The truth about Africa

[Phantom Spunker]

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apparently I am a raghead according to donny- who looks like scotty off star trek meets alex ferguson.

I am just glad I am not scared of a race. I take each as I find.

no 'other race' has fucked up my country as bad as the idle wealthy aristocrats.

my mate used to protect the ships too from pirates- he said Congo was lawless but some of the countries were getting themselves together. but re somali pirates- they only exist because of a collapse of government and foreign fishing vessels putting them out of business leaving them with boats but nothing to fish. ironically they are trying to protect their country which is what the right wing here claim to be doing. at least they never ran off to live amongst the nazis. to think people fought in the war for people to roll over and go cap in hand to the jerries!

Yeah, the piracy really was a predictable outcome of a collapsed state and mass foreign exploitation of their waters. As initial ransoms were paid (and they were huge), and vessels start to take protective measures, the stakes were raised and everything became more violent. When you have extreme poverty, widespread corruption, a complete lack of international assistance and thousands of unemployed young men who have access to weapons, you get that.

A comparison of chinese culture and afrikaan culture doesn't diminish any truth he spoke about afrikaan culture.

How do you suppose you address the importation of "extreme" immigrants coming in from islamic countries vs the "good" immigrants?

It's the old "if you have a bowl of M&Ms and I tell you they are all poisoned except for a small few" how many are you going to eat? Probably none right? Not wanting to be associated with certain groups or types of people is not bad, it's self preservation. It's also not racist to point out these differences between groups of people, their morals and standards in different areas around the world.

How did this thread turn into 38returns challenging Donny to fisticuffs?

A comparison of chinese culture and afrikaan culture doesn't diminish any truth he spoke about afrikaan culture.

Of course. And we can go ahead and do that comparison, but we first need to specify which African culture we are referring to. I was simply making a factual point: it's a massive continent. And as the quotes should demonstrate, he wasn't even speaking any truth; it was just a short clip of a typically rude and annoying Chinese gimp clinging to a deluded sense of superiority while ranting about some lazy unskilled laborers from a post-colonial developing country. This clip should not lead to Donny or others coming to any conclusions about Africa as a whole – that's all I said.

How do you suppose you address the importation of "extreme" immigrants coming in from islamic countries vs the "good" immigrants?

It's the old "if you have a bowl of M&Ms and I tell you they are all poisoned except for a small few" how many are you going to eat? Probably none right? Not wanting to be associated with certain groups or types of people is not bad, it's self preservation. It's also not racist to point out these differences between groups of people, their morals and standards in different areas around the world.

This is a different matter and obviously a very complex issue. I'm hesitant to write pages of my usual ramblings and bore everyone, but I hope it is obvious that I'm not some mass-immigration supporting cultural relativist with a Panglossian belief in the 'inherent goodness' of man. I fucking hate everyone – I hate our entire species – but truth matters to me, and attempting to be intellectually honest matters to me, so I won't just go along with regurgitating fictions because they sound good.

To be brief, I think genetic differences between humans are really quite superficial, so all that matters are our ethical standards, and it is vital that we condemn certain political/religious groups and behaviors. How we balance that in a modern, globalized world is tricky, and with regards to migration I'll just say that we obviously need to distinguish between legal and illegal migration, and we also need to be cognizant of the fact that people are tribal in nature, so bringing in large groups from very different cultures and expecting that everyone will just assimilate and live happily within a generation or two is short-sighted and dangerous.

On that, though, I think that 38's points are also correct in that many people here in the UK now are just willingly swallowing far-right and Israeli bullshit without questioning it. The threats from certain groups are being exaggerated for political reasons, and it will ultimately only benefit a class who could not give a shit about working people.


How did this thread turn into 38returns challenging Donny to fisticuffs?

As for the first Getbig feud of 2026, you know what JackTheRipper Donny is like when he's had a few and is on a mission to provoke, haha. I'm a fan of both gents so I'm just happy to sit back and see if anyone will come to Celle and set it up. 

