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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2025, 04:04:33 AM »
There are a lot of differing ideas. Many carnivores also think vegetables are evil, outright toxins. I just look at zero carbers and to me they don't necessarily look very youthful. Much better than strict vegans though. I've eaten extremely unhealthy with extreme amounts of sugar in my life, plus cycling high insulin too. it's a miracle I don't have diabetes. Maybe genes is the #1 factor in longevity, not saying choices don't matter. A "clean" bodybuilding diet should be bad for longevity too because on paper stimulating mTor and IGF-1 constantly (through high protein primarily, but through high calories and carbs as well) should lower life expectancy.

Apart from diet I think stress and sleep are big factors wrt health. Getting too obsessed with diet will probably hurt you through stress :D

WRT gut microbiome, what do you think about pre- and pro-biotics? I have taken antibiotics recently and I thought about perhaps supplementing with bacteria products like VSL 3 but many scientists seem to be skeptical of them. I'm just drinking some Kefir daily.

Yes to all this. A pure bodybuilding diet, according to all the research currently available, isn't necessarily the healthiest way to age.

I've also been reading a bit of research suggesting there's very little benefit to be had by taking probiotic supplements and that pre-biotic foods are probably a lot better. So things like the kefir you're taking, fermented stuff - that seems to have an impact. The studies i've read haven't found much change in the microbiome after taking probiotic supplements but I'd need to go back and have a look at specifically what strains were in the supps because there are so many and they all supposedly do different things. And it's the variety of microbiota that is important, not necessarily the amount - so it's possible supplementing with one main strain wouldn't have shown much.

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2025, 04:39:18 AM »
Found this quality sugar supplement at my local Walmart.

Just a good as Weider Crash Weight Gain sugar.

Bought 10 of them.

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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2025, 04:52:03 AM »
Yes to all this. A pure bodybuilding diet, according to all the research currently available, isn't necessarily the healthiest way to age.

I've also been reading a bit of research suggesting there's very little benefit to be had by taking probiotic supplements and that pre-biotic foods are probably a lot better. So things like the kefir you're taking, fermented stuff - that seems to have an impact. The studies i've read haven't found much change in the microbiome after taking probiotic supplements but I'd need to go back and have a look at specifically what strains were in the supps because there are so many and they all supposedly do different things. And it's the variety of microbiota that is important, not necessarily the amount - so it's possible supplementing with one main strain wouldn't have shown much.

Yeah I read that some study didn't find any of the supplemented bacteria in the feces, don't know specifically which one it was. Some doctor said, "for all I know, might just be pixie dust in there."

The VSL 3 I mentioned, the strongest one requires a prescription I think, so there could be sides.

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2025, 04:54:36 AM »
Where can I buy a top quality sugar supplement?

Coca Cola enthusiasts say Mexican Coke is superior because it contains cane sugar, but this was taste-wise :D

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2025, 04:58:45 AM »
Coca Cola enthusiasts say Mexican Coke is superior because it contains cane sugar, but this was taste-wise :D

I heard cane sugar is more anabolic than other types.

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2025, 06:19:58 AM »
I heard cane sugar is more anabolic than other types.

Milk is the most anabolic food on earth. It's the lactose sugar (partly) :D

"There is substantial epidemiological evidence that milk consumption efficiently elevates IGF-1 plasma levels by 20 to 30% in comparison to non-dairy consumers "

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2025, 09:22:14 AM »
uncle wes i am not a diet genius by no means but correct me if i am wrong , eating to much sugar spikes your insulin which can lead to diabetes
Yes,the above quote that I posted was stated by Brian Hankins,not me.

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2025, 09:50:55 PM »
diet seems to be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, there are people who just eat french fries three times a day and fuck all else who are in reasonably good health

I think stress is by far the biggest killer. Stress, anxiety, anger - all cause massive inflammation. I work hard to not let shit stress me.
My advice - not that anyone should take advice from me - if you don’t live near the woods or swamp - MOVE !! Live in a place where you can fish and kill animals for food. Have weaponry and ammunition- a well and solar power. (My compound is not complete yet but we will get there)

If we could get back to a place where men controlled shit like early America - where you could shoot problem people in the face until they were dead. Where sissy ass leftist men had the righteous fear of being fckd up for pushing weak policies.

