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Title: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 10, 2025, 12:11:00 PM
I think it was his neck.

I don’t know if he is actually hurt badly or not.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/charlie-kirk-shot-utah
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 12:16:14 PM
hes gotta be dead

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1ndndl9/charlie_kirk_shot_dead_nsfw/
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 12:19:45 PM
https://x.com/HarrisonKrank/status/1965853928039538830

This is the man that shot Charlie Kirk, the mainstream media has rotted the minds of our nations elderly to the point they are becoming terrorists
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on September 10, 2025, 12:23:07 PM
Doesn't look good; hope he pulls through. Liberals don't want speach that they don't agree with heard. Off topic, the old guy looks ridiculous in shorts at his age.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Zillotch on September 10, 2025, 12:24:42 PM
https://old.bitchute.com/video/CWigJ24bgFEQ/
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2025, 12:28:28 PM
This isn’t good. Not good at all

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DObtiB7Erk9/?igsh=YjB0NDBnZ2tnM2Y0
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Zillotch on September 10, 2025, 12:29:50 PM
‘violence’.. was the last word out of his mouth.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: IroNat on September 10, 2025, 12:34:27 PM
That looked like a fatal shot.
No way could he survive it.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on September 10, 2025, 12:37:17 PM
I bet the old loser was angry because he thought Kirk was a racist and homophobic and sexist and blah blah blah that the left tags you with. Pops will learn a big lesson about race when he gets to prison. He'll join the Aryan's as fast as he can if they'll take him.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: IroNat on September 10, 2025, 12:39:59 PM
I bet the old loser was angry because he thought Kirk was a racist and homophobic and sexist and blah blah blah that the left tags you with. Pops will learn a big lesson about race when he gets to prison. He'll join the Aryan's as fast as he can if they'll take him.

Probably a now old 60's hippie who marched around his college campus in 1970.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 12:42:19 PM
MSNBC actually said that "it could have been a Charlie Kirk supporter shooting his gun off in celebration" wowwwwwwwww someone needs to be beaten to death there

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1965859573644013694
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: BB on September 10, 2025, 12:44:30 PM
That looked like a fatal shot.
No way could he survive it.

Yes, no way. The amount of blood right when the clip ends is crazy.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on September 10, 2025, 12:44:55 PM
Dude is 57-year old Ian Bruce Eckersley of Payson, Utah per Liberty Memes on Twitter.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: IroNat on September 10, 2025, 12:45:37 PM
The old guy said something.
Anybody decipher it?
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 12:46:05 PM
Dude is 57-year old Ian Bruce Eckersley of Payson, Utah per Liberty Memes on Twitter.

geezus Im 2 years olderthan him and he looks 20 years older than me. wtf
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: IroNat on September 10, 2025, 12:46:09 PM
Dude is 57-year old Ian Bruce Eckersley of Payson, Utah per Liberty Memes on Twitter.

He looks much older than 57.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 12:49:46 PM
anddddd just now

Benjamin Allbright reposted
AZ Intel
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BREAKING: Multiple people shot at Evergreen High School in Jefferson County, Colorado. - reports
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 12:52:03 PM
how in the royal fuck is he not dead??????????

Charlie Kirk Wounded in Utah Campus Shooting
Last updated
49 minutes ago
Conservative commentator Charlie Kirk was shot near the neck during a Turning Point USA event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, on Wednesday afternoon. The incident erupted amid a student Q&A session, causing chaos as attendees fled; a suspect is in custody, and Kirk's condition is serious but not life-threatening. No other injuries were reported, with reactions from public figures highlighting concerns over political violence.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Dave D on September 10, 2025, 12:53:44 PM
Yes, no way. The amount of blood right when the clip ends is crazy.

That was an insane amount of blood….
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on September 10, 2025, 12:53:50 PM
He looks much older than 57.
That's what I"m talking bout! I'm 59 and dude looks way older than me. Makes me feel good. I think I'll stick to that stupid diet my wife has me following.  :)
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on September 10, 2025, 12:56:55 PM
The old guy said something.
Anybody decipher it?
I think he said "Trans women ARE women!" or "Black Lives Matter" or "Trump Stole the Election!" or "Free Palestine!"
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: kevin25 on September 10, 2025, 12:58:09 PM
how in the royal fuck is he not dead??????????

5,4,3.....
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Dave D on September 10, 2025, 01:01:57 PM
how in the royal fuck is he not dead??????????

Charlie Kirk Wounded in Utah Campus Shooting
Last updated
49 minutes ago
Conservative commentator Charlie Kirk was shot near the neck during a Turning Point USA event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, on Wednesday afternoon. The incident erupted amid a student Q&A session, causing chaos as attendees fled; a suspect is in custody, and Kirk's condition is serious but not life-threatening. No other injuries were reported, with reactions from public figures highlighting concerns over political violence.

What!! Non life threatening! That’s crazy.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on September 10, 2025, 01:07:26 PM
Video of Pops getting arrested. Looks like his pants dropped. He fell down and had to be picked up and taken away. Pu$$y!

https://x.com/DailyMail/status/1965869115928613277
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 10, 2025, 01:13:29 PM
Old friend of mine got shot in the neck and survived with only a bad-ass scar. Another guy took a more direct hit like this and ended up a paraplegic. I'd be surprised if he's not paralyzed.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: joswift on September 10, 2025, 01:14:25 PM
https://theworldwatch.com/videos/1636007/charlie-kirk-shot-in-the-neck-at-utah-campus/
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on September 10, 2025, 01:15:37 PM
Woah! Now the cops are saying Pops IS NOT the shooter.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: joswift on September 10, 2025, 01:16:52 PM
Woah! Now the cops are saying Pops IS NOT the shooter.
he told them he was trans...
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Lartinos on September 10, 2025, 01:18:52 PM
I like Charlie and I hope he pulls through. I guess when you oppose evil people on a daily basis it puts you at danger.

