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Getbig Female Info Boards => Open Talk for Girl Discussion => Topic started by: DIVISION on August 12, 2007, 07:26:01 PM
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Kenneth asked whether my conversation with said Mormon girl crossed the boundaries of the trainer/client relationship.
I have to say in all honesty, it didn't.
After the session is over, I talk to clients all the time, providing I have time.
You'd be surprised at what type of things they tell me.
Marriages, sex lives, career...
I almost feel like a therapist in some ways.
A few have tried to push for sexual relations on the side, but I've never given in to temptation.
Most just want the extra attention from a man outside of their husband/boyfriend.
Only a trainer can determine what type of repoire they will have with a client, it's not really for anyone else to judge.
DIV
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I'd say keeping things professional is important. A lot of the people use trainers as paid friends at the gym and it also makes people look more serious/interesting than they actually are.
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Can't speak for a larger place, but here in the tiny community I live in, a 'relationship' with a client would be a *very* unwise move. It would look very unprofessional. Quite frankly, I would be inclined to fire my trainers if they were sleeping the client(s) and I knew about it. Of course I do live within a conservative society so it may be different elsewhere.
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Can't speak for a larger place, but here in the tiny community I live in, a 'relationship' with a client would be a *very* unwise move. It would look very unprofessional. Quite frankly, I would be inclined to fire my trainers if they were sleeping the client(s) and I knew about it. Of course I do live within a conservative society so it may be different elsewhere.
I live in Phoenix....in the suburbs..........all kinds of people.
I have a good relationship with both district managers who oversee all of Phoenix so I'm not worried about backlash politics.
A good trainer will always have work......regardless of which gym.
As I said, the trainer/client relationship is a personal one.....
Very much the same as a doctor/patient.
DIV
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I live in Phoenix....in the suburbs..........all kinds of people.
I have a good relationship with both district managers who oversee all of Phoenix so I'm not worried about backlash politics.
A good trainer will always have work......regardless of which gym.
As I said, the trainer/client relationship is a personal one.....
Very much the same as a doctor/patient.
DIV
The personal component is (at best) minimal.
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The personal component is (at best) minimal.
That's what you think, Jake...... ;D
DIV
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That's what you think, Jake...... ;D
DIV
To me it's the cases that are interesting. The other stuff usually doesn't factor in to any extent.
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To me it's the cases that are interesting. The other stuff usually doesn't factor in to any extent.
For me it's the mental aspect of the training that interests me.
Finding a person's motivation and exploiting that to get the results that I want to see.
For some people, it's not about exercise at all, but rather someone to talk to.....
Some people are lonely.
The physical issues I have to work around are a challenge at times and that is what makes it a job....
The psychology of training is what I enjoy.
DIV
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Kenneth asked whether my conversation with said Mormon girl crossed the boundaries of the trainer/client relationship.
I have to say in all honesty, it didn't.
After the session is over, I talk to clients all the time, providing I have time.
You'd be surprised at what type of things they tell me.
Marriages, sex lives, career...
I almost feel like a therapist in some ways.
A few have tried to push for sexual relations on the side, but I've never given in to temptation.
Most just want the extra attention from a man outside of their husband/boyfriend.
Only a trainer can determine what type of repoire they will have with a client, it's not really for anyone else to judge.
DIV
:-\ Did you mean rapport? Or the French word for pear?
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Deedee, did you say your ass was shaped like a pear?
Please show us. :-X
DIV
Great example of why more women don't post on these boards! >:(
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Great example of why more women don't post on these boards! >:(
There not being a new information wouldn't have anything to due with it being a little slow. ::) Aside from men, three women, an alias and the moderators.. who has posted here in months? Gardasil thread aside, that's an important public service.
