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Saw the live stream and out of the top 5 guys felt Hadi was the clear winner. Hadi had the best conditioning and very few weak points.
My personal opinion (I am sure many will not like this stance), I am more of a fan of the Men's Physique division. I appreciate that they display nicely shaped overall muscle, a small waist, good V-taper and good abs. The look they strive for is highly marketable, will look good in ALL clothing and is attractive to both men and women. Also, there is no one who would tell me that a guy like Brandon Hendrickson is not big enough or impressive looking in terms of his proportions and muscularity.
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/images/2021/june/2-elite-athletes-on-how-fitness-impacts-their-life-and-communities-1-700xh.jpg)
I think the Mr. Olympia lineup is just filled with competitors that are too damn big. It's not aesthetically pleasing anymore. Also, those guys can barely fit into regular clothing. Women aren't into that shit, only gay men with a propensity for the odd. Besides, off season they look so damn unhealthy and bloated year round, it's not the type of role model you want to represent an industry that pushes forth the idea of "Fitness and Health". Do I think the Classic Physique is a little better? Definitely. I know that my sentiment is based on the fact that I am more of a fan of the Mr. Olympia contests from the late 70's, before hormonal supplementation was taken to another level, but even so, I just think that for this niche to survive, we will have to make it more popular to the common masses.
Anywho, congrats to Hadi. He was the obvious winner and worked hard for it.
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Saw the live stream and out of the top 5 guys felt Hadi was the clear winner. Hadi had the best conditioning and very few weak points.
My personal opinion (I am sure many will not like this stance), I am more of a fan of the Men's Physique division. I appreciate that they display nicely shaped overall muscle, a small waist, good V-taper and good abs. The look they strive for is highly marketable, will look good in ALL clothing and is attractive to both men and women. Also, there is no one who would tell me that a guy like Brandon Hendrickson is not big enough or impressive looking in terms of his proportions and muscularity.
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/images/2021/june/2-elite-athletes-on-how-fitness-impacts-their-life-and-communities-1-700xh.jpg)
I think the Mr. Olympia lineup is just filled with competitors that are too damn big. It's not aesthetically pleasing anymore. Also, those guys can barely fit into regular clothing. Women aren't into that shit, only gay men with a propensity for the odd. Besides, off season they look so damn unhealthy and bloated year round, it's not the type of role model you want to represent an industry that pushes forth the idea of "Fitness and Health". Do I think the Classic Physique is a little better? Definitely. I know that my sentiment is based on the fact that I am more of a fan of the Mr. Olympia contests from the late 70's, before hormonal supplementation was taken to another level, but even so, I just think that for this niche to survive, we will have to make it more popular to the common masses.
Anywho, congrats to Hadi. He was the obvious winner and worked hard for it.
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Based on your argument, I thought you might be pulling for Brandon Curry to regain the title. Some complain that he isn't dry or hard enough. But, isn't this obsession with extreme condition doing more damage to these fellows than merely their super-size?
I would argue that the reason the niche has survived is the internet/social media. No longer do bodybuilders have to appease mainstream media to get contest footage. I come from the days of waiting until 0-dark-30 to watch American Muscle, showing footage of contests that happens 4-6 months prior to the broadcast.
Appealing to the masses appears to be a fool's errand, much like the late Ben Weider Quixotic quest to get bodybuilding into the Olympics. People think Arnold is too big TODAY. Heck, Chris Hemsworth lamented that his wife and her friends HATED how big he got for "Thor "Love and Thunder".
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there is no one who would tell me that a guy like Brandon Hendrickson is not big enough or impressive looking in terms of his proportions and muscularity.
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/images/2021/june/2-elite-athletes-on-how-fitness-impacts-their-life-and-communities-1-700xh.jpg)
Huge without being stupidly huge etc.
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Huge without being stupidly huge etc.
Should he move to Classic? Somebody has to actually challenge Bumstead.
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Should he move to Classic? Somebody has to actually challenge Bumstead.
It sounds to me like the issue with Bumstead is they don’t apply the weight-limit rules to him.
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Saw the live stream and out of the top 5 guys felt Hadi was the clear winner. Hadi had the best conditioning and very few weak points.
My personal opinion (I am sure many will not like this stance), I am more of a fan of the Men's Physique division. I appreciate that they display nicely shaped overall muscle, a small waist, good V-taper and good abs. The look they strive for is highly marketable, will look good in ALL clothing and is attractive to both men and women. Also, there is no one who would tell me that a guy like Brandon Hendrickson is not big enough or impressive looking in terms of his proportions and muscularity.
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/images/2021/june/2-elite-athletes-on-how-fitness-impacts-their-life-and-communities-1-700xh.jpg)
I think the Mr. Olympia lineup is just filled with competitors that are too damn big. It's not aesthetically pleasing anymore. Also, those guys can barely fit into regular clothing. Women aren't into that shit, only gay men with a propensity for the odd. Besides, off season they look so damn unhealthy and bloated year round, it's not the type of role model you want to represent an industry that pushes forth the idea of "Fitness and Health". Do I think the Classic Physique is a little better? Definitely. I know that my sentiment is based on the fact that I am more of a fan of the Mr. Olympia contests from the late 70's, before hormonal supplementation was taken to another level, but even so, I just think that for this niche to survive, we will have to make it more popular to the common masses.
Anywho, congrats to Hadi. He was the obvious winner and worked hard for it.
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He is not big enough or impressive enough. Standing by himself sure but it all changes when you stand next to a bigger guy. Extreme bodybuilding has found it's support in the other categories and fitness expos bringing in more people. It was never meant to be a mainstream look that anyone could achieve. It's always just one 6 foot plus white Mr Olympia away from being mainstream. They need to bring back the height classes and drop the 212.
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Should he move to Classic? Somebody has to actually challenge Bumstead.
He would get destroyed in Classic
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Based on your argument, I thought you might be pulling for Brandon Curry to regain the title. Some complain that he isn't dry or hard enough. But, isn't this obsession with extreme condition doing more damage to these fellows than merely their super-size?