If that guy is 57 he ages in similar fashion as Bhank, but Bhank is still the king of hyper aging himself.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2025, 01:25:11 PM
I posted this on X almost two hours ago that I thought the shot came from the top of the buildings and sounded like a sniper rifle possibly a .308. I could be wrong with the caliber because of the echo seeing that the shot was around the quad area where the stadium bowl is...

Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: BB on September 10, 2025, 01:28:42 PM
Old guy's name is George Zimm, he is known to the event organizers, and apparently follows their events around making threats. he threatened to fist fight Kirk before.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: joswift on September 10, 2025, 01:30:24 PM
I posted this on X almost two hours ago that I thought the shot came from the top of the buildings and sounded like a sniper rifle possibly a .308. I could be wrong with the caliber because of the echo seeing that the shot was around the quad area where the stadium bowl is...

was there a grassy knoll in the area?
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Rambone on September 10, 2025, 01:30:50 PM
It’s a miracle that he still has a heartbeat at this point. They don’t have the suspect (shocker)
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Rambone on September 10, 2025, 01:32:30 PM
I like Charlie and I hope he pulls through. I guess when you oppose evil people on a daily basis it puts you at danger.

If that guy is 57 he ages in similar fashion as Bhank, but Bhank is still the king of hyper aging himself.

Don’t let the UPS driver know that you like Charlie
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2025, 01:33:09 PM
was there a grassy knoll in the area?

You forget what I do
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: joswift on September 10, 2025, 01:36:43 PM
Don’t let the UPS driver know that you like Charlie

 ;D. thats funny
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 10, 2025, 01:52:25 PM
Dead.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: BB on September 10, 2025, 01:52:52 PM
Trump just reported he's gone :-\.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Super Nattie on September 10, 2025, 01:54:03 PM
RIP  :'(
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: joswift on September 10, 2025, 02:00:12 PM
that was a rifle shot from distance
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2025, 02:01:44 PM
you sell tee shirts

Thousands along with shooting thousands of rounds a week
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Darren Avey on September 10, 2025, 02:11:00 PM
Lefty scum are gonna get it
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 10, 2025, 02:11:48 PM
RIP

I was critical of him due to some of his stances but I didn't wish him dead or anything like that. This will be a pretty big deal in the internet circles I follow.

Haven't read more about this other than seeing this thread.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Kwon on September 10, 2025, 02:22:58 PM
RIP CHarlie
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: nobody in particular on September 10, 2025, 02:23:36 PM
I don't agree with everything he's ever said (I wouldn't want to meet anyone who I did either!) but he was a free speech champ and would debate anyone, which is no doubt what scared his opponents so much - they're used to an unopposed narrative. Fuck I hope the talk that he is rip is not accurate.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Lartinos on September 10, 2025, 02:25:10 PM
Very sad news, this is more than just another celebrity death to me.

I started showing my wife his clips quite a while ago. I also went to one of his events with my wife some years ago.

She is upset right now and cried a bit.

At that event he had Giuliani and Glen Beck as well.

I think Charlie was really influential to the point someone got threatened. Probably a leftist, but politics is a dirty game.






Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Hulkotron on September 10, 2025, 02:29:18 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 10, 2025, 02:30:35 PM
Bad shit. I just clicked on the tv and they had pic of him with his wife and kids. Not going to lie, it made me emotional. I didn’t know the guy personally or anything, but he seemed decent and lived a decent life. Some piece of garbage cut that short and robbed a family of their patriarch. Fucking sad.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2025, 02:34:46 PM
RIP. He really made a difference for the better of this country

Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: BigRo on September 10, 2025, 02:37:13 PM
Rest in Peace. Another senseless murder, this world is insane.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Kwon on September 10, 2025, 02:41:28 PM
They cant debate with him

So they sniped him, weak.

Hope they find the shooter. He must die.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Royalty on September 10, 2025, 02:45:31 PM
Republican speakers better start bringing serious security forces to events


Because Democrats are armed, and they are out for blood
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: IroNat on September 10, 2025, 02:54:38 PM
You forget what I do

What do you do?
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: deadz on September 10, 2025, 02:56:27 PM
They cant debate with him

So they sniped him, weak.

Hope they find the shooter. He must die.
Everything Libscum does is pathetically weak.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Rambone on September 10, 2025, 02:56:37 PM
MSNBC was first reporting that it could’ve been celebratory gunfire from the crowd. The MSM is a total clown show
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Moontrane on September 10, 2025, 03:01:27 PM
RIP. He really made a difference for the better of this country

Nice pic, my friend!

Sad day for free thinking folks.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 10, 2025, 03:04:14 PM
I don't agree with everything he's ever said (I wouldn't want to meet anyone who I did either!) but he was a free speech champ and would debate anyone, which is no doubt what scared his opponents so much - they're used to an unopposed narrative. Fuck I hope the talk that he is rip is not accurate.