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2025, 12:28:59 AM »
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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2025, 09:12:26 AM »
here is the thing and any of my jacked get big bros can chime in.  these guys promoting the sugar diet , are content creators and snake oil salesmen, they need to come up with something new to keep people buying there products,  mark bell is a prime example his videos go not get many views anymore  he has preached and practiced keto and carnivore for many years this is the diet that got him lean . now out of nowhere he is promoting the sugar diet.  mind you he sells carnivore supplements .   

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« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2025, 12:01:51 PM »
here is the thing and any of my jacked get big bros can chime in.  these guys promoting the sugar diet , are content creators and snake oil salesmen, they need to come up with something new to keep people buying there products,  mark bell is a prime example his videos go not get many views anymore  he has preached and practiced keto and carnivore for many years this is the diet that got him lean . now out of nowhere he is promoting the sugar diet.  mind you he sells carnivore supplements .
Absolutely agree. Him, Cole Robinson, and Durianrider’s channels were doing horribly. Look at them. You can tell they think this is their opportunity to finally master the algorithm and gain success and a following.

 Look how dumb they are frantically posting videos. Like rats on a sinking ship thinking they found a life boat.

Mark Bell with his ridiculous oversized headphones and violent sunglasses. What a joke. They talk and walk around like they’re the kings of the industry yet look at their sub count. Look how few comments they get. They have nothing to offer. So if Mark thinks this sugar crap is the way, the truth, the light…I guess he should stop selling his carnivore supps.

 Cole Robinson prescribed an elderly woman to drink gallons of pop to reverse her diabetes. Cole is an obese, double chinned, big gut, out of breath snake oil  salesman. Watch his McDonalds egg video or his breakfast video. He’s shaking and stuffing food in his mouth and can’t even speak coherently. Watch him get mocked and laughed at when he went on the Doctors show. Clips are on YouTube. He claimed he could melt away brain tumors with his sugar voodoo diet.

 Mark Bell looks like he’s 65 years old. His skin is wrinkled, his belly is protruding, and his muscle is wasting away. And he also can’t speak coherently or not make mistakes when trying to speak. His response to Andrew Hubbermans criticism of his diet was “fuck you.”

 And Durian Rider looks like an HIV+ junkie.

You can see they all act like they think this is their redemption and they’re opportunity to finally make it big. They are the true scum of the earth.
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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2025, 12:09:03 PM »
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he’s the true scum of the earth. Watch him get laughed at on The Doctors show. He claimed he could melt a brain tumor with sugar. He claims to cure diabetes by drinking pop. He posted a playground workout video. He was stumbling around, out of breath, huge fat gut protruding. He needs to go asap. No way in the world anyone is paying him for coaching. Fuck him.
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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2025, 03:01:44 PM »
Absolutely agree. Him, Cole Robinson, and Durianrider’s channels were doing horribly. Look at them. You can tell they think this is their opportunity to finally master the algorithm and gain success and a following.

 Look how dumb they are frantically posting videos. Like rats on a sinking ship thinking they found a life boat.

Mark Bell with his ridiculous oversized headphones and violent sunglasses. What a joke. They talk and walk around like they’re the kings of the industry yet look at their sub count. Look how few comments they get. They have nothing to offer. So if Mark thinks this sugar crap is the way, the truth, the light…I guess he should stop selling his carnivore supps.

 Cole Robinson prescribed an elderly woman to drink gallons of pop to reverse her diabetes. Cole is an obese, double chinned, big gut, out of breath snake oil  salesman. Watch his McDonalds egg video or his breakfast video. He’s shaking and stuffing food in his mouth and can’t even speak coherently. Watch him get mocked and laughed at when he went on the Doctors show. Clips are on YouTube. He claimed he could melt away brain tumors with his sugar voodoo diet.

 Mark Bell looks like he’s 65 years old. His skin is wrinkled, his belly is protruding, and his muscle is wasting away. And he also can’t speak coherently or not make mistakes when trying to speak. His response to Andrew Hubbermans criticism of his diet was “fuck you.”

 And Durian Rider looks like an HIV+ junkie.

You can see they all act like they think this is their redemption and they’re opportunity to finally make it big. They are the true scum of the earth.

great post natural wonder,  and that diet is insane i dont know about you but i could not imagine eating nothing but fruit and gummy bears every day, mark bell has defintely sunk off the deep end for sure. i remember on his podcast and his cohost would have these note pads out and acted like they where taking notes on what the guest was saying ha ha you know they threw that shit out or probably never even wrote anything.   