What you really have to figure out is why Div has you so figured out. Otherwise a word or two wouldn't send you to such a defensive place on an emotional level. Occasionally Div makes an 'analysis'. In general, it's dismissed and quickly forgotten. Then you have the occasions where people get (and stay) upset to such an extent that it's obvious he was dead on. I just find it funny, (in that ironic, twisted way that makes me laugh a bit when bored or my GF is too busy to be annoyed) that the two people who took the greatest umbrage to his observations always assert he is the main reason this board has so few posts.
Personally, I kind of like the 'pear' shape. Rachael Ray, for example is cute as heck.
As far as psych goes... behavior/thought process modification is my area of intrest. :) I'm interested in to what extent people can become keenly aware of when their thought process goes awry and how well they can make alterations once aware of the mis-thought.
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Jake, I'm not defensive on any emotional level.
I just find the guy boring and annoying as heck.
His schtick is staler than month old bread :-\
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Jake, I'm not defensive on any emotional level.
I just find the guy boring and annoying as heck.
His schtick is staler than month old bread :-\
We're still not at the problem's root, LOL!
If your post is true.... why not just ignore Div's posts? Your behavior isn't congruent with what the post's explanation.
First of all... I'm assuming you're clever enough to scroll past Div's posts so there must be some reason the same statement or three evokes such a strong visceral response. Is it your sense of justice? Is one man's opinion so vile and reeking of testosterone that innocent by-readers need warning? Or is it your that your ego can't handle not being taken seriously by someone you feel more than a little superior to? :)
I'm more curious as to the actual underlying thought process than entertained. Most people never put any thought whatsoever into what they think. There's obviously a reason, I just wonder if you can clearly articulate it.
I see that you, and many others, actually don't 'get' the subtext of his posts. That being said.. tons of people post a lot without being understood. Why is it that a person can use a few key words and it's a big deal? And before you ask... no, I'm not going to break his post down anylonger. The one time on the moved post was just to prove a simple point.
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It's simply an attempt to enlighten the poor misguided soul, so hopefully the place doesn't turn into the swill we see on so many other boards.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=163009.msg2294260#msg2294260
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It's simply an attempt to enlighten the poor misguided soul, so hopefully the place doesn't turn into the swill we see on so many other boards.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=163009.msg2294260#msg2294260
Admitting you don't know would have been easier. :-*
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Judi has goldfish!! :D
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I am with Jag 100% on this one.
I am of the belief that if we had less Men posting on here with comments just to get people upset we might actually attract a few more females. But (some) boys will be boys and if they can't troll in our sandbox they complain about censorship.
Since this board was set up for the WOMEN we shouldn't have to ignore the idiots on here who just post to get certain people riled up, they should go troll elsewhere.
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I am with Jag 100% on this one.
I am of the belief that if we had less Men posting on here with comments just to get people upset we might actually attract a few more females. But (some) boys will be boys and if they can't troll in our sandbox they complain about censorship.
Since this board was set up for the WOMEN we shouldn't have to ignore the idiots on here who just post to get certain people riled up, they should go troll elsewhere.
Funny thing is I think the ratio of men posting here is more than women anyway
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Funny thing is I think the ratio of men posting here is more than women anyway
We want to know what women 'think'.
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Let me get this straight... you are powerless to ignore certain posters so it would be better if they were banned.
I shouldn't have to ignore those threads or comments, as this is not what the board was intended for.
This is a Girls board set up by Ron to try and encourage more women to post on Getbig.
Now it's really nothing more then a place for (some) men to tell women how to act, feel, behave or make them feel worthless.
There were a lot more women posting in the begining then there are now. The board is "broken" in it current state as obviously it isn't working out as was intended. In my opinion the place needs a good cleaning.
Be thankful I am not a Mod here 8)
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We want to know what women 'think'.
I "think" that is fine, but I do not think it is necessary to try and get a female perspective with a post loaded with anal sex comments for example.
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Funny thing is I think the ratio of men posting here is more than women anyway
Totally correct, it is probably 5 to 1 at best.
To encourage more women (which I almost think is a lost cause now) the "trolling" has got to stop.
