Vince Basile?

[The True Adonis]

so competing in a bb show is the measure of a man?  wow, i did not know that one

hahahhaa, I hope that is not what Arvilla considers the pinnacle of his life.

He is losing it lately.

[The True Adonis]

Adam, not for nothing but make that decision "after" you have competed.  How could you know what is or isn't hard about if you have never done it?

What is the hard part of it?

The work part,dieting and training is TOO EASY.  Posing takes practice I am sure, but is not exactly hard.

Tanning?  How hard is it to go outside or go lay in a bed?  Tell me when does it get hard?

[Laura Lee]

so competing in a bb show is the measure of a man?  wow, i did not know that one

And wood...he didn't say competing was a "measure" of a man.  What he is saying is that he was once like "Adonis" flapping his gums like he knew what he was talking about (regarding competing) and it wasn't until he prepped for the show and stood on stage that he gained the respect he should have for the bodybuilding sport (don't get technical with the sport/industry shit, you know what I mean).  I'm surprised that you (one who has competed before) couldn't read into that. 

[ieffinhatecardio]

Vince has done enough in his life to justify what he posts and for us to at least try and understand his point of view.

I don't quite understand the hate Mike is showing. What's the point?

The guy is old, so what, he's also got a ton of knowledge.

[tom joad]

What is the hard part of it?

The work part,dieting and training is TOO EASY.  Posing takes practice I am sure, but is not exactly hard.

Tanning?  How hard is it to go outside or go lay in a bed?  Tell me when does it get hard?

Didn't Mike have to drop like 85 lbs (of mostly fat)?  . . . that might've been the hard part.

[wood]

And wood...he didn't say competing was a "measure" of a man.  What he is saying is that he was once like "Adonis" flapping his gums like he knew what he was talking about (regarding competing) and it wasn't until he prepped for the show and stood on stage that he gained the respect he should have for the bodybuilding sport (don't get technical with the sport/industry shit, you know what I mean).  I'm surprised that you (one who has competed before) couldn't read into that. 

I read clearly into how he was hating on old Vince and his accomplishments while he, of all people, should know better.  Yeah, i give Mike props for going through contest prep, and no T.A. it's not as easy as you think.  Prepping all your own food, getting up at 4:45 AM for an hour of cardio and fighting cravings are a bitch.  The point i want to make here is this:

competing doesn't make you a man and it sure as hell doesn't make you any better than anyone else or trump their accomplishments.  it does show a strong self will and determination to finish the job though and it should be commended regardless of whether you competed in the golden age of BB or now.

[The True Adonis]

I read clearly into how he was hating on old Vince and his accomplishments while he, of all people, should know better.  Yeah, i give Mike props for going through contest prep, and no T.A. it's not as easy as you think.  Prepping all your own food, getting up at 4:45 AM for an hour of cardio and fighting cravings are a bitch.  The point i want to make here is this:

competing doesn't make you a man and it sure as hell doesn't make you any better than anyone else or trump their accomplishments.  it does show a strong self will and determination to finish the job though and it should be commended regardless of whether you competed in the golden age of BB or now.

I don`t have to do cardio Cravings aren`t difficult either if you eat good food though.  There is no reason to eat bland foods.  Virtually any gourmet cookbook will have something to eat.

Its easy, just have to be consistent.  That is all there is to it.  Consistency.  The difficulty of being consistent for me is non existant.

I have read tons of stories of people getting in great shape and not even tanning,stepping on a stage to win....

[Laura Lee]

What is the hard part of it?

The work part,dieting and training is TOO EASY.  Posing takes practice I am sure, but is not exactly hard.

Tanning?  How hard is it to go outside or go lay in a bed?  Tell me when does it get hard?

If it's so easy Adam, why haven't you done it?  You chose to enter an online photo contest over stepping on a real stage.  Why don't you take a poll and ask those who have stepped on a stage and ask them how much work is involved in preparing for a contest.  Better yet ask them how "easy" it was to prepare for such while maintaining a job, relationship and just everyday life.  Let me know what they say. 

[The True Adonis]

If it's so easy Adam, why haven't you done it?  You chose to enter an online photo contest over stepping on a real stage.  Why don't you take a poll and ask those who have stepped on a stage and ask them how much work is involved in preparing for a contest.  Better yet ask them how "easy" it was to prepare for such while maintaining a job, relationship and just everyday life.  Let me know what they say. 

Again,

Where is the difficulty in tanning and posing?

[wood]

I don`t have to do cardio Cravings aren`t difficult either if you eat good food though.  There is no reason to eat bland foods.  Virtually any gourmet cookbook will have something to eat.

