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Title: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: tommywishbone on October 29, 2013, 09:18:05 AM
30 months in the slamer :-\

"A powerlifter who once set the world bench press record in Kennewick was sentenced Thursday to 30 months in federal prison for importing anabolic steroids from India.

Ryan Shawn Kennelly, known to the weightlifting world as "Bench Monster," had 1,503 steroid tablets mailed to him from Mumbai, India, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office. The 39-year-old has been in federal custody since February. He pleaded guilty in March to importing the steroids.Kennelly will be on court supervision for three years after his release.In December 2010, a package containing the tablets arrived for Kennelly at a Kennewick post office, officials said. Kennelly called the post office asking for the package, which eventually was searched by postal inspectors. That same month, authorities searched a Kennewick apartment that was linked to Kennelly, according to Herald archives. Officers found steroid vials, packets of chemicals and a safe. The safe, which Kennelly had the key to, contained $20,000 in cash, $80,000 in gold coins and suspected drugs, court documents said.

Authorities from Grant County's narcotics team previously had seized more than a kilogram of powder steroids from Kennelly's Moses Lake home. Kennelly was charged in Benton County Superior Court with possession with intent to manufacture or deliver anabolic steroids. He faced similar charges in Grant County involving marijuana and steroids. Both cases were dismissed without prejudice as authorities pursued federal charges. Kennelly, a 1992 graduate of Kamikan High School, set the World Powerlifting Organization bench press record in 2008 by pressing 1,075 pounds. The record recently was broken.

 He told the Herald in a 2009 interview that he made a living out of redefining the sport of bench pressing. The 6-foot-2 powerlifter said he had written a book and made videos about the art of bench pressing. "No one in the world can do what I do," he told the Herald. "I've studied the art form and made it easier." The investigation that led to Kennelly's arrest was conducted by pigs."
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: njflex on October 29, 2013, 09:47:52 AM
30 months in the slamer :-\

"A powerlifter who once set the world bench press record in Kennewick was sentenced Thursday to 30 months in federal prison for importing anabolic steroids from India.

Ryan Shawn Kennelly, known to the weightlifting world as "Bench Monster," had 1,503 steroid tablets mailed to him from Mumbai, India, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office. The 39-year-old has been in federal custody since February. He pleaded guilty in March to importing the steroids.Kennelly will be on court supervision for three years after his release.In December 2010, a package containing the tablets arrived for Kennelly at a Kennewick post office, officials said. Kennelly called the post office asking for the package, which eventually was searched by postal inspectors. That same month, authorities searched a Kennewick apartment that was linked to Kennelly, according to Herald archives. Officers found steroid vials, packets of chemicals and a safe. The safe, which Kennelly had the key to, contained $20,000 in cash, $80,000 in gold coins and suspected drugs, court documents said.

Authorities from Grant County's narcotics team previously had seized more than a kilogram of powder steroids from Kennelly's Moses Lake home. Kennelly was charged in Benton County Superior Court with possession with intent to manufacture or deliver anabolic steroids. He faced similar charges in Grant County involving marijuana and steroids. Both cases were dismissed without prejudice as authorities pursued federal charges. Kennelly, a 1992 graduate of Kamikan High School, set the World Powerlifting Organization bench press record in 2008 by pressing 1,075 pounds. The record recently was broken.

 He told the Herald in a 2009 interview that he made a living out of redefining the sport of bench pressing. The 6-foot-2 powerlifter said he had written a book and made videos about the art of bench pressing. "No one in the world can do what I do," he told the Herald. "I've studied the art form and made it easier." The investigation that led to Kennelly's arrest was conducted by pigs."
NICE LOOKING BLOKE..
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Royalty on October 29, 2013, 10:18:23 AM
His quote: "no one in the world can do what I do"


These powerlifting idiot's have ONLY 1 hobby in life: taking tons of juice. Prior to the drugs; they are nobody's. Then they bury themselves in drugs. Then, somehow, they start to think that they are truly special, gifted athletes.