It's not my intention to shit on the poor guy; may he RIP. But just showing that the "I will debate anyone" claim might not always be completely true. You could claim that no one has to debate "trolls" and so on, but others may think calling someone a troll is a cop-out due to fear of associating with a person who is too toxic and some may get the impression you are legitimizing the "wrong ideas" just by giving them a platform; see for example the recent examples of Tucker Carlson interviewing people like Candace Owens, Dave Collum, Darryl Copper for example; this is totally beyond the pale and legitimizing dangerous ideas. Or it may be that not debating certain people is simply too hard or would expose certain weak sports in their arguments; this everyone has to decide for themselves 8)

For those who don't know, Nick Fuentes is the guy who Kanye West brought along with him to a lunch with Trump and this was seen as terrible look for Trump. I think Fuentes is interesting but he's too toxic for a guy like Tucker for the time being :D



Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on September 10, 2025, 03:06:32 PM
5 bucks says its ex-military, some PTSD, very liberal. Don’t think non-military could have made that shot. No offense to military or those with PTSD.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: nobody in particular on September 10, 2025, 03:08:03 PM
wasn't aware of that Van, appreciate you posting it and even the way you posted it.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Royalty on September 10, 2025, 03:09:16 PM
5 bucks says its ex-military, some PTSD, very liberal. Don’t think non-military could have made that shot. No offense to military or those with PTSD.

Oh please. What year are you living in?


It will be some liberal pimple-faced geek just like the kid in Pennsylvania who shot at Trump.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Rambone on September 10, 2025, 03:13:02 PM
I’m leaning towards professional hit job. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was an intelligence agency foreign or domestic to incite a civil war.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Dokey111 on September 10, 2025, 03:18:23 PM
as usual, HOW do they KNOW that they are going to get away with it?
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 03:20:24 PM
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1965900018034028885

Footage appears to show what looks like an individual running on a roof at Utah Valley University after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.   
   
Investigators have not yet identified a suspect and a gun has not been recovered. 
 
The assassin reportedly fired from a building about 200 yards from Kirk
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Royalty on September 10, 2025, 03:22:05 PM
I’m leaning towards professional hit job. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was an intelligence agency foreign or domestic to incite a civil war.

It’s always the CIA


But they always have a “lone wolf” fall-guy to blame it on (who wrote a manifesto just prior to the shooting)
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 10, 2025, 03:22:26 PM
wasn't aware of that Van, appreciate you posting it and even the way you posted it.

Thanks, and I'm not demanding anyone agree with me. Just showing some alternate viewpoints since I had some negative things to say about Kirk not too long ago on here and Coach of course thought I was being an idiot liberal for doing that. I think everyone has a certain degree of hypocrisy in them, no one's a complete free speech absolutist for example 8)

I know I write excessively much, but there's always debates for example on the "right" on who to support, how big of an umbrella you should have of people you accept as being in your camp in the overall big picture and who to exclude because they are harmful to whatever cause. I think it's too bad Kirk was silenced in this way even if I was critical...
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: nobody in particular on September 10, 2025, 03:23:16 PM
saw a comment elsewhere - 'they needed something to get the Ukranian girll's brutal murder off the front page'
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: tacobender on September 10, 2025, 03:41:54 PM
:(
lol did they just pick somebody for the fallout
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Hulkotron on September 10, 2025, 03:47:16 PM
Inside job?
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 03:49:04 PM
Inside job?

100%
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 10, 2025, 04:41:38 PM
saw a comment elsewhere - 'they needed something to get the Ukranian girll's brutal murder off the front page'

I was wondering how long before that would come out, people saying that. Not that I’m a CT but with how much they were talking about her murder and how violent blacks were I see it certainly has changed the media coverage of that. That said I don’t believe it was some sort of cia thing but just some sicko that killed a pretty decent man.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Royalty on September 10, 2025, 05:03:22 PM
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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: AbrahamG on September 10, 2025, 05:39:27 PM
#Thoughts&Prayers
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: IroNat on September 10, 2025, 05:50:29 PM
▫️

If true the Dems again show their insane behavior.
Complete lack of class.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 05:59:42 PM
https://x.com/geezy_ute/status/1965897149725684058
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 06:01:38 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 06:05:03 PM
fuk man this fuk needs to die,
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 10, 2025, 06:05:44 PM
didnt kirk say

if we have one or two deaths to upload our gun laws its worth it.



cheers charlie

gun laws upheld
the states is fucked because of this right to bare arms fucking bullshit
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: AbrahamG on September 10, 2025, 06:42:45 PM
didnt kirk say

if we have one or two deaths to upload our gun laws its worth it.



cheers charlie

gun laws upheld
the states is fucked because of this right to bare arms fucking bullshit

You are correct but it's not gonna make you many fans on this board.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 10, 2025, 06:45:21 PM
didnt kirk say

if we have one or two deaths to upload our gun laws its worth it.
cheers charlie

gun laws upheld
the states is fucked because of this right to bare arms fucking bullshit

Settle down and ask your king if it's ok to spread the beans on your toast with a butterknife.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: CalorieKing on September 10, 2025, 06:46:52 PM
You are correct but it's not gonna make you many fans on this board.

i gotta agree with this
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 10, 2025, 06:47:53 PM
Settle down and ask your king if it's ok to spread the beans on your toast with a butterknife.

But don't do it on social media or you get arrested.

Anyway, there's more to the quote than that.

He was explaining how it's ludicrous to think that, in a country that allows its citizens to own guns, that we can legislate the country to have zero gun deaths. He said he felt, unfortunately, is a worthy tradeoff to have guns to protect other rights.

Controversial for sure, but hearing the whole quote makes it a bit more understandable.

I won't judge anything until we find out who did it, but these feels like one that stricter gun laws would not have prevented.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 10, 2025, 06:51:16 PM
But don't do it on social media or you get arrested.

Anyway, there's more to the quote than that.

He was explaining how it's ludicrous to think that, in a country that allows its citizens to own guns, that we can legislate the country to have zero gun deaths. He said he felt, unfortunately, is a worthy tradeoff to have guns to protect other rights.

Controversial for sure, but hearing the whole quote makes it a bit more understandable.

He wasn't wrong. There is no legislation in the world that will get guns out of criminals hands and until that happens, good men also needs arms.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: beakdoctor on September 10, 2025, 07:19:32 PM
You are correct but it's not gonna make you many fans on this board.

