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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The Squadfather on October 23, 2007, 03:53:24 PM
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the competitors looked like this?
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not anymore popular to be honest.....
let me tell you the #1 reason bodybuilding isn't as popular as it could/should be.... HOMOPHOBIA.
people are afraid that if they follow bodybuilding (looking and comparing men's near-naked physiques) others will see them as gay.
that and the drugs.
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not anymore popular to be honest.....
let me tell you the #1 reason bodybuilding isn't as popular as it could/should be.... HOMOPHOBIA.
people are afraid that if they follow bodybuilding (looking and comparing men's near-naked physiques) others will see them as gay.
that and the drugs.
sounds like a personal issue to me, if you suck dick you suck dick doesn't matter if you follow bodybuilding or not, you're comfortable with who you are aren't you?
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probably not much, the only difference the common person would see between that pic of bob choick and ronnie coleman is the fact that one is white and one is black.
remember this is a society that considers brad pitt 'ripped and built'
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it would be even more popular if they looked like this....
(http://www.deagle.co.uk/gallery/images/casta/main_page/1.jpg)
;D
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no because straight guys are sooooo scared of other people accusing them of being queer that the will automatically blow off bodybuilding as gay...
how many young guys lift in the USA... MILLIONS and MILLIONS.... how many will actually admit to follow bodybuilding.... a fraction of that. the gay issue...
i'm not saying bodybuilding is gay.... i'm saying people are scared to admit they follow bodybuilding because then they will look gay to others.
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people are afraid that if they follow bodybuilding (looking and comparing men's near-naked physiques) others will see them as gay.
yeah, funny how that works.
anyway, bodybuilding wasn't much more popular when the guys did look like that. even then it was basically riding off of arnold. the problem is that while arnie was a freak, he was 235 and 6'2". huge, but human. he could be in a movie at that size and just look like a very big dude. even guys like bob and rory are at a freakish level of size that just look like a rhino to most people. don't forget that the male ideal went away from the arnie/vandamme mold a while ago.
it also doesn't help that bodybuilding isn't a test of athleticism or skill, just parading around nearly nude for men to judge. plus have you actually seen a show? jeezus it's boring. that's why WSM can have marathons, because it's fast, exciting, and an actual contest. who the fuck wants to sit and watch 23 guys post for four hours?
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the competitors looked like this?
rory>paris in that pic
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i would like to see a talent show
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rory>paris in that pic
Rory looks unfucckingreal in that shot, perfection.
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who the fuck wants to sit and watch 23 guys post for four hours?
most of us do that here on a daily basis!
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Any old timers have an idea how many people attended pro bodybuilding shows back in the day? It'd be interesting to compare the attendance pre-Pumping Iron, after Pumping Iron and into the 80's and 90's. I assume that the audiences were much larger during the late 70s and 80s and have tapered off to almost nothing now. Certainly is hard to sell bodybuilding to people when you have freaky unnatural physiques like Yates, Coleman and Cutler.
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Bodybuilding would be no more popular than it is now. I think the only way its gonna get anymore popular is if you show people what the can do with that physique. Just to look big isnt enough for most people. They would say "wow, he's big but is he strong?" Feats of strength as a part of the judging would be awesome!
Just my 2 cents.
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Bodybuilding would be no more popular than it is now. I think the only way its gonna get anymore popular is if you show people what the can do with that physique. Just to look big isnt enough for most people. They would say "wow, he's big but is he strong?" Feats of strength as a part of the judging would be awesome!
Just my 2 cents.
it used to be like that in the old AAU shows with guys like Grimek doing some Olympic lifts along with the posing.
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Rory looks unfucckingreal in that shot, perfection.
yeah def amazing. better than cutler.
to bad rory fucked up his dieting so many times tho!
he lost too much muscle when dieting + came in smooth too many competitions
rory overdid his training and diet....way too much!
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it used to be like that in the old AAU shows with guys like Grimek doing some Olympic lifts along with the posing.
Really?! Never knew that, got vids?
I'm telling you, most people think that these are guys full of drugs and can barely move so their size becomes worthless. Feats of strength, thats where its at!
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Really?! Never knew that, got vids?
