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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40250 on: February 15, 2008, 05:43:12 AM »
ha ha ha, oh boy! How am I unable to apply my own logic to judging physiques? I'd like to hear you explain that statement. Also, Ronnie's arms in 04 had amazing cuts. So I don't know wtf you are talking about "big arms with little cuts."

  Here is your argument in a nutshell:

  "I like the arms of bodybuilder A cut and small but the arms of bodybuilder B big and soft, so comparing the arms of bodybuilder A when they are at their smallest and cuttest to those of bodybuilder B when they are not at their biggest and softest is biased in favor of bodybuilder A."

  Yes, nice convoluted logic. I like it. You do not even apply the same criteria to determine what is "best" for the bodybuilders, so how can we get to any meaningful conclusion? By your logic, I meant that Ronnie's arms should be at their best when around 1998 Olympia according to the criteria you used to judge when was Dorian's arms were their best, since they were both at their smallest and cuttest there. Since you prefer cuts on one bodybuilder but size on the other, you have no standards and your point is mute. ;)

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nope. Ronnie's arms look like that in almost every pic.


  Except, of course, that they were far more defined at lighter bodyweights than at 290 lbs. Going by your logic, then Ronnie's arms were at their best in the time when Ronnie was an amateur, or, at best, at his first Olympia. ;)

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Dorian's arms in 93 had less peak, worse definition, and worse proportion between the biceps and triceps. That's my reasoning for why his arms looked better in the shot you posted. You're the moron who keeps insisting that size is everything - NOT me.

  Ronnie's arms at 290 lbs had less definition and worse proportion between biceps/triceps than they had in 1998 or from the time when he was an amateur, so what's your point? ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40251 on: February 15, 2008, 06:05:58 AM »
Here is your argument in a nutshell:

"I like the arms of bodybuilder A cut and small but the arms of bodybuilder B big and soft, so comparing the arms of bodybuilder A when they are at their smallest and cuttest to those of bodybuilder B when they are not at their biggest and softest is biased in favor of bodybuilder A."

The problem with your assessment is that Ronnie's arms in 04 were not soft. They were just as defined as 98. Bizzy even commented that Ronnie's left bicep appeared to have an extra split.

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Yes, nice convoluted logic. I like it. You do not even apply the same criteria to determine what is "best" for the bodybuilders, so how can we get to any meaningful conclusion? By your logic, I meant that Ronnie's arms should be at their best when around 1998 Olympia according to the criteria you used to judge when was Dorian's arms were their best, since they were both at their smallest and cuttest there. Since you prefer cuts on one bodybuilder but size on the other, you have no standards and your point is mute.

Dorian's arms in the shot you posted have better peak, definition, and proportion between the biceps and triceps. I've asked you to post a better pic of Dorian's arms from the back in 93. Since you have yet to do this, then you must agree that Dorian's arms looked better at a lighter bodyweight. :)
 

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Except, of course, that they were far more defined at lighter bodyweights than at 290 lbs. Going by your logic, then Ronnie's arms were at their best in the time when Ronnie was an amateur, or, at best, at his first Olympia.

???

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40252 on: February 15, 2008, 07:42:06 AM »
Dorian's arms looked like shit in 93 yet CigaretteMan thinks they look good.









little definition and non-existent biceps from the back, but hey... at least they're 0.5" bigger than in the pic below!!! So they must be better. ::)


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40253 on: February 15, 2008, 12:04:14 PM »
you guys are still going on and on about a small muscle called biceps. wtf!? there is alot more to the physique than the biceps. get off it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40254 on: February 15, 2008, 01:34:02 PM »
you guys are still going on and on about a small muscle called biceps. wtf!? there is alot more to the physique than the biceps. get off it.

no his whole arm looks shabby in the front double, back double, most muscular, side chest. the only pose they look ok in is the side tricep.

his arms where on a whole poor.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40255 on: February 15, 2008, 02:47:04 PM »
no his whole arm looks shabby in the front double, back double, most muscular, side chest. the only pose they look ok in is the side tricep.

his arms where on a whole poor.

It's quite funny, but it's the complete opposite for Ronnie.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40256 on: February 15, 2008, 08:55:43 PM »
Dorian's arms looked like shit in 93



good enough to kick the shit out of ronnie EVERY time they competed.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40257 on: February 15, 2008, 09:05:04 PM »
the bashing of bowflex continues.

probably the most thread ever for one member soley for bashing purposes.


hahaha.