I would argue that the reason the niche has survived is the internet/social media. No longer do bodybuilders have to appease mainstream media to get contest footage. I come from the days of waiting until 0-dark-30 to watch American Muscle, showing footage of contests that happens 4-6 months prior to the broadcast.
Appealing to the masses appears to be a fool's errand, much like the late Ben Weider Quixotic quest to get bodybuilding into the Olympics. People think Arnold is too big TODAY. Heck, Chris Hemsworth lamented that his wife and her friends HATED how big he got for "Thor "Love and Thunder".
My view leans more towards what will generate the most money to keep the industry alive. Unless we are able to make this more mainstream, it will fall to the wayside. Society, Hollywood and popular culture as a whole is less moved by the sheer size of Mr. Olympia competitors. Also, I've spoken to and met many IFBB pros from the 80's up to present day and these guys don't look well in person. Again, just my opinion. I know everyone has a different view of what constitutes looking "well" or "healthy".
For me, Arnold at his prime was pretty huge. Heck, for me, guys like Paul Grant (Wales - Mr. Universe Contestant) or even Ed Corney in 1975 were just right in size and proportions. I don't think the extreme conditioning is a good thing.
If I had to pick a bodybuilder from the past that had just enough size and proportions and the right kind of conditioning, as crazy as he was, Mike Mentzer would be it. I'd even venture to say that instead of the supposed "225lb" he would compete at, he could have likely done just as good at around 205-210lb.
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/MikeMentzer2.jpg)
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I thought the placings were fair. 5th place was a gift for Ramy though
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https://www.instagram.com/p/ChnWEDRDm3A/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again
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(https://fitnessvolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/2022-Olympia-Men-Open-Results-750x422.jpg)
They all LLS.
Turnip legged blobs.
And the site that promotes this doesn't even have results or a write up on it.
All shit.
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It sounds to me like the issue with Bumstead is they don’t apply the weight-limit rules to him.
Or, just as guys in 212 starve and dehydrate themselves to make weight and fill back up to be WAY OVER the limit, Bumstead probably does the whole torture-rack thing to temporarily make himself taller.
Logan Franklin complained that the IFBB keeps measuring him at 5'111/2", even though his medical records and driver's license list him at an even 6' tall. Per the strange Classic rules, that 8-10 lbs of bodyweight for that mere half an inch.
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Or, just as guys in 212 starve and dehydrate themselves to make weight and fill back up to be WAY OVER the limit,
Exactly.
I have used this method successfully in multiple mediums.
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(https://fitnessvolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/2022-Olympia-Men-Open-Results-750x422.jpg)
They all LLS.
Turnip legged blobs.
And the site that promotes this doesn't even have results or a write up on it.
All shit.
Which one of these dudes won?
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(https://fitnessvolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/2022-Olympia-Men-Open-Results-750x422.jpg)
They all LLS.
Turnip legged blobs.
And the site that promotes this doesn't even have results or a write up on it.
All shit.
I mean.... isn't that crazy? In the day and age of information (too much information honestly)
You can't at least have a twitter or instagram with the results or a link to a short write. A 5 minute recap video on YouTube?
WTF talk about obscure...
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Insulin and seo have ruined the “sport”.
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This dude should've won
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682237.0;attach=1412956;image)
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I mean.... isn't that crazy? In the day and age of information (too much information honestly)
You can't at least have a twitter or instagram with the results or a link to a short write. A 5 minute recap video on YouTube?
WTF talk about obscure...
Totally unprofessional and ridiculous.
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Should he move to Classic? Somebody has to actually challenge Bumstead.
If anyone gets near him he will measure in at 6'6
Fucks sake guy is 6ft tall, all of a sudden hes taller so he can add extra weight
The other competitors should take legal action and have Matt officially measure him
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Top 5 was correct, although curry and walker could arguably swap places depending on judges preference
Hadi was very conditioned (for modern standards)
Ramys body is beginning to protest
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Ramy thighs look ridiculous,,not in a good way.calves suck.platz was considered an anomaly in legs for a while back in his day and still his balance overall leg wise is still pretty much unmatched .
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Top 5 was correct, although curry and walker could arguably swap places depending on judges preference
Hadi was very conditioned (for modern standards)
Ramys body is beginning to protest
Hadi is a freak for sure…problem is too many classes and pro cards given,too long shows.bbing overall on pro level at least needs something done,I’m not sure..
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My view leans more towards what will generate the most money to keep the industry alive. Unless we are able to make this more mainstream, it will fall to the wayside. Society, Hollywood and popular culture as a whole is less moved by the sheer size of Mr. Olympia competitors. Also, I've spoken to and met many IFBB pros from the 80's up to present day and these guys don't look well in person. Again, just my opinion. I know everyone has a different view of what constitutes looking "well" or "healthy".
For me, Arnold at his prime was pretty huge. Heck, for me, guys like Paul Grant (Wales - Mr. Universe Contestant) or even Ed Corney in 1975 were just right in size and proportions. I don't think the extreme conditioning is a good thing.
If I had to pick a bodybuilder from the past that had just enough size and proportions and the right kind of conditioning, as crazy as he was, Mike Mentzer would be it. I'd even venture to say that instead of the supposed "225lb" he would compete at, he could have likely done just as good at around 205-210lb.
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/MikeMentzer2.jpg)
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The issue with bodybuilding to me has more to do with the fact that, to the public at large, bodybuilders do nothing with their muscle but pose.
The closest bodybuilding has ever come to mainstream, per se, is American Gladiators, which was loaded with top NPC amateur bodybuilders and female IFBB pros. But, that had more to do their athletic prowess (Female powerball was my favorite ;D).
I guess the promoters today figure that they're never going to get mainstream acceptance. But, thanks to the internet, they no longer need it. They don't have to dance around the steroid issue; they don't have to explain away the "weirdness" of the "sport".
