Author Topic: need some advice on gaining bodyweight (Read 4296 times)

NoCalBbEr · « **on:** September 28, 2006, 03:09:52 PM »

hey guys
I need some serious help with gaining bodyweight.. I kinda knew that I was getting leaner by how my clothes fit, but when i went to my doctor the other day.. I lost about 15 lbs in two months.. I kinda dont really understand the weight lose. I've been eating more then ever.. I eat every 1. - 2 hours, 8 per day.. I have changed from four days a week to a five day split. I do everything that are compound like bench press, squats, dips and chins.. I'm doing about 12-15 sets per bodypart..

this is my split right now
chest/abs
thighs
shoulders/calves
back'traps
arms

i go mon-fri bc i dont really enjoytraining on the weekends.. what do you guys think i need to change to gain more bodyweight?? i dont really gain verymuch bodyfat. so i dont really care if its bodyfat.

thanks guys

davie · « **Reply #1 on:** September 29, 2006, 01:31:23 AM »

Quote from: NoCalBbEr on September 28, 2006, 03:09:52 PM

hey guys
I need some serious help with gaining bodyweight.. I kinda knew that I was getting leaner by how my clothes fit, but when i went to my doctor the other day.. I lost about 15 lbs in two months.. I kinda dont really understand the weight lose. I've been eating more then ever.. I eat every 1. - 2 hours, 8 per day.. I have changed from four days a week to a five day split. I do everything that are compound like bench press, squats, dips and chins.. I'm doing about 12-15 sets per bodypart..

this is my split right now
chest/abs
thighs
shoulders/calves
back'traps
arms

i go mon-fri bc i dont really enjoytraining on the weekends.. what do you guys think i need to change to gain more bodyweight?? i dont really gain verymuch bodyfat. so i dont really care if its bodyfat.

thanks guys

Might just be a case of keeping diet as it is and add couple more shakes, or stop all cardio?!

davie

smaul · « **Reply #2 on:** September 29, 2006, 01:34:37 AM »

That doesnt seem right. Have you checked with your doctor to see if you're healthy, losing that amount of weight so quickly whilst eating 8 meals a day?

If you're healthy all you can really do is indeed drop the cardio and maybe replace all protein supplements shakes with protein and carb shakes.

krazee · « **Reply #3 on:** September 29, 2006, 01:59:34 AM »

A shake before you go to bed works wonders. But what worked for me is to wake up in the middle of the night and drink a shake. It sucks getting up for it, but man does it work.

BigCypriate · « **Reply #4 on:** September 29, 2006, 07:49:29 AM »

Quote from: krazee on September 29, 2006, 01:59:34 AM

A shake before you go to bed works wonders. But what worked for me is to wake up in the middle of the night and drink a shake. It sucks getting up for it, but man does it work.

Did your boyfriend mind you waking him up for your protein?

krazee · « **Reply #5 on:** October 01, 2006, 10:05:59 PM »

Quote from: BigCypriate on September 29, 2006, 07:49:29 AM

Did your boyfriend mind you waking him up for your protein?

And that comment came from where? Someone asks for some advise and I give what works for me. And you give some off the wall comment that probably took no brain cells for you to come up with. Why don't you go on another board and play a game of hide and go fuck yourself.

NoCalBbEr · « **Reply #6 on:** October 01, 2006, 10:51:00 PM »

hey guys
is this morfe a training issue or a 'eat more issue'?? would it be better if I bumped down to a four day split to get more days to be 'lazy'?? I'm just trying to look under any rock for the answer. I have the lean muscle mass alright.. I just got to make it fuller.. this is how serious I am, when i miss a meal. I'll get pissed at myself. but most of the time.. but its mostly the time crunch thing.

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krazee · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2006, 10:03:32 PM »

First of all beating yourself up over missing a meal is not going to help, as it creates stress for yourself, never gain any weight if your stressed. 4 day split is fine, optimum is 5 with 2 rest days. What kind of rep sequence are you using, how many sets per bodypart, need some more to work with. As far as gaining, again I can't stress enough to try the shake in the middle of the night, look at it this way, your body is geting no food for at least 8 hours so it starts to burn while you sleep. If you give it something else to burn such as a shake then it will not be burning what you already have in the middle of the night. You follow me?

