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Virtue signaling POS ::)
Canada's Trudeau announces 'national freeze' on handgun ownership, mandatory gun buyback legislation
https://justthenews.com/world/canada/canadas-trudeau-announces-national-freeze-handgun-ownership-mandatory-gun-buyback
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^ Did that just happen, ND?
EDIT: Whoa, looks legit...
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadas-trudeau-announces-legislation-prevent-buying-selling-handguns-2022-05-30/
Put a fork in Canada...
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^ Did that just happen, ND?
EDIT: Whoa, looks legit...
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadas-trudeau-announces-legislation-prevent-buying-selling-handguns-2022-05-30/
Put a fork in Canada...
Fucking complete Narcissist . Welcome to the club of being punished for the crimes of others. ::)
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It will soon be America alone, and a bunch of little communist states.
Stayed armed, my American friends.
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Fucking complete Narcissist . Welcome to the club of being punished for the crimes of others. ::)
But the crazy part is - CANADA ALREADY HAS THE "COMMONSENSE GUN LAWS" THAT IS BEING PUSHED ON THE USA!!
That's why I would urge all Americans to not buy into the bullshit about banning weapons, using that as an excuse. It's nonsense. They will claw and claw more of your guns, until you look like Australia.
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Remember when Canada froze the bank accounts of the people who attended a peaceful protest?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/canadian-freedom-convoy-truck-seized-bank-account-frozen
When you keep electing tyrants, don't be surprised when they do tyrannical shit.
FUCK CANADA.
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"It could apply to tens of thousands of guns, and the buybacks are likely to begin by the end of 2022, The New York Times reported."
Canadians are on notice to acquire guns and magazines now.
A few years ago Trump announced a ban on the manufacture and sale of bump stocks. Anyone who wanted one (or two or three...) got one before the ban.
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It's not a gun buyback. If the government didn't sell the guns to you in the first place, they can't "buy them back".
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New World Order on the way....
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Great leadership right there!
In Canada we care about our school children.
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Great leadership right there!
In Canada we care about our school children.
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What will you do when they decide to ban massage parlors?
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Great leadership right there!
In Canada we care about our school children.
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If Barry Sotero cared about school children he wouldn’t have passed a law that allows a 55 year old man in a dress to go to the bathroom next to your eight year old daughter.
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The US GUN problem summed up in one post:
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William Shatner and Pamela Anderson’s tits are the last, best things to come from Canada.
PIP Canada.
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Reality
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Leftists: "We have to ban guns because of how much we care about children".
Also Leftists: "We demand the right to kill our unwanted children"
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Great leadership right there!
In Canada we care about our school children.
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Do you realize Obama has killed dozens of children? including a 16 year old American?
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William Shatner and Pamela Anderson’s tits are the last, best things to come from Canada.
PIP Canada.
Pams real tits of course, not the later bolt ons
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Do you realize Obama has killed dozens of children? including a 16 year old American?
Biden is a killer of innocent children....not the NRA.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/10/kabul-strike-killed-us-aid-worker-and-family-not-isis-bombers/
Zemari Ahmadi and nine members of his family, including seven children, were killed in the airstrike on Aug. 29
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Oak hero :-\
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War criminal
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Leftists: "We have to ban guns because of how much we care about children".
Also Leftists: "We demand the right to kill our unwanted children"
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Right Wing Nuts: There is NO point in banning guns. People will just get them illegally.
Right Wing Nuts: We need to BAN abortion!
Also....terminating an unwanted pregnancy is NOT murder.
Hope this helps!
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Reality
I notice Canada is NOT on your list.
That's interesting!
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“Gun violence in Texas is a RARE occurrence”.
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https://twitter.com/ZeroFox04/status/1531213763298271233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw .
Trudeau’s Bill C-5 eliminates mandatory minimum sentences for serious gun crimes including:
- using a firearm in commission of a crime
- possessing a restricted or prohibited weapon, loaded handgun
- weapons trafficking/smuggling
- using a gun to commit robbery or extortion.
More here - https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-trudeau-promises-to-address-high-rates-of-indigenous-incarceration/ .
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Spot on!
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Amen!
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All time best Canadian:
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Conversely,
November 26, 2016
Antananarivo, Madagascar
The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, today issued the following statement on the death of former Cuban President Fidel Castro:
“It is with deep sorrow that I learned today of the death of Cuba’s longest serving President.
“Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his people for almost half a century. A legendary revolutionary and orator, Mr. Castro made significant improvements to the education and healthcare of his island nation.
“While a controversial figure, both Mr. Castro’s supporters and detractors recognized his tremendous dedication and love for the Cuban people who had a deep and lasting affection for “el Comandante”.
“I know my father was very proud to call him a friend and I had the opportunity to meet Fidel when my father passed away. It was also a real honour to meet his three sons and his brother President Raúl Castro during my recent visit to Cuba.
“On behalf of all Canadians, Sophie and I offer our deepest condolences to the family, friends and many, many supporters of Mr. Castro. We join the people of Cuba today in mourning the loss of this remarkable leader.”
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Nope!
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All time best Canadian:
🎼 Those were some tasty licks! 🎼
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Right Wing Nuts: There is NO point in banning guns. People will just get them illegally.
Right Wing Nuts: We need to BAN abortion!
Also....terminating an unwanted pregnancy is NOT murder.
Hope this helps!
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If the pregnancy wasn't intentionally "terminated" as you say, the child would be born = Murder
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I don't see why all these Democrats are so upset about the school shooting. Just call it a "late stage" abortion. A really late stage abortion.
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Right Wing Nuts: There is NO point in banning guns. People will just get them illegally.
Right Wing Nuts: We need to BAN abortion!
Also....terminating an unwanted pregnancy is NOT murder.
