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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #100 on: September 15, 2006, 10:41:26 AM »
jay consistantly looks good, but is no where near Ronnie at all.  Even with his tighter look there just isn't the detail in the shoulders and arms.  The hams and glutes are not too sharp at all...especially for top in the world.  It appears like his lats haven't improved or his trunk girth has increased over the past year.  I don't know if Jay used a lot of the nuclear nutrition synthol when he was hanging around Trevor, but it appears that way and DEFINITLY has held back his physique......once you consistantly use that garbage or any oil you will never return to the sharpness you once had.   

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« Reply #101 on: September 15, 2006, 10:48:43 AM »
I think he looks good given the monsters he has to compete with...He definately is much closer to ready than Badell though...  he looks like he could go on stage in a week!  his waste is wide, but there ain't shit he can do about it with 3 weeks to go.  from these pics, he has 2nd locked down!

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« Reply #102 on: September 15, 2006, 10:52:20 AM »
What's going to be amusing is when Ronnie finally retires and Jay still gets 2nd place behind someone else.  I would love to see that in person.
oh man that makes me cringe! could happen but i think Cutler would snap!
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« Reply #103 on: September 15, 2006, 10:53:53 AM »
??? What?! Are you really a writer? Did you mean:

"Gustavo looks like he is ready to reign in that picture"
(meaning he looks ready to reign as Olympia king)

or

"Gustavo looks like he is ready to rein in that picture"
(meaning he's going to stop Jay, who's in "that picture" )

or did you really mean "rain" in that he looks wet and drippy?!

Seriously, a writer?  :(


RAIN in the sense that he hold alot of water IE: A CLOUD...dumbass ;D...don't ever diss Romano! and i agree with John.
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« Reply #104 on: September 15, 2006, 10:56:46 AM »
Looks great.

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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #105 on: September 15, 2006, 11:13:32 AM »
2 weeks out, I hope Jay's glutes will look much drier comes saturday 30th
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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #106 on: September 15, 2006, 11:15:56 AM »
2 weeks out, I hope Jay's glutes will look much drier comes saturday 30th

I bet you do  ;D
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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #107 on: September 15, 2006, 11:17:54 AM »
Jay winning will be bring a positive change to the industry. Bodybuilding has lost its appeal to much of the public and its participants. The sport is viewed as a ghetto of unintelligent, criminal and extreme worshiping buffoons. A man like Jay who carries himself professionally, presents a clean cut, tastefull and healthy image, avoids trash talk and the party lifestyle, would be an outstanding leader. His winning the Olympia would bring a resurgence of interest and optimism from young fans and athletes desperately seeking a healthy and honorable sport to participate in.

Think about it judges.

Bullshit!! Judges are supposed to reward the best physique on stage. And guess what? So far Jay has never been good enough to beat Ronnie, like it or not. It's not a competition for who has the best image or is better spoken. Last time I checked Mr O. is a bodybuilding show, not a "cleancut building" parade.
Also, did you write "Jay Cutler" and "healthy" in the same sentence???   ::)

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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #108 on: September 15, 2006, 11:30:01 AM »
Jay has some SICK, SICK wheels, a great super wide back...he looks great..hes a professional, and he will change dramatically more in 15 days too..

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« Reply #109 on: September 15, 2006, 11:40:12 AM »
I think he looked better in 2003. (Yes, they're contest pics but he looked bigger with a smaller waist then)

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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #110 on: September 15, 2006, 11:40:51 AM »
One more...

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« Reply #111 on: September 15, 2006, 11:48:05 AM »
Bullshit!! Judges are supposed to reward the best physique on stage. And guess what? So far Jay has never been good enough to beat Ronnie, like it or not. It's not a competition for who has the best image or is better spoken. Last time I checked Mr O. is a bodybuilding show, not a "cleancut building" parade.
Also, did you write "Jay Cutler" and "healthy" in the same sentence???   ::)

wake up to reality dude, all competitions take other factors like personality and moral character into judging and rightfully so. The title Mr. Oympia should go to a man of great physical stature, presence, depth of character and good moral standing. Jay has all four. As the title holder he can lead the way to make bodybuilding more than a pursuit of muscular gluttony and extremism.