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2025, 03:03:09 PM »
All things in moderation might be a good motto.

Just visually the zero carb carnivore type diet doesn't seem to be the fountain of youth. Insulin isn't all bad, "sugar" isn't evil necessarily. But eating tons of sugar isn't a panacea either. But from what I've seen this isn't something they do every day.

van even though he has his haters on here mike mentzer said if you want to lose fat eat less calories with balanced food choices if you want to gain muscle increase your calories slowly so you dont turn into a hog in the off season.  simple but effective

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2025, 03:45:15 PM »
Milk is the most anabolic food on earth. It's the lactose sugar (partly) :D

"There is substantial epidemiological evidence that milk consumption efficiently elevates IGF-1 plasma levels by 20 to 30% in comparison to non-dairy consumers "


Is it because of the hormones pumped into cows?

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« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2025, 12:35:51 AM »
he’s the true scum of the earth. Watch him get laughed at on The Doctors show. He claimed he could melt a brain tumor with sugar. He claims to cure diabetes by drinking pop. He posted a playground workout video. He was stumbling around, out of breath, huge fat gut protruding. He needs to go asap. No way in the world anyone is paying him for coaching. Fuck him.
He completely abandoned his snake diet for which his channel is named. He's promoted a few other diets between the snake diet and this sugar diet. Seems to grab onto anything that's trending.

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2025, 04:31:50 AM »

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2025, 12:24:09 PM »
Not one of them has been able to tell me what impact this is having on their microbiome beyond one guy just saying 'it doesn't matter'.


Watch this if you want to know what happens to your microbiome when you stop the fiber (plants/sugar) and go carnivore

This will 100% answer your question directly.

Microbiome is as good as it can be when carnivore



Been carnivore for close to 2 years now. This is the way we are supposed to eat

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2025, 12:45:46 PM »
Watch this if you want to know what happens to your microbiome when you stop the fiber (plants/sugar) and go carnivore

This will 100% answer your question directly.

Microbiome is as good as it can be when carnivore



Been carnivore for close to 2 years now. This is the way we are supposed to eat
any issues with constipation? And do eat fruits or advocado? Or do you even crave stuff like pizza and pasta or rice?
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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2025, 01:15:22 PM »

Is it because of the hormones pumped into cows?

Not at all. It's mainly the protein, especially the BCAAs. But the carbs as well as the type of fat in milk also plays a part. There's no extra hormones in milk, and even if there was the digestive system would break up the super fragile peptide (amino acid chain) hormones. It's a persistent myth that added hormones do anything to human bodies, for example hormones in milk does not cause early puberty; it's a product of "overfeeding." They put trenbolone in livestock but I don't think anyone has tested positive for tren due to this practice, they are stopped early enough to disappear before slaughter.

Milk really is very anabolic, so much so that some claim it can cause cancer over the long term.

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2025, 01:31:11 PM »
any issues with constipation? And do eat fruits or advocado? Or do you even crave stuff like pizza and pasta or rice?

Perfect bowl movements. If you watch the video you will see that it is actually fiber/plants that cause constipation.


Are fruits and avocado plants? No plants on Carnivore, very simple


0 cravings, I no longer see plants as food. Sitting at a restaurant eating a steak while people around me eat dessert. The dessert looks as appetizing to be as does the napkin and candle on the table, its simply not food

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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2025, 02:28:32 PM »
I Tried a Better "SUGAR DIET" for 3 Days INSTANT RESULTS!


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Re: Sugar Fasting Sugar Diet Lunatics Trending?????
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2025, 07:58:40 PM »
Sugar diet is all over YouTube.

Marc Bell and Cole Robinson are screaming and rambling on about how it’s a miracle diet.

As the weeks go by it looks like Bell is wasting away his muscle…looks very sickly…seems to have trouble speaking coherently…and yet he can’t stop praising this diet.

Eating only candy, jars of jam, cans of pears in syrup… then guzzling pop, sprinkling sugar on fruit, sipping honey,  and sipping maple syrup.

I agree I saw the pics Marc has posted recently and he looks like he is 60 and dying. He is my age. I am way leaner and I am actually sick and dying. He does not look good.

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« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2025, 08:33:02 PM »
I agree I saw the pics Marc has posted recently and he looks like he is 60 and dying. He is my age. I am way leaner and I am actually sick and dying. He does not look good.

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