Take away the juice, and they are very ordinary people. Nothing special. Very insecure, people with addictive personalities and a need for attention. (At least with bodybuilding a dude needs to have a decent skeletal structure and follow a decent diet)

These "bench press" guys need to realize that the only sports that the world cares about are: NFL, NHL, NBA, Boxing, UFC, Pro Tennis, World Cup Soccer, PGA Golf, Olympics, Rugby, and maybe Worlds Strongest Man

The bench press goofballs, with their triple demin bench shirts are nothing special.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 29, 2013, 10:20:47 AM
He should be rewarded for "redefining the sport of bench pressing".
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Mitch on October 29, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
Kenelly busted as a drug dealer, it is so much a surprise, I almost try to read this article. ::)
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Man of Steel on October 29, 2013, 10:30:20 AM
It'll be interesting to see how well he rebuilds his bench press after the 30 months are over with.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: funk51 on October 29, 2013, 10:32:47 AM
His quote: "no one in the world can do what I do"


These powerlifting idiot's have ONLY 1 hobby in life: taking tons of juice. Prior to the drugs; they are nobody's. Then they bury themselves in drugs. Then, somehow, they start to think that they are truly special, gifted athletes.

Take away the juice, and they are very ordinary people. Nothing special. Very insecure, people with addictive personalities and a need for attention. (At least with bodybuilding a dude needs to have a decent skeletal structure and follow a decent diet)

These "bench press" guys need to realize that the only sports that the world cares about are: NFL, NHL, NBA, Boxing, UFC, Pro Tennis, World Cup Soccer, PGA Golf, Olympics, Rugby, and maybe Worlds Strongest Man

The bench press goofballs, with their triple demin bench shirts are nothing special.
don't forget MLB a-rod 275 million for 10 years.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 29, 2013, 10:33:29 AM
Anyone see the last line  :D
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 29, 2013, 10:35:23 AM
I know ten places I can get crack cocaine today, out in public.  Why don't we see steroid dealers like this on the street at night?
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Army of One on October 29, 2013, 10:38:09 AM
Permabulking non finesteride user of peace
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: BB on October 29, 2013, 10:50:25 AM
As much as I feel bad that he got busted for silly things that shouldn't be a crime, he was busted 3 times in a short period of time for steroids and weed. You can't thumb your nose at the man like that, and not expect for them to come down hard on you.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 29, 2013, 10:54:25 AM
As much as I feel bad that he got busted for silly things that shouldn't be a crime, he was busted 3 times in a short period of time for steroids and weed. You can't thumb your nose at the man like that, and not expect for them to come down hard on you.

I was wondering why he got 30 months. three busts makes sense
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: tommywishbone on October 29, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
Anyone see the last line  :D

 ;D  When I cut & pasted the article, for some reason it deleted the last few words and I just completed the final sentence as best I could.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Royalty on October 29, 2013, 11:02:54 AM
don't forget MLB a-rod 275 million for 10 years.

before the juice, A-rod was very special, very talented. destined for MLB


The juice just made him a bigger, stronger dude

before the juice, he could still turn double plays @ short-stop position. He could run, jump, slide, dive, hit, catch, ect....
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 29, 2013, 11:04:48 AM
;D  When I cut & pasted the article, for some reason it deleted the last few words and I just completed the final sentence as best I could.

The creativity is 'thong' here...
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on October 29, 2013, 11:24:02 AM
I know ten places I can get crack cocaine today, out in public.  Why don't we see steroid dealers like this on the street at night?
Don't you know steroids are the real problem in this country!
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 29, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
In better times

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=361106.0;attach=396329;image)
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 29, 2013, 11:29:18 AM
His quote: "no one in the world can do what I do"


These powerlifting idiot's have ONLY 1 hobby in life: taking tons of juice. Prior to the drugs; they are nobody's. Then they bury themselves in drugs. Then, somehow, they start to think that they are truly special, gifted athletes.

Take away the juice, and they are very ordinary people. Nothing special. Very insecure, people with addictive personalities and a need for attention. (At least with bodybuilding a dude needs to have a decent skeletal structure and follow a decent diet)

These "bench press" guys need to realize that the only sports that the world cares about are: NFL, NHL, NBA, Boxing, UFC, Pro Tennis, World Cup Soccer, PGA Golf, Olympics, Rugby, and maybe Worlds Strongest Man

The bench press goofballs, with their triple demin bench shirts are nothing special.

