Doctor, Why Do I Need This STATIN?

[IroNat]

No doubt this is the case for many people.

And of course big pharma has terrible influence and thrives off chronic disease and treatment.

But it's not the case for every individual.

Yes, there are unusual circumstances where a statin may be useful.

Not common though.  However, it is prescribed pervasively today by doctors.

The same as TRT which is only rarely necessary but is today widely used as a legal anabolic steroid.

Most people would rather take a drug than change their bad habits which lead to metabolic syndrome.

[kreator]

Why THE FUCK would you take a statin!? Do you understand the functions of cholesterol? If you take a statin, you're self harming on a deep level.

Just FYi cholesterol has nothing to do with heart disease.  It's a bullshit correlation.  Sugar and carbs should be correlated to heart disease.

DO. NOT. TAKE. STATINS. What the fuck. You're making yourself dumb and weak. Do your research. Deep research not funded by big pharma.

Exactly, if cholesterol was the culprit the walls of veins would also be prone to plaque build up but it only happens in arteries

[kreator]

Yes, there are unusual circumstances where a statin may be useful.

Not common though.  However, it is prescribed pervasively today by doctors.

The same as TRT which is only rarely necessary but is today widely used as a legal anabolic steroid.

Most people would rather take a drug than change their bad habits which lead to metabolic syndrome.

Statins can alleviate inflammation to some level since they're anti inflammatory but that's about it. It's a scam

[Donny]

No doubt this is the case for many people.

And of course big pharma has terrible influence and thrives off chronic disease and treatment.

But it's not the case for every individual.

exactly this. 

[Donny]

Yes, there are unusual circumstances where a statin may be useful.

Not common though.  However, it is prescribed pervasively today by doctors.

The same as TRT which is only rarely necessary but is today widely used as a legal anabolic steroid.

Most people would rather take a drug than change their bad habits which lead to metabolic syndrome.

OK apart from the internet where or who told you that they are only used for "unusual" circumstances.
I understand there´s a few people on here who rant on about drugs...etc but you do not know as you have never been in treatment for heart disease.
are you going to start ranting on now about cancer & the Pharama industry?

[Donny]

I´ll respect any man on here who has a serious illness & then gives me his opinions but otherwise i will not listen.
As i wrote before i´ve spoken to Doctors who i trust not some internet youtube shite.

People have to decide for themselves what they do but one thing i can say is due to my heart stents i am still here & my father lived longer due to medication.
I was told i was very, very lucky & believe me i have the utmost respect for the Doctors who saved my life.

Do i fear death not really but i now enjoy every day...when the Grim reaper comes it´s your time.
time waits for no man

[IroNat]

I´ll respect any man on here who has a serious illness & then gives me his opinions but otherwise i will not listen.
As i wrote before i´ve spoken to Doctors who i trust not some internet youtube shite.

People have to decide for themselves what they do but one thing i can say is due to my heart stents i am still here & my father lived longer due to medication.
I was told i was very, very lucky & believe me i have the utmost respect for the Doctors who saved my life.

Do i fear death not really but i now enjoy every day...when the Grim reaper comes it´s your time.
time waits for no man

Sorry about your clogged arteries but your stents have nothing to do with this discussion.

Stents are a mechanical solution to a problem decades in the making caused by inflammation.

Stents do not solve the cause.

Your lifelong health habits created your problems.

What lifestyle changes have you made beyond taking drugs to prevent the reclogging which the stents will not prevent?

[Grape Ape]

Your lifelong health habits created your problems.

It could also be genetic.

How else to you explain those who can go carnivore and have excellent bloodwork, or those whose LDL skyrockets, with most other factors - exercise, etc being equal.

[IroNat]

It could also be genetic.

How else to you explain those who can go carnivore and have excellent bloodwork, or those whose LDL skyrockets, with most other factors - exercise, etc being equal.

Could be genetic.  Could be lifelong consumption of inflammatory foods.

Could be a combination.

Inflammation is now being understood as the primary cause of plaque buildup.

Inflammation is caused by excess carb consumption and resulting insulin resistance.

LDL levels appear to have little relevance as a factor.

Look up "lean mass hyper-responders".

[Donny]

Sorry about your clogged arteries but your stents have nothing to do with this discussion.

Stents are a mechanical solution to a problem decades in the making caused by inflammation.

Stents do not solve the cause.

Your lifelong health habits created your problems.

What lifestyle changes have you made beyond taking drugs to prevent the reclogging which the stents will not prevent?

I thought you were a bit more intelligent..obviously I was wrong.

[GymnJuice]

The point of the video by Dr. Dhand is that making changes in lifestyle will elminate the need for statins and many other drugs that have negative side effects.

He believes such changes are not promoted due to the influence of Big Pharma.