Hollywood has plastic suits and CGI; so the need for buffed dudes to be superheroes or 300-lbers to play the Incredible Hulk has greatly diminished.
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Should he move to Classic? Somebody has to actually challenge Bumstead.
the problem is classic physique is rigged for bumsted they change the rules and his height every year to allow him to come in bigger , they need there gay white knight to win
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The issue with bodybuilding to me has more to do with the fact that, to the public at large, bodybuilders do nothing with their muscle but pose.
That's another issue that over the years has been brought to question. Hence why I am very careful in not using the term "athlete" when discussing the Mr. Olympia competitors.
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If anyone gets near him he will measure in at 6'6
Fucks sake guy is 6ft tall, all of a sudden hes taller so he can add extra weight
The other competitors should take legal action and have Matt officially measure him
The other competitors (some of them, at least) are doing the same thing. They look better with a bit more mass but can't put it on because of the weight-height restrictions.
Stan Efferding talked about how, when he was preparing Flex Wheeler for the Classic Olympia, Wheeler looked awesome but was 4 pounds over the weight limit for his height. So, they tried using a diuretic on him and he dropped 11 pounds, figuring he'd gain that back after weigh-ins. But Wheeler didn't and he looked flat and off for the show. Once he gained his weight back, it was way too late and the show was over.
It appears now that, if a guys just a few pounds over, he'll just rack himself to be an inch taller for weight-and-height measurements.
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My view leans more towards what will generate the most money to keep the industry alive. Unless we are able to make this more mainstream, it will fall to the wayside. Society, Hollywood and popular culture as a whole is less moved by the sheer size of Mr. Olympia competitors. Also, I've spoken to and met many IFBB pros from the 80's up to present day and these guys don't look well in person. Again, just my opinion. I know everyone has a different view of what constitutes looking "well" or "healthy".
For me, Arnold at his prime was pretty huge. Heck, for me, guys like Paul Grant (Wales - Mr. Universe Contestant) or even Ed Corney in 1975 were just right in size and proportions. I don't think the extreme conditioning is a good thing.
If I had to pick a bodybuilder from the past that had just enough size and proportions and the right kind of conditioning, as crazy as he was, Mike Mentzer would be it. I'd even venture to say that instead of the supposed "225lb" he would compete at, he could have likely done just as good at around 205-210lb.
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/MikeMentzer2.jpg)
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great observation mentzer had one of the most eye pleasing physiques ever
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The other competitors (some of them, at least) are doing the same thing. They look better with a bit more mass but can't put it on because of the weight-height restrictions.
Stan Efferding talked about how, when he was preparing Flex Wheeler for the Classic Olympia, Wheeler looked awesome but was 4 pounds over the weight limit for his height. So, they tried using a diuretic on him and he dropped 11 pounds, figuring he'd gain that back after weigh-ins. But Wheeler didn't and he looked flat and off for the show. Once he gained his weight back, it was way too late and the show was over.
It appears now that, if a guys just a few pounds over, he'll just rack himself to be an inch taller for weight-and-height measurements.
its total bullshit how these crooked promoters who promote the olympia rig it for bumsted every year. it is because of his big white trash fan base on social media
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Ramy thighs look ridiculous,,not in a good way.calves suck.platz was considered an anomaly in legs for a while back in his day and still his balance overall leg wise is still pretty much unmatched .
Hopefully Ramy goes away and we don't have to hear his "winter is coming" bullshit anymore.
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Hopefully Ramy goes away and we don't have to hear his "winter is coming" bullshit anymore.
ramy is so stupid he had to use a line from game of thrones also he is a disgusting person he fucks goats and gets on stage with his posing trunks hiked up his ass crack and he had an infection in both his ass cheeks.
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its total bullshit how these crooked promoters who promote the olympia rig it for bumsted every year. it is because of his big white trash fan base on social media
How exactly are the promoters rigging the show for Bumstead, when other competitors are complaining about the height-weight rules?
I've never heard Bumstead address the issue. Perhaps, it's a case of, "be careful what you wish for....". They want to be able to come in bigger to help themselves. But that also helps Bumstead.
Plus, I thought everyone wanted the white dude. When Breon Ashley was champion, there were people clamored for a tall white guy. Now, they get him and suddenly the show is rigged for HIM?
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How exactly are the promoters rigging the show for Bumstead, when other competitors are complaining about the height-weight rules?
I've never heard Bumstead address the issue. Perhaps, it's a case of, "be careful what you wish for....". They want to be able to come in bigger to help themselves. But that also helps Bumstead.
i bet you next year he will be listed at 6-4
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The other competitors (some of them, at least) are doing the same thing. They look better with a bit more mass but can't put it on because of the weight-height restrictions.
Stan Efferding talked about how, when he was preparing Flex Wheeler for the Classic Olympia, Wheeler looked awesome but was 4 pounds over the weight limit for his height. So, they tried using a diuretic on him and he dropped 11 pounds, figuring he'd gain that back after weigh-ins. But Wheeler didn't and he looked flat and off for the show. Once he gained his weight back, it was way too late and the show was over.
It appears now that, if a guys just a few pounds over, he'll just rack himself to be an inch taller for weight-and-height measurements.
I remember that with wheeler felt like yesterday….time flies
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Andrew jacked has the height,structure,mass .imposing but it’s a shorts man game.
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Andrew jacked has the height,structure,mass .imposing but it’s a shorts man game.
nj it is quite baffling why the judges love these short ugly fuckers now, honestly in the 90's these dwarfes would not even crack top 10 andrew jacked has the structer for sure, but he is lazy in the gym i think he should let shawn ray train him for a year, shawn would actually put him through real workouts pretty pathetic shawn at 200 lbs was stronger than andrew is at 300
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Hopefully Ramy goes away and we don't have to hear his "winter is coming" bullshit anymore.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51FFCmwu9yL._SL1341_.jpg)
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Andrew jacked has the height,structure,mass .imposing but it’s a shorts man game.