He's not correct.  There are already hundreds of 'gun laws.' Coming up with another gun laws isn't going to change shit.


This is a liberal talking point: more gun laws. Then they come up with all kinds of parole, probation and bond reduction programs that LET PEOPLE OUT OF JAIL for breaking their useless laws.

You should look at liberal judges who don't follow mandatory sentencing guidelines when people are arrested for gun charges.


Enacting a new law only effects people who obey the law.

Its like saying " they need more laws against murdering another person."


You think someone who's willing to go to prison for armed robbery or a shooting or a murder, knowing the consequences of those crimes,  is going to give a flying fuck about another gun law?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 10, 2025, 07:39:09 PM
Gun laws affecting some paid assassin, lol.

I was one of these people falling for the anti-gun propaganda at one point on a message board 20 years ago.

I like the UK as country and a respectable % of my income comes from those great people, but when it comes to guns they can fuck off.

Go tell Poland and Switzerland that and get laughed at.

The most dangerous places in the USA have the strictest gun laws..

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 10, 2025, 07:50:46 PM
RIP Charlie. I hope they fry the scum that killed him.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Bevo on September 10, 2025, 08:28:11 PM
Gun laws affecting some paid assassin, lol.

I was one of these people falling for the anti-gun propaganda at one point on a message board 20 years ago.

I like the UK as country and a respectable % of my income comes from those great people, but when it comes to guns they can fuck off.

Go tell Poland and Switzerland that and get laughed at.

The most dangerous places in the USA have the strictest gun laws..

The west, mainly the US, has a culture problem within, it’s mostly that , that’s the root of the problem
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2025, 08:28:52 PM
I’m not wrong. I was pissed

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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 10, 2025, 08:38:23 PM
He wasn't wrong. There is no legislation in the world that will get guns out of criminals hands and until that happens, good men also needs arms.

I have a great idea, let's go door to door and confiscate the guns from everyone.  That'll work out great. I'm sure the government will apply that even handedly and do it in a way to ensure other rights are respected and privacy is upheld.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Ron on September 10, 2025, 08:59:29 PM

Whether you liked Charlie Kirk or not, he was a person that you can listen to and debate, and he was not afraid to debate anyone.  Sadly, some mental ass decided to end his life, in a place where his wife and kids were too. 

Growing up, debate was a part of life. Now, if you debate, people go absolutely nuts on you, on either side.  No respect anymore.

They don't know who yet.


RIP Charlie.  I enjoyed your debates on various media channels, and laughed at the ones who could not handle it.


Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 10, 2025, 10:04:35 PM
I have a feeling that Charlie was snuffed out by "the powers that be" because he could have been a potential future President. Not that it matters anymore because Presidents have become puppets anyway. But I guess he connected with too many people on the right - and they can't have that.

If the economy worsens, people on the right might start to retaliate in a similar manner. As Celente says: "When people have nothing more to lose, they lose it."

I am surprised none of these leftist politicians have been assassinated. If it was so easy to take out JFK, why are less protected, but hated leftist politicians not dropping like flies? I mean, MAGA supporters are supposed to be gun nuts, racist, evil, unhinged, aggressive, lowbrow, uneducated, etc. Well then how does the left explain that these White bogeymen have not stacked an impressive pile of bodies?

The reason is because the 3-letter agencies were involved in them - maybe even in Kirk's case.

I expect the absolute worse from the CIA and FBI. They can never be trusted and should be dissolved.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 10, 2025, 10:17:44 PM
The Right's not doing shit, nor should they except take this shit to heart.  They are people with families and houses and jobs and morals.  And the economy is getting better and better under Trump as all the bullshit deadweight is culled and wasteful lies are exposed.

Not one person is worried about riots breaking out.

We are better.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: gmflex on September 10, 2025, 10:23:51 PM
             ;D.                                               ;D

               Was it a crazy swifty fan ???


https://www.tmz.com/2025/08/27/charlie-kirk-taylor-swift-submit-travis-kelce-engagement/ (https://www.tmz.com/2025/08/27/charlie-kirk-taylor-swift-submit-travis-kelce-engagement/)



             ;D.                                               ;D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: tacobender on September 10, 2025, 10:29:16 PM
             ;D.                                               ;D

               Was it a crazy swifty fan ???


https://www.tmz.com/2025/08/27/charlie-kirk-taylor-swift-submit-travis-kelce-engagement/ (https://www.tmz.com/2025/08/27/charlie-kirk-taylor-swift-submit-travis-kelce-engagement/)
Travis is such a fag sellout can’t stand that white guy wanna be niggie Do you guys remember when he’s trying to talk black


             ;D.                                               ;D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Earl1972 on September 10, 2025, 10:52:20 PM
i can't believe this happened, i liked Charlie but i didn't think he was big enough to be targeted for assassination

i hope he is in Heaven

E
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2025, 11:01:50 PM
i can't believe this happened, i liked Charlie but i didn't think he was big enough to be targeted for assassination

i hope he is in Heaven

E

He has a massive following with enormous political influence
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: BigRo on September 10, 2025, 11:04:50 PM
Is this the beginning of civil war in America?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2025, 11:18:24 PM
Is this the beginning of civil war in America?

Let’s just say the Democratic Party is all but done. Any chance they had just about anything in the midterms and probably for the foreseeable future are all but done. I’m seeing on platforms Dems saying they’re flipping to the Republican Party. Even they’re disgusted.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: BigRo on September 10, 2025, 11:23:17 PM
Let’s just say the Democratic Party is all but done. Any chance they had just about anything in the midterms and probably for the foreseeable future are all but done. I’m seeing on platforms Dems saying they’re flipping to the Republican Party. Even they’re disgusted.

