Author Topic: Modern Pro bodybuilding is a joke (Read 10123 times)

alexxx · « **Reply #25 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:27:17 AM »

Quote from: sarcasm on August 29, 2006, 11:15:32 AM

no one needs 10-12 hrs. sleep.

Lazy wankstas do or else they would be too dazed to open the front door.

jmt1 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:28:56 AM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 10:33:36 AM

How hard do you have to train and diet to be 175-235 lbs. @ 5-7% bf on stage. Hell you did'nt even have to tan or paint to win back then. I am way old school but Let's not miniturize what's going on right now. we can't go backwards. I need 8-10 meals/day 2 workouts 2 cardios and 10-12 hrs sleep. Someone has gotta Help a brother out!!!

thats the truth right there...like i said in the other post, nothing against those guys from the 60s and 70s but that type of physique wouldnt even win a quality npc show today.

toney i know you worked with author l rea in the past...did you work with anyone on your prep for the europa?

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #27 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:31:34 AM »

Quote from: sarcasm on August 29, 2006, 11:15:32 AM

no one needs 10-12 hrs. sleep.

lazy unemployed bodybuilders do!

alexxx · « **Reply #28 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:32:39 AM »

Quote from: donrhummy on August 29, 2006, 11:26:26 AM

First off I thought you looked great winning the contest, but...let's not be ridiculous here. Arnold and Sergio (to name just two guys from back then) were pretty friggin' amazing. Training to look like them ain't easy. And as good as you looked in this recent contest, I wouldn't bet on your physique against Sergio at his best any day of the week.

I'm sorry but for all your 10-12 hrs of sleep, 8+ meals a day and whatever else you do, you haven't equaled (or passed) this:

Sergio was one of a kind. He worked 10 hour butcher shifts and after that went in to train for hours non end. Few have that will power especially bodybuilders today.

Toney Freeman is the closest physique to ironage today.

jmt1 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 29, 2006, 02:33:10 PM »

Quote from: donrhummy on August 29, 2006, 11:26:26 AM

First off I thought you looked great winning the contest, but...let's not be ridiculous here. I wouldn't bet on your physique against Sergio at his best any day of the week.

common man...l like sergio also but u gotta keep it real...if sergio came with that physique today he would not do well...it is a different sport today.

you cannot compare toney and sergios physiques...toney would blow him away on legs, conditioning, and the level of musculartiy and detail...especially from the back.

now if sergio was competing today and had the same advantages of training methods, nutrition, and drugs....it would be a different story.

alexxx · « **Reply #30 on:** August 29, 2006, 03:04:47 PM »

Toney is wider than I though.

Stavios · « **Reply #31 on:** August 29, 2006, 04:10:43 PM »

Toney is a monster plain and simple

HERACLES · « **Reply #32 on:** August 29, 2006, 04:57:42 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on August 29, 2006, 04:10:43 PM

Toney is a monster plain and simple

Yes, Toney is quite a beast, cant wait to see him at this years MRO.

jmt1 · « **Reply #33 on:** August 29, 2006, 05:56:44 PM »

Quote from: HERACLES on August 29, 2006, 04:57:42 PM

Yes, Toney is quite a beast, cant wait to see him at this years MRO.

wouldnt be suprised to see him crack the top 5.

pobrecito · « **Reply #34 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:16:51 PM »

Sergio had some of, if not the best genetics of all-time, along with Wheeler and Dillet.

Jr. Yates · « **Reply #35 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:18:19 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on August 29, 2006, 06:16:51 PM

Sergio had some of, if not the best genetics of all-time, along with Wheeler and Dillet.

yes sir.

alexxx · « **Reply #36 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:23:10 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on August 29, 2006, 06:16:51 PM

Sergio had some of, if not the best genetics of all-time, along with Wheeler and Dillet.

Serge thinks that Sergio is the most blessed bodybuilder because he would train badly and never paid attention to nutrition.

pobrecito · « **Reply #37 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:24:35 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on August 29, 2006, 06:23:10 PM

Serge thinks that Sergio is the most blessed bodybuilder because he would train badly and never paid attention to nutrition.

Well, the drugs take care of a lot of the nutrition issues. Much better nutrient partioning on the sauce.