Naw he got a crazy look different from these other guys. If he gets more hamstrings he can win this show. He's not young though. Everyone acting life he can have a 10yr career because he's just getting started. Doesn't change that in your late 30s you're not at your peak anymore. Like oh he's just getting started he's fresh. He's 38, he's not fresh
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Naw he got a crazy look different from these other guys. If he gets more hamstrings he can win this show. He's not young though. Everyone acting life he can have a 10yr career because he's just getting started. Doesn't change that in your late 30s you're not at your peak anymore. Like oh he's just getting started he's fresh. He's 38, he's not fresh
andrew needs to hire shawn ray to train him for a year that lil bastard will make him work unlike those crusty retards he hangs out with
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Ramy thighs look ridiculous,,not in a good way.calves suck.platz was considered an anomaly in legs for a while back in his day and still his balance overall leg wise is still pretty much unmatched .
One of the many things that suck about "modern" bodybuilding. All I hear is "his legs aren't big enough". As impressive as Platz's legs were, he lost a lot of shows because they were way out of proportion. Now this kind of imbalance is acceptable and even required. Ramy always had ridiculous turnip thighs and would have looked way better if his legs were in proportion.
This, along with too much size, large distracting tattoos, site injections, and the stupid poses they do now are just some of the things that ruin bodybuilding in it's current state. A damn shame.
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Andrew jacked has the height,structure,mass .imposing but it’s a shorts man game.
It's not a short man's game. It's an in-shape man's game. These bigger guys aren't ready for prime time, particularly the Nigerian dudes. Had Samsom Dauda come in a bit more ripped (but still healthy-looking), he could have won this thing. He has the shape and size.
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It's not a short man's game. It's an in-shape man's game. These bigger guys aren't ready for prime time, particularly the Nigerian dudes. Had Samsom Dauda come in a bit more ripped (but still healthy-looking), he could have won this thing. He has the shape and size.
agree mcway andrew is lazy and was making excuses going into this show, i doubt he will ever win the olympia, he relies on his genetics to much. and he only has a few years to reach his peak , i remember all the hype he got going into this show and he didnt do shit
flex wheeler and dorian yates got second in there first olympia outings as did levrone
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agree mcway andrew is lazy and was making excuses going into this show, i doubt he will ever win the olympia, he relies on his genetics to much. and he only has a few years to reach his peak , i remember all the hype he got going into this show and he didnt do shit
flex wheeler and dorian yates got second in there first olympia outings as did levrone
He's a rookie. He has time.
Ronnie Coleman placed "16th" his first Olympia.
Dexter Jackson placed 9th his rookie year
Jay Cutler got 15th his first go round.
Brandon Curry either got 8th or didn't place at all (I'm not quite sure).
As for relying on genetics, that was once said about Phil Heath until he finally won the big one.
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They are among the smartest rocks on the planet.
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Doesn’t anyone train forearms anymore…..most the top 5 have literally fuck all forearms in relation too “their” arms ???
Don’t have a issue with the result….who else were they going too “give it” to?
Good conditioning, more or less complete, fewer weak points etc, given the competition that night I get it
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He's a rookie. He has time.
Ronnie Coleman placed "16th" his first Olympia.
Dexter Jackson placed 9th his rookie year
Jay Cutler got 15th his first go round.
Brandon Curry either got 8th or didn't place at all (I'm not quite sure).
As for relying on genetics, that was once said about Phil Heath until he finally won the big one.
He's a 38yr old rookie. Yates and Wheeler were in their 20's as rookies. So he doesn't have that much time
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Progress huh….5ft 6 with a 40inch waist is the “Greatest physique” on planet earth 2022…..😩
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He's a 38yr old rookie. Yates and Wheeler were in their 20's as rookies. So he doesn't have that much time
Exactly and they where better bodybuilders as well Andrew isn’t even close in that aspect
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Progress huh….5ft 6 with a 40inch waist is the “Greatest physique” on planet earth 2022…..😩
They are making chicken salad out of chicken shit now
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Saw the live stream and out of the top 5 guys felt Hadi was the clear winner. Hadi had the best conditioning and very few weak points.
My personal opinion (I am sure many will not like this stance), I am more of a fan of the Men's Physique division. I appreciate that they display nicely shaped overall muscle, a small waist, good V-taper and good abs. The look they strive for is highly marketable, will look good in ALL clothing and is attractive to both men and women. Also, there is no one who would tell me that a guy like Brandon Hendrickson is not big enough or impressive looking in terms of his proportions and muscularity.
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/images/2021/june/2-elite-athletes-on-how-fitness-impacts-their-life-and-communities-1-700xh.jpg)
I think the Mr. Olympia lineup is just filled with competitors that are too damn big. It's not aesthetically pleasing anymore. Also, those guys can barely fit into regular clothing. Women aren't into that shit, only gay men with a propensity for the odd. Besides, off season they look so damn unhealthy and bloated year round, it's not the type of role model you want to represent an industry that pushes forth the idea of "Fitness and Health". Do I think the Classic Physique is a little better? Definitely. I know that my sentiment is based on the fact that I am more of a fan of the Mr. Olympia contests from the late 70's, before hormonal supplementation was taken to another level, but even so, I just think that for this niche to survive, we will have to make it more popular to the common masses.
Anywho, congrats to Hadi. He was the obvious winner and worked hard for it.
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As you suggest, many if not most pro bodybuilders today are 'too damn big' and esthetically lacking. They are not inspirational. Who aspires to have that look and probably end up unhealthy or death too early in life. Also, unless someone lives in a nudist colony, they wear clothes most of the time. There are very few manufacturers making clothing designed for ginormous bodybuilder physiques. This results in them wearing ill fitting clothing which often result in them looking like clown superheroes. This is a fringe group of people.
