Vince Basile?

[bb doc]

TA-

First time I'm responding to 1 of your posts, but bro, it is NOT easy to get into (respectable) contest shape!

At least if you're someone who's NOT naturally lean - Arvilla, myself, etc.

I've done 2 bb contests (natural) - while both were fun as hell to do - the last month of dieting to go from reasonably lean (like where you are now I think TA) to RIPPED - freaking SUCKS!!! Again, this may not apply to you, but for me at least, it took 2 hours a day of cardio + low calorie dieting for the last month of prep to get that really RIPPED look.

I've also dieted for amateur wrestling - which actually is a bit harder, due to having to drop all that water weight, in addition to fat.

Seriously, TA - try a contest - not to prove anything to anyone - but just for fun!

It sounds + looks like you've got a fast metabolism, so you'd probably only need 1 or 1,5 months to get in really ripped shape.

Good luck,

 bb doc

[The True Adonis]

TA-

First time I'm responding to 1 of your posts, but bro, it is NOT easy to get into (respectable) contest shape!

At least if you're someone who's NOT naturally lean - Arvilla, myself, etc.

I've done 2 bb contests (natural) - while both were fun as hell to do - the last month of dieting to go from reasonably lean (like where you are now I think TA) to RIPPED - freaking SUCKS!!! Again, this may not apply to you, but for me at least, it took 2 hours a day of cardio + low calorie dieting for the last month of prep to get that really RIPPED look.

I've also dieted for amateur wrestling - which actually is a bit harder, due to having to drop all that water weight, in addition to fat.

Seriously, TA - try a contest - not to prove anything to anyone - but just for fun!

It sounds + looks like you've got a fast metabolism, so you'd probably only need 1 or 1,5 months to get in really ripped shape.

Good luck,

 bb doc

The level of difficulty is dependent upon your methods.
Why did you have to do 2 hours of cardio?  What if you went ultra low calorie for 12-15 months first.  I guarantee that if you did that, I doubt cardio would even be a concern.

[BroadStreetBruiser]

I don't see what's hard. Eat less, eat real food and your set. I tell people I'm eating 1,500 calories a day and then they tell me it's too low then I tell them what I actually eat and they realize I'm eating better than them. Sheep following the herd. I eat 1 big meal that kicks up my calories and I keep it simple. It's too fucking easy......

[Mr.Hutch]

The level of difficulty is dependent upon your methods.
Why did you have to do 2 hours of cardio?  What if you went ultra low calorie for 12-15 months first.  I guarantee that if you did that, I doubt cardio would even be a concern.

Your right size would be a concern...Especially for a natural..

[Mr.Hutch]

I don't see what's hard. Eat less, eat real food and your set. I tell people I'm eating 1,500 calories a day and then they tell me it's too low then I tell them what I actually eat and they realize I'm eating better than them. Sheep following the herd. I eat 1 big meal that kicks up my calories and I keep it simple. It's too fucking easy......

Jeezzizzz..that logic you just gave sucks...Remember that it isnt all about just losing weight..its about how to lose the most bodyfat while holding on to as much muscle as possible....1500 cals a day for a contest is terrible..you still have to keep the cals high but just with clean foods...

[BroadStreetBruiser]

Jeezzizzz..that logic you just gave sucks...Remember that it isnt all about just losing weight..its about how to lose the most bodyfat while holding on to as much muscle as possible....1500 cals a day for a contest is terrible..you still have to keep the cals high but just with clean foods...

Losing muscle is almost impossible. You're to brainwashed from FLEX magazine and all these juicers talking shit to realize that that kind of thing is a myth.

[Mr.Hutch]

Losing muscle is almost impossible. You're to brainwashed from FLEX magazine and all these juicers talking shit to realize that that kind of thing is a myth.

I dont read the bullshit magazines...But please go ahead and explain how losing muscle is impossible..

[The True Adonis]

Jeezzizzz..that logic you just gave sucks...Remember that it isnt all about just losing weight..its about how to lose the most bodyfat while holding on to as much muscle as possible....1500 cals a day for a contest is terrible..you still have to keep the cals high but just with clean foods...

I have dieted with ahigh calorie approach with cardio and now a low calorie approach with zero cardio..

I have lost bodyfat at the same rate and have retained the same amount of muscle mass.  I have added about 3-6 lbs of muscle since last year so I am on a correct path.

It is VERY DIFFICULT to lose muscle when dieting....I have yet to see anyone that actually has lost muscle due to dieting, provided they are eating frequently enough with protein.   Most people just don`t realize how fat they really are and it is a shock to them when they diet down.

[The True Adonis]

How many competitors have said, "I over-dieted" then next year they look the same with barely any added weight but their approach was different.  I have seen this too many times.

Its harder to lose muscle than it is to lose fat.

[BroadStreetBruiser]

Mr. Hutch go troll Ebay for some deals on limited edition Arnold Franklin Mint plate sets hahahahaha

[Mr.Hutch]

How many competitors have said, "I over-dieted" then next year they look the same with barely any added weight but their approach was different.  I have seen this too many times.

Its harder to lose muscle than it is to lose fat.

What most guys mean by over dieting is that they flattened out their muscles to a point where when they try and carb up they just look even flatter and softer...I dont they mean they lose muscle....

[Mr.Hutch]

I have dieted with ahigh calorie approach with cardio and now a low calorie approach with zero cardio..

I have lost bodyfat at the same rate and have retained the same amount of muscle mass.  I have added about 3-6 lbs of muscle since last year so I am on a correct path.

