1 yr of lifting (http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Progress/14nJyPCd2c6lrwkwllFkvAebe1AG40498.jpg)
3 years
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7 years
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dat ronnie coolman genetics??
7 years! why not ???
every1 on bodybuilding.com claims natural even 220 5'6 7% ...
Haha, no chance someone with his experience and obvious dedication to weightlifting has stayed out of drugs whole time!! Just no chance.Musclecenter has been training clean for over 40 yrs....
Steroids these days are more commonly used than one would think..
The skin color change is all lightning.
He could be natural, some folks really look into training before they start training. He probably has avoided all sorts of overtraining programs people do in the beginning.
The skin color change is all lightning.Could be, if he followed the Weider principles. Drugs are only the finishing 5% after all..
He could be natural, some folks really look into training before they start training. He probably has avoided all sorts of overtraining programs people do in the beginning.
3 year mark could be clean.
Even 7 year one.
Musclecenter has been training clean for over 40 yrs....
;D
stop reading bb.com or whatever crap you got that from.
Could be, if he followed the Weider principles. Drugs are only the finishing 5% after all..
this negro is on anadrol
I am JUST saying.
If he had trained 15 years, I would believe that he's a natty.... but 7 years, I doubt it because he would have had to be very dedicated to his rest/overtraining avoidance/proper training which usually is unlikely but it does happend.
Either way I'm not losing my sleep. He could be natural, or not.
dude 15 or 7 it doesn't matter, after 3-5 years of serious natural training nothing will happen as far lbm is concerned....anyways he wasn't clean after 3 years. this guy has been hormonized for several years.Up his ass is more likely...
gotta be realistic dude
this guy is probably over at bb.com claiming he built his mass using up the mass or some other shit ::)
I am JUST saying.
If he had trained 15 years, I would believe that he's a natty.... but 7 years, I doubt it because he would have had to be very dedicated to his rest/overtraining avoidance/proper training which usually is unlikely but it does happend.
Either way I'm not losing my sleep. He could be natural, or not.
You're not going to make a lot of progress after 7 years of consistent and dedicated lifting.
I don't really know anyone who has made big improvements after let's say lifting seriously for 5 years - after that you've built your foundation and you'll just be able to do minor changes to your physique mostly in terms of bodyfat percentage but not real muscular gain.
Eventually a natural will start to decline after lifting for a very long time ... natural hormone levels dropping , maybe some injuries preventing from real heavy lifting etc..
With that said I doubt the guy is natural but he's got a good body and probably very good genes for building muscle.. and with natural freaks like adrain around I would not put my money on it.
I hope you were being sarcastic when you said that adrain is a natural freak! :-\ :-\
you guys have got to be fucking kiding me :o :o :o :o :o :o...
most people don't even start gaining good muscle untill 7 years of lifting because they train like shit.
To think that this guy has trained sufficiently and correctly for 7 years I have no reason to doubt his natural status.
However, if he has been doing all the mistakes i have done in training and he looks like that, then I raise my eyebrow, no matter how black he is.
Lol he's definitely natural ::). Here we go again kids... Let me explain how the next 4 pages of threads will go:
- It'll start just like this by pointing out the obvious that he is indeed not natural.
- GetBigs natural all stars will all come swarming like sharks with blood in the water explaining that everyone who thinks he isn't natural is just lazy and that this physique can easily be achieved but that guys on gear just don't understand because they don't diet or train nearly as hard as any of they do.
- Then the gh15 crew will come in and bring up about 100 fairly decent points with pictures to back them including the obvious liar Layne Norton.
- Arguments between the gh15 crew and natural all stars will then continue about what genetic potential really is, what the meaning of "natural" really is, and how there are actually a few natural "exceptions" out there and somehow every natural thinks they are that exception.
- Now in comes gh15. He will make solid points by pointing out different things in the photo that clearly point to drug use.
- Natural all stars are now furious. their god Layne Norton has been smited and now a posting argument between all of them and gh15 ensues.
- Eventually, gh15 gets tired of responding to the usual BS and stops. A few more comments are made and the thread dies out...