Hope this helps!
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You’re a medical professional?
Lol oak this is funny.
Who gets to decide what an unwanted pregnancy is?
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If the pregnancy wasn't intentionally "terminated" as you say, the child would be born = Murder
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Ok.
I understand what you’re saying.
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You’re a medical professional?
Lol oak this is funny.
Who gets to decide what an unwanted pregnancy is?
In Canada. The woman.
In the US. The government.
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In Canada. The woman.
In the US. The government.
At any point does the father get a say? No, he just get to involuntarily pay child support for 20 years if the woman decided to keep it. If he doesn't pay, men with guns come and take him to jail.
What if she wanted the child, but for him it's an unwanted child? Tough shit, he still has to pay....or go to jail. Woman have an out, men are completely dependent on what she decides.
Sounds fair.
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Why would I be concerned with mass shootings, which increase an American's chance of death by under 1%?
Also, they will keep banning things until they come for you.
You heard it here first, ChOAK.
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The US GUN problem summed up in one post:
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That and the second amendment, nimrod!
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At any point does the father get a say? No, he just get to involuntarily pay child support for 20 years if the woman decided to keep it. If he doesn't pay, men with guns come and take him to jail.
What if she wanted the child, but for him it's an unwanted child? Tough shit, he still has to pay....or go to jail. Woman have an out, men are completely dependent on what she decides.
Sounds fair.
Good question. I don't make the rules. Of course it's been like this for thousands of years.
Moral of the story: don't hook up with the wrong woman.
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Reality
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=679191.0;attach=1371787;image)
White American murder rate per-capita: 2.1 per 100,000 population per year.
White Canadian murder rate per-capita: 1.8 per 100,000 population per year.
^ Mass shootings don't even impact those stats by 1%, and ALL the rest of the disparity is from non-White murders.
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Tell me something, OAK:
WHY is my city, Thunder Bay, the most violent in Canada, and way above the American average?
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In Canada. The woman.
In the US. The government.
Got it.
So Canada has a definition for what a woman is? If so than it may clear a lot of things up.
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The US GUN problem summed up in one post:
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For the 2016 election cycle the NRA donated $1M directly to candidates, almost all Republicans. In the same cycle the S.E.I.U., American Federation of Teachers, and the Laborers Union donated over $100M directly to candidates, almost all Democrats. And folks believe that the NRA has too much influence. ::)
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What about the criminals, fucktard. All it does is punish law abiding citizens.
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For the 2016 election cycle the NRA donated $1M directly to candidates, almost all Republicans. In the same cycle the S.E.I.U., American Federation of Teachers, and the Laborers Union donated over $100M directly to candidates, almost all Democrats. And folks believe that the NRA has too much influence. ::)
LOL!
We are all sheep at some level but you are 100% correct that the average person has no idea how little influence the NRA has today.
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The fact that Democrats want guns banned is why I’m absolutely positive we’ve never needed gun ownership more than right now.
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The fact that Democrats want guns banned is why I’m absolutely positive we’ve never needed gun ownership more than right now.
Agree 100%. The thing that our forefathers were warning us about is here, and the worst is yet to come.
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They have way more ridiculous contradictions than that.
I just spent the past hour reading comments here:
Nice to see some pro-second amendment comments in there, but most people don't seem to understand it.
My suggestion to my American friends is to buy guns while you still can.
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They have way more ridiculous contradictions than that.
I just spent the past hour reading comments here:
Nice to see some pro-second amendment comments in there, but most people don't seem to understand it.
My suggestion to my American friends is to buy guns while you still can.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=679191.0;attach=1371882;image)
In general, I'd say fighting back against bullies to show that you aren't a weak target is indeed a good idea.
Also, didn't you just support Canada sending $100 million in arms to Ukraine, in a war they are bound to lose?
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More accurately
Democrzts solution: take sticks away from the kids that were playing nicely.
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Fuck off. Again.
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More accurately
Democrzts solution: take sticks away from the kids that were playing nicely.
So
Fuck off. Again.
Exactly!!!
A more fitting example would be a situation where sticks were ALREADY banned - and an illegal stick was used by a student breaking the rules, and the school then bans more sticks, or imposes even stricter bans, only to punish those already abiding by the rules.
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In Canada. The woman.
In the US. The government.
I did not know that Canada allows abortion on demand for the duration of the pregnancy. Thanks for that information? :'(
Turns out that 90% of abortions in Canada are performed within the first trimester (12 weeks), a practice consonant with a lot of abortion restrictions in Western Europe. 92.7% of abortions in the U.S. are within the first 13 weeks (I did not know this stat, so thanks for giving me a reason to look it up).
https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm
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Take a look at the C-5 co-bill that is also being pushed with the firearm ban (total ban and confiscation is the goal here)
Trudeau’s Bill C-5 eliminates mandatory minimum sentences for serious gun crimes including:
- using a firearm in commission of a crime
- possessing a restricted or prohibited weapon, loaded handgun
- weapons trafficking/smuggling
- using a gun to commit robbery or extortion.
https://twitter.com/ZeroFox04/status/1531213763298271233?s=20&t=LMceEHY10F6H1xNYmOV35A (https://twitter.com/ZeroFox04/status/1531213763298271233?s=20&t=LMceEHY10F6H1xNYmOV35A)
Criminals and violent offenders get off easier now. Less punishment under the law for them. Free to go and commit more crime against, now, defenseless citizens who will be treated as the threat. In the Soviet Union self defense was strictly prohibited for all intents and purposes, if you killed someone defending yourself (no matter how much your life was in obvious danger) you would be treated harshly. Population under constant stress attack with no means of defense or recourse as the legal deck is now stacked against them and not actual criminals. Best thing about this is that Trudeau has mechanisms that will allow him to pass this without a vote by parliament in the traditional sense. Canada, as a free country, has ceased to exist.