[chaos]

To be brief, I think genetic differences between humans are really quite superficial,

This is where we differ. I think it's naive to think our differences as humans across the world is this minute that they can be called superficial.

[joswift]

This is where we differ. I think it's naive to think our differences as humans across the world is this minute that they can be called superficial.

Go ask AI about difference between races, it will tell you we are all the same and race is a social construct

AI is a far left propaganda tool

[robcguns]

This is where we differ. I think it's naive to think our differences as humans across the world is this minute that they can be called superficial.

Yeah imo the differences are as great as night and day.

[illuminati]

This is where we differ. I think it's naive to think our differences as humans across the world is this minute that they can be called superficial.

Completely agree - trying to compare the average Black with a
Japanese / Chinese / white European etc is just ridiculous
we only have to observe them in large groups & their very differing
behaviours.

Let alone the development of Africa compared to those countries
or most of the rest of the world.

oh yes Blacks throughout history have been world leaders in
mud huts & grass skirts.
Kind of very similar to American Indians / Aborigines None of
Them known for world exploration / technologies / advanced
civilisations, architecture etcetera.

what major advancements & invention have they come up with
through the millennia. Not a Lot.

That isn't to say there are NO decent or intelligent folk in any
of those races - of course there is.

Sometime Truth & Facts are hard to Stomach & accept for some folk
yet the evidence is all around throughout history.

[robcguns]

Completely agree - trying to compare the average Black with a
Japanese / Chinese / white European etc is just ridiculous
we only have to observe them in large groups & their very differing
behaviours.

Let alone the development of Africa compared to those countries
or most of the rest of the world.

oh yes Blacks throughout history have been world leaders in
mud huts & grass skirts.
Kind of very similar to American Indians / Aborigines None of
Them known for world exploration / technologies / advanced
civilisations, architecture etcetera.

what major advancements & invention have they come up with
through the millennia. Not a Lot.

That isn't to say there are NO decent or intelligent folk in any
of those races - of course there is.

Sometime Truth & Facts are hard to Stomach & accept for some folk
yet the evidence is all around throughout history.

What he said.

[Van_Bilderass]

what race, if any, would you rather be if you could choose?

Doesn't matter, they are all the same! Seriously though, wanting be another race would probably be pathological. I haven't ever even thought about being something else because it wouldn't be me anymore

I find it hard to believe that in 2026 everyone isn’t racist with the more we see these people do everyday.

It's only whites who aren't racist, at least many whites, plus it's probably what they tell themselves rather than actually being so color blind in reality (see where they want to live for example). It actually probably has to do with white genes like every trait, I've seen arguments to that effect by people who are into 'biodiversity.' There's a term related to this, 'pathological altruism.' Whites have done a lot of nasty things but seem to really try right some historical wrongs. Other races and groups aren't disowning their own race or tribe and feeling guilty constantly and paying reparations in various forms.

I read some 'white advocate' commenters so to speak. It's not necessarily about supremacism to advocate for your own kind, otherwise the white advocates and believers in biodiversity would want to be Asians or Jews or even Black or whoever was superior as a group at something they valued.

Like one commenter said:

Thus, when I see members of groups with different identities and interests, I am wary. This is not because they are “guilty” of something. It is just because of who they are. My wariness is not a “punishment” for a crime. Guilt and innocence, crime and punishment, love and hate don’t come into this. For instance, I am wary of blacks for the same reason I am wary of pitbulls: they are a dangerous breed, nothing more. There’s no need to make this into some sort of moral drama.

The same is true of immigration policies. I don’t want closed borders and remigration simply because some non-white immigrants are criminal but because even the best non-white immigrants don’t belong in white societies. They aren’t “guilty” of anything. They are just incompatible, but that’s enough. Keeping them out or sending them back is not “punishing” them. Nor is it anything personal, like “hatred.”