End this thread now... until next time GetBiggers!!!
you guys have got to be fucking kiding me :o :o :o :o :o :o...
most people don't even start gaining good muscle untill 7 years of lifting because they train like shit.
To think that this guy has trained sufficiently and correctly for 7 years I have no reason to doubt his natural status.
However, if he has been doing all the mistakes i have done in training and he looks like that, then I raise my eyebrow, no matter how black he is.
We are starting to enter the BOLD area of what I outlines... to be continued... keep going guys, this never gets old... Why do we all care so much about who's natural and who's not?? Is it to inspire the natural guys so they can continue to hope that they'll look like a juicer without juice?? Not sure... let's keep going and find out lol
some guys want to believe so badly that anything is possible as a natural as long as you train for many years
3-5 years of serious training (year 1-3 90%..3-5 99%) and you have basically maxed out your lean body mass...you can diet and gain fat etc but you aint growing
i know people who think they are making gains after 10 years of training ::)...they may be able to get stronger but they aint growing.
Sure beginners usually do make a lot of mistakes but the guys who stick with it for years usually start to read up on training and nutrition after a while. And even the worst training will still put on a lot of muscle on someone who was just born to be big and muscular while even the best routines and scientific approaches are not going to turn someone who was not meant to be big into anything impressive physique wise... so in my opinion genetic matters way more than your workouts or nutrition as long as you train hard and eat enough.
you live in lala land.
notice i said 3-5 years of serious training
you guys have got to be fucking kiding me :o :o :o :o :o :o...
most people don't even start gaining good muscle untill 7 years of lifting because they train like shit.
To think that this guy has trained sufficiently and correctly for 7 years I have no reason to doubt his natural status.
However, if he has been doing all the mistakes i have done in training and he looks like that, then I raise my eyebrow, no matter how black he is.
some guys want to believe so badly that anything is possible as a natural as long as you train for many years
3-5 years of serious training (year 1-3 90%..3-5 99%) and you have basically maxed out your lean body mass...you can diet and gain fat etc but you aint growing
i know people who think they are making gains after 10 years of training ::)...they may be able to get stronger but they aint growing.
You also have to remember it depends the age when he started. In your 30's, your muscles take on a different look (i guess muscle maturity), so if he has been training since mid 20's and is now in his 30's, and his muscles are really starting to develop, then its plausible he is natural. If he was like 21 and looked like this, then id say 100% drugs!
you can't prove either way in his case. I don't care which is true.
He could be natural, some folks really look into training before they start training. He probably has avoided all sorts of overtraining programs people do in the beginning.
I didn't say EVERYTHING is possible for naturals ::). I'm just saying he may be natural, PERIOD! You're just babling "lalalalaal" at this point. It's allways weird how someone is dedicating time to convinse a stranger in a getbig forum that NONONO HE USES DRUGS, I INSIST! What the fuck, man!
Exactly.
Yeah your word is all I need, tsssh ::)
you can't prove either way in his case. I don't care which is true. If he is on some cycle. Great. If he is natural. Great. No difference to me.
1 yr of lifting (http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Progress/14nJyPCd2c6lrwkwllFkvAebe1AG40498.jpg)
Should be 70-80% of max gains aka most noob gains yet he looks like a skinny twink
3 years
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Progress/1AoYbnjZ0gnVnAhuCwcV6yUubM1C0i1330.jpg)
Yet 3years later everything 2x as big. As natural as a gay guy getting anally fisted to death at a gay orgy.
dat ronnie coolman genetics??
Lol he's definitely natural ::). Here we go again kids... Let me explain how the next 4 pages of threads will go:
- It'll start just like this by pointing out the obvious that he is indeed not natural.
- GetBigs natural all stars will all come swarming like sharks with blood in the water explaining that everyone who thinks he isn't natural is just lazy and that this physique can easily be achieved but that guys on gear just don't understand because they don't diet or train nearly as hard as any of they do.
