not open for interpretation of whether he was refering only to the guys he was competing against. Peter was talking about All-Time period, nimrod. Not just with guys he is competing with.

One link that crushes your argument. Peter is telling you, not me. It's Peter.  http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/player.htm

Dan Soloman - PBW - A Tribute to Ronnie Coleman - October 8, 2007:

"Peter, you've covered Ronnie Coleman every step of the way, In fact you've covered all of the great champions. What in your mind sets Ronnie apart from those past champions?"

Peter McGough  - PBW - A Tribute to Ronnie Coleman - October 8, 2007:

"For me the best physique I've ever seen was Ronnie at the 2001 ASC. He was about 245 pounds sliced and full. He was seperated from head to toe."

Take it up with Peter since your dumba$$ can't read. 

[Iceman1981]

No he states the judges would probably go with Ronnie and again its subjective it doesn't mean its fact you're stuck on a subjective topic and think you've proven anything you haven't .

you're not that sophisticated this is a common theme among Coleman fans .

What part of:

Don Soloman: “Dorian Yates on his best day vs. Ronnie Coleman on his best day, Who wins?

"Dorian Yates – Ronnie would probably beat me."

You don't understand?

I find it funny that you nuthuggers cling to quotes for months, but when you get beat at your own game, you cry and whine like little bytches. The quotes on who would win are in our favour. Even yates agrees with us. DEAL WITH IT.

[Iceman1981]

Here's a great interview with Dorian that shows
footage from most of his competitive years.

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I have always been impressed with his 1992 form.
I think he was more asthetic and leaner than any of his
other years and some of his best photos are from that year.

   

Last pic is morphed

[Iceman1981]

Most Coleman fans know nothing about bodybuilding ironic isn't it?

So yates and Peter who agree with us don't know anything about bodybuiding. Because that's what you're saying.

[Shockwave]

Holy 6 post freak out Batman.

[Hulkster]

Holy monster truthful posts

seriously. the yates nuthuggers have been running from the visual evidence for months.

they cling to some outdated quotes (and oddly, those of Lee Priest for some strange reason )

and now the quotes come back and bite them in the ass.

what sort of an argument is that?

you can't use visuals to prove your point - you lose and therefore go on about how they are fake or not under the same lighting blah blah blah..

and now, the quotes that you hold so dear are now firmly on the ronnie side..

there is nothing left.

sorry.

[The Next BIG Thing!]

Holy 6 post freak out Batman.

LOLOLOL!


TNBT

[pumpster]

Whoa!
A sense of humor!
Don't ever leave this thread please.

OK I won't.

[pumpster]

Well I'm not as arrogant to think I know more than everyone......

bwahahahaaha this is all he does is pontificate.

Meanwhile McGouth, Chick etc...Coleman best all-time BB.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'm not telling you which quotes to use. You're picking and choosing which quotes to use for you argument. I bet if Peter had said that yates was unbeatable, you would have agreed with it and posted it a million times. That just goes to show how biased you are. Don't even deny it. You're so biased, we can see right through you. Pathetic.

All you have to do is listen to yesterdays show and you will get Peter's final word on this issue. I'll even post the link for ya 

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/player.htm

Peter gives you his answer. Try arguing with him if you can't get it through your head. 

Again you are telling me which quotes I can and can't use you're the one saying if I use one I'm somehow bound to use them all while in  the process of you using one and dismissing the others , I mean this is as hypocritical as it gets

And spare me the bias claims especially coming from a Coleman guy of the first order unlike you people I'm not biased and why? I was rooting for Flex Wheeler to win in 1993 I'm not so delusional like you people to think Ronnie doesn't stand a chance in beating Dorian , something you people can't even admit 

And if Peter did say Dorian is the greatest ever I wouldn't cling to it thats your imagination , Mike Mattarazzo said in 2003 mind you Dorian may go down as the greatest bodybuilder in history , you DO NOT see me clinging to this quote and why? because it's subjective and it stand on equal footing with Peter's quote , you don't see me clinging to the Lee Priest quote as proof he would beat Ronnie by virtue of Lee saying , the same with Ernie Taylor again its such a subjective claim that everyone's opinion is equal for you to claim otherwise shows how stupid you are

And insult to injury I was the one who posted the quote from Peter McGough stating he feels Ronnie 2001 was unbeatable NONE of you ever heard that quote until I posted it , I didn't fear that quote then and I don't know because its an opinion on a subjective matter that carries no more weight than anyone else's opinion

[NarcissisticDeity]

Holy monster truthful posts

seriously. the yates nuthuggers have been running from the visual evidence for months.

they cling to some outdated quotes (and oddly, those of Lee Priest for some strange reason )

and now the quotes come back and bite them in the ass.

what sort of an argument is that?

you can't use visuals to prove your point - you lose and therefore go on about how they are fake or not under the same lighting blah blah blah..

and now, the quotes that you hold so dear are now firmly on the ronnie side..

there is nothing left.

sorry.