Jr. Yates · « **Reply #38 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:30:36 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on August 29, 2006, 06:23:10 PM

Serge thinks that Sergio is the most blessed bodybuilder because he would train badly and never paid attention to nutrition.

so? lots didn't. wouldn't Arnold go eat a pie to himself 3 weeks out of a compition? when they were chilling out at the beach did you see tupperware containers of chicken,potatoes and broccoli?

danielson · « **Reply #39 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:35:51 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on August 29, 2006, 12:38:56 AM

Gay for pay is huge in BB. Check out the thread "Posing Suits" with nearly 30,000 pages viewed:

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15

I haven't had much time to check out my own boards lately but there are tons of nude photos in there.

that board sucks. I read three posts and one of them was some kid talking about posing in a g string. no more links to that pos board please.

profreeman · « **Reply #40 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:38:07 PM »

I only report what I do. If I get 10-12 hrs of sleep I'm not saying I sleep that long. It's usually broken up between workouts. 2 naps and the 6-8 hrs at night. I also eat 8-10 meals cause that's what works for me. I do 2 cardios and 2 workouts because evidently that what CHAMPIONS do. I'm glad I finally figured that out so I am able to enjoy the fruits of my labor. If some of you want to have some of the same type of experiences in life you might want to listen to this old man...peace

p.s. OR NOT

Jr. Yates · « **Reply #41 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:52:43 PM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 06:38:07 PM

I only report what I do. If I get 10-12 hrs of sleep I'm not saying I sleep that long. It's usually broken up between workouts. 2 naps and the 6-8 hrs at night. I also eat 8-10 meals cause that's what works for me. I do 2 cardios and 2 workouts because evidently that what CHAMPIONS do. I'm glad I finally figured that out so I am able to enjoy the fruits of my labor. If some of you want to have some of the same type of experiences in life you might want to listen to this old man...peace

p.s. OR NOT

most of us will listen. and congrats Toney! (im hoping your Toney haha)

profreeman · « **Reply #42 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:12:11 PM »

By the way I'm not downing or minturizing what they did. I'M just defending US!! This is NOT A JOKE!! I wouldn't have this oppourtunity if it were not for those guys. I been doing this a long time but I have learned so much in the last 18mo. That it has and will continue take me farther than i ever thought possible...peace

The True Adonis · « **Reply #43 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:16:42 PM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 06:38:07 PM

I only report what I do. If I get 10-12 hrs of sleep I'm not saying I sleep that long. It's usually broken up between workouts. 2 naps and the 6-8 hrs at night. I also eat 8-10 meals cause that's what works for me. I do 2 cardios and 2 workouts because evidently that what CHAMPIONS do. I'm glad I finally figured that out so I am able to enjoy the fruits of my labor. If some of you want to have some of the same type of experiences in life you might want to listen to this old man...peace

p.s. OR NOT

What kind of drugs do you take. That is important if someone wants to look like you. More so than twice a day workouts and 8-12 hours of sleep.

alexxx · « **Reply #44 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:26:42 PM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 06:38:07 PM

I only report what I do. If I get 10-12 hrs of sleep I'm not saying I sleep that long. It's usually broken up between workouts. 2 naps and the 6-8 hrs at night. I also eat 8-10 meals cause that's what works for me. I do 2 cardios and 2 workouts because evidently that what CHAMPIONS do. I'm glad I finally figured that out so I am able to enjoy the fruits of my labor. If some of you want to have some of the same type of experiences in life you might want to listen to this old man...peace

p.s. OR NOT

You do Dorian Yates' workout twice a day?

pobrecito · « **Reply #45 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:36:00 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on August 29, 2006, 07:16:42 PM

What kind of drugs do you take. That is important if someone wants to look like you. More so than twice a day workouts and 8-12 hours of sleep.

Same drugs that everyone else takes. He just has better genetics than 99% of people, you included.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #46 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:38:27 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on August 29, 2006, 07:36:00 PM

Same drugs that everyone else takes. He just has better genetics than 99% of people, you included.

He is not taking the same drugs that Sergio Oliva took though.

jaejonna · « **Reply #47 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:41:07 PM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 07:12:11 PM

By the way I'm not downing or minturizing what they did. I'M just defending US!! This is NOT A JOKE!! I wouldn't have this oppourtunity if it were not for those guys. I been doing this a long time but I have learned so much in the last 18mo. That it has and will continue take me farther than i ever thought possible...peace

I think i speak on behalf of 90% of everyone here when I say its good to have you post here soo often (as of late)

jaejonna · « **Reply #48 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:42:58 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on August 29, 2006, 07:38:27 PM

He is not taking the same drugs that Sergio Oliva took though.

Sergio boasted that he drank coca cola and ate pizza regularly cause he rationalized that it basically comes down to calories

dzulboy · « **Reply #49 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:44:06 PM »

Quote from: Bast000 on August 29, 2006, 12:19:30 AM

The majority of pros now have a trainer/nutritionist do everything for them. Tell them how to workout, what to eat, how much to eat.

Who was Arnold's nutritionist? Did arnold pay a trainer $350 an hour with money he made from dealing steroids or posing naked for gay guys to help him win Mr. Olympia? NO

Most of the pros don't think for themselves. That's not bodybuilding. They're just lab rats for the 'gurus'.

It's so stupid that Chad Nicholls has clients who compete against eachother.

arnold's trainer was john balick and he did gay for pay also (there are nude photos of him circulateing)