I am old and no doubt out-of-touch with today’s bodybuilding trends. The 50’s – 80’s classic bodybuilders were my inspiration. Men’s physique division competitors more closely resemble Steve Reeves, Vince Gironda, Larry Scott, Serge Nubret, Frank Zane, and Bob Paris to name just a few. One might say today competitors physiques are more refined than their predecessors because more is known about nutrition, supplements, and training routines.
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great observation mentzer had one of the most eye pleasing physiques ever
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682267.0;attach=1413270;image)
this
that is the photo that got me wanting to start develop my body.
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this
that is the photo that got me wanting to start develop my body.
And yet at the end he was trying to have Marcus Reinhardt, a nobody kid from Germany, train him for a comeback. That's like Einstein getting math tutoring from a High School physics teacher.
I had further conversations with him much later, talks in which he was lucid, no longer bitter about the '80 Olympia ("water under the bridge," he said) and, while he came to ridiculous conclusions about training, he himself wanted Marcus Reinhardt to train *him* for a comeback.
While that's both laughable and sad at the same time -- Mike, near death, thinking about training again -- it says something that he'd put such confidence in Marcus who, albeit a HIT guy, advocates plenty more work than Mike's latter day methods.
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this
that is the photo that got me wanting to start develop my body.
Here is another that clown and cuck bumstead will never look this good
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Here is another that clown and cuck bumstead will never look this good
Rather be over 6' and be Bumstead than that midget.
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Rather be over 6' and be Bumstead than that midget.
Yep Bumstead beats Mentzer in my book
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me 33 years ago
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The issue with bodybuilding to me has more to do with the fact that, to the public at large, bodybuilders do nothing with their muscle but pose.
The closest bodybuilding has ever come to mainstream, per se, is American Gladiators, which was loaded with top NPC amateur bodybuilders and female IFBB pros. But, that had more to do their athletic prowess (Female powerball was my favorite ;D).
I guess the promoters today figure that they're never going to get mainstream acceptance. But, thanks to the internet, they no longer need it. They don't have to dance around the steroid issue; they don't have to explain away the "weirdness" of the "sport".
Hollywood has plastic suits and CGI; so the need for buffed dudes to be superheroes or 300-lbers to play the Incredible Hulk has greatly diminished.
Are you kidding have you forgotten abot professional wrestling? How many NPC bodybuilders wound up in the WWF and WWE millions of more viewers than American gladiators
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My view leans more towards what will generate the most money to keep the industry alive. Unless we are able to make this more mainstream, it will fall to the wayside. Society, Hollywood and popular culture as a whole is less moved by the sheer size of Mr. Olympia competitors. Also, I've spoken to and met many IFBB pros from the 80's up to present day and these guys don't look well in person. Again, just my opinion. I know everyone has a different view of what constitutes looking "well" or "healthy".
For me, Arnold at his prime was pretty huge. Heck, for me, guys like Paul Grant (Wales - Mr. Universe Contestant) or even Ed Corney in 1975 were just right in size and proportions. I don't think the extreme conditioning is a good thing.
If I had to pick a bodybuilder from the past that had just enough size and proportions and the right kind of conditioning, as crazy as he was, Mike Mentzer would be it. I'd even venture to say that instead of the supposed "225lb" he would compete at, he could have likely done just as good at around 205-210lb.
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/MikeMentzer2.jpg)
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arnold>mike. would like to see bodybuilding go back in this direction.
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Hazbin,
You are/were a savage man!
Excellent lines and proportions. Very impressive man!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682267.0;attach=1413350;image)
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Hazbin,
You are/were a savage man!
Excellent lines and proportions. Very impressive man!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682267.0;attach=1413350;image)
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thank you!!!
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Haz,you`re brutally crushing Bumstead!! :D
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Haz,you`re brutally crushing Bumstead!! :D
thanks Tim. not saying i'm as good, just a comparison to the good old days.
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Hazbin,
You are/were a savage man!
Excellent lines and proportions. Very impressive man!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682267.0;attach=1413350;image)
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More proof that the past can better than the present. A superb physique that makes CBum look like his name.
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More proof that the past can better than the present. A superb physique that makes CBum look like his name.
i'm 207 at just under 5'10 there so he'd blow me away side by side.
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i'm 207 at just under 5'10 there so he'd blow me away side by side.
A pile of shit is a pile of shit. A bigger pile of shit is just a bigger pile of shit.
Your physique was excellent. His? It is good but he does not look like something built by intelligent design, if you will. He is that bigger pile of shit.
Bodybuilding is highly subjective and I prefer the '40s through 1983 or so.
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A pile of shit is a pile of shit. A bigger pile of shit is just a bigger pile of shit.
Your physique was excellent. His? It is good but he does not look like something built by intelligent design, if you will. He is that bigger pile of shit.
Bodybuilding is highly subjective and I prefer the '40s through 1983 or so.
agreed on the era. big fan of Dorian and Ronnie as well, they trained hard like the old school guys.
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Haz,you`re brutally crushing Bumstead!! :D
Hell yeah he is
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agreed on the era. big fan of Dorian and Ronnie as well, they trained hard like the old school guys.
Yup. Well said.
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Hell yeah he is
This ^ is the troof!
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agreed on the era. big fan of Dorian and Ronnie as well, they trained hard like the old school guys.
Hell Shawn ray trained harder than these guys he was stronger than Andrew jacked and he outweighs Shawn by at least 80 lbs
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Are you kidding have you forgotten abot professional wrestling? How many NPC bodybuilders wound up in the WWF and WWE millions of more viewers than American gladiators
And plenty of other wrestlers looked nothing like NPC bodybuilders and made millions in the WWF or WCW.
Umaga, Yokozuna, Earthquake, Dusty Rhodes, Ric Flair, JYD.....not exactly stage ready. Plus, we've all seen our share of bodybuilders FLOP trying to be wrestlers: Paul Dillett, Achim "Brakus" Albrecht, Rene Dupree, Aaron Baker.....just to name a few.
Most of the Gladiators were NPC or IFBB bodybuilders.