I'm telling you, most people think that these are guys full of drugs and can barely move so their size becomes worthless. Feats of strength, thats where its at!
nah no video we're talking about the 40's and 50's but those guys were easily as strong as they looked.
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Bodybuilding would be no more popular than it is now. I think the only way its gonna get anymore popular is if you show people what the can do with that physique. Just to look big isnt enough for most people. They would say "wow, he's big but is he strong?" Feats of strength as a part of the judging would be awesome!
Just my 2 cents.
bodybuilding will never be a huge "sport"...it would be more popular if the physiques looked more attainable (...altho they wouldnt be for most people).
more attainable physiques are more inspirational.
to be honest i dont care tho..as i will never attend a bodybuilding show again.
most bodybuilders look better 5 weeks out from a show.
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nah no video we're talking about the 40's and 50's but those guys were easily as strong as they looked.
There was video back then :D.
But I get ya. Too bad, I would like to see something like that happen.
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There was video back then :D.
But I get ya. Too bad, I would like to see something like that happen.
If I remember correctly, in the AAU back then it was a double deal, weightlifting and bodybuilding combined to give you a score.
Jason
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If I remember correctly, in the AAU back then it was a double deal, weightlifting and bodybuilding combined to give you a score.
Jason
exactly right.
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that first picture is describe by 1 word and 1 word only: PERFECTION 8)
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it also doesn't help that bodybuilding isn't a test of athleticism or skill, just parading around nearly nude for men to judge. plus have you actually seen a show? jeezus it's boring. that's why WSM can have marathons, because it's fast, exciting, and an actual contest. who the fuck wants to sit and watch 23 guys post for four hours?
That's it right there.
BBing is as boring as fuck. Even if you buy into it(I do) you have to admit a contest is corny as hell.
I didn't even make it straight thru the "o" webcast, I started doing BILLS :P
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no because straight guys are sooooo scared of other people accusing them of being queer that the will automatically blow off bodybuilding as gay...
how many young guys lift in the USA... MILLIONS and MILLIONS.... how many will actually admit to follow bodybuilding.... a fraction of that. the gay issue...
i'm not saying bodybuilding is gay.... i'm saying people are scared to admit they follow bodybuilding because then they will look gay to others.
You, sir, are smarter than the average bear. Here is an example...
i remember at my old apartment i used to have a poster of ronnie and arnold,, when people looked at the arnold one they were like ''that dudes jacked'' then when they looked at the ronnie one they would call me a fag for having that on my wall.. i had to take ronnie down..
call me a homophobe or whatever you want,,but you wont catch me watching too many bodybuilding shows. dudes twirling around in thongs is not something i want to look at. i like watching them train, but striated glutes is not my thing. with the bigger posing trunks they used to wear, it makes bodybuilding look like an artform.. when you have a thong wedged up your asshole is more like gay porno.
You are a hypocrite and a coward to boot.
You obviously had no problem with the Coleman poster when you went to the trouble of obtaining it and hung it on your wall. Day after day you looked at it and obviously admired it. Only after your guests called you a fag did you decide that you “had to take Ronnie down.”
I’m sure you will still watch body building shows/videos; you just won’t do it in front of your friends.
I suggest you save up your allowance and go buy a backbone when you have enough money. Better yet, track down your guests and ask them if you can have your manhood back; they obviously took it with them when they left. :-[
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no because straight guys are sooooo scared of other people accusing them of being queer that the will automatically blow off bodybuilding as gay...
how many young guys lift in the USA... MILLIONS and MILLIONS.... how many will actually admit to follow bodybuilding.... a fraction of that. the gay issue...
i'm not saying bodybuilding is gay.... i'm saying people are scared to admit they follow bodybuilding because then they will look gay to others.
Speak for yourself. I'm not scared to let anyone know i'm into bodybuilding, I actually tell people they should get into it (natural) and watch the olympia with me when it's on. I'm never accused of being gay because I'm obviously straight and have agirlfriend. Not to mentipn I look at women like their pieces of meat all the time.
I feel bad for you man I bet you're scared to admit you like certain music because others don't. Don't worry about other peoples opinion so much. In the end nothing matters anyways.
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Speak for yourself. I'm not scared to let anyone know i'm into bodybuilding, I actually tell people they should get into it (natural) and watch the olympia with me when it's on. I'm never accused of being gay because I'm obviously straight and have agirlfriend. Not to mentipn I look at women like their pieces of meat all the time.
