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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37200 on: November 27, 2007, 11:20:40 AM »
Ronnie was better than Dorian.

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  I am 6'4 and therfore better than a midgt like you. Discuss.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37201 on: November 27, 2007, 11:32:45 AM »
Am I allowed to say that Dillett looks like a dirty old man in this pic or would that make me a white biggot in the eyes of nut-huggers such as Farty & Pumpy? LOL

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37202 on: November 27, 2007, 01:03:42 PM »
it doesn't cause a problem.

anyone with a brain can see that changing the contrast on a ronnie or dorian pic merely makes what is already there more clear.

if you listen to ND, doing this adds new striations, makes muscles bigger, makes muscles more shapely, and turns shit into gold..

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ND is desperate and will cling to any excuse he can find.

like it has been said many  times over, this is a bullshit thread when all the visual evidence easily shows Ronnie was better.

I love how you're trying to speak for me no I don't think it adds new striations , makes muscles bigger , makes muscles more shapely , etc please show me where I typed anything remotely similar to that  ::)

and you're the same dumbass who claimed just that whenever those black & white photos were posted of Yates and even went as far as arguing that if those B&W were in color Dorian wouldn't be as impressive because , once again I can expose your hypocrisy and projection with ease

and if by ' adjusting ' the pictures do absolutely NOTHING of value as you claim , your dumbass would have been content posting the untouched ones , but NO you obviously thought if was better than the original HENCE why you posted it over every single thread , you dropped the original like a hot potato because you thought you had something much better  ;)

BOTTOM LINE : you knowingly posted photoshopped pics because you believed they were better and they weren't an accurate representation of how he appeared end of sentence , and again if I did this you would have had  a field day,  you would hoot & holla about how desperate I am because I'm losing and how Dorian looked so bad they need to photoshop his pics etc , so you are getting no reprieve


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37203 on: November 27, 2007, 01:08:04 PM »
everyone knows Dorian sucks

I wouldn't say he sucks, I'm just saying he is no Ronnie!!!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37204 on: November 27, 2007, 01:10:47 PM »
of course it is.

dorian's best is far below Ronnie's best.

anyone can see that by looking at all the stuff in this thread.

its a silly argument to claim otherwise when the visuals clearly show dorian losing.

You don't believe that for a minute , and if you did this thread would have been one page . and I believe what I type hence why I started this thread I was comfortable enough to leave my opinion to stand on its own two feet , you're so desperate to make people believe you interject every 2 seconds and have been exposed for being a Ronnie-troll in every thread .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37205 on: November 27, 2007, 01:14:13 PM »
Ronnie's pic has better arms, delts, glutes, quad sweep, hamstrings, taper, and muscle fullness.

Keep trying to rack up parts thats not how it works kid .  ;)

Dorian has the advantage in muscular bulk , balance development , density & conditioning , oh he's also complete .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37206 on: November 27, 2007, 01:21:53 PM »
it doesn't cause a problem.

anyone with a brain can see that changing the contrast on a ronnie or dorian pic merely makes what is already there more clear.

if you listen to ND, doing this adds new striations, makes muscles bigger, makes muscles more shapely, and turns shit into gold..

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  Hulkster, some types of lighting dramatically enhance separations, striations and vascularity. Those pics from the 1999 Olympia/BGP that you like so much show Ronnie with a black background and with the light coming from up. This is the ideal lighting to enhance the impressiveness of a physique to the max, and this is evident in that all bodybuilders looked incredible under that lighting.

  Conversely, Dorian's pics were taken with a lighted background and the light coming from the front, which brushes off separations. I can prove this to you. Ask someone to take pictures of you posing with the two kind of lighting and then compare. You'll see the ginormous difference. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37207 on: November 27, 2007, 01:51:48 PM »
Read em and weep  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37208 on: November 27, 2007, 06:30:31 PM »
Read em and weep

read this. ;)

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Branch Warren – Flex, October 2006

“I have a lot of respect for Ronnie. He’s probably the greatest bodybuilder there’s ever been”


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37209 on: November 27, 2007, 06:32:39 PM »
read this. ;)

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Branch Warren – Flex, October 2006

“I have a lot of respect for Ronnie. He’s probably the greatest bodybuilder there’s ever been”




Damn, all of ND's father-figures throwing it back in his face. :'(

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37210 on: November 27, 2007, 06:49:14 PM »
  I am 6'4 and therfore better than a midgt like you. Discuss.