If you can't see what the point of these twin bills is...you need help.
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So much for gun control “not working”.
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So much for gun control “not working”.
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More useless context and statistics free quotes.
How many firearms deaths per year are committed with rifles?
How many with handguns?
What are the total splits between homicide and suicide for each?
What was the drop during that time attributed to?
Get to work!
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More useless context and statistics free quotes.
How many firearms deaths per year are committed with rifles?
How many with handguns?
What are the total splits between homicide and suicide for each?
What was the drop during that time attributed to?
Get to work!
….because stats and data are useless.
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You didn't answer my question.
Those numbers are also useless without proper context of Who, What, Why, Where.
But you know that
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You didn't answer my question.
Those numbers are also useless without proper context of Who, What, Why, Where.
But you know that
I disagree.
I’ve provided evidence for stricter gun control while you have provided NOTHING.
Answer you own questions.
You get to work!
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Trudeau the smarmy kunt has the most punchable face in the world. Him and that horse faced slag Jacinda Ardern. Both globalist/WEF puppets trying to bring in the NWO.
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Right Wing Nuts: There is NO point in banning guns. People will just get them illegally.
Right Wing Nuts: We need to BAN abortion!
Also....terminating an unwanted pregnancy is NOT murder.
Hope this helps!
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When does life begin?
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When does life begin?
That’s a simple unloaded question.
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At fertilization.
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Fentanyl will kill 1,000X more people in the U.S. this year than mass shooters.
Since the Democrat political platform is for open borders and the drugs come in from Mexico, the left needs some huge deflection come election time. So the “gun control” narrative keeps the weak-minded in tow.
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So much for gun control “not working”.
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Again they were NEVER banned ;)
One of these is a banned rifle and the other is NOT. The original AWB was a abject failure and your stats are lies.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2582989
Specific laws directed at firearm trafficking, improving child safety, or the banning of military-style assault weapons were not associated with changes in firearm homicide rates
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Right Wing Nuts: There is NO point in banning guns. People will just get them illegally.
Right Wing Nuts: We need to BAN abortion!
Also....terminating an unwanted pregnancy is NOT murder.
Hope this helps!
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Murder is defined as the unlawful taking of a life
So if abortion is legal then it isnt murder, its still killing though.
The word "Murder" is a lawful/legal term
You cant say someone has murdered someone until they have been convicted in court.
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So much for gun control “not working”.
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The mass shootings dropped, but knife killings went up, making the deaths roughly equal, you absolute ignorant sack of complete shit.
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….because stats and data are useless.
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70% of those murders are Black and Hispanic.
Adjust the data for race.
Also, you said you live in Manitoba - why is Winnipeg so violent?
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Where do you get all of your pics from?
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In general, I'd say fighting back against bullies to show that you aren't a weak target is indeed a good idea.
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Wrong answer Matt!
You don't give a group of 4 year old sticks and watch them battle it out.
How many kids did you say you have?
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Wrong answer Matt!
You don't give a group of 4 year old sticks and watch them battle it out.
How many kids did you say you have?
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You don't punish the rule-abiding kids.
I'd say you fell the kids not to let themselves be an easy target - and punish the child who violated the rules.
Canada already has "commonsense gun laws".
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You don't punish the rule-abiding kids.
I'd say you fell the kids not to let themselves be an easy target - and punish the child who violated the rules.
Canada already has "commonsense gun laws".
That makes sense.
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Murder is defined as the unlawful taking of a life
So if abortion is legal then it isnt murder, its still killing though.
The word "Murder" is a lawful/legal term
You cant say someone has murdered someone until they have been convicted in court.
Correct.
Rifles of all kinds are responisble for a small amount of deaths per year. 600 or so give or take. 350 or so of those are homicides.
Violent crime of all kinds (including firearms which means handguns) was on a steady decline for 3 decades or so before beginning a rise in 2014. The rates are now pretty elevated in comparison with numbers from just 10 years ago.
Last few years we've had a Pro-Criminal DoJ and State AG take on crime. Plenty of awful bail reforms and "Criminal Justice Reforms" have taken hold. This is the outcome. The State wants the war at your doorstep.
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Wrong answer Matt!
You don't give a group of 4 year old sticks and watch them battle it out.
How many kids did you say you have?
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Hey Oak I understand the analogy but do you think it’s accurate to compare citizens to 4 year olds and the government as parents?
Are we considering making car purchases more restrictive because of the people who drive into parades or drive drunk? Or should we ban alcohol?
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Hey Oak I understand the analogy but do you think it’s accurate to compare citizens to 4 year olds and the government as parents?
Sure. Why not?
Are we considering making car purchases more restrictive because of the people who drive into parades or drive drunk? Or should we ban alcohol?
If the government banned cars or alcohol there would be less injuries and deaths but....the impact to our economy and society would astronomical.
If the government banned guns the impact would be minimal. The biggest complaint I've seen is that people's "rights would be taken away." ::)
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Sure. Why not?
If the government banned cars or alcohol there would be less injuries and deaths but....the impact to our economy and society would astronomical.
If the government banned guns the impact would be minimal. The biggest complaint I've seen is that people's "rights would be taken away." ::)
Because you're short sighted . Defensive use with guns 500K to 2 million per year, people defend themselves using firearms. Ban firearms you create a metric fuck ton of victims of potential violent crime. ;) But Muh Rights ::)
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Because you're short sighted . Defensive use with guns 500K to 2 million per year, people defend themselves using firearms. Ban firearms you create a metric fuck ton of victims of potential violent crime. ;) But Muh Rights ::)
The literature contradicts the theory that more guns results in less murders.