You could promote lifestyle changes all you want. Make commercials, have your cardiologist talk to you about diet and exercise for 5 minutes each visit, hand out free gym memberships, but you cannot give certain people the willpower and motivation to eat a healthy diet and to get off their ass and move on a consistent basis.

I agree with you that diet and exercise, consistently over years and years, will do more for your health than most pills. I think people already know this and promoting it won't change their habits. That is not a problem the health care industry can solve.

[Grape Ape]

Inflammation is caused by excess carb consumption and resulting insulin resistance.

Not all carbs are inflammatory

[wes]

Why THE FUCK would you take a statin!? Do you understand the functions of cholesterol? If you take a statin, you're self harming on a deep level.

Just FYi cholesterol has nothing to do with heart disease.  It's a bullshit correlation.  Sugar and carbs should be correlated to heart disease.

DO. NOT. TAKE. STATINS. What the fuck. You're making yourself dumb and weak. Do your research. Deep research not funded by big pharma.

^^^^^^^THIS

[wes]

You could promote lifestyle changes all you want. Make commercials, have your cardiologist talk to you about diet and exercise for 5 minutes each visit, hand out free gym memberships, but you cannot give certain people the willpower and motivation to eat a healthy diet and to get off their ass and move on a consistent basis.

I agree with you that diet and exercise, consistently over years and years, will do more for your health than most pills. I think people already know this and promoting it won't change their habits. That is not a problem the health care industry can solve.

Good post and very true.

[IroNat]

I thought you were a bit more intelligent..obviously I was wrong.

Why didn't you answer my question?

What lifestyle changes have you made beyond taking drugs to prevent the reclogging which the stents will not prevent?

[IroNat]

You could promote lifestyle changes all you want. Make commercials, have your cardiologist talk to you about diet and exercise for 5 minutes each visit, hand out free gym memberships, but you cannot give certain people the willpower and motivation to eat a healthy diet and to get off their ass and move on a consistent basis.

I agree with you that diet and exercise, consistently over years and years, will do more for your health than most pills. I think people already know this and promoting it won't change their habits. That is not a problem the health care industry can solve.

Yes, this is true.

However, encouragement of eating garbage like the government funded school lunch program should be stopped.

Smoking ads are not allowed on TV.  If that makes sense then junk food ads should be banned too.

People should be forced to eat broccoli.

 

[Donny]

Why didn't you answer my question?

What lifestyle changes have you made beyond taking drugs to prevent the reclogging which the stents will not prevent?

What do you recommend the "steak & eggs diet? " 

Not all carbs are inflammatory

100% correct

[deadz]

I´ll respect any man on here who has a serious illness & then gives me his opinions but otherwise i will not listen.
As i wrote before i´ve spoken to Doctors who i trust not some internet youtube shite.

People have to decide for themselves what they do but one thing i can say is due to my heart stents i am still here & my father lived longer due to medication.
I was told i was very, very lucky & believe me i have the utmost respect for the Doctors who saved my life.

Do i fear death not really but i now enjoy every day...when the Grim reaper comes it´s your time.
time waits for no man

A "competitor" and you have no idea how to eat to be healthy, that's why you are where you are. Enjoy your statins and hope you don't get dementia or any of the many associated sides. I assume you're the type that consumed mass amount of drugs, ate crap and now you're surprised to be where you are. People like you should just go away.

[IroNat]

What do you recommend the "steak & eggs diet? " 
100% correct

Donny, you still didn't answer the question. 

[Grape Ape]

A "competitor" and you have no idea how to eat to be healthy, that's why you are where you are. Enjoy your statins and hope you don't get dementia or any of the many associated sides. I assume you're the type that consumed mass amount of drugs, ate crap and now you're surprised to be where you are. People like you should just go away.

Donny was military.

[Donny]

A "competitor" and you have no idea how to eat to be healthy, that's why you are where you are. Enjoy your statins and hope you don't get dementia or any of the many associated sides. I assume you're the type that consumed mass amount of drugs, ate crap and now you're surprised to be where you are. People like you should just go away.

I've never used any steroids so wind it in pal.
Obviously you didn't read the link I sent.
I'll listen to my cardiologist first before a cretin on the Internet

[Donny]

It could also be genetic.

How else to you explain those who can go carnivore and have excellent bloodwork, or those whose LDL skyrockets, with most other factors - exercise, etc being equal.

You're wasting your time Grape..he knows better.
Even top athletes can have a heart attack & it's had nothing to do with a life long of abuse or drug taking.
Genetics are definitely a factor.
https://www.modernheartandvascular.com/are-you-too-healthy-and-fit-to-worry-about-heart-disease/

Exactly what happened to me & in the same area

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[Humble Narcissist]

Donny, you still didn't answer the question. 

I think that's the answer.

[Donny]

I think that's the answer.

Please don't...he'll rant on about sandbags 

[Humble Narcissist]

Please don't...he'll rant on about sandbags 

Sandbags?