Getbig is not a women's place. I was one of the ladies in the begining that wanted the men here, I was wrong. Flowers idea of having this board hidden was the correct route. We could discuss whatever and not be worried about it being dragged to other boards or having to hear about how evil and stupid women are.
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I shouldn't have to ignore those threads or comments, as this is not what the board was intended for.
This is a Girls board set up by Ron to try and encourage more women to post on Getbig.
Now it's really nothing more then a place for (some) men to tell women how to act, feel, behave or make them feel worthless.
There were a lot more women posting in the begining then there are now. The board is "broken" in it current state as obviously it isn't working out as was intended. In my opinion the place needs a good cleaning.
Be thankful I am not a Mod here 8)
Interesting... it seems you're saying it's impossible for some people to have a relationship with someone if it's not 100% on their own terms. I wonder what quality of off-line relationships people with this particular quirk have.
Ron could (with a few easy clicks of the mouse) set up an invisible women's forum or one that was restricted to posters who could prove they were women. We all know there isn't enough intrest in non-chippping nail polish to keep such a forum viable. Women already supposedly know what they think so it's perfectly understandable why men would find a women's forum interesting. One of the things you have to realize is that we need each other's perspectives to some extent.
I realize most people are never challenged on anything so it's understandable why Div's can confuse/offend a few. That's not the point at all and this dialogue (from my perspective) only tangentially involves his comments. I'm more curious why some people look for a reason to be unhappy and to what extent the dynamics of on-line relationship difficulties represent off-line scenarios.
I do find your use of the term 'broken' telling.
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Interesting... it seems you're saying it's impossible for some people to have a relationship with someone if it's not 100% on their own terms. I wonder what quality of off-line relationships people with this particular quirk have.
Ron could (with a few easy clicks of the mouse) set up an invisible women's forum or one that was restricted to posters who could prove they were women. We all know there isn't enough intrest in non-chippping nail polish to keep such a forum viable. Women already supposedly know what they think so it's perfectly understandable why men would find a women's forum interesting. One of the things you have to realize is that we need each other's perspectives to some extent.
I realize most people are never challenged on anything so it's understandable why Div's can confuse/offend a few. That's not the point at all and this dialogue (from my perspective) only tangentially involves his comments. I'm more curious why some people look for a reason to be unhappy and to what extent the dynamics of on-line relationship difficulties represent off-line scenarios.
I do find your use of the term 'broken' telling.
I don't have any problem with having discusions, I actually look forward to them. Unfortunately there are too few that actually do try to remain intelligent and don't just troll. You are bright enough to see the obvious differences.
btw my use of the word broken was just that, the literal definition, there is nothing to read into it.
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btw my use of the word broken was just that, the literal definition, there is nothing to read into it.
"Relationship's not about love,Just another Funeral".
I beg to differ. :)
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"Relationship's not about love,Just another Funeral".
I beg to differ. :)
Song lyrics ;)
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go troll elsewhere.
I don't find you worth my time
translation=you don't have an answer to my question so you insult me.
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Whew....interesting thread.
People should be able to post wherever they please. Male or female. We must all remember that this forum is based on people's personal opinions. Just because you don't like what someone has to say or if you don't agree with someone, that doesn't mean that they should be banned or not allowed to post here. That would be biased. As for not enough women posting on here, I think that you can thank the other boards for that. Some of the bashing that has taken place can be very offensive. People calling female bbdr's "men with giant clits", or telling fitness competitors that they have facial hair because of taking too much gas, etc, etc, etc. Thats just simply not right. Division is entitled to his opinion just as I am just as Original Sin is just as Jag is, etc, etc, etc. If there is a true proplem with trolling, PM the individual that you have a problem with and tell them to stop.
PB
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People are allowed to have their own thoughts and opinions, just because they do does not mean they need to share them. The women's area has clear rules and negative attacks are not protected. This is why all the men posting had to read the rules and tell us they would abide by them. Now I am not saying you can't have a disagreement or conflicting opinion-that is fine, it is the way that individuals go about it that is disrespectful and won't be tolerated.