This is a bunch of BS. You don't get to elite PL level just by taking drugs. Powerlifters overall train very hard. And there is a strong genetic component too, just like bodybuilding (skeletal structure and other things). And you need a certain mentality as well, not everyone can lift with the aggression needed.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: ESFitness on October 29, 2013, 11:40:02 AM
I was wondering why he got 30 months. three busts makes sense


depends on the state and the DA.

some places, an empty bottle of tren plus 2 used syringes that test pos for tren ace will get you 120months... of which you'll serve 30 months before parole.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: JasonH on October 29, 2013, 11:43:23 AM
In better times

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=361106.0;attach=396329;image)

WTF?
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Army of One on October 29, 2013, 11:49:29 AM
WTF?

He just saw DA's recent pics
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: BB on October 29, 2013, 11:55:12 AM
WTF?

Nose Bleed. Some say it was from his eyes or a combination of both, but most say it was the nose bleed, plus arch angle that cause it to run into his eyes -

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Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 29, 2013, 12:24:22 PM
What kind of sport is bench pressing? Take a big fat guy and have him arch his back with a wide grip so he can push a bar for a 12 inches of range of motion with bench shirt that is so stiff he can't get his arms down. I want to see that same guy take a 315 pound bar bell off the floor and put it over head. I bet he can't do it. This kind of nonsense is just phony strength. 
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: arce1988 on October 29, 2013, 12:30:46 PM
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Ryan Shawn Kennelly, known to the weightlifting world as "Bench Monster," had 1,503 steroid tablets mailed to him from Dubai, India, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office.

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fixed
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 29, 2013, 12:41:33 PM
;D  When I cut & pasted the article, for some reason it deleted the last few words and I just completed the final sentence as best I could.

LOL classic tommy wishbone material right there 8)
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on October 29, 2013, 03:37:28 PM
I can legally import 3 months of supply in Australia:
-visit Tahiti,Hawaii,New Zealand,.......
-get friendly medico or knew where to go Dr.X in _________
-have doctors prescription
-package of 3 months (lets say HGH) must not be open
-report in custom/entry form
-& no problems at all  :)

Check yours country medical import/custom regulations
there is always legal way to do it.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: bigbadwolfe on October 29, 2013, 04:12:39 PM
This is a bunch of BS. You don't get to elite PL level just by taking drugs. Powerlifters overall train very hard. And there is a strong genetic component too, just like bodybuilding (skeletal structure and other things). And you need a certain mentality as well, not everyone can lift with the aggression needed.

What he said ^ above!!!

There is more to our sport then drugs and bench shirts! Ryan fucked up BIG time and made some dumbass mistakes, but you cant take away what this guy did. Fuck he damn near had a 700 raw bench juiced or not that is fucking impressive and he was not a fat ass like me!!!
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: _bruce_ on October 29, 2013, 05:00:52 PM
He just saw DA's recent pics

 ;D ;D ;D

He's a mega asshat but his strength and lifts are boss. His unreal fanny pack mentality is only second to his power.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: WOOO on October 29, 2013, 07:07:43 PM
number of powerlifting fans in the world who give a shit:

6
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on October 29, 2013, 09:31:43 PM
What kind of sport is bench pressing? Take a big fat guy and have him arch his back with a wide grip so he can push a bar for a 12 inches of range of motion with bench shirt that is so stiff he can't get his arms down. I want to see that same guy take a 315 pound bar bell off the floor and put it over head. I bet he can't do it. This kind of nonsense is just phony strength. 

And I want to see an Olympic weightlifter bench press 600 pounds (a crazy feat of strength/athleticism) in only a t-shirt. Wouldn't stand a chance. Why would you expect a powerlifter to clean and jerk like a champion? It's not part of his sport.

Don't be so simple and ignorant.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on October 29, 2013, 09:33:49 PM
Oh, and Ryan could have muscled 315 to his shoulders (clean the weight) and pressed it overhead, easy.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on October 29, 2013, 11:48:49 PM
1503 (tablets) : 915 (day's in jail) =1.6 tablets p/d , shit investment
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Wolfox on October 29, 2013, 11:56:39 PM
1,503 tabs is personal use for that dude. Such bullshit laws.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Wolfox on October 30, 2013, 12:02:47 AM
And I want to see an Olympic weightlifter bench press 600 pounds (a crazy feat of strength/athleticism) in only a t-shirt. Wouldn't stand a chance. Why would you expect a powerlifter to clean and jerk like a champion? It's not part of his sport.

Don't be so simple and ignorant.