I feel bad for you man I bet you're scared to admit you like certain music because others don't. Don't worry about other peoples opinion so much. In the end nothing matters anyways.
your problem is that you are an idiot and have horrible reading comprehension..... the thread asked why is bodybuilding not as popular as it could be (in the general population) NOT why i don't follow bodybuilding. I'm not homophobic because no man no matter how muscled and how jacked will turn me away from women... so following bodybuilding for me is no problem and me telling people i do is no problem either.
BODYBUILDING IS NOT POPULAR BECAUSE THE AVERAGE AMERICAN FRAT BOY IS AFRAID HIS FRIENDS WILL CALL HIM GAY IF HE WATCHES IT ON TV WHILE INSIDE HE KNOWS ALL THE BODYBUILDERS NAMES AND WOULD DIE TO LOOK LIKE DEX/WOLFE/OLD CUTLER. WHATEVER.... AMERICANS ARE INTENSLY HOMOPHOBIC.
you are also confident enough in your own heterosexuality to not have a problem with bodybuilding. good for you. now go work on your reading skills moron.
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your problem is that you are an idiot and have horrible reading comprehension..... the thread asked why is bodybuilding not as popular as it could be (in the general population) NOT why i don't follow bodybuilding. I'm not homophobic because no man no matter how muscled and how jacked will turn me away from women... so following bodybuilding for me is no problem and me telling people i do is no problem either.
BODYBUILDING IS NOT POPULAR BECAUSE THE AVERAGE AMERICAN FRAT BOY IS AFRAID HIS FRIENDS WILL CALL HIM GAY IF HE WATCHES IT ON TV WHILE INSIDE HE KNOWS ALL THE BODYBUILDERS NAMES AND WOULD DIE TO LOOK LIKE DEX/WOLFE/OLD CUTLER. WHATEVER.... AMERICANS ARE INTENSLY HOMOPHOBIC.
you are also confident enough in your own heterosexuality to not have a problem with bodybuilding. good for you. now go work on your reading skills moron.
Ouch! :-[
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it also doesn't help that bodybuilding isn't a test of athleticism or skill, just parading around nearly nude for men to judge. plus have you actually seen a show? jeezus it's boring. that's why WSM can have marathons, because it's fast, exciting, and an actual contest. who the fuck wants to sit and watch 23 guys post for four hours?
Good Point ! I'll be attending my Girlfriend's Bodybuilding Show this Weekend in Chicago ... I LOVE supporting Her and LOVE seeing Her on Stage, but GODDAMN !! Bodybuilding Shows are VERY LONG and VERY BORING ! Not only that, but there's NOTHING ( for the most part ) but Egotistical Idiots in the Audience, quite literally, SCREAMING at the top of their Lungs Bullshit things ... very, VERY annoying to say the least. My Favorite part is usually the Guest Posing ( except when it's Victor Martinez Guest Posing ) AND the part where me and my Girlfriend leave to PIG OUT !! :D
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Imagine the popularity bodybuilding would have without the internet. It would be even lower than what it is now.
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yeah def amazing. better than cutler.
to bad rory fucked up his dieting so many times tho!
he lost too much muscle when dieting + came in smooth too many competitions
rory overdid his training and diet....way too much!
I know for a fact it wasn't his diet, there were other reasons for him coming in smooth.
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the competitors looked like this?
those top 2 are the ideal muscular physiqe,,you cant get better than this when it comes to attractive muscle,,
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=177162.0;attach=206265;image)
That was the past. But the future is standing right here before you and he will not be denied:
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/500/-FrtDblBi-.JPG)
You're looking at the 2009 Nationals champ bitches!
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Musclegallery.com
That is where all of the hotboys, up and coming pros are.
No pregnant bellies and sexy as hell(from a woman's perspective)
So, If I love this site....does that make me a "schmoe"?
lol...I love hot looking men with muscles.
Sandra
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I know for a fact it wasn't his diet, there were other reasons for him coming in smooth.
ok whats the real reason for the smoothness?
you cant deny that he often lost too much muscle when dieting tho!
rory could have been even better!
the guy overdid his training like so many guys in the 80s.