LOL @ PMing an individual and asking them to stop, I wish we all had the maturity level to handle it this way. Unfortunately PB we aren't dealing with 100% mature adults and PMing an individual could result in your PM being posted in numerous other boards so they can bash you there.
You know I love you PB, but you are one of the few who supports and is respectful towards the females on these boards.
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People are allowed to have their own thoughts and opinions, just because they do does not mean they need to share them. The women's area has clear rules and negative attacks are not protected. This is why all the men posting had to read the rules and tell us they would abide by them. Now I am not saying you can't have a disagreement or conflicting opinion-that is fine, it is the way that individuals go about it that is disrespectful and won't be tolerated.
LOL @ PMing an individual and asking them to stop, I wish we all had the maturity level to handle it this way. Unfortunately PB we aren't dealing with 100% mature adults and PMing an individual could result in your PM being posted in numerous other boards so they can bash you there.
You know I love you PB, but you are one of the few who supports and is respectful towards the females on these boards.
There's a thin line between being 'respectful' and encouraging silliness. :) Someone expressing an unpopular opinion is often taken as a direct personal attack. In those cases it seems people are too touchy. Have I pushed the envelope? Yes, LOL! Was amusing myself at an alias' expense.. some older poster took umbrage and sent a polite PM saying I was being mean. Even though my comments were limited to a specific person I had neglected to consider how actual older women might perceive the comments, LOL!
Since the semester is ending.. all my friends are busy, LOL! I am probably a little more annoying than usual because the first line of people to be challenged (for some strange reason they say annoyed... go figure) when get bored feel generous with my help are occupied. :) Only about a week left and I can give you all a break and annoy people at home. :)
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People are allowed to have their own thoughts and opinions, just because they do does not mean they need to share them. The women's area has clear rules and negative attacks are not protected. This is why all the men posting had to read the rules and tell us they would abide by them. Now I am not saying you can't have a disagreement or conflicting opinion-that is fine, it is the way that individuals go about it that is disrespectful and won't be tolerated.
LOL @ PMing an individual and asking them to stop, I wish we all had the maturity level to handle it this way. Unfortunately PB we aren't dealing with 100% mature adults and PMing an individual could result in your PM being posted in numerous other boards so they can bash you there.
You know I love you PB, but you are one of the few who supports and is respectful towards the females on these boards.
Thanks, Jen :)
I try, but in the end its all about simple common courtasy.
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Have I pushed the envelope? Yes, LOL! Was amusing myself at an alias' expense.. some older poster took umbrage and sent a polite PM saying I was being mean. Even though my comments were limited to a specific person I had neglected to consider how actual older women might perceive the comments, LOL!
{giggle} Jake, you are such an incorrigible little shit-disturber! I'd love to take a wooden spoon to your tush!
You're referring to that time when you went after Linda, and I sent you a PM aren't you?
Jake, just how old are you, ...and how old do you think I am? really?
If we met in person, ...my appearance would truly shock you. I'm not as sensitive about my age as you think I am.
I just found your comment towards her, particularly mean spirited, and didn't think there was any valid reason for it.
Since the semester is ending.. all my friends are busy, LOL! I am probably a little more annoying than usual because the first line of people to be challenged (for some strange reason they say annoyed... go figure) when get bored feel generous with my help are occupied. :) Only about a week left and I can give you all a break and annoy people at home. :)
I'll be counting down the days on my calendar. ;)
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{giggle} Jake, you are such an incorrigible little shit-disturber! I'd love to take a wooden spoon to your tush!
You're referring to that time when you went after Linda, and I sent you a PM aren't you?
Jake, just how old are you, ...and how old do you think I am? really?
If we met in person, ...my appearance would truly shock you. I'm not as sensitive about my age as you think I am.