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The literature contradicts the theory that more guns results in less murders.
You said if .Gov bans guns the impact would be minimal , that's ignorant ( a common theme with you ) and short sighted. You create as many as 2M victims . your ' literature is biased ) anti-gun sources " and inaccurate. You still think the AR15s were banned in 1994-2004 ::)
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The literature contradicts the theory that more guns results in less murders.
Big Facts ;)
https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/WP-Tough-Targets.pdf
That study found that there were somewhere
between 830,000 and 2.45 million defensive
gun uses per year in the United States
But if .Gov banned guns the impact would be " minimal " Wow just wow , 2.45M more victims of violent crime that's ' minimal ' ::)
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If what you are saying is correct how do you explain the data that I posted?
You never addressed it.
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If what you are saying is correct how do you explain the data that I posted?
You never addressed it.
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You NEVER addressed the vast majority of things I posted. this post included. ;) You're in over your head. you posted this and believed it it was proven to you there NEVER was a ban. How can the rate go down when the rifles were NEVER banned? I know you won't answer this because you can't , just like you still can't answer which one of these is the ' assault weapon ' ;)
It's been my experience on here that most ( not all Canadians ) aren't that sophisticated , congrats you uphold that. You already admitted you're not an " expert ' on the subject ( that's painfully obvious ) You're putting all your trust in antigun meme's made by fellow morons , enjoy you're in good company.
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If what you are saying is correct how do you explain the data that I posted?
You never addressed it.
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Hidden in the text….”among developed countries”.
Cherry-picking data to compare America with our gun-toting, law breaking, minority (13%ers) population against lily-white Switzerland.
Guns work as a deterrent toward criminal behavior. Kyle Rittenhouse single-handedly stopped BLM rioting with a few well placed bullets.
If you don’t like guns, don’t buy one. But owning one in the U.S. is a Constitutional right and that is not going to change because a crazy person shot someone.
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Hidden in the text….”among developed countries”.
Cherry-picking data to compare America with our gun-toting, law breaking, minority (13%ers) population against lily-white Switzerland.
Guns work as a deterrent toward criminal behavior. Kyle Rittenhouse single-handedly stopped BLM rioting with a few well placed bullets.
If you don’t like guns, don’t buy one. But owning one in the U.S. is a Constitutional right and that is not going to change because a crazy person shot someone.
Yeah it's a semantics game " Among developed countries " ::) They count suicides which account for the vast majority of ' gun violence ' ( 2/3rds ) then factor in the gang violence for the rest of the rate and the actual homicide rates are much lower than stated. These sites have actually used 19 year olds as stats of kids getting shot in a ' school shooting ' when it was at night and it was gang-bangers shooting each other. ::) They have a agenda and they will absolutely lie to achieve it.
Firearm-related death per 100K we're in 10th and that's with every stated above. We're actually much lower. Just like the lie they push that there has been 27 school shootings this year ::) in Fact there's been just 13 in 56 years. They don't care lie , lie and more lies.
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Yeah it's a semantics game " Among developed countries " ::) They count suicides which account for the vast majority of ' gun violence ' ( 2/3rds ) then factor in the gang violence for the rest of the rate and the actual homicide rates are much lower than stated. These sites have actually used 19 year olds as stats of kids getting shot in a ' school shooting ' when it was at night and it was gang-bangers shooting each other. ::) They have a agenda and they will absolutely lie to achieve it.
Firearm-related death per 100K we're in 10th and that's with every stated above. We're actually much lower. Just like the lie they push that there has been 27 school shootings this year ::) in Fact there's been just 13 in 56 years. They don't care lie , lie and more lies.
I've know about the varying parameters for what constitute a "Mass Shooting" there are a few different classifications out there but I'm having a hard time finding the over reporting of the 27 school shootings and what LOOSE parameters the State/Media uses to inflate them.
A little help here?
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It's been my experience on here that most ( not all Canadians ) aren't that sophisticated , congrats you uphold that.
Uh oh! Childish personal insults. We ALL know what that means.
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Oak is dumb as shit, that why he rubs mens backs and shoulders in the mall kiosk.
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Uh oh! Childish personal insults. We ALL know what that means.
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Thanks for playing ;) I gave you the benefit of the doubt first but you've earned the insult , enjoy. Again , how does the rates of gun violence go down during a ban that NEVER banned? That's a " fact "? You've yet to post a single fact. yeah I thought so 8)
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I've know about the varying parameters for what constitute a "Mass Shooting" there are a few different classifications out there but I'm having a hard time finding the over reporting of the 27 school shootings and what LOOSE parameters the State/Media uses to inflate them.
A little help here?
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/24/1101050970/2022-school-shootings-so-far
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Thanks for playing ;) I gave you the benefit of the doubt first but you've earned the insult , enjoy. Again , how does the rates of gun violence go down during a ban that NEVER banned? That's a " fact "? You've yet to post a single fact. yeah I thought so 8)
LOL
It was fun!
You do make good points.
We'll agree to disagree.
If it's any consolation, I know the US will never ban guns.
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Oak is dumb as shit, that why he rubs mens backs and shoulders in the mall kiosk.
Yes. ND is right about Canadians
As for "Among developed countries", lol.
Take out the 54% of gun deaths that are suicide, then the 70% of the remaining 46% that are committed by Blacks and Hispanics, THEN DIVIDE THE NUMBER OF MURDERS BY TEN, and THEN compare the American and Canadian murder rates.
They are exactly the same!!!
OAK is too much of a moron to understand this.
HEY OAK - WHY IS WINNIPEG SO MUCH MORE VIOLENT THAN THE AVERAGE AMERICAN CITY?
American-hating dick!
ND is right about Canadians though. ;D
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LOL
It was fun!
