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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39625 on: January 19, 2008, 09:25:35 AM »
ND, just so you know, my Canadian 'shit ass' university is rated in the top 20 universities ON THE PLANET. in addition to number one in Canada.

just so you know. :P


LMFAO my ass prove this point because you can't about Ronnie's conditioning being better in 99 lol

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39626 on: January 19, 2008, 09:27:11 AM »
once again, you overlook the fact that Ronnie is quoted in M and F as stating at the 99 contest he was in better shape than in 98.

its in the mag. go and read it.

so, once again, for every one of your quotes, we have contradictory ones.

tell us ND, what are you going to do.

ps I am going to get someone on one of the boards who has the mag to scan it, and I will posted it for you to cry on.

just so you know.

it doesn't matter if he did what matters is that at the end of his career he reflected on this topic in 2007 and he he said 1998  ;) and you've already been exposed for making quotes up in the past I don't trust you

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39627 on: January 19, 2008, 09:30:11 AM »
He was pretty big back in the day



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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39628 on: January 19, 2008, 09:31:23 AM »
In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart.

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.  In comparison to 98, his thighs are enourmous with a greater sweep and his front delts have improved; plus the pec anomaly (gyno) is no longer present.

Impressive split biceps.  An awesome back double biceps on which muscle fights with muscle to hang onto his frame.  A big, big lat spead promted Dorian "backman" yates to comment, "ronnie looks like a cartoon character".  when doing back poses, ronnie would hitch up his trunks to expose ripped glutes.


No contradiction couple this with Ronnie and you're owned by eyewitnesses lol sucker.

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39629 on: January 19, 2008, 09:32:26 AM »
LMFAO go away Neo stop injecting YOUR own criteria into the mix , like Hulkster trying to fluff up Ronnie's strengths

I used the criteria you posted, idiot. The only thing I added was shape which Bev Francis mentions is important. So you're essentially telling me an IFBB Mr. Olympia judge is wrong.

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Dorian is more complete he lacks NOTHING Ronnie does , Dorian is a much better poser , he carries 257 DENSE CONDITIONED pounds , he has much superior balance & proportion

ha ha ha, get off Dorian's nuts. He wasn't more complete otherwise most people would say Dorian is the best bodybuilder of all-time. I assure you everyone else is looking at the same pics and videos as you. Guess what? They disagree with you. ;)

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39630 on: January 19, 2008, 09:33:09 AM »
With shots like this, the bricklayer was quite fortunate to be amongst the best of the tier-B Olympians. The Columbu of the 90s.. :-\

Yates is the poster-child for Weider politics at it's best!

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39631 on: January 19, 2008, 09:36:03 AM »
I used the criteria you posted, idiot. The only thing I added was shape which Bev Francis mentions is important. So you're essentially telling me an IFBB Mr. Olympia judge is wrong.

ha ha ha, get off Dorian's nuts. He wasn't more complete otherwise most people would say Dorian is the best bodybuilder of all-time. I assure you everyone else is looking at the same pics and videos as you. Guess what? They don't disagree with you. ;)

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I used the criteria you posted, idiot. The only thing I added was shape which Bev Francis mentions is important. So you're essentially telling me an IFBB Mr. Olympia judge is wrong.

NO you didn't you added what you think wins contests and shape give me a break Yates beat everyone and it wasn't because it was the most shapely

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ha ha ha, get off Dorian's nuts. He wasn't more complete otherwise most people would say Dorian is the best bodybuilder of all-time. I assure you everyone else is looking at the same pics and videos as you. Guess what? They don't disagree with you. ;)

I'm not on his nutts jackass did you see me post anywhere Dorian was the greatest bodybuilder ever? NOPE  and spare me the tired argument ad populum I don't care what you and the rest of the nutt huggers claim and see


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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39632 on: January 19, 2008, 09:37:59 AM »
With shots like this, the keg was lucky to be the best of the best of tier-B Olympians. The Columbu of the 90s.. :-\

Ha Ha Ha all the trolls are here lol B-tier would be a guy who was beaten while Mr Olympia , B-tier would be a guy who has a win/loss ratio of 40% and we all know who that is.  ;)

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39633 on: January 19, 2008, 09:39:57 AM »
Ha Ha Ha all the trolls are here lol B-tier would be a guy who was beaten while Mr Olympia , B-tier would be a guy who has a win/loss ratio of 40% and we all know who that is.  ;)

This from a Weider shill who still can't explain some of the Olympia contest decisions including Columbu over Padilla bwaahahahahahaahahh epic contradictions from our Iron Age kid here. :-*