It is VERY DIFFICULT to lose muscle when dieting....I have yet to see anyone that actually has lost muscle due to dieting, provided they are eating frequently enough with protein.   Most people just don`t realize how fat they really are and it is a shock to them when they diet down.

I understand what you say Adonis but like the guy above said, is that you dont know what it is like being "contest"....Their is a big fuckin difference..I have seen your pics of you lean, and yes you look good but that aint contest lean man...I think if you try a show you will realize that in those last 4 weeks how it is possible to lose muscle..

[Mr.Hutch]

Mr. Hutch go troll Ebay for some deals on limited edition Arnold Franklin Mint plate sets hahahahaha

Thats exactly what I thought you'd say...hurry go eat 1 high cal meal for the day...

[The True Adonis]

I understand what you say Adonis but like the guy above said, is that you dont know what it is like being "contest"....Their is a big fuckin difference..I have seen your pics of you lean, and yes you look good but that aint contest lean man...I think if you try a show you will realize that in those last 4 weeks how it is possible to lose muscle..

Ok, we will see about that. hahaha

You guys like to make it out to be harder than it is though.  I guess it makes you feel like you actually have done something.  Arvilla is convinced that he is now a man. hahahhaa

Don`t be delusional.   Look at Shawn Perine.  He STAYS at 4-5 percent year round and eats pretty much what I eat...He even includes the good old Protein bar.

It is easy.

[Mr.Hutch]

Ok, we will see about that. hahaha

You guys like to make it out to be harder than it is though.  I guess it makes you feel like you actually have done something.  Arvilla is convinced that he is now a man. hahahhaa

Don`t be delusional.   Look at Shawn Perine.  He STAYS at 4-5 percent year round and eats pretty much what I eat...He even includes the good old Protein bar.

It is easy.

U know what your right it is easy to do a contest..the hard part is actually placing well in a contest and being a competitor that people notice..Not just some guy who thinks he is ripped and everyone cant wait til he gets off stage...

[240 is Back]

I can't blame TA for doing the online show and not a "real" show.

GB - Everyone in the top 3 of each class gets a couple hundred $ in cash and prizes. 
NPC - The overall winner in a local NPC show gets a plastic trophy.

GB - 20,000+ people will follow this contest, easily
NPC - 25 people in the audience for prejudging. 60 at the night show.

[HERACLES]

Haha.. True Adonis, i think your annoying the masses because your the only soul that thinks contest dieting is easy, or maybe the fact that you say this and have never competed    

Hey if its easy for you cool. You can say, its not that its hard, you just have to be disciplined, and want to get into contest shape bad enough...then its easy..for me its been easy since April- went from 240 to now 213 in August..(im hoping the scale will say 210 tom am at the gym)..its been easy for me, because Im hunngry to get back into bodybuilding shape..Its hard when I crave a pizza once in a blue..but thats only if I miss a meal and get too hungry. Otherwise, im an eating machine and losring about 2 lbs a week, or 8-10 lbs a month.

[The True Adonis]

Haha.. True Adonis, i think your annoying the masses because your the only soul that thinks contest dieting is easy, or maybe the fact that you say this and have never competed    

Hey if its easy for you cool. You can say, its not that its hard, you just have to be disciplined, and want to get into contest shape bad enough...then its easy..for me its been easy since April- went from 240 to now 213 in August..(im hoping the scale will say 210 tom am at the gym)..its been easy for me, because Im hunngry to get back into bodybuilding shape..Its hard when I crave a pizza once in a blue..but thats only if I miss a meal and get too hungry. Otherwise, im an eating machine and losring about 2 lbs a week, or 8-10 lbs a month.

It is easy, you are right. 

[Mr.Hutch]

I can't blame TA for doing the online show and not a "real" show.

GB - Everyone in the top 3 of each class gets a couple hundred $ in cash and prizes. 
NPC - The overall winner in a local NPC show gets a plastic trophy.

GB - 20,000+ people will follow this contest, easily
NPC - 25 people in the audience for prejudging. 60 at the night show.

what piece of shit NPC shows do you go to..we have over a thousand people at our state show this year...about 600 at prejudging..

[bmacsys]

Consider the source-the king of anger-management issues & rednecks on getbig. Someone who continually makes it obvious he hates Canadians yet is married to one; a moron.

Since you endorse it, go and make your very own avatar of you flexing your 13" arms you judgemental, self-righteous jackass.hahahahaahahahah ahah

I posted a pic of myself. Did you?

[240 is Back]

what piece of shit NPC shows do you go to..we have over a thousand people at our state show this year...about 600 at prejudging..

that's pretty good.  Do you think all NPC shows draw 1000 people, the majority, some, or very few?

[bmacsys]

Consider the source-the king of anger-management issues & rednecks on getbig. Someone who continually makes it obvious he hates Canadians yet is married to one; a moron.

I don't hate Canadians. I'm not angry. I just enjoy hammering dorks like you.

[HERACLES]

Yeah 240, you must go to some pos shows like Mr Hutch said, man the NGA shows in Manhattan i was in, holy shit the crowd was massive..im sure Pros like Kai Green that graced the stage didnt hurt either.. he was awesome back then (like 10 years ago)..

[The True Adonis]

Yeah 240, you must go to some pos shows like Mr Hutch said, man the NGA shows in Manhattan i was in, holy shit the crowd was massive..im sure Pros like Kai Green that graced the stage didnt hurt either.. he was awesome back then (like 10 years ago)..

Was he more gay or less gay back then?

[BroadStreetBruiser]

500% less gay