You do make good points.
We'll agree to disagree.
If it's any consolation, I know the US will never ban guns.
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Disagree? you're entitled to your own opinion, you're not entitled to your own facts. The facts are what they are regardless of how you feel about them.
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Yes. ND is right about Canadians
As for "Among developed countries", lol.
Take out the 54% of gun deaths that are suicide, then the 70% of the remaining 46% that are committed by Blacks and Hispanics, THEN DIVIDE THE NUMBER OF MURDERS BY TEN, and THEN compare the American and Canadian murder rates.
They are exactly the same!!!
OAK is too much of a moron to understand this.
HEY OAK - WHY IS WINNIPEG SO MUCH MORE VIOLENT THAN THE AVERAGE AMERICAN CITY?
American-hating dick!
ND is right about Canadians though. ;D
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Are you a MAN or do you merely identify as one, 'cause your posts clearly indicate you're someone in need of some MAN TRAINING. Did you grow up in a fatherless household?
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You drop 46,000,000 blacks into Canada and let me know how that works out in 10 years.
Nineteen children shot dead is the equivalent of 2-3 weekends in Chicago.
But “School Shooting” brings more money in political donations than “Gang Crossfire”.
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Sure. Why not?
If the government banned cars or alcohol there would be less injuries and deaths but....the impact to our economy and society would astronomical.
If the government banned guns the impact would be minimal. The biggest complaint I've seen is that people's "rights would be taken away." ::)
So you believe people should be treated differently based on IQ scores or general intelligence? The government knows better because they’re smarter?
The second part about banning cars/alcohol being impactful to the economy doesn’t matter because your country shut down due to the unvaccinated truckers,remember the whole violent protest?
What rights should be mandatory? Or should there be rights based on class, income or race?
Should we also consider a ban on violent movies and video games? There is undoubtedly a desensitized generation that’s growing up that is comfortable with extreme violence.
I know it sounds as simple as ban guns but a knee killed George Floyd, so it would seem there are much bigger issues than guns.
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OAK - please address the question:
What is the White American murder rate compared to the White Canadian murder rate?
How come Winnipeg, Thunder Bay, and Toronto have so much violence?
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funny, we did the same in the UK when we had a mass shooting....haven't had one since
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funny, we did the same in the UK when we had a mass shooting....haven't had one since
The state of Vermont has virtually no gun control laws and very low crime and violence rates.
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NPR The National Propaganda Radio outright lying , trying to scare John Q Pubic into believing these weapons are exceptionally dangerous when in most states you can't even hunt Deer with an AR15 ::) The same NPR that claimed there have been 27 school shooting this year alone. ::) The liberal media ate state propagandists
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NPR The National Propaganda Radio outright lying , trying to scare John Q Pubic into believing these weapons are exceptionally dangerous when in most states you can't even hunt Deer with an AR15 ::) The same NPR that claimed there have been 27 school shooting this year alone. ::) The liberal media ate state propagandists
so dangerous Ukrainian members of the public were provided with 10k automatic weapons from the West
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"Gun-control advocates want you to think that tragedies like Uvalde are more common than they are."
From Today's WSJ.
"Saturation media coverage of such terrifying events as the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, can leave some people with the impression that these things occur far more often than they do. Three years ago, on the 20th anniversary of the Columbine High School shooting in Littleton, Colo., the New York Times published an article noting that public perceptions of school safety are largely at odds with what the data show.
“The unique horror of mass shootings,” the Times reported, “means they occupy a central place in parents’ fears, and in the nation’s political debate about gun access and school safety, even though they remain rare.” Most gun-related deaths—54% in 2020—are suicides. Mass shooting casualties are less than 1% of all gun deaths, and there have been 13 mass school shootings since 1966. These data points are cold comfort to those mourning the shooting victims in Uvalde, but they ought to inform any public policy response under consideration.
There are an estimated 400 million guns in circulation in the U.S., which leads gun-control advocates to conclude that school shootings are an inevitable outcome of having so many guns around. Correlation is not causation, however, and research has failed to find a causal relationship between changes in gun-ownership rates and changes in the level of school violence involving firearms. A recent analysis of the Rand Corporation’s firearms database by the University of Oklahoma’s Daniel Hamlin found significant increases and decreases in school gun incidents during periods when gun-ownership rates remained relatively stable.
Gun violence that occurs away from school settings tells a similar story. Gun-ownership rates in rural areas are higher than in urban areas, yet our cities tend to be far more violent. Whites own firearms at much higher rates than blacks or Hispanics, yet gun violence among the latter two groups is much more commonplace. Moreover, proponents of additional gun laws ignore that shootings continue to plague places such as Chicago, which already has some of the country’s most severe gun restrictions. How passing more gun regulations, or taking guns away from the law-abiding, will deter criminals is a question they can’t answer.
Gun-control advocates in the U.S. like to make selective comparisons with other countries, such as Japan, where both gun ownership and gun crimes are lower than in the U.S. But lower levels of gun possession don’t necessarily translate into lower levels of violent crime. Gun ownership rates in Switzerland and Austria, for example, are significantly higher than in Germany, even though the Swiss and the Austrians have lower murder rates than the Germans. Likewise, Russia and Mexico have stronger gun-control laws than we do as well as higher homicide rates.
In the two decades leading up to the pandemic, legal gun sales in the U.S. rose while violent crime declined. Covid-19 no doubt helped to reverse crime trends, but the pandemic can’t explain everything. Anti-police sentiment had already been growing in the wake of fatal high-profile encounters between police and black suspects. With the blessing of progressive Democrats and most media outlets, activists have tried to reduce police resources and scapegoat law-enforcement for social inequality.