Yes, hate is bad if it is totally baseless. This is why anti-racists like to talk about “hating strangers merely for the color of their skin.” It seems crazy to have deep personal feelings of antipathy (“hate”) for complete strangers based on superficial traits. But it is not “hate” when, for instance, a young white woman decides to avoid black or Muslim men because they belong to a rape-prone population.

I haven't travelled like Phantom Spunker and he feels differences are mostly superficial but I have a hard time with this. It's not like I live in some isolated white enclave, I live among Somalis and Arabs and every other type of immigrant. I get on the bus or tram I struggle to see white faces and it does feels alienating and depressing and I'm not alone in feeling that as a "white" person.

I have to say that in saying all this I certainly don't feel superior, everything is in the toilet personally, like you said, life is pain and misery

[Royalty]

Doesn't matter, they are all the same! Seriously though, wanting be another race would probably be pathological. I haven't ever even thought about being something else because it wouldn't be me anymore

It's only whites who aren't racist, at least many whites, plus it's probably what they tell themselves rather than actually being so color blind in reality (see where they want to live for example). It actually probably has to do with white genes like every trait, I've seen arguments to that effect by people who are into 'biodiversity.' There's a term related to this, 'pathological altruism.' Whites have done a lot of nasty things but seem to really try right some historical wrongs. Other races and groups aren't disowning their own race or tribe and feeling guilty constantly and paying reparations in various forms.

I read some 'white advocate' commenters so to speak. It's not necessarily about supremacism to advocate for your own kind, otherwise the white advocates and believers in biodiversity would want to be Asians or Jews or even Black or whoever was superior as a group at something they valued.

Like one commenter said:

I haven't travelled like Phantom Spunker and he feels differences are mostly superficial but I have a hard time with this. It's not like I live in some isolated white enclave, I live among Somalis and Arabs and every other type of immigrant. I get on the bus or tram I struggle to see white faces and it does feels alienating and depressing and I'm not alone in feeling that as a "white" person.

I have to say that in saying all this I certainly don't feel superior, everything is in the toilet personally, like you said, life is pain and misery

FYI: Under his other accounts, Phantom Spunker has complained about black people.

[Kwon]

what race, if any, would you rather be if you could choose?

Only thing i want, is to be able to live in harmony with Robcguns, Van_Bilderass, joswift, Donny, Soul Crusher and IronMeister.

If that means a society without blacks, so be it.

[joswift]

Doesn't matter, they are all the same! Seriously though, wanting be another race would probably be pathological. I haven't ever even thought about being something else because it wouldn't be me anymore

so by definition we all think the race we are is superior to the others or we would choose to be something else.
Thats racism 101

It would still be you but in a different body

[Phantom Spunker]

This is where we differ. I think it's naive to think our differences as humans across the world is this minute that they can be called superficial.

I know what you mean, but this is where I try to be very precise as it gets into complex scientific fields, and I am not qualified to speak authoritatively on them.

For instance, I obviously don't deny that there are differences. Tibetans have unique genes for high-altitude living. Inuits have adapted to cold and fatty diets. There are population-level statistical differences in traits such as sprinting that track ancestry. These traits are described by experts as highly localized and they developed under specific, intense selection pressures. And in the case of sprinting, I believe environment still plays a role to some extent. When I say 'superficial' I am only meaning that they are regarded as local and non-generalising, and experts would argue that they do not justify claims of deep biological divergence between human populations.

Similarly, with regard to what I referenced earlier in this thread about IQ: there are notable group differences in IQ test scores, and if it turns out that those differences are genetically determined, fine. However, from my understanding, that is not something that we can claim based on current evidence, as the differences appear to more closely track environmental factors (nutrition, education, stress, exposure to toxins, etc.). This is evidenced by the Flynn Effect, which shows massive increases in IQ scores over just decades in countries with improving education and health. Intelligence is heritable and affected by genes, but also massively shaped by environment.