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40258 on: February 15, 2008, 10:38:14 PM »
Yates was untouchable.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40259 on: February 15, 2008, 11:18:43 PM »
Yates > Coleman

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40260 on: February 15, 2008, 11:41:18 PM »
Team Yates is stronger than ever!!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40261 on: February 16, 2008, 03:29:49 AM »
Dorian's physique screams power.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40262 on: February 16, 2008, 03:54:19 AM »
Ronnie has NEVER had condition like this, Yates is as dry and peeled as most people sitting in coffins  :o Great haircut to boot!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40263 on: February 16, 2008, 08:33:18 AM »
good enough to kick the shit out of ronnie EVERY time they competed.

you still don't get it, do you? You can't isolate body parts and claim they don't matter on the basis of winning contests. That's like saying "conditioning doesn't matter b/c Andreas Munzer still lost" or "symmetry doesn't matter b/c Bob Paris still lost." You have to look at the total package. Ronnie was much lighter and less-refined when he lost to Dorian.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40264 on: February 16, 2008, 09:15:28 AM »
Team Yates is stronger than ever!!

ha ha ha, suuuure. That's why all the internet polls show Ronnie beating Dorian, more pro-Ronnie quotes have surfaced lately, Flex magazine just came out with a list of the all-time best backs with Ronnie #1, and the Dorian bashing is at an all-time high. Only in your delusional head is Team Yates stronger than ever.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40265 on: February 16, 2008, 09:18:58 AM »
ha ha ha, suuuure. That's why all the internet polls show Ronnie beating Dorian, more pro-Ronnie quotes have surfaced lately, Flex magazine just came out with a list of the all-time best backs with Ronnie #1, and the Dorian bashing is at an all-time high. Only in your delusional head is Team Yates stronger than ever.

They should start a team yates and others should start a team Coleman.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40266 on: February 16, 2008, 09:22:27 AM »
Ronnie has NEVER had condition like this, Yates is as dry and peeled as most people sitting in coffins Great haircut to boot!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40267 on: February 16, 2008, 09:46:06 AM »

good enough to kick the shit out of ronnie EVERY time they competed.




Epic reliance on contest politics for your assessments lol get some glasses.

I can see he's really kicking their ass here lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40268 on: February 16, 2008, 09:49:29 AM »
Ronnie has NEVER had condition like this, Yates is as dry and peeled as most people sitting in coffins  :o Great haircut to boot!


Yates' conditioning was great there, and i realize that's the only thing you as a groupie obsess on. Here's Coleman in equally great condition-with lots more as well including great arms and better tapers. ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40269 on: February 16, 2008, 11:15:05 AM »
you still don't get it, do you? You can't isolate body parts and claim they don't matter on the basis of winning contests. That's like saying "conditioning doesn't matter b/c Andreas Munzer still lost" or "symmetry doesn't matter b/c Bob Paris still lost." You have to look at the total package. Ronnie was much lighter and less-refined when he lost to Dorian.


that is my point exactly.

you guys keep talking about ronnie's arms and i'm saying that dorian's arms - the whole package - were good enough to beat ronnie EVERY time.

for instance, you dont mention the gyno, bad structure, horrible abs, etc. - all you do is point to the biceps.

thanks for clearing that up. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40270 on: February 16, 2008, 11:16:20 AM »

that is my point exactly.

you guys keep talking about ronnie's arms and i'm saying that dorian's arms - the whole package - were good enough to beat ronnie EVERY time.

 

U R completely gullible & reliant on Weider's contest politics.

Figure it out, albeit belatedly: this got perfect scores according to those shows lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40271 on: February 16, 2008, 11:19:07 AM »

Epic reliance on contest politics for your assessments lol get some glasses.

I can see he's really kicking their ass here lol



everyone can see he's kicking ass here - that's why he won.  

i think its you who needs the glasses to see that there is more than the shitty pics of a contest that you can find and the threads created for bashing you.





interesting how you keep talking about politics, yet have always failed to mention 2001.

there is not a more blatant display of politics than that year.

i guess if yates were black, you wouldnt mention 94 either.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40272 on: February 16, 2008, 11:27:35 AM »
that is my point exactly.

you guys keep talking about ronnie's arms and i'm saying that dorian's arms - the whole package - were good enough to beat ronnie EVERY time.

I was talking to CigaretteMan, you idiot. He claimed that Dorian's arms looked good in 93. Before you pretend you were addressing Hulkster and pumpster, don't forget you quoted my post.

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for instance, you dont mention the gyno, bad structure, horrible abs, etc. - all you do is point to the biceps.

Ronnie didn't have gyno in 03. I don't care about 98 b/c I don't think that was his best year. I don't understand how you can say Ronnie has a bad structure. He has narrower hips and smaller joints than Dorian. ???


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40273 on: February 16, 2008, 11:41:26 AM »

bad structure,

Did I just read this shyt? LOL. Get real buddy.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #40274 on: February 16, 2008, 11:42:46 AM »

everyone can see he's kicking ass here - that's why he won.  



He kicked ass in *some* shows, and got hammered in others - either rely on visuals or contest results, since they don't jive except to you.