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I think 5'10-6'0 is best.  :)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37211 on: November 27, 2007, 06:58:05 PM »
i know no one gives a shit what i post but im gonna do it anyway... this will never be over, i thought this thread stoped 10 pages ago hahaha... when someone couldn't prove there point, but instead people are coming up with quotes about ronnie, there are probably the same amount of quotes that say the same thing about dorian and there are more that reffer to arnold. i just couldn't be bothered finding them... they were both great champions in there time, but thats there are both done now...never to make an impact in the bbing world again (i'm aware that ronnie wants to do the 2009 asc but honestly he wont do very well).. like i said no one will prove that one was better than the other because they competed in different time with different standards.. just wanted to put in my opinion..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37212 on: November 27, 2007, 07:00:51 PM »
I think 5'10-6'0 is best.  :)

Discuss.

  You are wrong. The taller the better. The taller the more dominant and alpha a man is perceived to be. Discuss.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37213 on: November 27, 2007, 07:01:49 PM »
CONTINUE THE ARGUMENT

Dorian is a very, very good bodybuilder!!!  But overall I prefer Ronnie...Dorian's waist really ruined it for me...
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37214 on: November 27, 2007, 07:42:28 PM »


Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."





Post the entire paragraph that this comes from. I want to know th exact context of this quote from Peter. Suckmymuscle has mentioned that it is in reference to Ronnie's peers at that time and not of all-times including against Yates.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37215 on: November 27, 2007, 07:49:01 PM »
Post the entire paragraph that this comes from. I want to know th exact context of this quote from Peter. Suckmyasshole has mentioned that it is in reference to Ronnie's peers at that time and not of all-times including against Yates.

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack."

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37216 on: November 27, 2007, 07:52:37 PM »
Ok, so it's basically saying that if the sock-footed stood on the 01ASC stage, Ronnie would lose.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37217 on: November 27, 2007, 08:03:19 PM »
Ok, so it's basically saying that if the sock-footed stood on the 01ASC stage, Ronnie would lose.

umm, no idiot. Did you read the part in bold that said "Ronnie sporting that look would be unbeatable?"

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37218 on: November 27, 2007, 08:08:31 PM »
umm, no idiot. Did you read the part in bold that said "Ronnie sporting that look would be unbeatable?"

The quote is referring to onstage against his current peers i.e. Gay Gutler.

Dorian in his sock form would defeat 01AC Coleman for the same reason that you believe an 03 Coleman would defeat Dorian.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37219 on: November 27, 2007, 08:13:28 PM »
umm, no idiot. Did you read the part in bold that said "Ronnie sporting that look would be unbeatable?"

  SemenHole, he would be unbeatable because Dorian in those Kevin Horton pics was offstage. McGough especifically said that Dorian in the black-and-whites would be a "contender" for best ever. What do you think the word "contender" means? ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37220 on: November 27, 2007, 08:17:39 PM »
  SemenHole, he would be unbeatable because Dorian in those Kevin Horton pics was offstage. McGough especifically said that Dorian in the black-and-whites would be a "contender" for best ever. What do you think the word "contender" means? ;)

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I can't believe this is what we are dealing with. I knew something was fishy when he only posts a very short quote with no context. I'm glad you brought it to our attention that he was twisting McGough's words.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37221 on: November 27, 2007, 08:21:03 PM »
The quote is referring to onstage against his current peers i.e. Gay Gutler.

nowhere in the quote does Peter McGough refer to only Ronnie's peers. He specially says the best physique he EVER saw was Ronnie's at the 01 ASC.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37222 on: November 27, 2007, 08:23:54 PM »
nowhere in the quote does Peter McGough refer to only Ronnie's peers. He specially says the best physique he EVER saw was Ronnie's at the 01 ASC.

And the best he ever saw offstage was Yates. Why are your reading comprehension skills so bad? A 269 Yates would dwarf the 244 Ronnie.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37223 on: November 27, 2007, 08:25:11 PM »
Sir NeoSeminole, he would be unbeatable because Dorian in those Kevin Horton pics was offstage. McGough especifically said that Dorian in the black-and-whites would be a "contender" for best ever. What do you think the word "contender" means?

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

contend: to strive or vie in contest or rivalry.

show me where it says "to tie." It's possible for someone to be a contender yet still lose. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #37224 on: November 27, 2007, 08:27:20 PM »
And the best he ever saw offstage was Yates. Why are your reading comprehension skills so bad? A 269 Yates would dwarf the 244 Ronnie.

"Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable." I don't see Dorian's name, only Ronnie's.