The point I was trying to make earlier is that there are significant differences in moral norms and cultural practices (as opposed to biology) around the world, and that I believe in defending secular, enlightenment values as opposed to embracing beliefs that stand in opposition to that.

FYI: Under his other accounts, Phantom Spunker has complained about black people.

Hahaha. How dare you!!

[Van_Bilderass]

so by definition we all think the race we are is superior to the others or we would choose to be something else.
Thats racism 101

It would still be you but in a different body

Maybe it isn't about superiority but familiarity. We may not choose even our friends based on their superiority but because it just clicks and we have something in common perhaps. Different body is also a weird thing to contemplate even if it was 'better.' "You" in a black Mr O caliber body, sound like a good deal?

[joswift]

Maybe it isn't about superiority but familiarity. We may not choose even our friends based on their superiority but because it just clicks and we have something in common perhaps. Different body is also a weird thing to contemplate even if it was 'better.' "You" in a black Mr O caliber body, sound like a good deal?

and maybe it isnt...

[BlackMetallic]

Go ask AI about difference between races, it will tell you we are all the same and race is a social construct

AI is a far left propaganda tool

Until it comes to Dei, affirmative action, reparations

[chaos]

I know what you mean, but this is where I try to be very precise as it gets into complex scientific fields, and I am not qualified to speak authoritatively on them.

For instance, I obviously don't deny that there are differences. Tibetans have unique genes for high-altitude living. Inuits have adapted to cold and fatty diets. There are population-level statistical differences in traits such as sprinting that track ancestry. These traits are described by experts as highly localized and they developed under specific, intense selection pressures. And in the case of sprinting, I believe environment still plays a role to some extent. When I say 'superficial' I am only meaning that they are regarded as local and non-generalising, and experts would argue that they do not justify claims of deep biological divergence between human populations.

Similarly, with regard to what I referenced earlier in this thread about IQ: there are notable group differences in IQ test scores, and if it turns out that those differences are genetically determined, fine. However, from my understanding, that is not something that we can claim based on current evidence, as the differences appear to more closely track environmental factors (nutrition, education, stress, exposure to toxins, etc.). This is evidenced by the Flynn Effect, which shows massive increases in IQ scores over just decades in countries with improving education and health. Intelligence is heritable and affected by genes, but also massively shaped by environment.

The point I was trying to make earlier is that there are significant differences in moral norms and cultural practices (as opposed to biology) around the world, and that I believe in defending secular, enlightenment values as opposed to embracing beliefs that stand in opposition to that.



Hahaha. How dare you!!

I understand what you're saying and I believe we agree, I just put more stock in the differences than you do.
As far as IQ and genetics...

While it is widely acknowledged that genetics play a significant role in determining IQ, the extent of this influence is still a matter of ongoing research. Studies have shown that genes can account for approximately 50-80% of the variation in IQ scores among individuals. This suggests that genetic factors contribute significantly to one’s cognitive abilities and intellectual potential.

Some have suggested that IQ cannot be improved as life goes on, so at some point (when?) your IQ basically freezes. Weird.
Many cultural norms and practices are not compatible, can we agree on that? And at what point does importing conflicting cultural values impede the progression of a society?

[joswift]

Until it comes to Dei, affirmative action, reparations

yep.. woke destroys its own argument all the time

If race is a social construct and there is no such thing as race then we cant by definition be racist.

[Zillotch]

whites are the creative force on earth - because they r made in the image of God.

they were given the intellect.. given the gifts - given the very law of God written on their hearts.

white people had an obligation - they dropped the ball… satan picked it up, and then punted it into oblivion - resulting in this:

I believe in defending secular, enlightenment values as opposed to embracing beliefs that stand in opposition to that.

the mind of a reprobate, and the spirit of antichrist… that is what phantom fights for.. and he's going to win.

Why is this faggot always popping up to quote himself and rant about fire and brimstone?

because, homie - that is exactly the message that people need to hear.