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Musclegallery.com
That is where all of the hotboys, up and coming pros are.
No pregnant bellies and sexy as hell(from a woman's perspective)
So, If I love this site....does that make me a "schmoe"?
lol...I love hot looking men with muscles.
Sandra
no sandra..it makes you a schmoette ;)
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yeah, funny how that works.
anyway, bodybuilding wasn't much more popular when the guys did look like that. even then it was basically riding off of arnold. the problem is that while arnie was a freak, he was 235 and 6'2". huge, but human. he could be in a movie at that size and just look like a very big dude. even guys like bob and rory are at a freakish level of size that just look like a rhino to most people. don't forget that the male ideal went away from the arnie/vandamme mold a while ago.
it also doesn't help that bodybuilding isn't a test of athleticism or skill, just parading around nearly nude for men to judge. plus have you actually seen a show? jeezus it's boring. that's why WSM can have marathons, because it's fast, exciting, and an actual contest. who the fuck wants to sit and watch 23 guys post for four hours?
You mean that bodybuilding doesn't take time, effort (physically and mentally), MONEY? Bodybuilding is the only sport in which everyday is a test, one of the most beautiful sports out there.
As for the "parade", athletes show the crowd what they have worked for (although judging is fucked on personal opinion and not on true criteria)...
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You mean that bodybuilding doesn't take time, effort (physically and mentally), MONEY? Bodybuilding is the only sport in which everyday is a test, one of the most beautiful sports out there.
As for the "parade", athletes show the crowd what they have worked for (although judging is fucked on personal opinion and not on true criteria)...
I think what he is getting at is that to win a bodybuilding show it doesn't require any real physical skill or effort (obviously posing requires some effort, but you know what i mean).
If you look at the 2004 Olympia, that format, i feel, was good. The winner of the Olympia came down to the winner of that last pose. Definietly gave it a sense of competition.
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not anymore popular to be honest.....
let me tell you the #1 reason bodybuilding isn't as popular as it could/should be.... HOMOPHOBIA.
people are afraid that if they follow bodybuilding (looking and comparing men's near-naked physiques) others will see them as gay.
that and the drugs.
Ye, the public in general still thinks that tested sports are clean. Such a joke!
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Bodybuilding competition is like a car show...
You work all year long in the gym/garage on your physique/car and prepare it for a show. Then when it's showtime you just put your physique/car out there for others to admire and vote for.
Alot of ppl like nice cars and sometimes have them as wallpaper on their computer screen or hanging on their walls. Many see a car as an object to admire, while a physique can be something sexual.
When i see a nice car i think: it would be nice to have.
When i see a great BBer i think: i want to look like that. Others might want to play with that.
No one sees a nice car and thinks, wow i want to have sex with that car. Then you also have the fact that most ppl don't want to look like bodybuilders.
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The majority of adults think shaving your chest is gay.
Shaving your legs is even worse than that.
IF people could get past that part of the whole thing, you're still going to have a hard time convincing people that paying money to stare at men in thongs and comment on how good they look isn't gay.
That's the facts.
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ok whats the real reason for the smoothness?
you cant deny that he often lost too much muscle when dieting tho!
rory could have been even better!
the guy overdid his training like so many guys in the 80s.
1. It had nothing to do with his training, I was right there with him.
2. No, it wasn't the diet, Jeff Feliciano had him dialed in.
3. Yes, he could have been ALOT better, top 5 Olympia material easily.
4. He lost muscle and was smooth because of his "extra curricular activity's"
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The majority of adults think shaving your chest is gay.
Shaving your legs is even worse than that.
IF people could get past that part of the whole thing, you're still going to have a hard time convincing people that paying money to stare at men in thongs and comment on how good they look isn't gay.
That's the facts.
Then swimmers, sprinters, marathon runners and cyclists must be gay then.
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Bodybuilding competition is like a car show...
You work all year long in the gym/garage on your physique/car and prepare it for a show. Then when it's showtime you just put your physique/car out there for others to admire and vote for.
Alot of ppl like nice cars and sometimes have them as wallpaper on their computer screen or hanging on their walls. Many see a car as an object to admire, while a physique can be something sexual.
When i see a nice car i think: it would be nice to have.