- Then the gh15 crew will come in and bring up about 100 fairly decent points with pictures to back them including the obvious liar Layne Norton.
- Arguments between the gh15 crew and natural all stars will then continue about what genetic potential really is, what the meaning of "natural" really is, and how there are actually a few natural "exceptions" out there and somehow every natural thinks they are that exception.
- Now in comes gh15. He will make solid points by pointing out different things in the photo that clearly point to drug use.
- Natural all stars are now furious. their god Layne Norton has been smited and now a posting argument between all of them and gh15 ensues.
- Eventually, gh15 gets tired of responding to the usual BS and stops. A few more comments are made and the thread dies out...
End this thread now... until next time GetBiggers!!!
You also have to remember it depends the age when he started. In your 30's, your muscles take on a different look (i guess muscle maturity), so if he has been training since mid 20's and is now in his 30's, and his muscles are really starting to develop, then its plausible he is natural. If he was like 21 and looked like this, then id say 100% drugs!
utter crap
How should a natural train?
That was utter crap? Ok, you're a gimmick, you have to be :D
You're some sort of "Galvatron" who tryes to be smart and knowledgable and you have that "galvatron" avatar. So don't worry about the kids reading this page because they allready laughed at you.
you have seriously no clue what you are talking about.
22, 27 or 34 he ain't natural.
after 3-5 years of training you ain't growing.
after 3-5 years of training you ain't growing.
Give me scientific proof and don't copy paste anything, give me your own words... I'm waiting..
utter crap
I really doubt it. After 3 years a trainer has just build the work capacity to do some real, heavy duty liftin'!
Devilsmile the skinny twink you're right he's natural.
hahaha, sure! ::) ::)
there is definitely a different look from a 35 year old body to a 21 year old body. Its just the way it is. Most 21 year olds are not going to have the muscularity of a 35 year old. Its simple biology.
that is not the (my) point you idiot
I don't know IS he natural! But the thread was started like; "Look, this guy claims to be natural, but he is not because I are from galaxy negulibra ugatron! Hear my truth!"
"HE IS NOT NATURAL, OK LOCK THIS THREAD NOW SO THAT NOONE CAN REPLY!", fuck I care if he is or not. I told you! I spesificly stated that he could be natural and explained how could that be the case, or he could be on whatever shit, I do not care :P !
um yes it is! my point was that it is more plausible that a 35 year old can look like that naturally compared to a 21 year old. You seemed to have missed the point, you idiot.
um yes it is! my point was that it is more plausible that a 35 year old can look like that naturally compared to a 21 year old. You seemed to have missed the point, you idiot.
okay, so then please explicitly explain YOUR point1
A bigger guy told me in the gym, that the best gains he got was when he was in his 30's. The "base" is actually all the years you have trained when you were younger, but the muscle maturity comes into play when you're 30.
That's what he said. Galvatron does not CAAAARE what I believe in, but he tryes to convinse me to think like he does, only at 100 and so posts. He is new to the internet, lets just give him this debate.
A bigger guy told me in the gym, that the best gains he got was when he was in his 30's. The "base" is actually all the years you have trained when you were younger, but the muscle maturity comes into play when you're 30.
That's what he said. Galvatron does not CAAAARE what I believe in, but he tryes to convinse me to think like he does, only at 100 and so posts. He is new to the internet, lets just give him this debate.
the amount of effort it takes to keep growing after 5 years of serious training isn't even worth it. you are already at 90% of your genetic max at that point and your body is resisting putting on any more muscle so you would need perfect diet, training and complete dedication in order to put on the extra 1 pound of lbm over the course of the entire year. that's not even a measurable amount but requires buddhist monk like dedication to lifting every day with perfect diet - no one does that who isn't already on gear
A bigger guy told me in the gym, that the best gains he got was when he was in his 30's. The "base" is actually all the years you have trained when you were younger, but the muscle maturity comes into play when you're 30.
That's what he said. Galvatron does not CAAAARE what I believe in, but he tryes to convinse me to think like he does, only at 100 and so posts. He is new to the internet, lets just give him this debate.