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« Reply #112 on: September 15, 2006, 11:50:12 AM »
Ya he's pretty much all Mass'ed out. not much has changed in 3 years only thing he can hope on is coming in unbelievably dry and beat Ron on conditioning like in 2001. Ron's genetics are jus to freaky.

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« Reply #113 on: September 15, 2006, 12:16:13 PM »
wake up to reality dude, all competitions take other factors like personality and moral character into judging and rightfully so. The title Mr. Oympia should go to a man of great physical stature, presence, depth of character and good moral standing. Jay has all four. As the title holder he can lead the way to make bodybuilding more than a pursuit of muscular gluttony and extremism.



No you have to wake up sir. Tell me just one competition where the factors that you have listed have had some importance. If and when that happened, those were very controversial decision (see Mr. O. 1980 when Arnold won for the last time) and real bb fans didn't t like that.
I don't see that happening today. You may argue that the judging citeria are wrong, that aesthetics should play a bigger role. But once you fix the parameters to evaluate athletes then you have to stick to those, not to bullshit like "moral standing".... Do you really think that someone can judge in a bb competition the moral standards of an athlete???
The truth is that Ronnie today represents the best bber given the criteria the judges follow, muscularity, simmetry and definition. And, deservedly he got his title for 8 times. If he will meet those criteria once more, he will win again in 2 weeks.
 

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« Reply #114 on: September 15, 2006, 12:18:13 PM »
I think he looked better in 2003. (Yes, they're contest pics but he looked bigger with a smaller waist then)

You posy pics that show his waist straight on then from an angle ::) If you look at the lat spread comparison you can clearly see his waist is the exact same in the first and third pic.

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« Reply #115 on: September 15, 2006, 12:43:24 PM »

No you have to wake up sir. Tell me just one competition where the factors that you have listed have had some importance. If and when that happened, those were very controversial decision (see Mr. O. 1980 when Arnold won for the last time) and real bb fans didn't t like that.
I don't see that happening today. You may argue that the judging citeria are wrong, that aesthetics should play a bigger role. But once you fix the parameters to evaluate athletes then you have to stick to those, not to bullshit like "moral standing".... Do you really think that someone can judge in a bb competition the moral standards of an athlete???
The truth is that Ronnie today represents the best bber given the criteria the judges follow, muscularity, simmetry and definition. And, deservedly he got his title for 8 times. If he will meet those criteria once more, he will win again in 2 weeks.
 

I am suggesting the judges do so irregardless of the rules. To push an agenda and set a precedent to restore the title to its original meaning: the ideal man in body and spirit. The body can be measured with numbers and rules, but without an internal life we are all just looking at shells. Whats the point? If the judges care about this sport and the direction it is moving they will take into consideration factors other than muscular gluttony, extremism, ego obsession and pharmacuetical acrobatics. I am suggesting they look at the title Mr. Olympia and think about what it means to them and to all the youngsters dreaming of becoming ideal men. They can forge ahead or they can tow the line. What will it be?

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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #116 on: September 15, 2006, 01:32:50 PM »
I am suggesting the judges do so irregardless of the rules. To push an agenda and set a president to restore the title to its original meaning: the ideal man in body and spirit. The body can be measured with numbers and rules, but without an internal life we are all just looking at shells. Whats the point? If the judges care about this sport and the direction it is moving they will take into consideration factors other than muscular gluttony, extremism, ego obsession and pharmacuetical acrobatics. I am suggesting they look at the title Mr. Olympia and think about what it means to them and to all the youngsters dreaming of becoming ideal men. They can forge ahead or they can tow the line. What will it be?