Elite weightlifers have crazy pressing strength. They'd fare far better at the bench than elite powerlifters would at the snatch or clean and jerk.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Wolfox on October 30, 2013, 12:09:11 AM
Rezazadeh didn't throw up 580lbs over his head using only leg drive. This beast's delts and triceps are crazy strong for pressing.

Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: BB on October 30, 2013, 03:49:00 AM
Kennelly raw benched #670. He'd easily have gotten #315, although the Clean might be a bit ugly. And probably would've gotten #405 and change out of the racks without much trouble.

Like wise, most of the big SHW Olympic lifters can probably get into the low and mid 5's on bench without much trouble. The percentage would be higher if the press was still included. The Press correlates better for figuring Bench Press numbers.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Wolfox on October 30, 2013, 03:54:41 AM
A lot of these elite American powerlifters can barely tie their shoes laces. This is no exaggeration of their lack of ability.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: HavoX on October 30, 2013, 12:03:45 PM
1,503 tabs is personal use for that dude. Such bullshit laws.

I was thinking the same thing. 12 pills a day is only like four months worth... Then I saw the 20 grand and gold coins and third (or fourth) strike.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: WalterWhite on October 30, 2013, 12:17:39 PM
This is such BS!  Our gov is broke and wasting time on PEDs!

Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on October 30, 2013, 01:29:40 PM
This is such BS!  Our gov is broke and wasting time on PEDs!



the Government is too big.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: anabolichalo on October 30, 2013, 01:36:20 PM
pedling roids as a world renounded athelete in a roid infested sport may not be a wise move  ::)
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 30, 2013, 01:56:47 PM
Hairline of Peace
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: anabolichalo on October 30, 2013, 02:07:19 PM
Hairline of Peace
hair density is his problem


not a snowball chance in hell to salvage it with finasteride and hairtransplant now


his cranium seems well shaped tho which will suit the fat bloated face nicely
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on October 30, 2013, 03:09:16 PM
Elite weightlifers have crazy pressing strength. They'd fare far better at the bench than elite powerlifters would at the snatch or clean and jerk.

Completely disagree. And you'll now disagree with me, so let's just can the debate.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on October 30, 2013, 03:11:29 PM
A lot of these elite American powerlifters can barely tie their shoes laces. This is no exaggeration of their lack of ability.

Athletic ability is specific to what the athlete's sport demands. No more and no less. Powerlifters strive to maximize ONE specific athletic attribute: absolute strength. Tying shoe laces? Are you kidding?! Please tell us the relevance.

They're extreme athletes. To be so over-the-top, they need to push matters beyond the norm.

Listen, you don't know much about powerlifting and do not like powerlifting. So why not just steer clear of anything to do with it and stop disrespecting those who find satisfaction in the pursuit of excellence in the endeavor?

I'm no fan of multi-ply lifting, either, but let people do what they want. And regardless, just because Ryan chose to compete in the bench press with heavy gear, doesn't mean he wasn't exceptionally strong and powerful and gifted. The guy could press close to seven in a t-shirt. He has in his possession specific genetic realities that allowed him to do so. No one is gonna deny steroids didn't massively help, but his structural integrity must be above average to have allowed him to survive the type of stress required to become so successful.   
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: MisterMagoo on October 30, 2013, 03:15:32 PM
Elite weightlifers have crazy pressing strength. They'd fare far better at the bench than elite powerlifters would at the snatch or clean and jerk.

not nearly as much as they used to. find a video of any elite WLers benching or strict pressing. you won't, because those lifts aren't in their training cycles. you'll find some dudes doing push presses or klokov/sotts presses, but that's all.

and obviously elite powerlifters would do worse at a snatch than an oly lifter would do at the bench, oly lifts are HUGELY about the skill of the lift itself, not the brute force of it. a powerlifter might be able to deadlift, front squat, and OHP more than the oly guy, but can't outdo him in the C&J because he doesn't have the SKILL for it, not because he lacks STRENGTH.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on October 30, 2013, 03:20:11 PM
not nearly as much as they used to. find a video of any elite WLers benching or strict pressing. you won't, because those lifts aren't in their training cycles. you'll find some dudes doing push presses or klokov/sotts presses, but that's all.

and obviously elite powerlifters would do worse at a snatch than an oly lifter would do at the bench, oly lifts are HUGELY about the skill of the lift itself, not the brute force of it. a powerlifter might be able to deadlift, front squat, and OHP more than the oly guy, but can't outdo him in the C&J because he doesn't have the SKILL for it, not because he lacks STRENGTH.

