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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2006, 03:11:16 PM »
Okay this is comming from the kid who said Matt Mendenhall was blocky  ::) and Dorian's conditioning was a myth  lol

I backed up my statements with proof.

You back up yours by ignoring posts and saying "blah blah" and "yawn" :P
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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2006, 03:19:59 PM »
I backed up my statements with proof.

You back up yours by ignoring posts and saying "blah blah" and "yawn" :P

Oh please you've yet to ' prove ' Mendenhall was blocky , and Yates conditioning how again did you ' prove ' that? yeah I thought so.  ;)

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2006, 03:35:01 PM »
Mendenhall was never blocky...sorry Hulkster.  He would have been the epitome of bodybuilding if he would have kept at it and came in diced.  The man had probably the top five or six genetics of all time along with Dennis Newman, Ronnie, Arnold, Sergio and maybe Labrada.  I think the Heath kid has loads of potential as does Richard Jones if he ever gets some sticks.

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2006, 06:32:07 AM »
Okay this is comming from the kid who said Matt Mendenhall was blocky  ::) and Dorian's conditioning was a myth  lol

You see Hulkster you really don't have much idea about bodybuilding, you just see a big guy and lose control of yourself.  The criticisms we make of Ronnie go way over your head.  You are unable to comprehend the finer points. 

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2006, 06:33:22 AM »
I backed up my statements with proof.

You back up yours by ignoring posts and saying "blah blah" and "yawn" :P

LOL @ "proof".  You're losing it big time son.

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2006, 06:38:09 AM »

Ronnie was a whole lot more than just a "big guy". You are just too blind to see it. ::)
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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2006, 08:50:01 AM »
Anal, you apparently don't understand the criticisms made about Yates.  He was awesome in 1993; probably top five physiques ever after Haney, Ronnie, Arnold and Oliva.  However, after 1994, Yates was a shell of his former self.  If Levrone ever worked hard enough to get a back and Dillett trained even a bit; Yates would have been dethroned quite easily.  His conditioning, while usually good...cough 1994, 1997...cough...could not hide his pathetic symmetry and lack of vascularity or stirations.  His density is well known and never was questioned; it was the lack of a flowing package that looked like a Mr. Olympia that was the problem.  I agree, right now, Ronnie looks nothing like a Mr. Olympia.  He better bring it in the next few months or Gutler or Jackson will be the new champ assuming the compettion is judged fairly.  Obviously, that is not always the case as can be seen in Haney 1989, Yates 1994/1997 (even 1996 is debateable), and Ronnie 2001/2002.  Regardless, I enjoy your comments as they have biting wit about them.

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2006, 09:24:17 AM »

Ronnie was a whole lot more than just a "big guy". You are just too blind to see it. ::)

That physique is just friggin insane!


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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2006, 03:29:32 PM »
yes cause no one else has matched that shape mass and condition. same with dorian if he would have kept his 93 body during his riegn no one would have beat him or been close

Last I checked---no one ever did beat Dorian during his reign..

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2006, 11:04:02 PM »
That physique is just friggin insane!



yup. Better than Dorian's, even in 1993 :-*
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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #60 on: June 18, 2006, 03:05:38 AM »
yup. Better than Dorian's, even in 1993 :-*

This man needs sedation.  Call the medics.  Flex should have beaten Ronnie in 98.

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #61 on: June 18, 2006, 04:22:25 AM »
No no... Flex dont have striated ass.

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #62 on: June 18, 2006, 06:40:05 AM »
No no... Flex dont have striated ass.
Do you ?

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #63 on: June 18, 2006, 06:52:24 AM »
This man needs sedation.  Call the medics.  Flex should have beaten Ronnie in 98.

really?


you honestly think Flex should have won? Flex was narrow, and puffy and watery compared to Ronnie that night. Look at the pics. He was not as detailed as Ronnie... Oh, thats right- you love dorian.. ::)

Look how oily flex's arm is..

only a fool would say Ronnie deserved to lose in 1998. The contest was than just hams and glutes - it was also about width and lack of oil and water -two things Flex had a lot of in 1998..


great lat spread.. ::)

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #64 on: June 18, 2006, 07:22:19 AM »
Truth is though that Yates was never beaten BUT that 2002 GNC was a bunch of shit feeding the Gunter hype machine.  2001 Arnold Ronnie Coleman was the best I personally have seen.  Sounds like Im jumpin the bandwagon but he looked incredible
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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #65 on: June 18, 2006, 07:25:27 AM »
I've watched all the gaddamm olympias in the past 10 years. No doubt in my mind the 98 Ronnie is the closest thing we'd have to perfection.