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me 33 years ago
207lb? ::) 225lb bhank destroys you
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Thoughts….Chick is fat!
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207lb? ::) 225lb bhank destroys you
How can Bank have abs with zero bodyfat and yet still have a bloated, distended stomach?
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How can Bank have abs with zero bodyfat and yet still have a bloated, distended stomach?
he suffers from cobbleritis
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Gone downhill. Amazing how guys can’t apply tan correctly still at this level. Hunter looks like a fat faced 300 lbs man. Ramy walking on stage with an an infection in his glute. No one except Hadi was conditioned, and not even at his best conditioning.
The sport has steadily gone downhill the last few years.
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207lb? ::) 225lb bhank destroys you
I’ve clearly stated that in another thread.
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Progress huh….5ft 6 with a 40inch waist is the “Greatest physique” on planet earth 2022…..😩
Gear doesn’t seem to work on calves🤔
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207lb? ::) 225lb bhank destroys you
I mean at least use the one I didn't post as a joke when I was learning the pose this one is a little better but it is a difficult pose. Bhanks Pics are not 33 years old so yeah Bhank does destroy him today.
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I mean at least use the one I didn't post as a joke when I was learning the pose this one is a little better but it is a difficult pose. Bhanks Pics are not 33 years old so yeah Bhank does destroy him today.
i could use your legs to pick my teeth
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I mean at least use the one I didn't post as a joke when I was learning the pose this one is a little better but it is a difficult pose. Bhanks Pics are not 33 years old so yeah Bhank does destroy him today.
Need to open up a little more so the schmoes can get a feel for how big your cock is.
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I mean at least use the one I didn't post as a joke when I was learning the pose this one is a little better but it is a difficult pose. Bhanks Pics are not 33 years old so yeah Bhank does destroy him today.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682267.0;attach=1413398;image)
It's as if the mighty demi-god himself had come down from Mt. SchmOelympuss and displayed the physique rewards of his tireless labors in the gym. Call it...Le dodici fatiche di Jerquleazee...
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Gone downhill. Amazing how guys can’t apply tan correctly still at this level. Hunter looks like a fat faced 300 lbs man. Ramy walking on stage with an an infection in his glute. No one except Hadi was conditioned, and not even at his best conditioning.
The sport has steadily gone downhill the last few years.
It started going downhill since the late nineties and hasn't stopped.
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I have said it before Bodybuilding began as a form of art. The current crop simply drug induced graffiti. Its a terrible look makes you embarrassed to once have called yourself a bodybuilder. Classic I can live with but like others have said, its being corrupted. Guys are growing taller as they age rather than shorter. Go figure.
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207lb? ::) 225lb bhank destroys you
Lol at that bhanks pose! My god, how delusional he must be to think he looks good in that pose.
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I mean at least use the one I didn't post as a joke when I was learning the pose this one is a little better but it is a difficult pose. Bhanks Pics are not 33 years old so yeah Bhank does destroy him today.
His genetics are 100x yours.
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me 33 years ago
That looks like Matt Mendenhall. In that pose, Bumstead is beaten. Great physique!
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Haz,you`re brutally crushing Bumstead!! :D
Agreed! Bumstead is hitting that shot wrong, or facing the camera the wrong way. It makes his butt look big with small legs.
Bumstead has looked better in that pose before.
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Haz,you`re brutally crushing Bumstead!! :D
Bumstead deserved his win though. Impressive physique, no doubt about that!
(https://preview.redd.it/86cbq3kozm6a1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=11a404b02f66999e763dde02e4f8e6d6fcd75144)
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Bumstead dwarfing Urs.
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His genetics are 100x yours.
33 years is a long time he was what 25 years old in his pic and is what late 50s now? Let’s see now because if he is a soggy old man now who gives a fuck what he looked like 33 years ago. My hair was great at 25 years old but neither of us is 25 years old anymore. He is probably two decades younger than me in his pic.
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:D
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:D
Now you will face the wrath that is a belittled bhanks
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"They all look like hammered shit"
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You look great Big Rio. I don’t usually post old pics but they kept posting the worst old pic they could find so I posted one that I think was a little better. Didn’t mean to hijacker’s this thread I also thought the other guys old pic looked great but as always these guys wanted to compare to me like some kind of getbig Benchmark I guess. Anyway here is one from this morning at 219lbs not on your level but still showing abs and vascular arms.
I have been in a rest Deload this last week planning to start up training again today.
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Bumstead deserved his win though. Impressive physique, no doubt about that!
(https://preview.redd.it/86cbq3kozm6a1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=11a404b02f66999e763dde02e4f8e6d6fcd75144)
Oh Hell yeah,he looks great for sure!!
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I mean at least use the one I didn't post as a joke when I was learning the pose this one is a little better but it is a difficult pose. Bhanks Pics are not 33 years old so yeah Bhank does destroy him today.
You are without a doubt the biggest total asshole that has ever been on getbig.
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You look great Big Rio. I don’t usually post old pics but they kept posting the worst old pic they could find so I posted one that I think was a little better. Didn’t mean to hijacker’s this thread I also thought the other guys old pic looked great but as always these guys wanted to compare to me like some kind of getbig Benchmark I guess. Anyway here is one from this morning at 219lbs not on your level but still showing abs and vascular arms.
I have been in a rest Deload this last week planning to start up training again today.
What mgs per week of test do you do?
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What mgs per week of test do you do?
Either an unverfiable lie or a non=direct answer coming. Post the bottle pic
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Bumstead deserved his win though. Impressive physique, no doubt about that!
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he looks amazing. nohomo.
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me 33 years ago
Careful Bhanks is coming in for a comparison.
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What mgs per week of test do you do?
Nothing the last 11 days. I wanted to feel best for my curl contest then snowboarding didn’t want to risk any bruising mobility issues in the hip and glutes or quads.