Can you provide any support of this claim?
the guy is just lying to himself...either he got fat or he dieted down which gave the illusion that he was bigger. he surely wasn't gaining lean mass as a natural if he had been training seriously for many years. lots of people like to lie to themselves in this way tho.
or he forgot to mention to you all the drugs he is taking.
yeah, if you can suck my dick
Lol he's definitely natural ::). Here we go again kids... Let me explain how the next 4 pages of threads will go:
- It'll start just like this by pointing out the obvious that he is indeed not natural.
- GetBigs natural all stars will all come swarming like sharks with blood in the water explaining that everyone who thinks he isn't natural is just lazy and that this physique can easily be achieved but that guys on gear just don't understand because they don't diet or train nearly as hard as any of they do.
- Then the gh15 crew will come in and bring up about 100 fairly decent points with pictures to back them including the obvious liar Layne Norton.
- Arguments between the gh15 crew and natural all stars will then continue about what genetic potential really is, what the meaning of "natural" really is, and how there are actually a few natural "exceptions" out there and somehow every natural thinks they are that exception.
- Now in comes gh15. He will make solid points by pointing out different things in the photo that clearly point to drug use.
- Natural all stars are now furious. their god Layne Norton has been smited and now a posting argument between all of them and gh15 ensues.
- Eventually, gh15 gets tired of responding to the usual BS and stops. A few more comments are made and the thread dies out...
End this thread now... until next time GetBiggers!!!
Oh brotha! So, get into a debate, then when asked for proof, attack person. Yeah, so awesome. :-\ :-\
A perfectly reasonable claim in my humble opinion.the real question is why do they care... randomly surfing the net for guy who say there are natural then reposting the pics on these forms
im the first guy that will point out a liar, but this guy has a natural look to him. The last pic in the gym he deff has a pump. Could be natural If hes 5-11 or taller. Many of u havnt trained hard naturally with a good diet for for 7 years.
1 yr of lifting (http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Progress/14nJyPCd2c6lrwkwllFkvAebe1AG40498.jpg)
3 years
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Progress/1AoYbnjZ0gnVnAhuCwcV6yUubM1C0i1330.jpg)
7 years
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Progress/IMG-20111015-00183.jpg)
dat ronnie coolman genetics??
Guy looks average for a black person. Why the fuck do you fucktards believe this is impossible to achieve naturally? Barely even has abs lol. These are average negro genetics.
That last pic is a pussy slaying physique. Respect goes out to him even if he is a dirty liar.
you have seriously no clue what you are talking about.That is an emphatic statement, it could even be a "dogma" of sorts.
22, 27 or 34 he ain't natural.
after 3-5 years of training you ain't growing.
That is an emphatic statement, it could even be a "dogma" of sorts.
And you know that after 3-5 yrs of training, a person is NOT going to grow anymore?
I want to see the data to support this. Case studies, done on various diff people.
Maybe you didn't grow anymore.
fuck people on here are stupid, everyone claiming he isnt natural because he gained a couple of pounds in 7 years.
this look could be attained naturally in 7 years. im NOT saying he is natural i have no idea who the guy is and what if anything he is using, but this look could be achieved within 7 years of HARD training and proper EATING.
fuck people on here are stupid, everyone claiming he isnt natural because he gained a couple of pounds in 7 years. i sometimes wonder if anyone on here has actually trained clean before getting on the gear. or if people actually know how to train and diet correctly. this look could be attained naturally in 7 years. im NOT saying he is natural i have no idea who the guy is and what if anything he is using, but this look could be achieved within 7 years of HARD training and proper EATING.thank u.... I agree
thank u.... I agreefinally someone with a bit of brains, if always gets me when someone posts a pic and everyone comes roaring out saying he is on this and on that. i really believe that there is a very very small group on here that actually train and eat and see results, the rest must just be wasting there time
As natural as a gay guy getting anally fisted to death at a gay orgy.
That is an emphatic statement, it could even be a "dogma" of sorts.
And you know that after 3-5 yrs of training, a person is NOT going to grow anymore?
