Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

man the stupidity of the yates camp blows my mind, ronnies back has been much much bigger then that, see the 03 olympia, he would dwarf dorian, his joints are smaller, muscles bellies are fuller and he was heavier.

You don't know if his back has been ' much much ' bigger thats a GUESS on your part how the fuck would you know? 03 Olympia wouldn't dwarf Dorian again more speculation on your behalf and his muscle bellies are fuller? how about those calves and forearms are they full muscle bellies? NO stop making blanket statements and he was heavier thats NO advantage because he's a hell of a lot softer at that weight .

[Necrosis]

You don't know if his back has been ' much much ' bigger thats a GUESS on your part how the fuck would you know? 03 Olympia wouldn't dwarf Dorian again more speculation on your behalf and his muscle bellies are fuller? how about those calves and forearms are they full muscle bellies? NO stop making blanket statements and he was heavier thats NO advantage because he's a hell of a lot softer at that weight .

blanket statements? you say dorian had better proportion not taking into account that his calves are too large, arms are too small, with one arm being smaller then the other, back too large and a wide waist.


you argue like a child, its obvious you have no education because when pictures show the opposite of your assertion you rely on quotes as if there are no quotes from ronnies camp. you pick and choose what quotes you like, and even then you still loose the visual comparisons. i thought bodybuilding was visual not based on quotes from biased sources. flex likes ronnie, hence he says positive things about ronnie, gasp surely your not that stupid.

fuck off and look at what the pictures are showing you, dorian would loose, there are polls that also show the majority agrees with us. i geuss peter trumps everyone with his OPINION. it makes me cringe when you post, because you can barely read peoples responses and form a cogent rebuttal, and we have to chase you around to get a straight answer because you decide to put words in our mouths.

[Iceman1981]

after more than 1530 pages yates is declared the winner in a landslide, ronnie a dismale second, yates' condition and size is just too much for pore old ronnie to overcome, Ronnie did put up a good fight trying to combate yates strengths, but no matter what people could say in this thread dorian is easily declared the winner, if anyone out there needs proof, please feel free to scroll on any one of the 1530 pages and you will find more than enough evidence to prove that yates wins...
YATES WINS THE TRUCE THREAD

........and when you wake up from that dream, you will be very disappointed.

[NarcissisticDeity]

blanket statements? you say dorian had better proportion not taking into account that his calves are too large, arms are too small, with one arm being smaller then the other, back too large and a wide waist.


you argue like a child, its obvious you have no education because when pictures show the opposite of your assertion you rely on quotes as if there are no quotes from ronnies camp. you pick and choose what quotes you like, and even then you still loose the visual comparisons. i thought bodybuilding was visual not based on quotes from biased sources. flex likes ronnie, hence he says positive things about ronnie, gasp surely your not that stupid.

fuck off and look at what the pictures are showing you, dorian would loose, there are polls that also show the majority agrees with us. i geuss peter trumps everyone with his OPINION. it makes me cringe when you post, because you can barely read peoples responses and form a cogent rebuttal, and we have to chase you around to get a straight answer because you decide to put words in our mouths.

Did you even bother to read my post? the quotes verify what I always maintained and they obviously contradict what you're claiming and my quote is from an IFBB judge I say Dorian has better balance & proportion but who the fuck am I right? well ironically I can back up my point with a quote from a IFBB judge

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

Now you're not going to argue with an IFBB judge I think they know what they're looking for . and you say I have no education? lol which one of our opinions coinsides with the judges? not yours  and I don't rely I quote I supplement my argument with quotes and pictures and video and my assessment again you're wrong on that point as well

and you're a hypocrite who bitches up me using quotes and then proceed to quote internet polls that agree with you  and see argument ad populum for appeals to numbers , let me sum it up for you just because a majority of people agree on something doesn't make it true , this is a logically weak argument and again you're complaining about my arguments lol

This is my argument and I've supplemented my argument with quotes pics and video

Dorian at his best would beat Ronnie because he carries more muscular bulk than Ronnie depending on the year now couple that with Dorian having better balance & proportion than Ronnie ANY year , he has better conditioning than Ronnie ( see McGough's quote ) he's more complete , he has calves unlike Ronnie , and he's a better technical poser this is my argument and none of you have yet to counter it

[Iceman1981]

  I can see that "Iceman" has been very quiet lately. As he should, given the anal poundage I gave him.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I'm quite because I'm waiting for you to answer this post. That crap you tried to reply with is just pathetic. Try again and learn to read.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.msg2592943#msg2592943

[IceCold]

man the stupidity of the yates camp blows my mind, ronnies back has been much much bigger then that, see the 03 olympia, he would dwarf dorian, his joints are smaller, muscles bellies are fuller and he was heavier.

nah, it wouldnt.

yates lats are lower and he naturally has a larger skeletal structure and width.

despite ronnie's size and weight in 03 and 04, a number of guys -ruhl, cutler, gunter, etc. were all wider than ronnie despite being lighter.

samething with yates.