Ironically, the same people who agitate for additional gun restrictions have worked to undermine the police officers tasked with enforcing any new gun laws, and they have praised the district attorneys in San Francisco, Philadelphia, New York and elsewhere who vow not to prosecute repeat offenders.
Low-income blacks are the most frequent victims of violent crime in this country. When you diminish the quality of policing in their communities, you’re not helping matters. And gun restrictions that make it more difficult for law-abiding blacks to defend themselves and their families can only make a bad situation even worse.
Sensational killings—particularly those that occur during an election year in a deeply divided nation—are bound to be exploited by political partisans. But if policy makers want to do something constructive in response to what happened in Uvalde, they might first make sure they’re not barking up the wrong tree. In a nation with as many firearms as this one, and where gun possession is part of our tradition and protected by the Constitution, forced confiscation or voluntary disarmament are both impractical.
Deterrence is the more realistic option. Misbehaving students can be suspended and expelled if necessary. Mental-health services can be improved. Armed security guards can be employed. No one thinks turning schools into fortresses is ideal, but turning schools into gun-free zones can make them a magnet for mass shooters. When you’re worried about someone shooting back, sometimes you think twice about taking the first shot."
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Are you a MAN or do you merely identify as one, 'cause your posts clearly indicate you're someone in need of some MAN TRAINING. Did you grow up in a fatherless household?
Princess calling out OAKs man card.
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Colion Noir: Canada Freezing Handgun Ownership Proves America's Gun Confiscation Trajectory
Remember all those twats here that kept saying "Nobody wants to take your guns" ???
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"The solution to gun violence is MORE guns and LESS laws."
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"The solution to gun violence is MORE guns and LESS laws."
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No African nations with a high black population included in your Cherry-picked data.
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No African nations with a high black population included in your Cherry-picked data.
Good point!
I'm sure there's TONS of small African countries...that DON'T record gun homicide statistics...that have worse rates than the US.
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Good point!
I'm sure there's TONS of small African countries...that DON'T record gun homicide statistics...that have worse rates than the US.
Nigeria has over 200,000,000 people.
Wouldn’t be hard to Google their mass murder statistics, if you weren’t just a troll looking for attention.
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Nigeria has over 200,000,000 people.
Wouldn’t be hard to Google their mass murder statistics, if you weren’t just a troll looking for attention.
I’m sure Ted Cruz would agree with you.
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I’m sure Ted Cruz would agree with you.
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Well…that fish is one very feeble red herring.
Now post up the U.S. political donation stats for teachers and teachers unions.
I’ll wait.
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Well…that fish is one very feeble red herring.
Now post up the U.S. political donation stats for teachers and teachers unions.
I’ll wait.
Troll.
Ok.
I’ll get right on that!
Because those stats are totally related to gun control.
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"The solution to gun violence is MORE guns and LESS laws."
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"Gun" murders? So if just as many people in Canada murder others with knives, that's better somehow?
[1] Compare overall murders for both countries.
[2] Control your data for race.
[3] Come back and tell us what the USA and Canada figures are then.
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Ok.
I’ll get right on that!
Because those stats are totally related to gun control.
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Troll, it’s about as much as your chart with John McCain on it, Troll.
It’s not about gun control, it’s about the Democrats being terrified of the electorate because of their failed political ideology.
Troll.
Maybe Doctor Fraudci will create a bulletproof vaccine for you lemmings.
Troll.
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"Gun" murders? So if just as many people in Canada murder others with knives, that's better somehow?
[1] Compare overall murders for both countries.
[2] Control your data for race.
[3] Come back and tell us what the USA and Canada figures are then.
Chicago (population 9.7 million) 800 murders (2021)
Toronto (population 9.8 million) 72 murders (2021)
So much for MORE guns and LESS laws.
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Chicago (population 9.7 million) 800 murders (2021)
Toronto (population 9.8 million) 72 murders (2021)
So much for MORE guns and LESS laws.
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Again, you not only made an ass of yourself but just prove a point. How many of those guns you wanna bet were illegal? (I know that will fly right over your head)
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Chicago (population 9.7 million) 800 murders (2021)
Toronto (population 9.8 million) 72 murders (2021)
So much for MORE guns and LESS laws.
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Weak troll…1/10.
Toronto = lily white and Asian
Chicago = full of Obama’s sons
Let’s face it troll, gun control will get passed in Canada because the citizens will bend over and take it without saying a word.
Lemmings troll….lemmings.
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Weak troll…1/10.
Toronto = lily white and Asian
Chicago = full of Obama’s sons
Let’s face it troll, gun control will get passed in Canada because the citizens will bend over and take it without saying a word.
Lemmings troll….lemmings.
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Chicago (population 9.7 million) 800 murders (2021)
Toronto (population 9.8 million) 72 murders (2021)
So much for MORE guns and LESS laws.
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Over 760 of those murders [over 95%] are Black-on-Black murders.
Thank you for proving my point.
95% of those Toronto murders are Black too, LOL.
Toronto was 98.5% White in 1974. They had two murders.
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99% of the victims probably deserved it, just drains on society
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99% of the victims probably deserved it, just drains on society
I agree!
Too many stupid Americans.
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Umm…..it’s called “Gun Control”.
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Which laws would've prevented this? Because Chicago has some of the strictest ;)
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Which laws would've prevented this? Because Chicago has some of the strictest ;)
Strictest laws in the US.
Which isn’t saying much.
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Umm…..it’s called “Gun Control”.
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Joe Biden is a liar.
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Strictest laws in the US.
Which isn’t saying much.
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And your proposal is more laws , Which you know wouldn't do anything. So at this point you're just trolling
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Joe Biden is a liar.
Looks like the US is doing a “little bit better” than some 3rd world countries.
That’s great!