NoCalBbEr · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2006, 10:36:08 PM »

I'm doing around 12 working set..3-4 exerise per muscle group.. I'll diff try the shake but usually if i can't sleep b/c I'm too hungry or i get up in the middle of the night hungry. I'll eat something solid. sometimes a shake is not engoh for me..

My reps are in the eight to ten range.. i would perfer six to eight but I just always get more reps then i think..

krazee · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2006, 10:57:06 PM »

MRP shake as opposed to a protein shake, it's just easier then rummaging to find something to eat in the middle of the night. Working sets seem to be on point, as I do around the same myself. As far as the reps 6-8 for the bigger muscle groups ie: chest, shoulders and back. 10 -12 for smaller groups, bi's and tri's for instance. Now here is were alot of people seem to get it wrong as did I for the longest time. Legs need a lot more reps, leg press 20 - 25, squats 10 - 15, extensions and leg curls around that 15 mark. When I do legs I do 8 working sets of squats alone with 2 warm ups, plus the regular exercises. My legs in the last few months since I have changed to this have grown 2 - 3 inches. Also try alot of compound movements, try 2 weeks of this....mon,wed,fri...squats, deadlifts and bench no more no less. 5 working sets of each movement. Huge shocker on the system, your body will not know what hit it.

egoatdoor · « **Reply #10 on:** October 04, 2006, 04:30:43 AM »

Its very simple. To gain weight, you need to ingest more calories than you are expending. Its DIET, as in EAT and EAT and EAT. The training program is secondary.

NoCalBbEr · « **Reply #11 on:** October 04, 2006, 01:04:36 PM »

yea i wish it was that easy for me.. but i stay lean even if i just eat junk everyday...i dont do cardio at all....

WOOO · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:44:47 PM »

Quote from: NoCalBbEr on October 04, 2006, 01:04:36 PM

yea i wish it was that easy for me.. but i stay lean even if i just eat junk everyday...i dont do cardio at all....

horseshit... if you eat more calories than you burn you will gain weight.....

egoatdoor · « **Reply #13 on:** October 04, 2006, 07:54:18 PM »

Stop making excuses and do it. EAT.

I used to think I was the same way. 4000 calories a day and I've gained 27 pounds in 4 years later.

brianX · « **Reply #14 on:** October 04, 2006, 07:55:49 PM »

Lots and lots of milk.

krazee · « **Reply #15 on:** October 04, 2006, 11:07:45 PM »

Quote from: WOOO on October 04, 2006, 06:44:47 PM

horseshit... if you eat more calories than you burn you will gain weight.....

Now c'mon WOOO, look at the adonis diet, those guys eat everything that is bad for them and they look like they should be on stage...LOL....can you tell the sarcasm in my voice....oh it's true. Seriously though, if he's young his metabolism could be that high, my friend will sit down at a buffet keep eating and won't leave until they tell him to and yet he still does not gain an ounce. I don't know how but it is possible. So there could be some merit to this guys story.

egoatdoor · « **Reply #16 on:** October 05, 2006, 03:48:16 AM »

Quote from: krazee on October 04, 2006, 11:07:45 PM

Seriously though, if he's young his metabolism could be that high, my friend will sit down at a buffet keep eating and won't leave until they tell him to and yet he still does not gain an ounce. I don't know how but it is possible. So there could be some merit to this guys story.

So does he go to the buffet every day? Or is it once and a while and every other day, he's eating erratically and only taking in 1500 calories a day?

Gaining weight means consistently eating every day, on the clock, every 2-3 hours. Getting enough protein, carbs and healthy fats.

There are no excuses if you want it bad enough.

As I write this, I'm eating an 800 calorie breakfast of chicken, potatoes, egg whites, a whole egg and a whole wheat bagel. Do I feel like doing this every day? No! But I do it because I have to and I'm not a whiner like this guy.

krazee · « **Reply #17 on:** October 06, 2006, 12:04:56 AM »

Quote from: egoatdoor on October 05, 2006, 03:48:16 AM

So does he go to the buffet every day? Or is it once and a while and every other day, he's eating erratically and only taking in 1500 calories a day?

Gaining weight means consistently eating every day, on the clock, every 2-3 hours. Getting enough protein, carbs and healthy fats.