I just found your comment towards her, particularly mean spirited, and didn't think there was any valid reason for it.
I'll be counting down the days on my calendar. ;)
Moi?
I leave here the 23rd, LOL!
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Moi?
I leave here the 23rd, LOL!
The 23rd huh? {sigh} I might miss you... then again, ...I might not. :P :-*
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The 23rd huh? {sigh} I might miss you... then again, ...I might not. :P :-*
Who will correct your errant thought process while I'm preoccupied annoying others visiting family and friends?
"Much to learn, have you."
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Who will correct your errant thought process while I'm preoccupied annoying others visiting family and friends?
"Much to learn, have you."
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/roll_eyes.gif)
{LOUD SIGH}
Somehow, I guess I'll just have to fumble through it like a 9th grader trying to undo his 1st bra strap.
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(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/roll_eyes.gif)
{LOUD SIGH}
Somehow, I guess I'll just have to fumble through it like a 9th grader trying to undo his 1st bra strap.
Don't get too giddy, LOL! There's still a week left.
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To answer DIV...
I know how you are man....but as a PT you should be working on the physical aspects of training & leave your study of psychology of your clients outside of the gym or not at all.
just my opinion
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What you really have to figure out is why Div has you so figured out. Otherwise a word or two wouldn't send you to such a defensive place on an emotional level. Occasionally Div makes an 'analysis'. In general, it's dismissed and quickly forgotten. Then you have the occasions where people get (and stay) upset to such an extent that it's obvious he was dead on. I just find it funny, (in that ironic, twisted way that makes me laugh a bit when bored or my GF is too busy to be annoyed) that the two people who took the greatest umbrage to his observations always assert he is the main reason this board has so few posts.
Personally, I kind of like the 'pear' shape. Rachael Ray, for example is cute as heck.
As far as psych goes... behavior/thought process modification is my area of intrest. :) I'm interested in to what extent people can become keenly aware of when their thought process goes awry and how well they can make alterations once aware of the mis-thought.
Jake,
You're making the mistake of thinking that most people use rationale when reading/replying to posts. That was your first mistake. Secondly, you assumed that most people (females notwithstanding) internalize thought process and behaviour modification through analysis.
Most people don't have the skills, nor volition to do so.
Jake, I'm not defensive on any emotional level.
I just find the guy boring and annoying as heck.
His schtick is staler than month old bread :-\
I'm so boring and annoying that you find time to respond to me.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
That aftertaste in your mouth is the month old bread you just ate.
We're still not at the problem's root, LOL!
If your post is true.... why not just ignore Div's posts? Your behavior isn't congruent with what the post's explanation.
First of all... I'm assuming you're clever enough to scroll past Div's posts so there must be some reason the same statement or three evokes such a strong visceral response. Is it your sense of justice? Is one man's opinion so vile and reeking of testosterone that innocent by-readers need warning? Or is it your that your ego can't handle not being taken seriously by someone you feel more than a little superior to? :)
I'm more curious as to the actual underlying thought process than entertained. Most people never put any thought whatsoever into what they think. There's obviously a reason, I just wonder if you can clearly articulate it.
I see that you, and many others, actually don't 'get' the subtext of his posts. That being said.. tons of people post a lot without being understood. Why is it that a person can use a few key words and it's a big deal? And before you ask... no, I'm not going to break his post down anylonger. The one time on the moved post was just to prove a simple point.
I think we both know what the answer is, Jake.
I don't take Judi seriously and much of her image is simply a facade constructed for ego purposes.
She can't stand someone who doesn't take her as seriously as she takes herself.
Pretentiousness personified.
I "think" that is fine, but I do not think it is necessary to try and get a female perspective with a post loaded with anal sex comments for example.
Amy,
At least you've spoken to me over the phone, so you know I'm the same guy on here as in real life.