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Looks like the US is doing a “little bit better” than some 3rd world countries.
That’s great!
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A little better? This destroys your argument that more guns means more gun deaths ;) El Salvador has 355K registered gun and less people are their gun death rate is through the fucking roof. How is that? ??? and who are you quoting? You do this often , you're arguing with whom? and Biden is a moron of epic proportions and a liar
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A little better? This destroys your argument that more guns means more gun deaths ;) El Salvador has 355K registered gun and less people are their gun death rate is through the fucking roof. How is that? ??? and who are you quoting? You do this often , you're arguing with whom? and Biden is a moron of epic proportions and a liar
All kidding aside.
It seems like you are proposing two arguments.
1. The US doesn’t have a gun violence problem.
2. The US does have a gun violence problem but gun control isn’t the answer.
Out of curiosity, what is your argument?
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If all guns should be banned then all men should have their penis removed to stop rapes...
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Looks like the US is doing a “little bit better” than some 3rd world countries.
That’s great!
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No need to refer to Canada as a third world country.
Troll.
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All kidding aside.
It seems like you are proposing two arguments.
1. The US doesn’t have a gun violence problem.
2. The US does have a gun violence problem but gun control isn’t the answer.
Out of curiosity, what is your argument?
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Define " gun violence " because the memes your getting your " information " from lie constantly about " gun violence " to scare the ignorant into agreeing with ineffectual laws. NPR has said there have been 27 school shootings this year alone , when in FACT there have been 13 in 56 years. They count school shootings as gangbangers shooting each other on the weekend after hours as a " school shooting " and 18 and 19 year old adults as " children " ::)
They count suicides as " gun violence " it's a semantics game designed to control people and policy. They're asking for a ban again for rifles that were never banned , and once they get that and nothing changes they'll move on to the real problem handguns. Most of the gun homicides in the United states are suicides by handgun , the rest of the problem is gangbangers in cities with the heaviest and strictest gun control in this country and then you have the fringe gun homicides which make up less than 1% school/mass shootings which are exceedingly rare regardless of what you were told.
You're gullible , the mainstream media sold you a product and you bought it, you let other people think for you and you're here parroting their talking points , you've admitted you're not and expert on the subject and yet continue to spout off on a subject you're completely ignorant on using lies & propaganda because you're either to lazy to do your own research and you're just trolling congrats like the moron politicians you're quoting you've accomplished nothing other than making yourself look like a fool. Lucky for you I enjoy correcting people. However I'll only entertain your nonsense for so long before it gets boring.
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Define " gun violence " because the memes your getting your " information " from lie constantly about " gun violence " to scare the ignorant into agreeing with ineffectual laws. NPR has said there have been 27 school shootings this year alone , when in FACT there have been 13 in 56 years. They count school shootings as gangbangers shooting each other on the weekend after hours as a " school shooting " and 18 and 19 year old adults as " children " ::)
They count suicides as " gun violence " it's a semantics game designed to control people and policy. They're asking for a ban again for rifles that were never banned , and once they get that and nothing changes they'll move on to the real problem handguns. Most of the gun homicides in the United states are suicides by handgun , the rest of the problem is gangbangers in cities with the heaviest and strictest gun control in this country and then you have the fringe gun homicides which make up less than 1% school/mass shootings which are exceedingly rare regardless of what you were told.
You're gullible , the mainstream media sold you a product and you bought it, you let other people think for you and you're here parroting their talking points , you've admitted you're not and expert on the subject and yet continue to spout off on a subject you're completely ignorant on using lies & propaganda because you're either to lazy to do your own research and you're just trolling congrats like the moron politicians you're quoting you've accomplished nothing other than making yourself look like a fool. Lucky for you I enjoy correcting people. However I'll only entertain your nonsense for so long before it gets boring.
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I knew you wouldn’t answer my simple question.
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I knew you wouldn’t answer my simple question.
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I'm still waiting for you to answer mine ;) Again which one of these is the assault weapon? .........waiting , still
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If all guns should be banned then all men should have their penis removed to stop rapes...
Transphobic post reported.
The postops can rape just as well as the preops, even when they're pregnant.
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I like how Oak pastes in Lib-created meme's like they mean anything.
Maybe this guy can give you some more orders??
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True dat!
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AR15s are not " military weapons " keep posting lies. ;) 18 year old can serve and fight in a war and fire select-fire miltary grade weapons but can't buy an AR15? Makes sense to you? of course it does because you're Canadian
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AR15s are not " military weapons " keep posting lies. ;) 18 year old can serve and fight in a war and fire select-fire miltary grade weapons but can't buy an AR15? Makes sense to you? of course it does because you're Canadian
18 year old soldiers can drop nuclear bombs in a war.
Does this mean 18 year olds should be allowed to own nuclear bombs?
You probably think so…..you’re American.
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18 year old soldiers can drop nuclear bombs in a war.
Does this mean 18 year olds should be allowed to own nuclear bombs?
You probably think so…..you’re American.
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No they cant, they wouldnt be comeptant to fly a bomber at 18
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18 year old soldiers can drop nuclear bombs in a war.
Does this mean 18 year olds should be allowed to own nuclear bombs?
You probably think so…..you’re American.
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Reductio Ad Adurdum and NO 18 year olds cannot drop nuclear bombs ::) You're not even trying
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Reductio Ad Adurdum and NO 18 year olds cannot drop nuclear bombs ::) You're not even trying
How do you know this?
Are you in the Russian military?
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How do you know this?
Are you in the Russian military?
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I'll start answering your questions when you answer mine. How does gun violence rates go down during a ban when there was NO ban? explain that again , I'll wait 8)
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I'll start answering your questions when you answer mine. How does gun violence rates go down during a ban when there was NO ban? explain that again , I'll wait 8)
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I’ll take your non response to mean NO.