I want to see the data to support this. Case studies, done on various diff people.
Maybe you didn't grow anymore.
I'm bigger and more muscular than him so i don't care;D
Yawn ! I wish men would stop saying other men have 'pussy slaying physique's' ::).This place gets gayer everyday
He doesn't progress at an astonishing rate from year 1 to 7. The pics were taken with full pumps. Not ripped, not even well conditioned. I'm not saying he's natural but I've seen black guys look far better that are natural. His formarms, traps, other visible bodyparts don't have that thick look you need drugs for. For the guys saying looking this good is impossible without drugs, learn how to train and stop reading all the nonsense chewed out by bodybuilding establishment (their goal is to get you to buy supps, looking for the 'secret').
You can post a pic of Christian Bale from The Machinist and some genius here will claim he's taking gear for all that mass.
bad example..as christian bale is a drug user.
"gear for all that mass" => drugs to attain that size. Not talking about rec drugs or his condition, just the size.
he has used hormones to add mass and get in shape for movies...same as many other hollywood stars.
He doesn't progress at an astonishing rate from year 1 to 7. The pics were taken with full pumps. Not ripped, not even well conditioned. I'm not saying he's natural but I've seen black guys look far better that are natural. His formarms, traps, other visible bodyparts don't have that thick look you need drugs for. For the guys saying looking this good is impossible without drugs, learn how to train and stop reading all the nonsense chewed out by bodybuilding establishment (their goal is to get you to buy supps, looking for the 'secret').
I know that, I'm not naive. Can't you see from The Machinist reference that I'm saying some people here claim even the smallest of guys use drugs to get that "big"?
yes, you (some) can build a good physique with zero drugs.
Not according to the "experts" here. The ones that started juicing 3 months after they started lifting and the ones with the shittiest genetics are the experts who know what's possible and what's not, lol.
Not according to the "experts" here. The ones that started juicing 3 months after they started lifting and the ones with the shittiest genetics are the experts who know what's possible and what's not, lol.
Actually all the guys that "juice" here have very impressive builds, moron.
Yeah, like Arvilla, Billy Guns and lots more right? You haven't seen all of the guys here that juice yet, shit for brains.
And don't call me moron - I'm not your father.
You names 2 outcasts in their mid 30s who suck at life. My guess is you live in the middle of nowhere america, really i wonder what your life consists of you have nearly 20000 posts on a bodybuilding board yet you refute the use of hormones im recreational lifters. Please go hang yourself "kiwiol"
Yawn ! I wish men would stop saying other men have 'pussy slaying physique's' ::).This place gets gayer everyday
Don't live in America and I disproved your stupid post that EVERYONE who juices looks great. I never said that rec lifters don't do drugs, just saying not every single one of them is on it. And that's not a reference to guys like Layne Norton or whoever. You're typical of the idiots who claim to know what someone is using by just looking at their pics and always gets it wrong, just like your analysis of me.
Maybe you should stop parroting gh15 and get the IOC to employ you and your amazing talent - they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars testing athletes for drugs and you can save them all that money by simply looking at the athlete and saying what they're on.
And I won't hang myself - who's gonna fuck your mom in the ass if I do? ;D
Lol europeans still using the same humor we used in elementary school. Listen buddy, get a life. Go watch ur batman collection and play with your action figures while rallying up your impressive post count. Verdict: Kiwiols a fag becase he has 85000 posts and not one pic
Of himself and the negro is not a lifetime natural. Case closed
Wrong again and on all counts at that. Impressive, but not surprising. Case closed indeed :D
And if we're telling each other what to do, go read your bible and stick another injection into your ass, meathead.
Lol im natural pal. I just like to weed out the liars. Now this dudes picture we are discussing can most certainly be natural if it werent for the excessively thick veins due to a higher RBC but even though he registers here to post a story about how he is natural instead of just letting it be. Ill give him
The benefit of the doubt since we have gay batman kiwiol protecting his beloved black hero from the big bad darkside. Go eat a dick homo.