Well said.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Wolfox on October 30, 2013, 04:37:38 PM
not nearly as much as they used to. find a video of any elite WLers benching or strict pressing. you won't, because those lifts aren't in their training cycles. you'll find some dudes doing push presses or klokov/sotts presses, but that's all.



Are you illiterate? You're acting as if someone here said benching and strict pressing are part of their training cycles. Should I reply with an equally stupid response saying powerlifters don't incorporate snatches and clean and jerks? No... because that would be as pointless as your post.

I said elite weightlifters have crazy pressing strength because they do.

Here's a push press. Front delts and triceps are heavily involved in this lift as with all pressing movements.



and obviously elite powerlifters would do worse at a snatch than an oly lifter would do at the bench, oly lifts are HUGELY about the skill of the lift itself, not the brute force of it. a powerlifter might be able to deadlift, front squat, and OHP more than the oly guy, but can't outdo him in the C&J because he doesn't have the SKILL for it, not because he lacks STRENGTH.

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a powerlifter might be able to deadlift, front squat, and OHP more than the oly guy,
Deadlift yes, but front squat a2g and ohp? No. But nice try.

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but can't outdo him in the C&J because he doesn't have the SKILL for it, not because he lacks STRENGTH.
A powerlifter lacks not only the skill/technique but also the athleticism, power and explosiveness to snatch and clean and jerk.


Fact of the matter is elite Olympic weightlifters would fare far better at the bench than elite powerlifters would at the snatch or clean and jerk. Make excuses all you want I don't care but facts are facts.

Weightlifters > Powerlifters
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Wolfox on October 30, 2013, 04:46:29 PM
Athletic ability is specific to what the athlete's sport demands. No more and no less. Powerlifters strive to maximize ONE specific athletic attribute: absolute strength. Tying shoe laces? Are you kidding?! Please tell us the relevance.

They're extreme athletes. To be so over-the-top, they need to push matters beyond the norm.

Listen, you don't know much about powerlifting and do not like powerlifting. So why not just steer clear of anything to do with it and stop disrespecting those who find satisfaction in the pursuit of excellence in the endeavor?

I'm no fan of multi-ply lifting, either, but let people do what they want. And regardless, just because Ryan chose to compete in the bench press with heavy gear, doesn't mean he wasn't exceptionally strong and powerful and gifted. The guy could press close to seven in a t-shirt. He has in his possession specific genetic realities that allowed him to do so. No one is gonna deny steroids didn't massively help, but his structural integrity must be above average to have allowed him to survive the type of stress required to become so successful.    

Brother for the record I have nothing against IPF powerlifting or their US affiliate. But I will always call it how I see it especially with regard to these 'athletes' who compete in these multi-ply american powerlifting orgs with their above parallel depth squats and other shenanigans.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on October 30, 2013, 06:11:04 PM
Brother for the record I have nothing against IPF powerlifting or their US affiliate. But I will always call it how I see it especially with regard to these 'athletes' who compete in these multi-ply american powerlifting orgs with their above parallel depth squats and other shenanigans.

I actively dislike what multi-ply lifting has done to powerlifting's overall credibility. This I will state. But powerlifting at its core is an extremely valid expression of an athlete's earned strength and power. Brute and disciplined strength training is incredibly tough and requires both nerves of steel and incredible resilience. Anyone who's been of this camp KNOWS this, fully. That some choose to lessen their truthful glory with the use of all these aids is for others to explain.

An athlete like Brad Gillingham is extremely impressive. To diminish his efforts and achievements because his sport differs from the one known as Olympic lifting is kinda lame and narrow minded. He is no less an athlete than any other. 
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: thebrink on October 30, 2013, 07:45:25 PM
What kind of sport is bench pressing? Take a big fat guy and have him arch his back with a wide grip so he can push a bar for a 12 inches of range of motion with bench shirt that is so stiff he can't get his arms down. I want to see that same guy take a 315 pound bar bell off the floor and put it over head. I bet he can't do it. This kind of nonsense is just phony strength. 

X2.

darts has more honor ffs.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: thebrink on October 30, 2013, 07:48:41 PM
the Government is too big.

too many factions justifying their existences and wasting tax dollars.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: MisterMagoo on October 30, 2013, 08:23:09 PM
Are you illiterate? You're acting as if someone here said benching and strict pressing are part of their training cycles. Should I reply with an equally stupid response saying powerlifters don't incorporate snatches and clean and jerks? No... because that would be as pointless as your post.