[Iceman1981]

Dorian looks so smooth in that shot that you could go ice skating on him.

Hell, he doesn't even have 1 striation, little to no seperation , high chest and small arms in that shot and that is supposed to be a "text book" pose? What the f*ck am I missing here?

[Iceman1981]

Looks smooth to you is he smooth?  I'm sure I don't have to crack out the McGough quote lol

So a quote would validate a pic even though the pic clearly shows the opposite?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hell, he doesn't even have 1 striation, little to no seperation , high chest and small arms in that shot and that is supposed to be a "text book" pose? What the f*ck am I missing here?

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

This is what you missed 

[NarcissisticDeity]

So a quote would validate a pic even though the pic clearly shows the opposite?

Where you there? your opinion based off an inaccurate means is supposed to prove eyewitnesses wrong? please tell me you don't believe this?

[IceCold]

Kneepads, noctural visits to uncle Joe's villa and Weider shills like ND who claim that contest politics aren't a big factor.

you wanna talk politics?

doesnt get any worse than this:

-ronnie looses the prejudging
-ronnie himself knows that he really lost.




get back in your hole and do another superset with your power rods. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

you wanna talk politics?

doesnt get any worse than this:

-ronnie looses the prejudging
-ronnie himself knows that he really lost.




get back in your hole and do another superset with your power rods. 

pumpster  = owned

[IceCold]

pumpster  = owned

its only been going on since this thread started.


not to mention the threads entirely created for the sole purpose of bashing this monkey.

[NarcissisticDeity]

its only been going on since this thread started.


not to mention the threads entirely created for the sole purpose of bashing this monkey.

You should have seen when someone typed in the boxing thread about Marciano beating Joe Louis man he saw red anytime a white guy beats a black guy he's ready with the excuses someone better put him on suicide watch if Hatton beats Mayweather lol

[Iceman1981]

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

This is what you missed 

Those quotes still don't validate the pic.  We still don't see what you are looking at? Are you even looking at the pic? He looks nothing like what Peter said he looked like in the quote. So you have a few eye witness quotes that support yates and Team Coleman has so many eye witness quotes that we can't even count supporting Ronnie and you think we missed something? Actually, this is what you missed.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Those quotes still don't validate the pic.  We still don't see what you are looking at? Are you even looking at the pic? He looks nothing like what Peter said he looked like in the quote. So you have a few eye witness quotes that support yates and Team Coleman has so many eye witness quotes that we can't even count supporting Ronnie and you think we missed something? Actually, this is what you missed.

I beg to differ I don't see anything wrong with that shot I see a textbook perfect front latspread with a balanced physique , you people think his arms are to small I disagree I think you're basing it on Ronnie's shot and his shot is lacking in balance & proportion

again she's an IFBB judge and you're contradicting her in all probablity its YOUR opinion thats wrong.

[Necrosis]

I beg to differ I don't see anything wrong with that shot I see a textbook perfect front latspread with a balanced physique , you people think his arms are to small I disagree I think you're basing it on Ronnie's shot and his shot is lacking in balance & proportion

again she's an IFBB judge and you're contradicting her in all probablity its YOUR opinion thats wrong.

listen, you way to biased to participate in a discussion.


does he have any cuts in his chest, delts? no. literally none. he has no ab seperation, and absolutely no detail in his arms in that shot. his legs lack all seperation and shape in that pose as well. his lats are monstrous, in fact, they are way to big for his arms, his arms look to be about 18-19 inches in that shot with a back belonging to a 275 pounder. there is nothing textbook about that shot. he lacks all signs of conditioning in that shot, with bad proportion and im not sure what muscular bulk your referring too. his arms, chest and delts look small, as does his quads. his lats however are gigantic.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

Interview with David Robson

[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?

      Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.


      One thing that I think people underrated me on - it was never really mentioned because of my sheer physical size and condition - was my balance and proportion. Not only from muscle group to muscle group, but from upper body to lower body. My skeletal structure and everything else was there and in good balance.

When asked on PBW who would win if him and Ronnie faced he said he has better balance , McGough has commented on his excellent balance . you people see what you want .

[IceCold]

Those quotes still don't validate the pic.  We still don't see what you are looking at? Are you even looking at the pic? He looks nothing like what Peter said he looked like in the quote. So you have a few eye witness quotes that support yates and Team Coleman has so many eye witness quotes that we can't even count supporting Ronnie and you think we missed something? Actually, this is what you missed.

actually, its the opposite.

team coleman?

who?

pumpster and his bowflex and the worst guy of all time - hulkster.

how are those credible sources?

also, i've said this for over a year - there have been numerous people on THIS thread that at first thought ronnie was better.

after all the pictures (at least of the same quality) have changed their mind and give the edge to yates.

there has not been ONE person who thought the opposite - dorian better, then changed their mind to ronnie.

