You know, Keith, you and I don't need a backup gang to support us. We tell it like it is and are responsible for what we post. If you say Goodrum looks like a beginner and not some advanced personal trainer who am I to argue with you? That is what everyone else sees. My contribution here is to keep Venom Vince around these parts because he is a rare gift to any community. While he does not perceive himself as a whipping boy here that is definitely the role he assumes at the bottom of the heap. Naturally, he resurrects himself and posts as if nothing untoward has happened. He got up on stage so is a bodybuilder, afterall. While his standing makes Getbiggers scoff and howl you gotta love the way he comes back for more of the same.