I said elite weightlifters have crazy pressing strength because they do.

Here's a push press. Front delts and triceps are heavily involved in this lift as with all pressing movements.


Deadlift yes, but front squat a2g and ohp? No. But nice try.
A powerlifter lacks not only the skill/technique but also the athleticism, power and explosiveness to snatch and clean and jerk.


Fact of the matter is elite Olympic weightlifters would fare far better at the bench than elite powerlifters would at the snatch or clean and jerk. Make excuses all you want I don't care but facts are facts.

Weightlifters > Powerlifters

that's like saying elite football players are better at the bench than elite bench pressers are at throwing a football. no shit dude, the latter is a HEAVILY skill based event, the former is pure brute force. powerlifters have far stronger muscles, olympic lifters are far more coordinated and agile. it's really that simple, and using how good one would be at the other is unfair because the bench can be done with ZERO skill. it might not be an optimized lift, but just to press a barbell from your chest to lockout needs absolutely no "practice" in order to successfully complete the lift. that is far from the case with olympic lifting.

olympic gymnasts, on average, can bench double their bodyweight on the bench despite not training it. why? benching requires fuck all in terms of coordination. if you have strong triceps/shoulders and your chest isn't completely atrophied, you can bench a lot of weight. it doesn't matter when the last time you sat on a bench was. i hadn't done a bench in a few months and a while ago just to fuck around i hit close-grip with a full pause 275x3 weighing 200lb.

by the way, the funniest part of all this? i do olympic lifting, and i follow guys like klokov on youtube. i heavily prefer oly lifting, i find it a more enjoyable and athletic pursuit (i actually do outlaw crossfit), so your blabbing at me about oly lifting like i don't know who these guys are or how strong they are (did you miss the part where I mentioned klokov presses?) is kinda funny. i just get annoyed when people compare strength sport A to strength sport B as though the lifts are on an even keel.

FWIW, here's benedikt magnusson, a guy who NEVER olympic lifts, power cleaning and pressing 375 just fucking around.

Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Wolfox on October 30, 2013, 08:48:17 PM
Just plain wrong on multiple levels. If you have a point its buried deep in stupid. Read it over and over again until it sinks in. I can't be bothered with you. You've shown in other threads as this one to speak without knowing and i find that very annoying. Because of that I just can't you seriously.

btw - benedikt magnusson is also a strongman. Nice example for powerlifters...really relevant. And know that there are elite female weightlifters who could clean and jerk the,weight he used. Double failure.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on October 30, 2013, 10:40:21 PM
How many of you studs have been in a PL or an OL meet?
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: tommywishbone on October 30, 2013, 10:51:56 PM
How many of you studs have been in a PL or an OL meet?

Competed in both. Lots and lots of both.

Completed as 198, 220, 242 and 275 pounder. Three Master's ratings and one Elite rating.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: ChristopherA on October 30, 2013, 10:57:34 PM
Anyone see the last line  :D
Beat me to it haha! Fucking pigs
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on October 31, 2013, 02:04:37 AM
Competed in both. Lots and lots of both.

Completed as 198, 220, 242 and 275 pounder. Three Master's ratings and one Elite rating.

 :)
Nice work. That's a wide range of weight classes
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: rocket on October 31, 2013, 04:14:09 AM
There are a decent amount of weak people on this board who have seen 3 videos of blimps pressing a thousand pounds with bench shirts on.  They've never been (are afraid to go) to a powerlifting meet and see somebody their weight compete, raw and seen how far the rabbit hole of strength goes at their level (regardless of juice) - but they sure as hell have "informed" opinions on the entire subject  ::)

As they are weak (both in mind and body), they need of a way to reassure themselves that their bodies are in some way functional - they convince themselves that:

1.  All powerlifting is folly
2.  They are fit
3.  If they got into a street fight, it'd be lights out for the poor fucker who picked them

Here is the reality:

1.  150 pound twinks on zero juice can out lift them
2.  About 3 weeks a decade, they are fitter and look better than their non training friends, who pull just as much - or more pussy.
3.  130 pound kids, 1 year into MMA training can beat them up

If you are reading this and you are weak, look like shit and you're not pulling more pussy that your non training friends - what the fuck are you bothering to turn up to the gym for? :)
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on October 31, 2013, 11:06:24 AM
How many of you studs have been in a PL or an OL meet?