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I’ll take your non response to mean NO.
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You also take memes with blatant lies as fact , so it's not out of the ordinary for your level of intelligence or lack thereof , Carry on I'll be waiting for you to explain how gun violence goes down when there was no ban 8)
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Black children make up 14% of all American children.
Black children make up 63% of the children killed by guns
The U.S. doesn’t have a gun problem, the U.S. has a black violence problem.
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Black children make up 14% of all American children.
Black children make up 63% of the children killed by guns
The U.S. doesn’t have a gun problem, the U.S. has a black violence problem.
Context is key.
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Only liberals lived in fear of a flu that killed 0.001% of the three or more co-morbidity people who contracted it.
Troll meme only applies to the troll.
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Meme's as dumb, and incorrect as you, retard. ::)
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Only liberals lived in fear of a flu that killed 0.001% of the three or more co-morbidity people who contracted it.
Troll meme only applies to the troll.
So only 30,000 Americans died of COVID?
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That’s interesting. I thought gun control “didn’t work”.
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That’s interesting. I thought gun control “didn’t work”.
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And the 4 million criminals went down the street and bought a gun illegally.
Criminals don’t obey the law. So more laws have no effect on criminals.
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And the 4 million criminals went down the street and bought a gun illegally.
Criminals don’t obey the law. So more laws have no effect on criminals.
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RETARDED LIBERALS: “Gun laws don’t work, so let’s make more of them.”
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That’s interesting. I thought gun control “didn’t work”.
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First of all Google " Ghost Guns " 77,500.000 results. ;D And denied NICS check don't mean a criminal was stopped , plenty of times people initially get denied that cleared
This is science not an lying meme from an admitted anti-gun lobby ;) On to your next failure kid " Mr follow-the-science " in the Covid thread is now reduced to posting fake-news in the form of memes
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1047279718306161?via%3Dihub#!
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Why even debate what would reduce killings? It's not about deaths is it, it's about the American ideology where you value individuality, personal autonomy, "personal freedom." In many other societies the people do not mind being ruled over, they fall in line gladly. It's like the masks in Asia, they fucking love being told to wear masks, here in Europe the Asians were the first to don masks even without any rules on them. In America if you are told you have to wear a mask it's, "fuck you, you can't tell me what to do!" Even if it was proven that banning guns would stop mass shootings would the gun advocates accept bans? Of course not, it's culture and tradition, go fuck yourself with your stats. So why even debate the stats? Of course there are rational arguments both for and against bans, it's not black or white. Many think "crazies" shouldn't have guns. But how do you decide who is too crazy to have a gun? I bet Walter would ban guns from Matt :D
I'm for the maximum amount of personal autonomy, it's just the type of society I would prefer.
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So much for guns being used mainly for self defense.
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Gun laws stop killing, like paper masks stop a laboratory developed biological weapon virus.
See what I did there.
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Gun laws stop killing, like paper masks stop a laboratory developed biological weapon virus.
See what I did there.
Yes.
You made a fool of yourself…….again.
Hope this helps.
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So much for guns being used mainly for self defense.
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Unpublished CDC Study Confirms More than 2 Million Defensive Handgun Uses Annually
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/unpublished-cdc-study-confirms-2-million-defensive-handgun-uses-annually/
They didn't publish this because it contradicted what they were looking for. Even the anti-gun CDC had to concede
On to your next failure. ;)
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Unpublished CDC Study Confirms More than 2 Million Defensive Handgun Uses Annually
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/unpublished-cdc-study-confirms-2-million-defensive-handgun-uses-annually/
They didn't publish this because it contradicted what they were looking for. Even the anti-gun CDC had to concede
On to your next failure. ;)
Oh really?
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Yes.
You made a fool of yourself…….again.
Hope this helps.
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Now now troll…
This board does not tolerate personal attacks, it’s in the rules.
Works about as well as gun control in a black neighborhood.
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Oh really?
Yes. and your memes are bullshit. Hope this helps. read the article but you're not here to debate just troll and you're not even any good at that 2/10 :-\
keep trying kid , onto your next failure. I'm still laughing at the homicide rates that went down because of a banned rifle that was NEVER banned :D
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Joe Biden will solve the gun problem because he has been SO successful with SO MANY other policy issues.
Hahahahahaha.
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Yeah…..that makes sense.
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Yeah…..that makes sense.
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They're just arguing for common sense abortion control ;) and you're arguing against gun laws with this logic , congrats you finally figured out prohibition doesn't work.
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They're just arguing for common sense abortion control ;) and you're arguing against gun laws with this logic , congrats you finally figured out prohibition doesn't work.
Common sense abortion control? 🙄
You’re pro life and pro gun.
That makes sense.
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Common sense abortion control? 🙄
You’re pro life and pro gun.
That makes sense.
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That's your conclusion and interacting with you proves you draw the wrong conclusions a LOT? If you want to know my position ask ;) I'm pro choice and pro-gun , but these pro choice loonies are out of fucking control. Prohibition doesn't work for guns , abortions , drugs. The government is inept and can't fix anything.
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That's your conclusion and interacting with you proves you draw the wrong conclusions a LOT? If you want to know my position ask ;) I'm pro choice and pro-gun , but these pro choice loonies are out of fucking control. Prohibition doesn't work for guns , abortions , drugs. The government is inept and can't fix anything.
Fair enough.
This I can agree with.
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"The solution to gun violence is MORE guns and LESS laws."
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I agree. Get rid of the laws and let natural selection take place. :)
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Where are kids forced to do any of this?
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I feel like OAK goes to a dominatrix a few times a week.
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Good to see you're coming to your senses.
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Where are kids forced to do any of this?
Give it time.
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