Its easy, just have to be consistent.  That is all there is to it.  Consistency.  The difficulty of being consistent for me is non existant.

I have read tons of stories of people getting in great shape and not even tanning,stepping on a stage to win....

my food is usually not bland either and on high carb days i'm in heaven.  consistency is key but there are some ppl that just cant be that disciplined for that long.  it's easy for me now b/c i've dieted several times but it still sucks having to get up early and do cardio b/c i don't have the metabolism of a jackrabbit.  i never did, i was a fat ass in high school  you are lucky not to have to do cardio TA, that is for sure.  you also have your age on your side, your metabolism will slow with time, beware.

[Laura Lee]

I don`t have to do cardio Cravings aren`t difficult either if you eat good food though.  There is no reason to eat bland foods.  Virtually any gourmet cookbook will have something to eat.

Its easy, just have to be consistent.  That is all there is to it.  Consistency.  The difficulty of being consistent for me is non existant.

I have read tons of stories of people getting in great shape and not even tanning,stepping on a stage to win....

Again Adam, if it is so damn easy for you, why haven't you done it.  Why is it you never show us manditory poses, always the same left arm, side chest, with pants on pose.  You have been asked a million and one times to show different poses, those you would have to in order to be in a contest and you never do.  I will admit you have come a long way (physique wise) since you first started posting, but you act like you really believe you are an "Adonis". 






btw, Michael was "hating" on Vince because he thought he was a "gimmick" account.

[The True Adonis]

my food is usually not bland either and on high carb days i'm in heaven.  consistency is key but there are some ppl that just cant be that disciplined for that long.  it's easy for me now b/c i've dieted several times but it still sucks having to get up early and do cardio b/c i don't have the metabolism of a jackrabbit.  i never did, i was a fat ass in high school  you are lucky not to have to do cardio TA, that is for sure.  you also have your age on your side, your metabolism will slow with time, beware.

Theres ways to combat that even through diet, if you have the courage to lower the calories enough.  Contrary to what people think, it is REALLY hard to lose muscle even when dieting.  I have seen people say, "I over-dieted this year" only next year they eat more and still have the same result.  Muscle is not so easily lost at all.  If your metabolism slows down, just keep lowering the calories.  I would rather eat 1500-1800 calories and do no cardio. Then eat 2000-2700 and do cardio,(Which I have done in the past and gotten the same results).  

People complicate this whole process.

[wood]

If it's so easy Adam, why haven't you done it?  You chose to enter an online photo contest over stepping on a real stage.  Why don't you take a poll and ask those who have stepped on a stage and ask them how much work is involved in preparing for a contest.  Better yet ask them how "easy" it was to prepare for such while maintaining a job, relationship and just everyday life.  Let me know what they say. 

i approach it as if it were my job.  it does take a strain on your relationship with your spouse though, but it gets easier with each diet b/c you learn to make it less of a burden on everyone else and assume all responsibility.  it's funny when ppl pick on you for being OCD or anal retentive or whatever b/c you have to eat at a certain time...hahah  

Better to be laughed at while prepping than laughed at on stage.

[HERACLES]

If it's so easy Adam, why haven't you done it?  You chose to enter an online photo contest over stepping on a real stage.  Why don't you take a poll and ask those who have stepped on a stage and ask them how much work is involved in preparing for a contest.  Better yet ask them how "easy" it was to prepare for such while maintaining a job, relationship and just everyday life.  Let me know what they say. 

Yeah TA, I have to say, if its so easy why havent you done it? And there is a difference between people that comepted and people that havent..jus tthe fact, that one had the determination and discipline to do it.

My guess/hunch is that you must of experimented with some gear, leaving you stuck between a natural show and an open show.   JMHO.

[Laura Lee]

 it's funny when ppl pick on you for being OCD or anal retentive or whatever b/c you have to eat at a certain time...hahah  

THAT is sooooooooooo true  lmao   

[The True Adonis]

Again Adam, if it is so damn easy for you, why haven't you done it.  Why is it you never show us manditory poses, always the same left arm, side chest, with pants on pose.  You have been asked a million and one times to show different poses, those you would have to in order to be in a contest and you never do.  I will admit you have come a long way (physique wise) since you first started posting, but you act like you really believe you are an "Adonis". 






btw, Michael was "hating" on Vince because he thought he was a "gimmick" account.