There are no excuses if you want it bad enough.

As I write this, I'm eating an 800 calorie breakfast of chicken, potatoes, egg whites, a whole egg and a whole wheat bagel. Do I feel like doing this every day? No! But I do it because I have to and I'm not a whiner like this guy.

Your point is well taken, I do understand fully as to what you are saying, ya my friend does this about 2 times a week not every day. I'm sure it would not be easy on the stomach nor the wallet IMO.

Is this guy a whiner? I would not say that as so much as to say somebody that may be new to the game and is looking for the right answer to a problem he has. Not everyone may have the will nor the determination such as yourself. I will be the first to admit that I have fallen off a diet before a competition, when other factors come in to play, death in the family, holidays that sort of stuff. Every newbie will learn through trial and error that bodybuilding is mostly diet and training is just a small part of it. But has to be learned by them to really sink in.

Sculpter · « **Reply #18 on:** October 06, 2006, 06:03:10 AM »

How much do you currently weigh & have you adjusted your diet/eating regimen lately?Let's say you needed x amount of calories to go from say a 180lber to a 190lber & you achieved that goal,...great.Now, from a 190lber you want to achieve a weight of 200 lbs.Obviously the diet you used to get up to 190 lbs will not be enough calorie wise to get to the 200 lbs you want to be.

WOOO · « **Reply #19 on:** October 06, 2006, 05:26:06 PM »

preach!

NoCalBbEr · « **Reply #20 on:** October 06, 2006, 08:24:11 PM »

i surrently weight about 210-215 lbs.. I have uped my calories a lot and started to eat in the middle of the night and get my water water in my body... I've started the drink milk again.. I've been told that diary products makes ppl look soft. so, thats why I stayed away......

WOOO · « **Reply #21 on:** October 08, 2006, 03:25:17 AM »

Quote from: NoCalBbEr on October 06, 2006, 08:24:11 PM

i surrently weight about 210-215 lbs.. I have uped my calories a lot and started to eat in the middle of the night and get my water water in my body... I've started the drink milk again.. I've been told that diary products makes ppl look soft. so, thats why I stayed away......

dairy is great... just drop it pre-contest

NoCalBbEr · « **Reply #22 on:** October 14, 2006, 11:41:01 PM »

yea, i wish i can drink more. but diary isn't a good too-go product. I started to add in oatmeal in my whey shakes.

I think that, I'm going back to a four day split. I dont know if I'm its just something going around or its my body telling me that I'm overtraining but I have a small flu or something. but I'm just recovering from it at this point.

also, on the split change, I noticed that, my training is 30-40 minutes a day.. I train with alot of intensity that might be the downfall..so people tell me, to lower my intensity and rest more between my sets to get more recovery but once I'm in the gym I just go. and try to get out quickly.

JackCheze · « **Reply #23 on:** October 15, 2006, 01:55:29 PM »

put ice cream in your shakes (if you don't already), they'll taste better and pack the calories in

sarcasm · « **Reply #24 on:** October 15, 2006, 01:59:44 PM »

Quote from: NoCalBbEr on September 28, 2006, 03:09:52 PM

hey guys
I need some serious help with gaining bodyweight.. I kinda knew that I was getting leaner by how my clothes fit, but when i went to my doctor the other day.. I lost about 15 lbs in two months.. I kinda dont really understand the weight lose. I've been eating more then ever.. I eat every 1. - 2 hours, 8 per day.. I have changed from four days a week to a five day split. I do everything that are compound like bench press, squats, dips and chins.. I'm doing about 12-15 sets per bodypart..

this is my split right now
chest/abs
thighs
shoulders/calves
back'traps
arms

i go mon-fri bc i dont really enjoytraining on the weekends.. what do you guys think i need to change to gain more bodyweight?? i dont really gain verymuch bodyfat. so i dont really care if its bodyfat.

thanks guys

eat more calorie dense food, plain and simple, weight gain is a simple mathematical equation Calories In vs. Calories Out, more fast food, more steak, more carbs, coat your egg pan in the morning with Olive Oil instead of Pam, drink milk instead of water, eat ice cream, eat potato chips instead of baked potatos or rice, a couple of king size Snickers is 1100 calories, eat them before you train, you lucky bastard i wish i could eat like you, i gain weight so easy.