I don't give a fuck about the guy in this thread, I was talking about the perception of naturals and you jumped in, getting all butt hurt.
Don't be so angry that I proved you wrong - it's making you confuse me with your dad again, what with the dick munching reference and all that.
Y the fuck do u keep pming me? U look like a fat piece of shit in ur pics. Your porn stash must be impressive because u absolutely get zero pussy. And i got ur mom here right now gagging on my cock while my meathead cousin sticks a monkey wrench in her gaping asshole. homo
1 yr of lifting (http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Progress/14nJyPCd2c6lrwkwllFkvAebe1AG40498.jpg)
3 years
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Progress/1AoYbnjZ0gnVnAhuCwcV6yUubM1C0i1330.jpg)
7 years
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Progress/IMG-20111015-00183.jpg)
dat ronnie coolman genetics??
He is 100% natural. No doubt about it. There is nothing special about this physique. Bernarr Macfadden had 30 lbs more muscle than him in the 19th century when even bull testicle extract didn't exist. He took 7 years to get this physique? He could be bigger.Welcome to Getbig 2011
You morons have no idea what can be achieved naturallly. Just because you go the gym and do a few sets of pec deck flyes, leg extensions and dumbbell laterals with shitty form stopping 3 reps short of failure, and you don't gain any mass, doesen't mean that it isn't possible. Are you aware that you can gain 40 lbs, 50 lbs and in some cases even 60 lbs of lean mass without any AASs? It takes years of consistent training increasing your stength in multijoint exercises that demand a lot of muscle mass to be performed, but it can be done.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
BOOM!! Quote it. No one knows what the fuck he's talking about. Not sayin he's clean or not but it's not so cut and dry like some of you fuckers are saying.
hey- show some fucking respect for the great kiwiol.
and as for the guys natural status, i cant remember if i posted in this thread yet or not about it, but i wouldnt have that difficult a time believing in the pics he has posted if he was using gear he was clean at the time they were taken,.
I can't believe the shit I am reading. There are actually a large amount of idiots saying he is natural. Do you fools not realize there is no different between training 3 years and 10 years naturally? You will look exactly the same. It's called scienceCopy and paste the "science" article
How the fuck could somebody fall out with Kiwiol, he's one of the soundest guys on here. ???
Pictures are getting harder and harder to read. Just like the age of women between 18 and 25. I've seen some pretty big dudes in person who look like complete dog shit in pictures. Some guys at 165 pounds with the right angle and lighting can look much much bigger in pictures than in real life... Example Groinks photo's. However the guy in these photo's is most likely just starting out with hormones. Low level stuff. He's the typical Bench and curls guy who doesn't train his full body. Probably some Test and Dball running thru his veins. Obvious sloppy diet because he has no photo's of a really dieted down physique.isn't that what bbing is about u say right angle and lighting bigger in pics or vice versa small in clothes bigger when shirt off ,,illusion,decieving size ,,many variables.dude has good build,,,how he achieved it is either clean or not and the rest is speculation ,,,he spoke on it and thats his take.
He is 100% natural. No doubt about it. There is nothing special about this physique. Bernarr Macfadden had 30 lbs more muscle than him in the 19th century when even bull testicle extract didn't exist. He took 7 years to get this physique? He could be bigger.
You morons have no idea what can be achieved naturallly. Just because you go the gym and do a few sets of pec deck flyes, leg extensions and dumbbell laterals with shitty form stopping 3 reps short of failure, and you don't gain any mass, doesen't mean that it isn't possible. Are you aware that you can gain 40 lbs, 50 lbs and in some cases even 60 lbs of lean mass without any AASs? It takes years of consistent training increasing your stength in multijoint exercises that demand a lot of muscle mass to be performed, but it can be done.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
isn't that what bbing is about u say right angle and lighting bigger in pics or vice versa small in clothes bigger when shirt off ,,illusion,decieving size ,,many variables.dude has good build,,,how he achieved it is either clean or not and the rest is speculation ,,,he spoke on it and thats his take.