Monster delusion ! some how the quote that say Dorian would beat Ronnie are baseless and worthless yet in the same sentence any quote saying Ronnie would beat Dorian is honest & valuable lol great logic ! a common theme with you people is weak logic and hypocrisy

and that quote from Peter McGough from 2001 is NOTHING new I posted that well over a year ago , and what that quote proves is 1) I'm not scared of it hence why I posted it and 2) that you were dead wrong in your assessment that Ronnie 1999 was his best showing , and Neo was dead wrong in saying 2003 was his best showing NONE OF YOU dared mentioned 2001 Arnold Classic until this quote was posted and then you had some sort of proof to cling on for dear life to lol it shows how little you people know and how desperate you are

[NarcissisticDeity]

bwahahahaaha this is all he does is pontificate.

Meanwhile McGouth, Chick etc...Coleman best all-time BB.

WOW it must be true then 

[NarcissisticDeity]

"For me the best physique I've ever seen was Ronnie at the 2001 ASC. He was about 245 pounds sliced and full. He was seperated from head to toe."[/b]

Maybe you missed this part of the quote " For me " 

[Shockwave]

OK I won't.

You have the sense of humor, and the personality, of a piece of driftwood.
Please, for everyone's sake, including the Ronnie sides credibility, kill yourself now.

[IceCold]

What part of:

Don Soloman: “Dorian Yates on his best day vs. Ronnie Coleman on his best day, Who wins?

"Dorian Yates – Ronnie would probably beat me."

You don't understand?

I find it funny that you nuthuggers cling to quotes for months, but when you get beat at your own game, you cry and whine like little bytches. The quotes on who would win are in our favour. Even yates agrees with us. DEAL WITH IT.

now, you are just making stuff up.

yates was never asked about his best vs. ronnie's best and say he would loose.

in EVERY other article, he still states he would win at his best - just like every other champion does.

i have the issues and will post the quotes if need be.

you are referring to if dorian came back now, 2004, when he was asked that question.

it was posted from an MD article that you and neo mysteriously deny having the whole article, but somehow manage to ONLY post the quotes that reflect ronnie's and left out labrada, priest, dugdale, etc. who all say yates' best was the best.

stop making sh*t up.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian Yates on his best day versus Ronnie Coleman on his best say who wins?  : Thats hard for me to answer , I'd probably , Ronnie would probably beat me I guess. I don't know. its hard to say you know , its hard to say but Ronnie is now , he's coming in a great shape probably 15 or 20 pounds heavier than I was , so that might tip the balance in Ronnie's favor probably , although a I probably have a little bit better balance and better conditioning on the day of the contest


Ronnie would probably beat me I guess. I DON'T KNOW forgot those words didn't you Iceman? lol I guess . I don't know . sucker

[IceCold]

Dorian Yates on his best day versus Ronnie Coleman on his best say who wins?  : Thats hard for me to answer , I'd probably , Ronnie would probably beat me I guess. I don't know. its hard to say you know , its hard to say but Ronnie is now , he's coming in a great shape probably 15 or 20 pounds heavier than I was , so that might tip the balance in Ronnie's favor probably , although a I probably have a little bit better balance and better conditioning on the day of the contest


Ronnie would probably beat me I guess. I DON'T KNOW forgot those words didn't you Iceman? lol I guess . I don't know . sucker

dorian was being humble.


lol.

[NarcissisticDeity]

dorian was being humble.


lol.

Well Dorian was basically put on the spot and he said it was a very hard question for him to answer and when pressed he answered but the funny part is they neglect to add the part after when Yates said " I guess. I don't know. " it shows the level of desperation these guys are opperating on

Dorian is NO pushover the guy is an fierce competitor he never placed below second place in his whole pro career believe me Ronnie would have more than his hands full with Dorian , he's that good the way these guys talk its like Dorian would be lucky to receive a call out with Ronnie 1998 lol I mean get serious ! Ronnie had his hands full with Flex nevermind Dorian

Yates is a winning machine

[Hulkster]

its amazing how no one on the dorian side except for Suckmymuscle actually has a working knowledge of the english language and reading comprehension skills.

no offense, but is english not the first language of most of you?

because it sure doesn't look like it.

Dorian was a bit hesitant, for sure. Hence the 'I don't know" spoken immediately after..

but "Ronnie would probably beat me.." is about as clear as you can get.

what part of this statement do you not understand?

have you guys ever done the TOEFL test

(thats Test of English as a Foreign Language).

it might help you guys a lot with your english.