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39634 on: January 19, 2008, 09:42:49 AM »
This from a Weider shill who still can't explain some of the Olympia contest decisions including Columbu over Padilla bwaahahahahahaahahh epic contradictions from our Iron Age kid here. :-*

From the MORON who claims politics for EVERYONE except Ronnie , go back to playing with your powerrods  ;)

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39635 on: January 19, 2008, 09:52:09 AM »
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it doesn't matter if he did
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wrong. it totally matters, because it shows exactly how, just like with this peter quote, that you are picking and chosing which quotes to side with in a set of contradictory ones.

you can't do that.

when two quotes contradict each other, neither one is credible if they are from the same source. We don't know which one is right.

we have to go to other means to find the answer, and that answer is right here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

if you honestly think he was better in 98 than this, well, there is no hope for you.
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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39636 on: January 19, 2008, 09:54:28 AM »
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wrong. it totally matters, because it shows exactly how, just like with this peter quote, that you are picking and chosing which quotes to side with in a set of contradictory ones.

you can't do that.

when two quotes contradict each other, neither one is credible if they are for the same source. We don't know which one is right.

we have to go to other means to find the answer, and that answer is right here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

if you honestly think he was better in 98 than this, well, there is no hope for you.

Hulkster again please show where the quote says Ronnie was harder & drier it doesn't you're owned , go away and come back with something .

and what about this top 20 university ?

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39637 on: January 19, 2008, 09:59:03 AM »
Hulkster again please show where the quote says Ronnie was harder & drier it doesn't you're owned , go away and come back with something .

and what about this top 20 university ?

ND, I am sick and tired of explaining simple english to you.

the quote is there, read it again.

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In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier

it says he displayed the size that he lacked the year before.

it says he displayed the condition that he lacked the year before

it says he lacked the fullness he lacked the year before.




I don't know how else to explain it. just because you don't understand English does not mean the rest of us don't.

this is a bodybuilding board ND. If you need English lessons, go elsewhere.

not here.


and besides, you claim he was not as well conditioned in 98, well, where is the visual evidence to show this.

if he was, it should be easy to show. We are all waiting..

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39638 on: January 19, 2008, 10:00:42 AM »
ND, I am sick and tired of explaining simple english to you.

the quote is there, read it again.

it says he displayed the size that he lacked the year before.

it says he displayed the condition that he lacked the year before

it says he lacked the fullness he lacked the year before.




I don't know how else to explain it. just because you don't understand English does not mean the rest of us don't.

this is a bodybuilding board ND. If you need English lessons, go elsewhere.

not here.



yeah I thought so  ;) NO WHERE in that quote does it say he was harder or drier in 99 you're a lair and an idiot.

he lacked the FULLNESS he had the previous year and thats it .

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39639 on: January 19, 2008, 10:03:10 AM »
yeah I thought so  ;) NO WHERE in that quote does it say he was harder or drier in 99 you're a lair and an idiot.

he lacked the FULLNESS he had the previous year and thats it .

no thats not it you illiterate moron.

sigh.

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39640 on: January 19, 2008, 10:04:55 AM »
ND, this is for you. you clearly need it badly:

 :-\
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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39641 on: January 19, 2008, 10:05:54 AM »
no thats not it you illiterate moron.

sigh.

 ::)

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha the meltdown continues

Ronnie , Shawn Perine and Peter McGough all state Ronnie best showing was either 98 or 01 and Hulkster says they're all wrong lol what a tool

again where does it say Ronnie was harder and drier in 99? it doesn't , again stop running what is the top 20 university?

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39642 on: January 19, 2008, 10:07:11 AM »
ND, this is for you. you clearly need it badly:

 :-\

I read the quote NO WHERE does it say Ronnie was harder or drier in 99 you're a liar and an idiot. I hope this helps.  ;)

top 20 university lmfao maybe top 20 in Canada

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39643 on: January 19, 2008, 11:10:18 AM »
actually, I stand corrected. upon further research the university is ranked first in canada and 23d in the world.

you clearly never went to university. your reading comprehensions skills would have prevented you from graduating anyway.

you can't even understand simple english.

and you don't even know how to support an argument.

you are arguing that Ronnie was better in 98 than in 99, but you base this simply on quotes that are contradicted and you CANNOT produce ANY VISUALS in a sport BASED on VISUALS to support your claim ::).

tell, us ND, what do you have, other than a set of quotes which are contradicted by others?

we are all waiting.

in the mean time, whatch this one more time, and see how much better he was than in 98:


http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

and how much better he was than dorian 93 too.
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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39644 on: January 19, 2008, 11:14:14 AM »
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I read the quote NO WHERE does it say Ronnie was harder or drier in 99

thats only because you can't understand fucking english, moron.