I can't believe the shit I am reading. There are actually a large amount of idiots saying he is natural. Do you fools not realize there is no different between training 3 years and 10 years naturally? You will look exactly the same. It's called science
Yes but he said he isn't a bodybuildertrue ,,and maybe not a competitive bber but still a physique look or goal to achieve.
Those pics are of me. bla bla bla
Cool story bro...did you copy paste Layne Norton speech?
1 Year of Lifting (~190lbs)
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3 Years of Lifting (~205lbs)
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Get%20Big/31.jpg)
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He's the typical Bench and curls guy who doesn't train his full body. Probably some Test and Dball running thru his veins. Obvious sloppy diet because he has no photo's of a really dieted down physique.
Y the fuck did you write so much in ur post. No1 gives a shit
I like how there is no pics that show your gradual progression after year one to year three. Also I like the fact how you blew the fuck up even more past your first year noob gains. What happened bro, steroid acne get out of control? Gyno tits?
I love how everyone just ignored the guys defense speech ;D
Dude your legs are really under developed and u have a high level of chest fat.... U dont look that good...
HA....good enough for you guys to talk about me for 7 pages right? Thought so!
HA....good enough for you guys to talk about me for 7 pages right? Thought so!
Btw, my quads are just under 26 inches and I have long legs so of couse they look small. What does your physique look like?
My physique looks better than yours.... With bigger legs and I'm sure calves....plus I don't have breasts
Lol at breasts. Bro if you look so great and better than me, then congrats for you! Go ahead and post your pics! While you're at it, go make a thread about yourself too. Who cares!
Should I call it the "I look better than the natural guy with boobies thread"?
This is your defense? You are a fucking moron.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Sarony%2C_Napoleon_%281821-1896%29_-_Bernarr_Macfadden_as_David_-_1905_ca1.jpg)
I could put on 40 lbs or more of lean muscle on anyone here without any AASs or other anabolics. If I failed, I would delete my account and never post here again. Those who do as I say grow like weeds. A guy I trained years ago put on over 50 lbs with only a slight blurr in definition(meaning that it was mostly muscle) whilst almost tripling his 1 rep max on the bench, military press and deads.;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
eva, you sound like a nice guy but I still think you're juicing dude. ;D
I could put on 40 lbs or more of lean muscle on anyone here without any AASs or other anabolics. If I failed, I would delete my account and never post here again. Those who do as I say grow like weeds. A guy I trained years ago put on over 50 lbs with only a slight blurr in definition(meaning that it was mostly muscle) whilst almost tripling his 1 rep max on the bench, military press and deads.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I take that as a compliment, and you're entitled to your opinion bro! ;D
I think you look good mate, big arms and chest with some vascularity. I believe your natural, there's alot of bullshitters about but you seem genuine.
It's hard for some to believe that many have good natural builds and can put on a good amount of size with no help.
I take back what I said. From the way this retard gets so defensive with all these drawn out posts I'd say he is geared out. Trenbolona rage.
Thanks bro! ;D
HAHAHAHA! Defensive? Where is the gyno and acne that guys are claiming? It's all just baseless accusations. I said what I needed to say, and that you're all are entitled to your opinion. Move on bro!
Lol im natural pal. I just like to weed out the liars. Now this dudes picture we are discussing can most certainly be natural if it werent for the excessively thick veins due to a higher RBC but even though he registers here to post a story about how he is natural instead of just letting it be. Ill give him
The benefit of the doubt since we have gay batman kiwiol protecting his beloved black hero from the big bad darkside. Go eat a dick homo.
Marcus is 100% natural! You can see three of his vids atcts ;
he also makes a cameo in Big Andro Offaril's Squat video.
I think a lot of people still haven't caught on to the fact that you can be ripped, muscular, and best of all, STRONG - being 100% natural!
Marcus is 100% natural! You can see three of his vids atcts ;
he also makes a cameo in Big Andro Offaril's Squat video.
I think a lot of people still haven't caught on to the fact that you can be ripped, muscular, and best of all, STRONG - being 100% natural!