I have been watching James Tiny Vest and he recommends staying in the 250-500 range so that is what I try and do. This year I am going to focus more on strength development than weight and just let the body do what it does. I seem to respond best and look my best when I train for strength less exercises heavier and eat regular vs stuffing myself and getting lost in sets and reps. But I am planning to train differently this year more cycles of heavy low reps followed a week off then higher reps to lower again not going to do the same thing every week plan to train in high low rep cycles this year. I don’t know I kind of do the same thing with my weight but a lot of that is based on my digestion. When it’s not good I don’t eat as much. But yeah going to do volume for a couple weeks then heavy then rest then repeat. Main thing is just to keep squatting once a week and keep curling every week if I do those two things I will make gains. Obviously still need to train back and chest but sometimes arms get left behind incorporated into chest and back day and they need their own day. And yeah can’t skip leg day
What about yourself what are you current stats and protocol?
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I mean at least use the one I didn't post as a joke when I was learning the pose this one is a little better but it is a difficult pose. Bhanks Pics are not 33 years old so yeah Bhank does destroy him today.
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https://mrolympia.com/
Results still not up
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Nothing the last 11 days. I wanted to feel best for my curl contest then snowboarding didn’t want to risk any bruising mobility issues in the hip and glutes or quads.
I have been watching James Tiny Vest and he recommends staying in the 250-500 range so that is what I try and do. This year I am going to focus more on strength development than weight and just let the body do what it does. I seem to respond best and look my best when I train for strength less exercises heavier and eat regular vs stuffing myself and getting lost in sets and reps. But I am planning to train differently this year more cycles of heavy low reps followed a week off then higher reps to lower again not going to do the same thing every week plan to train in high low rep cycles this year. I don’t know I kind of do the same thing with my weight but a lot of that is based on my digestion. When it’s not good I don’t eat as much. But yeah going to do volume for a couple weeks then heavy then rest then repeat. Main thing is just to keep squatting once a week and keep curling every week if I do those two things I will make gains. Obviously still need to train back and chest but sometimes arms get left behind incorporated into chest and back day and they need their own day. And yeah can’t skip leg day
What about yourself what are you current stats and protocol?
Hahahahahahah..."what James Tiny vest recommends"
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Hahahahahahah..."what James Tiny vest recommends"
Yes,haven`t you heard, James Tiny Vest is Hankys doctor ? :D
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6'1'' 225 vs. 5'11" 225
Damn close. Its a toss-up.
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The Olympia now sucks.
Not least because the physiques are mostly junk.
But also because of the 1500 categories.
As well, it’s all become so trendy and cringe.
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I don’t usually post old pics
You've posted a hundred old pics during your getbig career
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6'1'' 225 vs. 5'11" 225
Damn close. Its a toss-up.
He weighed in at 237lbs the night before he was probably 250lbs on stage and he is 6 foot tall the height thing was an inch over his spiked up hair
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33 years is a long time he was what 25 years old in his pic and is what late 50s now? Let’s see now because if he is a soggy old man now who gives a fuck what he looked like 33 years ago. My hair was great at 25 years old but neither of us is 25 years old anymore. He is probably two decades younger than me in his pic.
Brian i am a fan of yours. not sure why you are continuously derisive to me. just because i posted a pic on a bodybuilding board does not mean i am saying anything about you or putting you down.
but you are correct, i am 57 and haven't trained much at all in the last ten years. i hit the gym 11 times one month when i was 53 and here is how i looked.
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6'1'' 225 vs. 5'11" 225
Damn close. Its a toss-up.
Very close, but I think BHANKS has him beat.
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Agreed! Bumstead is hitting that shot wrong, or facing the camera the wrong way. It makes his butt look big with small legs.
Bumstead has looked better in that pose before.
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i agree Chris looks amazing there, and light years ahead of anything i ever achieved.
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The Olympia now sucks.
Not least because the physiques are mostly junk.
But also because of the 1500 categories.
As well, it’s all become so trendy and cringe.
i concur with the Fortress. i was training back when they brought in the Ms. Olympia and thinking ' there is only one Olympia champ per year'.
now there are 11 different categories, each with multiple weight classes; all of which refer to themselves as Olympia champion.
even when they had two weight classes, Mentzer wasn't called the heavyweight class mr. Olympia - they said he lost to Zane.
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Brian i am a fan of yours. not sure why you are continuously derisive to me.
Because he`s an insecure asshole for starters.
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Because he`s an insecure asshole for starters.
I gave up a long time ago myself. Not sure if its a troll job or just mental insanity
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I`d go with mental insanity.
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I respect all the great warriors who stepped on that stage this weekend.
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me 33 years ago
Don't take this the wrong way, but Chris has you on glutes.
No homo.
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It's like today's guys love social media more than the bodybuilding lifestyle
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Brian i am a fan of yours. not sure why you are continuously derisive to me. just because i posted a pic on a bodybuilding board does not mean i am saying anything about you or putting you down.
but you are correct, i am 57 and haven't trained much at all in the last ten years. i hit the gym 11 times one month when i was 53 and here is how i looked.
You looked good then. And shockingly you look better at 53. I only made the comment after Webster or whoever made the comparison talking shit. Why not get back into it now?? You were in great shape at 53 seems you could rally at 57.
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You looked good then. And shockingly you look better at 53. I only made the comment after Webster or whoever made the comparison talking shit. Why not get back into it now?? You were in great shape at 53 seems you could rally at 57.
cool, thanks for explaining. i got bored with it. it was the most important thing in my life since i was ten years old. i had a large commercial gym for 25 years and sold it in 2015. it totally took any joy of training out of my life. not saying i won't train again, but no ambition right now.
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cool, thanks for explaining. i got bored with it. it was the most important thing in my life since i was ten years old. i had a large commercial gym for 25 years and sold it in 2015. it totally took any joy of training out of my life. not saying i won't train again, but no ambition right now.
what gym was it ?, in Calgary right ?