I realize most people are never challenged on anything so it's understandable why Div's can confuse/offend a few. That's not the point at all and this dialogue (from my perspective) only tangentially involves his comments. I'm more curious why some people look for a reason to be unhappy and to what extent the dynamics of on-line relationship difficulties represent off-line scenarios.
I do find your use of the term 'broken' telling.
It's more interesting to argue with the topical essence of my posts, than read them for what they are, which takes some level of intelligence.
Even when I say something crude, there is usually something else behind it.
People want their on-line ego taken seriously, not questioned.......but taken at face value.........which I just don't do unless I know the person offline.
I know how you are man....but as a PT you should be working on the physical aspects of training & leave your study of psychology of your clients outside of the gym or not at all.
Kenneth,
I only reveal my analysis to clients who inquire, but over months of training someone three times per week or more, you build a rapport.
I'm a confidant of sorts for some, perhaps a conquest for others....
Regardless, my focus is on their training and getting them results, but like anything, there is a time to be serious and a time to have fun.
Personal training is both.
DIV
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Judi has goldfish!! :D
lolololz
perfect timing !
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Div,
Your post made me wonder: To what extent would you guess internet personalities are taken seriously off-line as 'real' people?
I found the observations about people demanding to be taken seriously and fear of being 'pounded' funny yet thought provoking. In ~flower's~ defense, most women are very sensitive about their body size so it's perfectly understandable why she would be resistant to the idea of having more weight added. :)
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Amy,
At least you've spoken to me over the phone, so you know I'm the same guy on here as in real life.
True, but if posting on a board where those comments will not be appreciated, I think you could show a little restraint without compromising who you are.
:)
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I found the observations about people demanding to be taken seriously and fear of being 'pounded' funny yet thought provoking. In ~flower's~ defense, most women are very sensitive about their body size so it's perfectly understandable why she would be resistant to the idea of having more weight added. :)
More weight added? ???
For as often as you like to mention me in your posts, I am starting to believe you are my top minion.
drkock, flowerite ;D
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More weight added? ???
For as often as you like to mention me in your posts, I am starting to believe you are my top minion.
drkock, flowerite ;D
It was in response to Div's post, LOL! he mentioned your being pounded and I figured you were healthy enough already.
I do find your use of the term flowerite amusing considering who first coined the phrase.
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I do find your use of the term flowerite amusing considering who first coined the phrase.
you did, why do you think I used it. ;D
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you did, why do you think I used it. ;D
I totally get why you wouldn't want weight added to the gluteal region.
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I totally get why you wouldn't want weight added to the gluteal region.
because I have a FAT ASS!!
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Div,
Your post made me wonder: To what extent would you guess internet personalities are taken seriously off-line as 'real' people?
I found the observations about people demanding to be taken seriously and fear of being 'pounded' funny yet thought provoking. In ~flower's~ defense, most women are very sensitive about their body size so it's perfectly understandable why she would be resistant to the idea of having more weight added. :)
Jake,
I call it how I see it as with everything in life.
Some people don't want to hear it, but that doesn't change my opinion.
To your question, I suppose it really depends on what people we are talking about.
I would tend to believe that anyone with common sense would only believe what they see or know to be true of someone, not taking typed words on a screen as gospel.
I've spoken with you several times over the phone and I've even vacationed with Junaid, so I know both of you are very legit sentient beings.
Outside of that, anyone could be anything.
I do know that this "Linda" character who spams the Girl Talk forum seems less and less genuine each passing post, though.
I also wonder about "Al-Gebra".
DIV
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I've even vacationed with Junaid
Where's the pics from that? >:(
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Personal training is both.
DIV
It can also be a liability....same as the Dr/Patient, Student/Teacher relationship
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Jake,
I call it how I see it as with everything in life.
Some people don't want to hear it, but that doesn't change my opinion.
To your question, I suppose it really depends on what people we are talking about.
I would tend to believe that anyone with common sense would only believe what they see or know to be true of someone, not taking typed words on a screen as gospel.