Precedent.

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« Reply #117 on: September 15, 2006, 02:00:01 PM »
What a load of malarkey.  ::) ::)  The judges are going to carry out a mental check list of all the worthwhile charities and such that Jay contributes to..yes, he deserves to beat Ronnie as he gave to the children.  Give me a f__ing break.  NYCBull is full of utter BS.  This is a bodybuilding show.  If Jay were going to win, it would have happened five years ago.  Please, that is the biggest bunch of BS I have heard on this board...ever...an I partook in the Dorian vs Ronnie thread.  Please, Jay loses because he lacks detail in the back, hams and glutes that Ronnie possesses.  Ronnie's is bigger, has better arms and looks plain better.  This is not rocket science.  Jay is second place until Ronnie retires or comes in sans arms or legs....not going to happen.  Get over your pontifications about moral character and eloquence winning bodybuilding shows.  Actually, if intelligence were the only issue, then Lee Labrada would be fifteen time Mr. Olympia by now.  It is not a required prerequisite.

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« Reply #118 on: September 15, 2006, 03:56:48 PM »
What a load of malarkey.  ::) ::)  The judges are going to carry out a mental check list of all the worthwhile charities and such that Jay contributes to..yes, he deserves to beat Ronnie as he gave to the children. 

Yes absolutely. What good is a man that posesses the ideal male physique if the character behind it is inferior?  Is he really an ideal man if he leads a self serving life? Will he really represent the top spot in the sport if he is morally bankrupt?

If the ideal man was just about measurements then why not bring out the measuring tape just like a cattle show?  I think the judges should take into consideration the whole life of the bodybuilder. After all he is representing a male ideal. What point is there if it is just the physical. The "Mr" in the title Mr. Olympia implies not only a person with an ideal male physique but also a person who carries themselves with maturity, respect and acts in a morally sound way.
 

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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #119 on: September 15, 2006, 04:05:16 PM »
He's looking very well.  Pretty much as I expected.  I'm not sure why Jay has such difficulty understanding that even IF he deserves to win, he won't.  Optimism is cool, but not when it overshadows realism.  Jay is looking to take another strong second this year.

But, If for any reason Ronnie cant compete, then Jay has to be at his all time best, less they give the title to someone else.

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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #120 on: September 15, 2006, 04:08:45 PM »
I think he looked better in 2003. (Yes, they're contest pics but he looked bigger with a smaller waist then)
in that comparison jay look exactly on track for his 2001 look with a exstra 5 to 10 lbs in his arms  pecs and lats , very subtle difference but noticable plus his back was waybetter last yr then 2001 so if jay hits his conditioning like 01 wich it looks like he might this will be his best total pakhage ever.... might not beat ronnie if ronnies on....
BUT most forget on here ronnie really was showing his age last yr with old looking skin and the lat and tricep problem, so i wouldnt be surprised if ronnie just gets old right in front of our eyes and loses his crown!

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« Reply #121 on: September 15, 2006, 04:16:03 PM »
NYCBull, you are joking right.  ::) ::) The judges are going to make a mental checklist of the fact that Jay is married and lives a life of ... wait a sec..he is a pro bodybuilder.  With that, he is using tons of anabolics, GH, insulin and diuretics.  This is an example.  Go home buddy.  Moral character is not part of the Mr. Olympia checklist.

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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #122 on: September 15, 2006, 04:16:48 PM »
Jay looks awesome. In those pics, do his quads look better in 2001?

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« Reply #123 on: September 15, 2006, 04:25:12 PM »
Jay looks awesome. In those pics, do his quads look better in 2001?
look at the first pic on page 1 , his quads blow away his 2001 in every way possible!

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Re: Cutler 15 Days Out!
« Reply #124 on: September 15, 2006, 04:33:27 PM »
His lat spread looks crazy. Waist looks MUCH improved, with a much wider spread. Looks like he is really pushing it this year.