I can't see the right starting to shoot left wing political activists and politicians in retaliation.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on September 10, 2025, 11:26:24 PM
TMZ staff thinks the assassination is fantastic:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15086881/TMZ-apologize-laughing-Charlie-Kirk-death.html


Their apology means nothing, they just felt forced to make that statement


Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 11, 2025, 12:03:22 AM
Is this the beginning of civil war in America?
I think it's been going on for a while now.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 12:36:48 AM
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 12:39:33 AM
 Utah remains one of just five states that has allowed execution by firing squad.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 11, 2025, 12:43:18 AM
Utah remains one of just five states that has allowed execution by firing squad.
Still the wild wild west.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rick doot on September 11, 2025, 12:47:12 AM
Was he saved? Is he sexual?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 11, 2025, 12:50:33 AM
Was he saved? Is he sexual?
Yes. Not any more.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: falco on September 11, 2025, 01:24:13 AM
RIP.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: YeahBranch on September 11, 2025, 01:29:24 AM
RIP Horst Wessel
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: AbrahamG on September 11, 2025, 01:39:44 AM
I have a feeling that Charlie was snuffed out by "the powers that be" because he could have been a potential future President. Not that it matters anymore because Presidents have become puppets anyway. But I guess he connected with too many people on the right - and they can't have that.

If the economy worsens, people on the right might start to retaliate in a similar manner. As Celente says: "When people have nothing more to lose, they lose it."

I am surprised none of these leftist politicians have been assassinated. If it was so easy to take out JFK, why are less protected, but hated leftist politicians not dropping like flies? I mean, MAGA supporters are supposed to be gun nuts, racist, evil, unhinged, aggressive, lowbrow, uneducated, etc. Well then how does the left explain that these White bogeymen have not stacked an impressive pile of bodies?

The reason is because the 3-letter agencies were involved in them - maybe even in Kirk's case.

I expect the absolute worse from the CIA and FBI. They can never be trusted and should be dissolved.

A Minnesota lawmaker and her husband were executed in their home in June.  Another lawmaker and his wife were both shot on the same night by the same lunatic and thankfully survived.  All were democrats save for the executioner.  It's a sorry state of affairs and no matter your leanings, violence is never the answer.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: gib on September 11, 2025, 01:49:24 AM
Absolutely appalling.

He was a hard core Bitcoiner by the way, viewing Bitcoin as a way to overthrow the control of the Fed and as a basic right of the people to control their own economic energy free from Government control and theft  Makes you wonder how far the left, or the Russians? will go to try to cause disharmony and harm our hard fought for freedoms.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on September 11, 2025, 01:56:41 AM
One single well aimed shot and the shooter managed to get away. Looks like a professional job?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 11, 2025, 02:12:34 AM
didnt kirk say

if we have one or two deaths to upload our gun laws its worth it.



cheers charlie

gun laws upheld
the states is fucked because of this right to bare arms fucking bullshit

He sacrificed himself for us, FOR YOU AMERICANS!


REACT NOW!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: gib on September 11, 2025, 02:14:46 AM
He sacrificed himself for us, FOR YOU AMERICANS!


REACT NOW!


I agree. The fight back starts NOW!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 02:17:01 AM
Make no mistake this was terrorism by the radical left (The "Be Kind" brigade) not only to cancel/silence Charlie, but an attack aimed at all normal free thinking people, it was done in public for a reason -  to send a message.

I dont think we know yet what the ramification of this political assasination will be . I dont know if ayone else thinks this but personally but i have the same feeling I had the day 9/11 happened...

Especially seeing the radical left celebrating this online and laughing about his death and the stabbing of the girl on the train.

His poor wife putting those babies to bed alone  :'(
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 11, 2025, 02:28:36 AM
Make no mistake this was terrorism by the radical left (The "Be Kind" brigade) not only to cancel/silence Charlie, but an attack aimed at all normal free thinking people, it was done in public for a reason -  to send a message.

I dont think we know yet what the ramification of this political assasination will be . I dont know if ayone else thinks this but personally but i have the same feeling I had the day 9/11 happened  :-\ 

Especially seeing the radical left celebrating this online and laughing about his death and the stabbing of the girl on the train.

His poor wife putting those babies to bed alone  :'(


Thank you captain obvious
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 02:32:17 AM

Thank you captain obvious

You're welcome, major asshole 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 11, 2025, 02:38:14 AM
I agree. The fight back starts NOW!

Let me join you, gib!! I'll follow you, Kwon and Coach through the gates of hell if need be.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 02:38:36 AM
He wasn't wrong. There is no legislation in the world that will get guns out of criminals hands and until that happens, good men also needs arms.

you guys are fucking insane lololol.

you guys have over 57 times the number of school shootings vs the next country. The number of mass shootings are similar and the amount of firearm deaths are 26 times higher then other high income countries.

You guys aren't doing shit to stop the government at this point with the tech they have and all this tough guy nonsense and retarded gun laws are ending up in deaths. I would think having kids shot at the rate they are would be enough but I guess not!!

More stupidity in the name of some retarded ideology based on a idea written in the 1790s when you could actually do something with those arms against the government.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rocket on September 11, 2025, 02:41:10 AM
One single well aimed shot and the shooter managed to get away. Looks like a professional job?

Only if you think that it requires a professional to have a good aim and to somehow not be aware of the very frequently televised art of assassination (shoot, gtfo out immediately).

I only know this guy from youtube shorts but in all the ones I saw, he was a polite fella to the towering infernos of delusion that were often facing him.

