2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[GymnJuice]

What do you think comes of the nuclear talks now in Switzerland, do we get them to acquiesce to our demands or do we get chumped?

We are negotiating from a position of weakness. We lack international backing, we failed to force a regime change, and our munitions are depleted. Frankly, we cannot enforce any agreement we sign. Our sole focus must be an uninterrupted exit. Preventing a nuclear buildup, missile strikes on Israel, or defunding Hezbollah should not be our responsibility. Let Iran's neighbors deal with it and the consequences.

[Van_Bilderass]

The US is running out of bombs, we have no bombs left to give.

There's the nuclear option

Iran only understands bombs.

If you mean instead accepting total capitulation and accepting their partner breaking all agreements then yes, America responding by killing them all would be the other option. I think it's really rich for some Americans to insinuate that since America signed a bad deal then America should resort to bombs. How about honoring commitments? It's also pathetic to insinuate Iran is unreasonable and can't be trusted bearing in mind everything that happened here. It's also interesting that just the other day Trump said the Iranians are very smart and great negotiators, the thing Trump sees himself as. He knows the Iranians aren't irrational and suicidal as many Americans see them as.

Trump is getting absolutely roasted by both sides of the isle so now he's immediately back to making murderous and genocidal threats to get back some of his lost credibilty as a tough man. The deal forbids threats. Trump even threatened Aragchi and Ghalibaf by saying they might not even get back to their country. That's ridiculous and not honorable but some peoplr don't care about such silly things. I fear if the war resumes because Trump fears looking weak (when in fact he's corageous) the nuclear option becomes more likely. Obviously the conventional means didn't work and the types of missiles used so far, like the Tomahawk, have almost ran out.

One thing that might force Trump to eat dirt for the time being is that the oil reserves have run out. If hostilities resume now the "bedlam" he talked about will become real. If the oil flows Iran is doing the US a favor. It's in Iran's favor too though, not denying that, but they have lots of hardliners who are opposed to this but the government is attempting anyway.

[Van_Bilderass]

The Israel agents like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro are fuming and are furious at Trump, albeit in a passive aggressive way, indirectly. Levin demands that this turning on Israel must stop! He also says if Iran had a nuke it would immediately fire it as us, "as sure as I'm alive." First of all Iran could have had a nuke a long time ago if it wanted to,  but it didn't. If Iran had wanted to destroy Israel in a suicidal act it could have done so in a couple of days with their conventional missiles. Imagine if it fired all of their arsenal at Israel all at once. Ghalibaf also said that Iran already has a nuke, it's called the Strait of Hormuz, no need for a real one. A much preferable option and not suicidal. Iranians are to a large extent business men or it wouldn't engage in these negotiations at all. It's the US that has acted irrationally by starting all this.

[Grape Ape]

There's the nuclear option

If you mean instead accepting total capitulation and accepting their partner breaking all agreements then yes, America responding by killing them all would be the other option. I think it's really rich for some Americans to insinuate that since America signed a bad deal then America should resort to bombs. How about honoring commitments? It's also pathetic to insinuate Iran is unreasonable and can't be trusted bearing in mind everything that happened here. It's also interesting that just the other day Trump said the Iranians are very smart and great negotiators, the thing Trump sees himself as. He knows the Iranians aren't irrational and suicidal as many Americans see them as.

Trump is getting absolutely roasted by both sides of the isle so now he's immediately back to making murderous and genocidal threats to get back some of his lost credibilty as a tough man. The deal forbids threats. Trump even threatened Aragchi and Ghalibaf by saying they might not even get back to their country. That's ridiculous and not honorable but some peoplr don't care about such silly things. I fear if the war resumes because Trump fears looking weak (when in fact he's corageous) the nuclear option becomes more likely. Obviously the conventional means didn't work and the types of missiles used so far, like the Tomahawk, have almost ran out.

One thing that might force Trump to eat dirt for the time being is that the oil reserves have run out. If hostilities resume now the "bedlam" he talked about will become real. If the oil flows Iran is doing the US a favor. It's in Iran's favor too though, not denying that, but they have lots of hardliners who are opposed to this but the government is attempting anyway.

Hey dude - until Iran gets a new government - fuck them.

[B_B_C]

[Van_Bilderass]

Hey dude - until Iran gets a new government - fuck them.

I wouldn't prefer to live under Islamist rule either. But I kind of feel their way of life and religion is up to the Iranians. A while back Trump held a speech in Saudi, probably written by Vance, saying the US will stop telling ME countries how to live and govern, they can decide as thhey themselves know best. These other coubtries like Saudi that the US has an economically beneficial relatiobship with are Islamist too and execute and torture protesters and regime critics. Not a peep from supposedly principled anti-Islamists. Furthermore Iran has other good qualities, it can keep this oppressive Zionism in check. Who wants Jewish world government, is that the ideal?

BTW if the US and Israel managed regime change in Iran and to put in a Zionist government, nothing stops there. Israel is eyeing Turkey and Egypt and Pakistan next. Where does it end? Should the US go to war with Turkey next like Israel wants? Can't have Israel fight its own wars!

[oldschoolfan]

My rep is on there. I vote against him every time in the primaries, but it’s never close. The district is deep red and the old boomers see his prosthetic legs think he’s a true patriot. He’s the Dan Crenshaw of FL. He literally wore an IDF uniform at Capitol Hill and has accepted $779+K in donations tied to Israel. Bizarre and treasonous behavior.

damm rambo he reminds me of a  weird and certain delta force commando on this forum !

[oldschoolfan]

uncle donald and his fake hair gel  boy hesgerth has allready cost us a half trillion and counting for this goofy war   they backed out of , but hey america first !!