When i see a great BBer i think: i want to look like that. Others might want to play with that.
No one sees a nice car and thinks, wow i want to have sex with that car. Then you also have the fact that most ppl don't want to look like bodybuilders.
cars are sexy.
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1. It had nothing to do with his training, I was right there with him.
2. No, it wasn't the diet, Jeff Feliciano had him dialed in.
3. Yes, he could have been ALOT better, top 5 Olympia material easily.
4. He lost muscle and was smooth because of his "extra curricular activity's"
Joe... can you elaborate on #4?
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Then swimmers, sprinters, marathon runners and cyclists must be gay then.
Yes, if I saw a man commenting on how good a swimmer looked in his speedo, I would assume he was gay.
Cyclists have been gay since the invention of the auto. Anyone who would choose to use an inferior means of travel is clearly a fag.
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Joe... can you elaborate on #4?
Cocain, speed, crosstops.
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crosstops?
I think the oralls is what did a lot of those guys in, They popped them like candy, made the best looking muscles, but it also drove them crazy I believe.
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1. It had nothing to do with his training, I was right there with him.
2. No, it wasn't the diet, Jeff Feliciano had him dialed in.
3. Yes, he could have been ALOT better, top 5 Olympia material easily.
4. He lost muscle and was smooth because of his "extra curricular activity's"
too much training. smoothness. loss of mass.
quaaludes too?
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no because straight guys are sooooo scared of other people accusing them of being queer that the will automatically blow off bodybuilding as gay...
how many young guys lift in the USA... MILLIONS and MILLIONS.... how many will actually admit to follow bodybuilding.... a fraction of that. the gay issue...
i'm not saying bodybuilding is gay.... i'm saying people are scared to admit they follow bodybuilding because then they will look gay to others.
I got ya and that is true in same cases, no doubt. I never got the whole excessive homophobic thing.
I mean c'mon, the worst thing that could happne is the guy wants to blow ya LOL.
Plus, with a lot of gay guys in the gym , you don't have to worry about them hiting on any of the babes, it lowers the odds in your favor.
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It has nothing to do with being homophobic. It's the fact that building muscle is hard and it is much easier to sit around eating and drinking while watching a game.
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Bodybuilding competition is like a car show...
You work all year long in the gym/garage on your physique/car and prepare it for a show. Then when it's showtime you just put your physique/car out there for others to admire and vote for.
Alot of ppl like nice cars and sometimes have them as wallpaper on their computer screen or hanging on their walls. Many see a car as an object to admire, while a physique can be something sexual.
When i see a nice car i think: it would be nice to have.
When i see a great BBer i think: i want to look like that. Others might want to play with that.
No one sees a nice car and thinks, wow i want to have sex with that car. Then you also have the fact that most ppl don't want to look like bodybuilders.
But what does it mean if you have hot butt sex with a bodybuilder in the back seat of a car that was just featured in a car show? ???
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But what does it mean if you have hot butt sex with a bodybuilder in the back seat of a car that was just featured in a car show? ???
I can answer that! ;D
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your problem is that you are an idiot and have horrible reading comprehension..... the thread asked why is bodybuilding not as popular as it could be (in the general population) NOT why i don't follow bodybuilding. I'm not homophobic because no man no matter how muscled and how jacked will turn me away from women... so following bodybuilding for me is no problem and me telling people i do is no problem either.
BODYBUILDING IS NOT POPULAR BECAUSE THE AVERAGE AMERICAN FRAT BOY IS AFRAID HIS FRIENDS WILL CALL HIM GAY IF HE WATCHES IT ON TV WHILE INSIDE HE KNOWS ALL THE BODYBUILDERS NAMES AND WOULD DIE TO LOOK LIKE DEX/WOLFE/OLD CUTLER. WHATEVER.... AMERICANS ARE INTENSLY HOMOPHOBIC.
you are also confident enough in your own heterosexuality to not have a problem with bodybuilding. good for you. now go work on your reading skills moron.
LOL seems as though I made you mad. Have a cookie it might cheer you up. Asshole. hahahaha. My comprehension is great. The thing is, I think the only reason that you thought of this is because it's what your dumbass thought up and has a personal problem with. Nobody else in the world i've met is homophobic. Nobody is scared to admit they like bodybuilding, they just don't like it. It's not because they're scared people will think they're gay (as your retarded theory suggests)
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I think there are a couple of problems.