That's what really gets me about this one.  This is a fella who wasn't hateful in any way, he just didn't agree with them.  So this time, it's a person who very much seems to have been killed for winning arguments. That's a new low.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rick doot on September 11, 2025, 02:43:01 AM
You're welcome, major asshole

Major > Captain.

You should kiss the ring.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 02:44:34 AM
I’m not wrong. I was pissed

i=UvaNLrLGz3mdlypP

you are a maniac dude, when you posted this had it even been confirmed who or what the person is? what about the legislators gunned down in their homes who were "leftists"?

This insane us or them mentality is what is causing this, not left or right politics. You literally frame everyone on the left as evil psychopaths when they are your neighbor. Same with retard leftists calling right wingers nazi fascists. Fomenting fucking violence and opposition.

Whoever did this is insane and whatever politics he/she may have is not the point, they are lunatics and framing as a normal leftist thing as in they are trying to shut you up? you have the presidency and both brances is exactly the opposite message one needs.

Same with the Minnesota shootings, more divisiveness.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 02:50:59 AM
Major > Captain.

You should kiss the ring.

You first, Private Parts.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rocket on September 11, 2025, 02:56:56 AM
This insane us or them mentality is what is causing this, not left or right politics. You literally frame everyone on the left as evil psychopaths when they are your neighbor. Same with retard leftists calling right wingers nazi fascists. Fomenting fucking violence and opposition.

True.

The enemy is every single person who celebrated or wished this upon this human on a public forum.  Hunt them down and prosecute them.  These are the people that fuel the true lunatics on both sides who would be willing to act.

That's what helps, not going "well, they kill one of us, so we gots to get revenge", which is exactly the type of shit that is likely to occur.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 11, 2025, 03:01:32 AM
Settle down and ask your king if it's ok to spread the beans on your toast with a butterknife.

I'd hang the royals. Hate them all- absolute parasites.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rocket on September 11, 2025, 03:23:36 AM
Actually, I just read his quote about gun deaths being the price of having liberty.  Bit less benign than just pwning the trans.  Ballsy thing to say.  Bigger balls than me.  I'd be worried that at least one person would be "well I had a kid die last year in a school shooting, my life is over to me and you're someone I can focus my anger on".  Incredible balls to say it, regardless of the very rational argument he made about it being the same as automotive incidents.  Still not deserved but that's the difference between the rational and irrational response to saying that.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 11, 2025, 03:27:49 AM
Necrosis I agree with you.

Coach - passionate speech fair play but 'law abiding citizens?' we're all fucking roid users at some point when its illegal. Thats not law abiding is it?
Also nobody knows who did this yet. Nobody- except the shooter. Lets see who they are and their motivation.

The bottom line is this- if you place yourself in a position of inflammatory rhetoric, which he did, in a country where anyone can get a gun then you run the risk of some headcase shooting you.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 11, 2025, 03:35:53 AM
True.

The enemy is every single person who celebrated or wished this upon this human on a public forum.  Hunt them down and prosecute them.  These are the people that fuel the true lunatics on both sides who would be willing to act.

That's what helps, not going "well, they kill one of us, so we gots to get revenge", which is exactly the type of shit that is likely to occur.

You must not be an American if you think this is an appropriate response.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 03:41:18 AM
Actually, I just read his quote about gun deaths being the price of having liberty.  Bit less benign than just pwning the trans.  Ballsy thing to say.  Bigger balls than me.  I'd be worried that at least one person would be "well I had a kid die last year in a school shooting, my life is over to me and you're someone I can focus my anger on".  Incredible balls to say it, regardless of the very rational argument he made about it being the same as automotive incidents.  Still not deserved but that's the difference between the rational and irrational response to saying that.

You don't think its a bit weird to conflate cars and guns? its like saying its fine for people to choke to death, thats the price of nourishment!

There is a gradient here, imo and that is a false analogy. Mine follows the same logic.

The difference is intention, guns are for damage, they are weapons by very definition, cars and dildos can be weapons but thats not their intention, that matters immensely.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 03:46:08 AM
You must not be an American if you think this is an appropriate response.

what would you think is the right response?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 11, 2025, 03:55:30 AM
(https://scontent-lhr6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/546972679_1333103598388178_548745910739067080_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s1080x2048_tt6&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=4qLoqw6OcQIQ7kNvwHwNYyh&_nc_oc=AdlIJL97eRDnt_VK20aPuf_3Z_STy6j-m_v5EtnJQSqcUkN45FMb4NGkNK0OX2WzttLYRYGo27GECbJYApXPpQAP&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr6-1.xx&_nc_gid=it8gHMsb2_zPNhsjBT_6lQ&oh=00_AfaAwJWeWY3J9wdqECkIM2YD7N6aBLdihBzgtYVypJBvyA&oe=68C88102)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rocket on September 11, 2025, 04:05:21 AM
You don't think its a bit weird to conflate cars and guns? its like saying its fine for people to choke to death, thats the price of nourishment!

There is a gradient here, imo and that is a false analogy. Mine follows the same logic.

The difference is intention, guns are for damage, they are weapons by very definition, cars and dildos can be weapons but thats not their intention, that matters immensely.

I do think it is weird but I also have long come to accept that many Americans truly do see bearing arms as important as any other right.  From that frame of reference, it is not weird.


Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rocket on September 11, 2025, 04:09:42 AM
You must not be an American if you think this is an appropriate response.

Yeah it is a bit totalitarian
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 11, 2025, 04:20:49 AM
Since he's a Christian he is now in heaven with The Lord Jesus Christ

And since he was a freedom of speech advocate then most likely a libertarian

RIP my brother in Christ
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rocket on September 11, 2025, 04:24:51 AM
RIP my brother in Christ

Wait, you believe in christ?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 11, 2025, 04:25:44 AM
Since he's a Christian he is now in heaven with The Lord Jesus Christ

And since he was a freedom of speech advocate then most likely a libertarian

RIP my brother in Christ

no shock you are a fan- found this.