I've spoken with you several times over the phone and I've even vacationed with Junaid, so I know both of you are very legit sentient beings.
Outside of that, anyone could be anything.
I do know that this "Linda" character who spams the Girl Talk forum seems less and less genuine each passing post, though.
I also wonder about "Al-Gebra".
DIV
Div,
Just found your observation interesting and only a few people put it that way. A lot of people demand to be taken seriously on-line. It's only natural to wonder how much of their 'real' personality leaks out in posts. A very controlling guy, for example, is probably dominated by his spouse. A guy who keeps everyone late at work or makes a lot of wrong turns in the car is usually avoiding home.
Some argue that on-line personnas are often an attempt to reconcile off-line issues. I'm curious... to what extent you feel the need to be taken seriously/respected/adored/controlling on-line reflects being ignored/dissed/unloved/controlled off-line?
And, do you feel many people lack a 'voice' off-line? Specifically meaning a method of resolving conflicts with ego intact. Not so much beingin situations where they can't speak up for themselves.
Not sure what the theory would say about IMPD. :)
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Div,
Just found your observation interesting and only a few people put it that way. A lot of people demand to be taken seriously on-line. It's only natural to wonder how much of their 'real' personality leaks out in posts. A very controlling guy, for example, is probably dominated by his spouse. A guy who keeps everyone late at work or makes a lot of wrong turns in the car is usually avoiding home.
Some argue that on-line personnas are often an attempt to reconcile off-line issues. I'm curious... to what extent you feel the need to be taken seriously/respected/adored/controlling on-line reflects being ignored/dissed/unloved/controlled off-line?
And, do you feel many people lack a 'voice' off-line? Specifically meaning a method of resolving conflicts with ego intact. Not so much beingin situations where they can't speak up for themselves.
Not sure what the theory would say about IMPD. :)
I personally have talked to DIV on the phone...& he's a little different how he comes across than on the net...just as I do.
Most of the time..I am completely opposite in person/on the phone than I am on-line.
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who is'nt ?
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I only reveal my analysis to clients who inquire, but over months of training someone three times per week or more, you build a rapport.
I'm a confidant of sorts for some, perhaps a conquest for others....
Regardless, my focus is on their training and getting them results, but like anything, there is a time to be serious and a time to have fun.
Personal training is both.
DIV
I'd appreciate a trainer who took some time to know me.
What drives me and what affects me.
I think it could have potential to help with motivation and focus along with the fact I would feel my trainer had an interest in me and my goals not my money or his next clients appointment.
The "personal" touch is maybe a little more appreciated by women or at least that's
JMHO
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I'd appreciate a trainer who took some time to know me.
What drives me and what affects me.
I think it could have potential to help with motivation and focus along with the fact I would feel my trainer had an interest in me and my goals not my money or his next clients appointment.
The "personal" touch is maybe a little more appreciated by women or at least that's
JMHO
How about a trainer that would like to know EDIT you intimately?
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I'm not the type to get my panties in a bunch when off color remarks are made
I'd have no problem answering
answering him doesn't mean he's getting any it just means I have no issue when asked those things
I think the environment alone allows a wider latitude of acceptance as far as the type of things that are topics of conversation
self-esteem , self-respect , and an open mind can be condusive to a broader range of personalities getting along
he may not want to ask my mate if I'm pale but I wouldn't stop him from trying
I think finesse should be used unless and until the trainer knows the client
hence the term "personal" trainer
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then you'll have no problem
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Where's the pics from that? >:(
I had some issues with my apartment and was in another one for about a month until recently, so getting the pics developed wasn't exactly a priority.
They'll be done soon......
It can also be a liability....same as the Dr/Patient, Student/Teacher relationship
I'm smart enough to know the balance, Kenneth.
Nothing is compromised and I'm not having sex with them.
Some argue that on-line personnas are often an attempt to reconcile off-line issues. I'm curious... to what extent you feel the need to be taken seriously/respected/adored/controlling on-line reflects being ignored/dissed/unloved/controlled off-line?