Never competed as an Oympic lifter, but have as both a bodybuilder and a powerlifter, multiple times, each.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: BB on December 02, 2013, 06:36:25 AM
Bares his soul -

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Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: BB on December 02, 2013, 07:17:08 AM
21:00 - 26:00 , he speaks on stack for the big presses -

#2500 miligrams - Long acting Test

#850  Nandrolone

#75 Dianabol per day

#100  Fast acting Test per day

Insulin
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Progresses to injecting and a tang/insulin/steroid power drink.

Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Gonuclear on December 02, 2013, 07:38:53 AM
His quote: "no one in the world can do what I do"


These powerlifting idiot's have ONLY 1 hobby in life: taking tons of juice. Prior to the drugs; they are nobody's. Then they bury themselves in drugs. Then, somehow, they start to think that they are truly special, gifted athletes.

Take away the juice, and they are very ordinary people. Nothing special. Very insecure, people with addictive personalities and a need for attention. (At least with bodybuilding a dude needs to have a decent skeletal structure and follow a decent diet)

These "bench press" guys need to realize that the only sports that the world cares about are: NFL, NHL, NBA, Boxing, UFC, Pro Tennis, World Cup Soccer, PGA Golf, Olympics, Rugby, and maybe Worlds Strongest Man

The bench press goofballs, with their triple demin bench shirts are nothing special.

You have a point.  But if a guy wants to build his life around something like this and he is not hurting anyone, why do the cops need to swoop in exactly?  We have shootings in schools every other month in this country, cops raiding the wrong houses and killing people.  We have a government that violates international law and spies on and jails American citizens without a hearing.  

Maybe you don't approve of what this guy is doing, but doesn't our nascent police state have bigger fish to fry?
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 02, 2013, 07:41:12 AM
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Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: SamoanIrishman on December 02, 2013, 07:43:00 AM
I know a couple of power lifters (Samoans) and while they are strong as hell and gigantic, none of them can run a single mile without having to stop and rest.


Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Gonuclear on December 02, 2013, 08:16:10 AM
I know a couple of power lifters (Samoans) and while they are strong as hell and gigantic, none of them can run a single mile without having to stop and rest.




A lot of bodybuilders are in the same boat. 
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: njflex on December 02, 2013, 10:10:26 AM
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LARGE MAN/LARGE DOSE..
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Mawse on December 02, 2013, 12:35:03 PM
that video makes me sick to my stomach, they have to parade out his crying family and baby pictures in the hope the obese, likely chain smoking judge will take pity on him for being so mentally ill and not give him a harsher sentence than a child molester or someone who robbed an old lady.

justice in this country is seriously fucked up priority wise, thanks to regan, biden and the other turd nuggets who decided to ruin peoples lives over victimless 'crimes'

just try him on tax evasion and not giving the government a slice of his pie, seriously...
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: anabolichalo on December 02, 2013, 01:32:49 PM
that video makes me sick to my stomach, they have to parade out his crying family and baby pictures in the hope the obese, likely chain smoking judge will take pity on him for being so mentally ill and not give him a harsher sentence than a child molester or someone who robbed an old lady.

justice in this country is seriously fucked up priority wise, thanks to regan, biden and the other turd nuggets who decided to ruin peoples lives over victimless 'crimes'

just try him on tax evasion and not giving the government a slice of his pie, seriously...
that video is way too long

no judge is watching this shit
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on December 02, 2013, 03:04:42 PM
I know a couple of power lifters (Samoans) and while they are strong as hell and gigantic, none of them can run a single mile without having to stop and rest.

Newsflash: Most people cannot run a mile without having to stop and rest.

This guy had the strength to press a poundage that eludes 99.9 percent of serious weight-training athletes. To achieve the extreme in absolute strength means letting its opposite attribute go largely to the wayside.

Why is it so difficult for some here to understand that individuals have individual pursuits. Clearly Ryan didn't value a fast-ran mile achievement. But he did a world-beating bench press.