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what gym was it ?, in Calgary right ?
yes, probodies gym
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cool, thanks for explaining. i got bored with it. it was the most important thing in my life since i was ten years old. i had a large commercial gym for 25 years and sold it in 2015. it totally took any joy of training out of my life. not saying i won't train again, but no ambition right now.
Bored is better than injured. You just need to find something to train for or someone to train with or something different but related to motivate yourself. Weightlifing and bodybuilding is fun but maybe train for a strict curl contest or try arm wrestling or strongman I bet you could take Matt C but you get the idea. Or train a young person and pass on your knowledge while also training with them of course. Make it fun again
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6'1'' 225 vs. 5'11" 225
Damn close. Its a toss-up.
Reminds me of the Film Twins... Arnold got all the Good Genetics
& Bianca bhanks all the Dud ones.
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i concur with the Fortress. i was training back when they brought in the Ms. Olympia and thinking ' there is only one Olympia champ per year'.
now there are 11 different categories, each with multiple weight classes; all of which refer to themselves as Olympia champion.
even when they had two weight classes, Mentzer wasn't called the heavyweight class mr. Olympia - they said he lost to Zane.
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Boxing has gone the same way - now there's 5/6 world champions at each weight class
& the Number of Weight classes has Doubled
And Folk used to Laugh at WWF !!
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I'm certain they'll soon have a Mr. Midgie O and a MiR Tranz O and a Ms ShenisO.
FTN. There should be a Mr. Olympia and that's that. I think the shorter guys are fantastic when built like the men of the eighties, i.e., Class. Aesthetic over pathetic, if l may... ;D
Padilla was not a tall guy and I think he was robbed at least once or twice. He was excellent! I know that for some it's a big deal to get a pro card but to me it more than appears it's a like a GoFuckMe Card. All about paying up.
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i concur with the Fortress. i was training back when they brought in the Ms. Olympia and thinking ' there is only one Olympia champ per year'.
now there are 11 different categories, each with multiple weight classes; all of which refer to themselves as Olympia champion.
even when they had two weight classes, Mentzer wasn't called the heavyweight class mr. Olympia - they said he lost to Zane.
But, at least the Ms. Olympia was its own separate show.
Then they couldn't make up their minds whether they wanted the women to come in soft, curvy, and feminine or go for the horse-face look.
Then came Fitness, which was supposed to replace female bodybuilding (which I think DIED the instant Lenda Murray lost to Kim Chivesky in 1996).
But, the fitness shows had their own problems. The fitness girls who were winning shows, where the the physique round was 50% of the score, got DESTROYED at other shows where the fitness routine was 50% of the score. The girls who were ex-gymnasts were murdering the ones who just looked hot in a bikini.
They tried an obstacle course with the Galaxy contest and that was WORSE. Girls who weren't really athletes were twisting and breaking bones, left and right.
Here comes Figure. You don't have to do anything; just stand there. But they got "too big".
Now comes Bikini, for girls who don't have lats. But some don't have much else either (except for $10,000+ boob jobs). And since these Brazilian girls can't starve away all that junk in the trunk....
WELLNESS is born!!
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cool, thanks for explaining. i got bored with it. it was the most important thing in my life since i was ten years old. i had a large commercial gym for 25 years and sold it in 2015. it totally took any joy of training out of my life. not saying i won't train again, but no ambition right now.
Ron's approval of new accounts has slowed to a crawl.
You should register wazwazhazbin now just in case you forget your password again.
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He's a 38yr old rookie. Yates and Wheeler were in their 20's as rookies. So he doesn't have that much time
Chris Dickerson and Shawn Rhoden won their first Olympia titles in the mid 40s. Dexter Jackson competed an extra decade, winning nearly everything except the Olympia again (and he came close in 2015), when people thought he was washed up in 2010.
If he takes care of himself, he has the time to improve.
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Ron's approval of new accounts has slowed to a crawl.
You should register wazwazhazbin now just in case you forget your password again.
haha yes. it did take a while.
i was thinking wazbin
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Exactly.
I have used this method successfully in multiple mediums.
Johnnie Jackson said he did the same thing. Branch Warren saw him at the 2001 Nationals, declaring, "There ain't no way that mother(#*@) is 198 lbs. That's some bull$^*@!!".
Jackson said he nibbled away at a 10-oz chicken breast for an entire week (along with dehydrating himself) to make the light-heavyweight max. The next day, he reportedly weighted 217 on stage.
Now, the Classic guys are putting themselves on inversion tables (I call them "torture racks") to gain an extra half-inch or so, in order to compete at heavier bodyweights.
That's what Logan Franklin wants to do. But, he again complains that the IFBB keeps measuring him at 5'111/2", when his government docs and medical records have him listed at 6' tall.
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Blessing Awodibu ran his big fat mouth, talking smack about Nick Walker.
Walker gets the bronze; Awodibu placed "16th".
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Blessing Awodibu ran his big fat mouth, talking smack about Nick Walker.
Walker gets the bronze; Awodibu placed "16th".
And Blessing was in good company in doing so.
None of those zillion 16th. place guys should have even been competing.....makes the Olympia look like any old run of the mill show instead of what it was originally intended to be.
They should figure out a way to set a certain cap for the amount of contestants.
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Blessing Awodibu ran his big fat mouth, talking smack about Nick Walker.
Walker gets the bronze; Awodibu placed "16th".
hes lucky he didnt get deported back to wakanda
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And Blessing was in good company in doing so.
None of those zillion 16th. place guys should have even been competing.....makes the Olympia look like any old run of the mill show instead of what it was originally intended to be.
They should figure out a way to set a certain cap for the amount of contestants.
I thought they did that already, when they changed the rules to allow only those who win shows to qualify for the Olympia.
It's not top 3 at a Grand Prix show, top 5 at the Arnold, or top 10 at the previous year's Olympia anymore.
Then you have one special invite (how Big Ramy got to and won the O in 2020 and how Lunsford made it this year) and the points system for one guy who didn't win a show but consistently placed high at multiple shows.