And, do you feel many people lack a 'voice' off-line? Specifically meaning a method of resolving conflicts with ego intact. Not so much beingin situations where they can't speak up for themselves.
As I said before, Jake, people who don't self monitor their behaviour and the subconcious drives behind it usually seek out other avenues of manifestation. The persona someone projects online in many ways may not be the true self as perceived by others in the real world and the inability for those to reconcile the offline vs. online persona probably leads to the need for an alter-ego.
I personally have talked to DIV on the phone...& he's a little different how he comes across than on the net...just as I do.
Most of the time..I am completely opposite in person/on the phone than I am on-line.
I'm only different because of the times and situations when you've talked to me. A few glasses of wine and a steak and I'd probably be more of what you'd envisioned. Catch me before I'm going to work and I'm a bit more straight and serious.
I'd appreciate a trainer who took some time to know me.
What drives me and what affects me.
I think it could have potential to help with motivation and focus along with the fact I would feel my trainer had an interest in me and my goals not my money or his next clients appointment.
The "personal" touch is maybe a little more appreciated by women or at least that's
The personal touch is appreciated by everyone in my experience. The point is letting a client feel comfortable as to make them receptive to the training. You'll get more results that way with women especially, as opposed to men.
I'm not the type to get my panties in a bunch when off color remarks are made
I'd have no problem answering
answering him doesn't mean he's getting any it just means I have no issue when asked those things
I think the environment alone allows a wider latitude of acceptance as far as the type of things that are topics of conversation
self-esteem , self-respect , and an open mind can be condusive to a broader range of personalities getting along
he may not want to ask my mate if I'm pale but I wouldn't stop him from trying
I think finesse should be used unless and until the trainer knows the client
hence the term "personal" trainer
Once I've trained someone for months, you'd be surprised (or maybe not) at what type of things come up in conversation.
The term "personal" can be pretty deep.....
I don't usually like to train the type of women I'm attracted to (pale) because it's too distracting.
I'd rather train tan blondes with blue eyes because I'd never even think of sex while training them.
DIV
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Div,
Your answer is about what I expected.
What do you think of the IMPD people?
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We want to know what women 'think'.
If you did, you would say it without "" ;)
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If you did, you would say it without "" ;)
You shouldn't be such a cynic.
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Div,
Your answer is about what I expected.
What do you think of the IMPD people?
It's obvious that IMPD is a variation of borderline personality disorder with the more serious cases falling under disassociative identity disorder.
It really depends on the motives and level of obsession the person has with the character they project and to what degree they feel the "need" to convince others.
DIV
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It really depends on the motives and level of obsession the person has with the character they project and to what degree they feel the "need" to convince others.
DIV
Do you also take into consideration how many gimmicks they have ?
I'd think that'd be part of the diagnosis ::)
Can they be thought of as cross posters if they have gimmicks under both sexes ?
curious that's all I'm a reformed lurker not a gimmick
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Do you also take into consideration how many gimmicks they have ?
I'd think that'd be part of the diagnosis ::)
Can they be thought of as cross posters if they have gimmicks under both sexes ?
curious that's all I'm a reformed lurker not a gimmick
I have a hard time believing multiple gimmicks isn't a sign of mental disease.
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my thoughts as well
don't understand the whole idea of not really being authentic either
sort of ties in with another thread > "Do you worry about what others think of you"
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Do you also take into consideration how many gimmicks they have ?
I'd think that'd be part of the diagnosis ::)
Can they be thought of as cross posters if they have gimmicks under both sexes ?
curious that's all I'm a reformed lurker not a gimmick
Once a lurker, always a lurker, IMO.
People who lurk tend not to speak and that in itself makes me wonder.
Gimmicks are only the manifestation of an alternate identity, one that obviously is percieved to be different enough that a different handle is needed.
That speaks to DID.
DIV