[NarcissisticDeity]

listen, you way to biased to participate in a discussion.


does he have any cuts in his chest, delts? no. literally none. he has no ab seperation, and absolutely no detail in his arms in that shot. his legs lack all seperation and shape in that pose as well. his lats are monstrous, in fact, they are way to big for his arms, his arms look to be about 18-19 inches in that shot with a back belonging to a 275 pounder. there is nothing textbook about that shot. he lacks all signs of conditioning in that shot, with bad proportion and im not sure what muscular bulk your referring too. his arms, chest and delts look small, as does his quads. his lats however are gigantic.

LMFAO way to biased talk about the pot calling the kettle black again your OPINION contradicts and IFBB judge and a former editor of Flex magazine and you weren't even there and you have the balls to tell people who were there they're wrong lol

great logic 

[IceCold]

hulkster, where are you?


hahahahaha

[England_1]

That front lat spread is TEXTBOOK perfect, no flaws. And for all the jackasses saying he is lacking detail, it's due to the photograph. ND has posted 95 shots which show just how inhuman Yates' 95 condition truly was.

[NarcissisticDeity]

actually, its the opposite.

team coleman?

who?

pumpster and his bowflex and the worst guy of all time - hulkster.

how are those credible sources?

also, i've said this for over a year - there have been numerous people on THIS thread that at first thought ronnie was better.

after all the pictures (at least of the same quality) have changed their mind and give the edge to yates.

there has not been ONE person who thought the opposite - dorian better, then changed their mind to ronnie.

These are just from the YouTube commentary


dorian is the greatest mr olympia and the best bb ever!!!!!! and he will be that for a long time. he is still awesome!!

Dorian was and be the best bodybuilder around the world and the all times, sorry ronnie and jay and arnol je je je

Perfect he looks amazing

thanks for posting, the one and only true KING of the IRON GAME

king of bodybuilding....perfect video.

simply the best!!!

Holy Crap! Dorian looks incredible. Thanks for sharing the clip!!!

un-fuccking-believable!!!!

and these are from this site when the video was first posted

even three weeks out he owns Ronnie

That was awesome!

Jesus he was huge!

14 years ago.....   Sad

Yet another sign that bodybuilding is dying...who gets people this excited anymore?

Dorian looked fucking great there. Look when hes preparing to do a back lat spread.....absolute dryness and hes 3 weeks out.....

I'm a admire ronnie a lot but no matter how I look at it I cannot find many flaws on dorian.....he was so complete. he'd win a head to head olympia with ronnie in best shapes.

Dorian 93 was absolutely insane looking
was this from the infamous black/white photos photo shoot?

This video is madness.  Looks like ND was right this whole time and Hulkster has just wasted several thousand posts over the last couple years

Well, I think this video puts paid to the truce thread.

hulkster, calm down, your almost frantic!   

dorian is looking insane in that video..never seen it before!

that was when he was still amazing..before he started to come apart.

that video is proof that he overdieted to several of his olympia competitions..

insane calves.

there is no doubt that dorian was one of the best bodybuilders on earth and there are plenty of videos and real life experience to demonstrate it,,when it comes to genetics:what you do with this genetics ratio...dorian is by far by a mile the best bodybuilder to ever walk earth,,

Yates looked unreal in that video.

His calves looked over 20 inches in that video.. 

Fucking sick conditioning and mass.

Shit, I never thought Dorian was THIS good. He was amazing, the most impressive bodybuilder ever, without a doubt.

Hulkster, I'm not a fan of Ronnie's and Dorian's physiques, even if I own a couple of DVDS from each one, so I do have a totally unbiased opinion. To tell the truth, Dorian is far more impressive in that clip than Ronnie in "The Unbelievable"; minus the biceps, which are simply light years ahead on Coleman, Dorian owns Ronnie on every bodypart. Look at those calves, look at those tris, look how dry yet dense Dorian's muscles are; he's just way more complete than Ronnie ever was. I'm speaking of 1993 of course, after that year Dorian shouldn't have won any Mr O IMO. Ronnie may be the freakiest bodybuilder to ever enter a stage, but Dorian in that particular clip is just amazing.

I can't argue with those shots; he was looking pretty incredible and I'm not even a huge Dorian fan

holy cow thats insane . i was at the 03 O and I'm a huge ronnie fan but even he cant touch this , yates arms are huge and his calves mindblowing ! no way could big ron touch him.

no contest, lucky for ronnie dorian came 10 yrs before him!

Ive Flipped the coin Dorian 93 was the Benchmark, Im going with Dorian

I think this video shows how much more complete a BB'er Dorian was.  I think Ronnie is impressive in a "Paul Dillet" sorta way with great arms and quads but I think Dorian's body is more even while still keeping ungodly amounts of muscle.



and these are from ALL different members NONE of which are from us . !!

so much for the masses

[NarcissisticDeity]

That front lat spread is TEXTBOOK perfect, no flaws. And for all the jackasses saying he is lacking detail, it's due to the photograph. ND has posted 95 shots which show just how inhuman Yates' 95 condition truly was.

Again they see what they want !

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

Dorian's conditioning is without equal