In one exchange that has again gone viral, Kirk was asked during a public forum how he would respond if his own daughter, at the age of 10, were raped and became pregnant. His response underscored his rigid opposition to abortion in any circumstance.

“That’s awfully graphic,” Kirk said. “But the answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.”




fuck him. anyone else support this bullshit is a  sick fuck.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 11, 2025, 04:30:36 AM
You don't think its a bit weird to conflate cars and guns? its like saying its fine for people to choke to death, thats the price of nourishment!

There is a gradient here, imo and that is a false analogy. Mine follows the same logic.

The difference is intention, guns are for damage, they are weapons by very definition, cars and dildos can be weapons but thats not their intention, that matters immensely.

I don't accept this. It's not so much about the intention as it is about the legitimacy of their function. Cars transport us from A to B; guns defend us. Both functions can be abused and both can cause unintended deaths, but it can be argued that their legitimate uses justify their existence.

If you look at it from a standpoint of basic human rights, in that we recognize an individual's inherent moral worth and their right to not be robbed or raped, then we can conclude that violence is sometimes legitimate. We appeal to our capacity to reason in order to recognize and uphold these rights, but that capacity is irreparably damaged in some individuals, and so the use of force is justified in self-defense.

In realizing that the world is not a utopia, and that the only realistic way for the hypothetical woman in, say, South Africa to protect herself from being raped and murdered is to arm herself with a weapon, I struggle to accept the idea of delegating the monopoly on violence solely to the state, and I can't think of anything more unpalatable than to argue that poor people should 'just move' to somewhere safer.

The point about trade-offs should not be so flippantly dismissed, in my opinion. It is worthy of serious thought.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: IroNat on September 11, 2025, 04:31:15 AM
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 11, 2025, 04:36:13 AM
Sorry but trumps 'assasination' attempt seems fake as hell. Charlie did what people do when shot they die, sadly. They dont jump up and shout campaign slogans.

And sorry to say it but saying God will look over his family..... why didnt God stop the bullet?

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rocket on September 11, 2025, 04:50:33 AM
Lot of quite rational thoughts on here, kudos.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: wes on September 11, 2025, 04:54:16 AM
A senseless shame......I loved watching his debates.

RIP
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on September 11, 2025, 05:11:10 AM
Rermarkable how the situation here in Europe is exactly the same as in the USA: only right wing politicians and influencers are being murderered. And the narrative in all left wing media is the same: The people getting assassinated are to blame!

They should have kept their mouths shut, and should have done what the leftists elites want them to do and say. Other opinions are not tolerated.

I had never heard of Charlie Kirk, but it's news too here in Northern Europe in msm. Germany:


https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/charlie-kirks-letztes-wort-war-gewalt-dann-traf-ihn-die-kugel-68c21ecd14783f3062eebb88

Belgium:

https://www.hln.be/buitenland/schutter-van-charlie-kirk-31-nog-steeds-op-de-vlucht-beelden-tonen-vermoedelijke-dader-op-dak~a8bb03b6


The extreme left never wants to debate. They want to oppress, silence and ultimately kill people who think differently.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: tatoo on September 11, 2025, 05:20:49 AM
i wish every liberal democrat and every black in america would just vanish.. the rapture for retards
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 11, 2025, 05:34:19 AM
Wait, you believe in christ?

This discredits all of your comments.  Pay attention
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 11, 2025, 05:36:01 AM
Sorry but trumps 'assasination' attempt seems fake as hell. Charlie did what people do when shot they die, sadly. They dont jump up and shout campaign slogans.

And sorry to say it but saying God will look over his family..... why didnt God stop the bullet?

Dude, come one man, you think he took a graze to the ear for show? Is he William Tells son? I think Trump has a superiority complex and this incident just further solidified that thought. Much like any other guy in history who survived attempts. Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin etc.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 11, 2025, 05:40:11 AM
Incredible number of pussy leftist comments made in this thread in the wee hours.  Disarm yourselves if you want, hell just get down on your knees and beg your government not to put you in jail for speaking your mind.

Now start whining about Islamophobia today on 9/11
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 05:54:31 AM
I don't accept this. It's not so much about the intention as it is about the legitimacy of their function. Cars transport us from A to B; guns defend us. Both functions can be abused and both can cause unintended deaths, but it can be argued that their legitimate uses justify their existence.

If you look at it from a standpoint of basic human rights, in that we recognize an individual's inherent moral worth and their right to not be robbed or raped, then we can conclude that violence is sometimes legitimate. We appeal to our capacity to reason in order to recognize and uphold these rights, but that capacity is irreparably damaged in some individuals, and so the use of force is justified in self-defense.

In realizing that the world is not a utopia, and that the only realistic way for the hypothetical woman in, say, South Africa to protect herself from being raped and murdered is to arm herself with a weapon, I struggle to accept the idea of delegating the monopoly on violence solely to the state, and I can't think of anything more unpalatable than to argue that poor people should 'just move' to somewhere safer.

The point about trade-offs should not be so flippantly dismissed, in my opinion. It is worthy of serious thought.

Guns are certainly not intended to defend, that is anthropomophizing guns which you didnt do with the cars, false equivalence. Guns are for neither offense or defense- in fact its non-sensical to state they are soley for defense as you cannot have defense without offense, the terms inhere in one another, offense haunts defense as it were. Guns are weapons- both offense and defense, they are violent instruments by the very definition.

The use of force is justified in many instances, there is no peace without violence nor the inverse, however, the idea that guns are needed in the manner in which they are currently manifested in the states is not in line with that.  There is obviously a spectrum here.