First off if people who are into the "sport" are complaining about how bad the physiques look then what about American Joe who doesn't know beans about it.
Secondly I think bodybuilding should capitalize on the truth that "SEX SELLS". You guys think it is just homos that like to see half naked muscular men all oiled up. Hello! That's what women go to strip clubs and to Chippendales for (Even though a LOT of those guys are gay)
We have a couple of competitors at my gym and they ALWAYS get a lot of attention from the female persuasion. Some have even attended the shows. So this ain't all about gay boys. I think that argument is null and void.
There is something wrong with the physiques onstage. That is the biggest problem I see.
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I think there are a couple of problems.
First off if people who are into the "sport" are complaining about how bad the physiques look then what about American Joe who doesn't know beans about it.
Secondly I think bodybuilding should capitalize on the truth that "SEX SELLS". You guys think it is just homos that like to see half naked muscular men all oiled up. Hello! That's what women go to strip clubs and to Chippendales for (Even though a LOT of those guys are gay)
We have a couple of competitors at my gym and they ALWAYS get a lot of attention from the female persuasion. Some have even attended the shows. So this ain't all about gay boys. I think that argument is null and void.
There is something wrong with the physiques onstage. That is the biggest problem I see.
gyno, huge guts, varicose veines... what's not to like?
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the question is. what about bodybuilding is NOT strange for the general people.
i mean from the thongs and oiling up to the dancing on stage like a ballerina to music...
also bodybuilders are very intimmidating for most people. and like said all the drugs in the sport doesn't make it better..
well the list can be made looooonnng :)
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rory>paris in that pic
no way.
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I can answer that! ;D
i cannot believe you willingly thrust your penis into mens' assholes, there is nothing on this earth more foul than man ass...gross
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i cannot believe you willingly thrust your penis into mens' assholes, there is nothing on this earth more foul than man ass...gross
I beg to differ. http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=70610.0
I suppose you think nipples, a woman’s ass or a man’s penis is “gross” and kissing “yucky” too? How sexually immature you are. :-[
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I think there are a couple of problems.
First off if people who are into the "sport" are complaining about how bad the physiques look then what about American Joe who doesn't know beans about it.
Secondly I think bodybuilding should capitalize on the truth that "SEX SELLS". You guys think it is just homos that like to see half naked muscular men all oiled up. Hello! That's what women go to strip clubs and to Chippendales for (Even though a LOT of those guys are gay)
We have a couple of competitors at my gym and they ALWAYS get a lot of attention from the female persuasion. Some have even attended the shows. So this ain't all about gay boys. I think that argument is null and void.
There is something wrong with the physiques onstage. That is the biggest problem I see.
I agree and their has been a huge boom of pro pro FIGURE shows as a result. The number of pro figure events held with either NPC shows or as part of an IFBB pro event are in the higher numbers than pro bodybuilding now.
The men's show should reward guys like Dexter, Darrem and Ronnie Rockell.
David Henry is the ideal kind of physique that is massive but has ideal shape and balance.
Sheer mass beyond what is needed to look muscular should not be considered the ideal by the IFBB pro judges.
Look at how great Ronnie looked at 256!
Drug testing would not be an issue if freakish mass were not an advantage to winning shows.
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no way.
paris was good..but rory is better than paris in that pic.
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the competitors looked like this?
In my opinion, those physiques are what bodybuilding should be all about. Bob had some incredible thigh sweep at this best. Rory was good but Bob Paris has one of the all time great asthetic physiques.
Howard
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please forgive my ignorance... but can someone tell me the names of the first two bodybuilders in the picture?
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Cocain, speed, crosstops.
Interesting. I never knew that about Rory.
When I was training with Steve and Samir, Steve really got into Crystal Meth. He was supplying some of the top guys. He gave some to Samir and me once. I absolutely HATED it and never touched it again. It made me my workout was intense but SLOPPY and I was so jittery and didn't sleep that night.
We all know that speed is what messed Mentzer all up.
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please forgive my ignorance... but can someone tell me the names of the first two bodybuilders in the picture?
Rory Liedelmeyer and Bob Paris.