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In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier

it says he displayed the size that he lacked the year before.

it says he displayed the condition 
 that he lacked the year before

it says he lacked the fullness he lacked the year before.

why can you not understand this?
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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39645 on: January 19, 2008, 11:24:03 AM »
actually, I stand corrected. upon further research the university is ranked first in canada and 23d in the world.

you clearly never went to university. your reading comprehensions skills would have prevented you from graduating anyway.

you can't even understand simple english.

and you don't even know how to support an argument.

you are arguing that Ronnie was better in 98 than in 99, but you base this simply on quotes that are contradicted and you CANNOT produce ANY VISUALS in a sport BASED on VISUALS to support your claim ::).

tell, us ND, what do you have, other than a set of quotes which are contradicted by others?

we are all waiting.

in the mean time, whatch this one more time, and see how much better he was than in 98:


http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

and how much better he was than dorian 93 too.


No you stand corrected AGAIN the University or Toronto is 24th on the list  ;)

tell us all Hulkster where in the quote does it say Ronnie is harder & drier in 99 compared to 1998? it doesn't lol you moron

three quotes all say the same thing Ronnie was fuller in 99 but not as hard or as dry I hope this helps


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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39646 on: January 19, 2008, 11:27:21 AM »
thats only because you can't understand fucking english, moron.

 >:(

it says he displayed the size that he lacked the year before.

it says he displayed the condition 
 that he lacked the year before

it says he lacked the fullness he lacked the year before.

why can you not understand this?
 :-\



Dummy NO WHERE does it say he was harder or drier , stop typing

In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier

lmfao Ronnie lacked conditioning in 1998 and size the ONLY thing he lacked in 98 was the fullness

you're finished get over it

You're the ONLY idiot who is claiming Ronnie 99 is his best showing , Ronnie himself isn't even saying this lol Peter McGough , Shawn Perine , all say Ronnie's best showing is either 1998 & 2001 .

where is 1999? yeah I thought so.  ;)

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39647 on: January 19, 2008, 11:28:04 AM »
why do you not admit that Peter feels Ronnie was better in 99 than in 98?

after all, 99 is on his list.

98 isn't.

please explain that for all of us lol

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39648 on: January 19, 2008, 11:29:15 AM »
Dummy NO WHERE does it say he was harder or drier , stop typing

In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier

lmfao Ronnie lacked conditioning in 1998 and size the ONLY thing he lacked in 98 was the fullness

you're finished get over it

You're the ONLY idiot who is claiming Ronnie 99 is his best showing , Ronnie himself isn't even saying this lol Peter McGough , Shawn Perine , all say Ronnie's best showing is either 1998 & 2001 .

where is 1999? yeah I thought so.  ;)

lol stop typing? try start READING..

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You're the ONLY idiot who is claiming Ronnie 99 is his best showing

no, not in the least. check other boards retard.
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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39649 on: January 19, 2008, 11:33:44 AM »
NO you didn't you added what you think wins contests and shape give me a break Yates beat everyone and it wasn't because it was the most shapely

"no you didn't you added what you think wins contests" ::)

I used the same criteria from your post. Read it again, you dipshit.

here is what you listed:

Muscular bulk
Muscular density
Muscular balance
Conditioning

I used muscular bulk, balance, and conditioning. I didn't make a separate category for density b/c it's included in conditioning. I threw symmetry and shape in there b/c they are just as important as the rest. The quarter turns is sometimes referred to as the symmetry round for Christ's sake, and Bev Francis (IFBB Mr. Olympia judge) said she looks at muscular shape when evaluating competitors.

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I'm not on his nutts jackass did you see me post anywhere Dorian was the greatest bodybuilder ever? NOPE  and spare me the tired argument ad populum I don't care what you and the rest of the nutt huggers claim and see

you are on Dorian's nuts b/c you ignore his flaws while trying to add greater importance to his strengths. The only areas Dorian had over Ronnie were forearms and calves. You claim these muscles are visible in every pose and a bodybuilder cannot be complete without them. However, you conveniently ignore the fact that Ronnie has better arms, delts, pecs, glutes, quads, hamstrings, a narrower waist, and smaller joints. Case in point: you're the only idiot I've ever heard say something as absurd as "Dorian had better arms b/c of his forearms."