Well okay shawn ray was near damn perfection all his career, but for some reason his physique is kinda boring to watch on stage. The 98 Ronnie was a freak, with size, shape, INSANE TAPER.

Gunter has the taper of a refrigerator. Gimme a fukiin break.

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #66 on: June 18, 2006, 07:39:35 AM »


Ronnie was a god in 2001..
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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #67 on: June 18, 2006, 09:30:41 AM »
If Ronnie was a God in 2001 it looks like he was 6 months pregnant with Jesus  ;)

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #68 on: June 18, 2006, 02:25:34 PM »
If Ronnie was a God in 2001 it looks like he was 6 months pregnant with Jesus  ;)
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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #69 on: June 18, 2006, 04:16:30 PM »
Say what ND?  ;)


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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #70 on: June 18, 2006, 04:50:02 PM »
This man needs sedation.  Call the medics.  Flex should have beaten Ronnie in 98.

Ronnie won it period.

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #71 on: June 18, 2006, 05:03:17 PM »

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #72 on: June 18, 2006, 05:04:41 PM »
Ronnie won it period.

Ronnie just barely won it ...............3 points , he was very lucky the judges didn't go with Flex based on his name .

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #73 on: June 18, 2006, 05:17:27 PM »
See ND, that is what is dismaying about you.  You always defer to the judges.  Why don't you openly admit Yates weakness and horrible condition in 1994/1997 and even 1996.  The man won based on his name.  Same with Ronnie in 2001/2002.  Thus, why can't you give Ronnie a break when he was in shape at the 2001 ASC for all things.  Some people think that was the best anyone has ever looked on stage.  Yates could only compete, not defeat, that shape in 1993.  Yates in 1992 would have gotten beaten by Haney if he bothered to compete.  Yates probably should have lost in 1994/1997 based on conditioning alone.  IFBB judging is known to be suspect.  Sometimes, it takes a year or more for a very superior bb like Branch to make his impact.  The man didn't get his due until a year or so into his career.  He deserved second at the Arnold, although Dex beat him fairly soundly.  BTW, who the hell cares if Dorian or Ronnie have a GH belly in non-posing pics.  You are getting old posting these non-competition photos that have nothing to do with the mandatory poses.

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Re: Could the 98 Ronnie Physique still be winning the Olympia?
« Reply #74 on: June 18, 2006, 05:28:57 PM »
See ND, that is what is dismaying about you.  You always defer to the judges.  Why don't you openly admit Yates weakness and horrible condition in 1994/1997 and even 1996.  The man won based on his name.  Same with Ronnie in 2001/2002.  Thus, why can't you give Ronnie a break when he was in shape at the 2001 ASC for all things.  Some people think that was the best anyone has ever looked on stage.  Yates could only compete, not defeat, that shape in 1993.  Yates in 1992 would have gotten beaten by Haney if he bothered to compete.  Yates probably should have lost in 1994/1997 based on conditioning alone.  IFBB judging is known to be suspect.  Sometimes, it takes a year or more for a very superior bb like Branch to make his impact.  The man didn't get his due until a year or so into his career.  He deserved second at the Arnold, although Dex beat him fairly soundly.  BTW, who the hell cares if Dorian or Ronnie have a GH belly in non-posing pics.  You are getting old posting these non-competition photos that have nothing to do with the mandatory poses.

You have to keep track of what I type a little better , I didn say Dorian should have lost in 1997 thats my personal feelings obviouslt the judges didn't feel that way , I felt Dorian was absolutely good enough to win in 1994 and I stand by that , the contorvesy at the 1994 Mr Olympia was between 2nd and 3rd place not first

And I care that athletes have GH guts I think its a complete joke and should be automatic failure , and all the gut pics I post are both onstage & backstage and the guts are clearly evident onstage durring transitions this isn't bodybuilding its what bodybuilding has become , 2001 ASC Ronnie looked amazing dispite the distended gut but a man weighing just 247lbs shouldn't have one , Haney didn't .