As another asks, why does the government care so much about a guy who simply likes to build crazy strength? Ryan wasn't murdering, raping and stealing. Heck, he most likely wasn't being half the nuisance your average weekend club-goer is. Alcohol sold everywhere, ruining peoples' lives left, right and centre, but this dude hangs out in a gym lifting big weights and PUT HIM IN JAIL.  ::)  
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Croatch on December 02, 2013, 03:30:58 PM
Why just 30 months?  Isn't he a repeat offender.  Some fools just never learn.  One less clown at the gym.
These guys are brutally delusional.  A group of fat guys shouting at them to lift the weight, 32 spotters...which don't really help if a hand slips on the bench, weight belts, weight suits, chalk, demented form on the bench....oh and many drugs to facilitate "their" achievements.  Nothing more not manly than this.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: anabolichalo on December 02, 2013, 04:01:56 PM
Why just 30 months?  Isn't he a repeat offender.  Some fools just never learn.  One less clown at the gym.
These guys are brutally delusional.  A group of fat guys shouting at them to lift the weight, 32 spotters...which don't really help if a hand slips on the bench, weight belts, weight suits, chalk, demented form on the bench....oh and many drugs to facilitate "their" achievements.  Nothing more not manly than this.
only oiled up hairless men in thongs displaying their muscularity on stage is
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on December 02, 2013, 04:54:58 PM
Bares his soul -

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Good watch. Gives me a glimpse of the man behind the huge bench presses. Sad in many ways, of course.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: tommywishbone on December 02, 2013, 06:42:08 PM
He appears to have lost a little size since his incarceration.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 02, 2013, 06:46:26 PM
So he had 1500 pills? That's like a month worth of dbol, or maybe $300 worth of shit to this guy.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on December 03, 2013, 06:44:22 PM
I feel badly for the guy, truthfully. His back story explains a lot.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 03, 2013, 06:52:40 PM
Yes, he would have gone back to taking steroids immediately. No  doubt.

Hard to believe his mindset/beliefs on drugs due to the reason behind shooting the video.

And only 75mg of dbol? Haha :D

Poor knowledge of drug actions.


So he had 1500 pills? That's like a month worth of dbol, or maybe $300 worth of shit to this guy.

A couple of pounds of raw powders plus weed as well.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on December 03, 2013, 06:54:44 PM
Yes, he would have gone back to taking steroids immediately. No  doubt.

Hard to believe his mindset/beliefs on drugs due to the reason behind shooting the video.

Unlikely. The guy is very aware of what health issues have resulted from his insane drug abuse.
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 03, 2013, 07:01:29 PM
Unlikely. The guy is very aware of what health issues have resulted from his insane drug abuse.

Sure he knows. But you are underestimating the addiction. Now as he sits in prison if someone came up and said, here you can have 400mg of test a week plus 2iu's of growth per day. His mind would have reasoned something like this, "man I'm feeling really down, I have low test anyway and 400mg isn't that much, it'll perk me up, it can't be healthy being hypo anyway, might even help my organs". And if he was released with unlimited access he would have thought like this, "man, if I keep my BP under control then there is no reason not to use, I'll up the dosages and keep an eye on BP, use my CPAP machine every night... I'll be fine".... going to the gym and seeing his old friends all jacked up would only add to the pressure.

That's exactly how he would think, guarantee it.

On other forums there have been guys with hearth attacks, heart failure, livers all cut up due to adenomas etc. Every one of them has gone back to using. When the crisis hit at first they all swore to never use again. Then they start thinking, "wonder how much I could still get away with?"
Title: Re: Big house for the big boy.
Post by: Fortress on December 03, 2013, 07:05:19 PM
Sure he knows. But you are underestimating the addiction. Now as he sits in prison if someone came up and said, here you can have 400mg of test a week plus 2iu's of growth per day. His mind would have reasoned something like this, "man I'm feeling really down, I have low test anyway and 400mg isn't that much, it'll perk me up, it can't be healthy being hypo anyway, might even help my organs". And if he was released with unlimited access he would have thought like this, "man, if I keep my BP under control then there is no reason not to use, I'll up the dosages and keep an eye on BP, use my CPAP machine every night... I'll be fine".... going to the gym and seeing his old friends all jacked up would only add to the pressure.

That's exactly how he would think, guarantee it.

On other forums there have been guys with hearth attacks, heart failure, livers all cut up due to adenomas etc. Every one of them has gone back to using. When the crisis hit at first they all swore to never use again. Then they start thinking, "wonder how much I could still get away with?"

Well, perhaps you're right, but if so, what a disaster.