Just because something is so easy, does not mean I have to throw myself into something....I am an expert in playing X-Box games hahahah but I don`t go entering in Gaming Tournaments.  Funny that there is more recognition and prizes in those competitions than in bodybuilding.  I have never lost a single fight in Fight Night,Round 2 or Round 3 even.  hahahahahahah

There are a lot of other examples I could use.  I had a fast Lotus Esprit with a chip and some other parts, but I didn`t feel the need to enter a street race where I would have easily won.

It all matters in what you want to do.

[The True Adonis]

Yeah TA, I have to say, if its so easy why havent you done it? And there is a difference between people that comepted and people that havent..jus tthe fact, that one had the determination and discipline to do it.

My guess/hunch is that you must of experimented with some gear, leaving you stuck between a natural show and an open show.   JMHO.

Who says you can`t be in the shape shape as the people who DO compete? There is no difference.

[wood]

THAT is sooooooooooo true  lmao   

i tell you what though, the next fuggin' retard that stops at my cube at 10 AM when i'm eating chicken/veggies or whatever and says, "Is that breakfast?" or "Every time I walk by you're eating"...

i'm gonna fuggin' punch'em in the throat...haha...jk.  i get questions weekly about my diet and i just want to say "you wouldn't do it, so why ya wanna know?"...i used to be a personal trainer and that was the worst part of it, giving nutritional counseling to people who weren't really going to follow it but didn't mind paying you to kick the crap out of them three times a week

[Laura Lee]

Just because something is so easy, does not mean I have to throw myself into something....I am an expert in playing X-Box games hahahah but I don`t go entering in Gaming Tournaments.  Funny that there is more recognition and prizes in those competitions than in bodybuilding.  I have never lost a single fight in Fight Night,Round 2 or Round 3 even.  hahahahahahah

There are a lot of other examples I could use.  I had a fast Lotus Esprit with a chip and some other parts, but I didn`t feel the need to enter a street race where I would have easily won.

It all matters in what you want to do.

You're thowing yourself into an "online" contest.  One that can be easily manipulated (and don't give me the crap about it being against the rules).  Like I said Adam, I truly have nothing against you but if you were that confident and it was that easy and you loved it (bodybuilding) as much as you claim...you would have done a show...just for yourself, not anyone else.  But instead, you choose to post how "easy" it is to do WITHOUT EVER HAVING DONE IT and IMO that is a huge insult to those who have worked hard (which IS how it IS) and competed.  Your friend wood included. 

[wood]

Who says you can`t be in the shape shape as the people who DO compete? There is no difference.

it's just armchair quarterbacking, that's all.  you have that right to make that choice.  you choose not to compete, your choice.  you may regret one day not seeing exactly how you could have done though.

[HERACLES]

Adam has a point though, I didnt read the start of this post, uhhg, Vince Basil was Mr Canada, in 1970...and hes accomplished alot...there is no reason for him to prove himself to anyone...ill just leave it at that..

[tom joad]

go do a show,compete.......learn what it is like to be a man

Cheri, are you still planning on doing a show?  if yes, do you think that the contest prep will make you learn what it's like to be a woman? (as per Mike's words)  

[Mr.Hutch]

What is the hard part of it?

The work part,dieting and training is TOO EASY.  Posing takes practice I am sure, but is not exactly hard.

Tanning?  How hard is it to go outside or go lay in a bed?  Tell me when does it get hard?

TA its all of those things put together that is hard...Then you add in a full time job and in my case a family and all the obligations that come with life..and doing all that for 3 months....Its hard...does it qualify you as man ummmm HELL NO...to me nobody is a man until they can keep a happy marriage and raise a family....

Oh and taking shots every fuckin day is hard too!!!! LOL...

[The True Adonis]

You're thowing yourself into an "online" contest.  One that can be easily manipulated (and don't give me the crap about it being against the rules).  Like I said Adam, I truly have nothing against you but if you were that confident and it was that easy and you loved it (bodybuilding) as much as you claim...you would have done a show...just for yourself, not anyone else.  But instead, you choose to post how "easy" it is to do WITHOUT EVER HAVING DONE IT and IMO that is a huge insult to those who have worked hard (which IS how it IS) and competed.  Your friend wood included. 

It IS EASY getting into contest Bodybuilding shape.  Isn`t that the work involved with Bodybuilding?

The rest is simple.  It is not an insult.  Jay Leno has by far the best Deusenburg collection in the world, yet he does not feel the need to enter his cars at the annual Deusenburg competiton. But I can assure you that his cars are top notch.

You see, the work is the part that needs to be done, the competiton is just a venue to show it.

So where is it difficult?

[tom joad]

So where is it difficult?

for a straight guy, it takes a lot of courage to slap on some oil and a thong and pose in front of an audience of mostly gay men.  that would be the difficult part.