LOL, you say you're natural, then how on earth do you supposedly know so much about drugs that gives you the ability to know for a fact if someone is natural or not and what a certain guy is taking to achieve a look? You're full of shit.
Or are you just a jealous fuck that another guy looks better than you without drugs, that you have to say he is on drugs?
Ease off on the Tren fucktard. And shut the fuck up while you're at it.
LOL, you say you're natural, then how on earth do you supposedly know so much about drugs that gives you the ability to know for a fact if someone is natural or not and what a certain guy is taking to achieve a look? You're full of shit.
Or are you just a jealous fuck that another guy looks better than you without drugs, that you have to say he is on drugs?
Lol get off the boards youre slow and a fuckin retard. Go suck on your mommys nipple. To the dude in
Pics where not talking about you really were talking about ur build and pics. Not all of us are internet attention whores fishing for mens attention. But Thats what we do at getbig fucktard, judge physiques And it sucks that it took you 7 yrs to pop a dbol. Im done with this thread stop quoting me. And SMM is a gimmick stop feeding him
HAHAHA! No one is arguing with you! I said that you're entitled to your opinion. Very mature response. You have nothing of substance to say so you have to resort to cursing. I'm flattered by the attention. Keep hating and posting. Let's get this thread to 9 pages!!!
Lol. That's a good question. Why do so many guys claim to be experts on all these drugs and just shoot off with the accusations? Is it to rationalize their lack of progress or fact that they look like crap? You look good/better than me, so you must be on something. SURE!
HAHAH! You're not talking about me, but your talking about my physique and build in the pics? I'm pretty sure that's still talking about me...lol! Dbol? HAHAHAHA! Where do you guys come up with this stuff? Another baseless accusation.
HAHAHA! No one is arguing with you! I said that you're entitled to your opinion. Very mature response. You have nothing of substance to say so you have to resort to cursing. I'm flattered by the attention. Keep hating and posting. Let's get this thread to 9 pages!!!
Lol. That's a good question. Why do so many guys claim to be experts on all these drugs and just shoot off with the accusations? Is it to rationalize their lack of progress or fact that they look like crap? You look good/better than me, so you must be on something. SURE!
HAHAH! You're not talking about me, but your talking about my physique and build in the pics? I'm pretty sure that's still talking about me...lol!
Dbol? HAHAHAHA! Where do you guys come up with this stuff? Another baseless accusation.
lawl...look at you being all defensive. Btw you are not 12-13% at 7 year mark. You are lower then that, but also hold a lot of water weight thus the fat illusion. So 220 @ 9-10% bf is not really natural so sorry bro, you aint going to earn any green reps here for lying your ass off.
I believe you were natural @ this point
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/eva5001/Progress/14nJyPCd2c6lrwkwllFkvAebe1AG40498.jpg)
After that you clearly jumped on something, most likely orals cause they're ez to get. Another thing I noticed about all the "naturals" is that you guys are just like closet queers. So defensive its amusing.
HAHAHA! No one is arguing with you! I said that you're entitled to your opinion. Very mature response. You have nothing of substance to say so you have to resort to cursing. I'm flattered by the attention. Keep hating and posting. Let's get this thread to 9 pages!!!
Lol. That's a good question. Why do so many guys claim to be experts on all these drugs and just shoot off with the accusations? Is it to rationalize their lack of progress or fact that they look like crap? You look good/better than me, so you must be on something. SURE!
HAHAH! You're not talking about me, but your talking about my physique and build in the pics? I'm pretty sure that's still talking about me...lol!
Dbol? HAHAHAHA! Where do you guys come up with this stuff? Another baseless accusation.
The level of steroid abuse you are putting your body through is nothing short of staggering. And your mental state clearly reflects that.
Haha. Says the self proclaimed steroid expert. You probably don't even lift, and now you're mentally diagnosing people. Are you gonna claim to be a psychologist too? Please go!
half of u fuckers who dont believe this guy can be natural, prob lift and eat like complete pussies. MOst people dont train naturaly for 7 years so u dont know what can be achieved.this^