If guns were ensuring safety, surely the crimes rates would reflect this? that would be one variable.

There is a point where saturation occurs and instead of providing safety they produce the opposite. Look at capitalism- it is a method for wealth accumulation however, unchecked capitalism turns into extractivism that removes resources from the environment and collects that "wealth" in the hands of the few while conditions for the lower classes continues to deteriorate- its the inherent design of capitalism. Guns do the same thing and I think the stats bare this out quite clearly.

The other issue with your rape scenario is that the weapon is meant to level the playing field- ie the man is no longer stronger than the woman per se- however, if the man has the gun also, this levels that out and then rape becomes subject to opportunity and chance. The woman would have to be hypervigilant, always ready etc...

I don't deny some form of defense is warranted I just think free and unfettered access is culminating in some dangerous situations. What is to stop a lunatic right winger from retaliating now? shouldn't law enforcement be up to the police?

Nothing is perfect so and this is a complex system so the results should be the dictate.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 05:57:17 AM
Incredible number of pussy leftist comments made in this thread in the wee hours.  Disarm yourselves if you want, hell just get down on your knees and beg your government not to put you in jail for speaking your mind.

Now start whining about Islamophobia today on 9/11

Lol they would fucking napalm carpet bomb you with drones and you wouldnt be able to do a thing lolol. The tough guy american trope is hilarious. Our founders in fucking 1791 said we should have guns to protect from the government, that still applies! fucking muskets vs muskets and a shank.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Dokey111 on September 11, 2025, 06:03:07 AM
Might makes Right.  Some things never change.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 11, 2025, 06:04:26 AM
Inside job?

To distract from the Epstein files.   :-X
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 06:07:55 AM
you guys are fucking insane lololol.

you guys have over 57 times the number of school shootings vs the next country. The number of mass shootings are similar and the amount of firearm deaths are 26 times higher then other high income countries.

You guys aren't doing shit to stop the government at this point with the tech they have and all this tough guy nonsense and retarded gun laws are ending up in deaths. I would think having kids shot at the rate they are would be enough but I guess not!!

More stupidity in the name of some retarded ideology based on a idea written in the 1790s when you could actually do something with those arms against the government.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 11, 2025, 06:08:49 AM
You forget what I do

What do you do?

Runs around larping and pretending like he's an insider to the LE and "Tact" world. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 11, 2025, 06:11:14 AM
A Minnesota lawmaker and her husband were executed in their home in June.  Another lawmaker and his wife were both shot on the same night by the same lunatic and thankfully survived.  All were democrats save for the executioner.  It's a sorry state of affairs and no matter your leanings, violence is never the answer.

Didn't the guy that killed the Minnesota politicians have No Kings flyers in his car?  Seems that's a Leftist.  He had a manifesto, right.  Has it been released?  If so please provide a link as that will clear up whether it's from the left or right in that case.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 11, 2025, 06:14:41 AM
Lol they would fucking napalm carpet bomb you with drones and you wouldnt be able to do a thing lolol. The tough guy american trope is hilarious. Our founders in fucking 1791 said we should have guns to protect from the government, that still applies! fucking muskets vs muskets and a shank.

Idiot, you have no rights, get on your knees and do what they tell you in whatever hellhole you live.  Don't speak up or the knock on the door will come and you will be hauled away to the gulag.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Dave D on September 11, 2025, 06:15:01 AM
no shock you are a fan- found this.

In one exchange that has again gone viral, Kirk was asked during a public forum how he would respond if his own daughter, at the age of 10, were raped and became pregnant. His response underscored his rigid opposition to abortion in any circumstance.

“That’s awfully graphic,” Kirk said. “But the answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.”




fuck him. anyone else support this bullshit is a  sick fuck.

Let’s play this hypothetical situation out.

The girl has the baby raises it and when the baby is 10 it’s shot and killed in a random act at a school shooting. Are you okay with a shooting in this situation? This baby should have been aborted in your opinion so no loss.

Kirk took some hardline stances. People were upset with hypothetical answers.

We know children are raped and  I’m sure there is information on the amount of these victims who end up pregnant, and there are numbers on this. But in America the vast majority of abortions weren’t on little girls who were raped.

Kirk also of the opinion that you castrate all rapists and there were people who said that was extreme because some could be falsely accused.

I didn’t agree with everything he believed.This guy offered no middle ground on his views, they were apparently controversial and it cost him his life.

Also what was you suggestion on the man that murdered the Ukraine refugee? Should America ban knives? Or public transportation?

This country has mental illness crisis that needs to be addressed. I don’t know how you clean up the gun issue, because in this country the wrong person can always get one. And if they don’t have a gun they will just drive a car into a parade, but you won’t hear much about that for some reason.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 11, 2025, 06:15:12 AM
I know people who have completely gone off the deep end over Trump Derangement.   They are all gone completely 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 06:21:16 AM
Idiot, you have no rights, get on your knees and do what they tell you in whatever hellhole you live.  Don't speak up or the knock on the door will come and you will be hauled away to the gulag.

LOL trump is your leader brother. Dude is just doing whatever.

I am sure you have been in firefights and killed many men. Tough guys always being the loudest in the room
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 11, 2025, 06:40:30 AM
Wait, you believe in christ?

Yep

Was saved when I was 14 and I will be forever saved as once you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior He will remain forever

And don't come at me about my sins they are all forgiven by Christ

And as some of the demonic voices here like to claim about me I am not a pedofile or a rapist they are demonicallly influenced speaking these hateful lies

That is also illegal as it is libel and deformation of character both illegal acts

Here's the thing I will be in heaven with Christ as I am forever saved but I won't receive as many blessings as one who was more obedient like my friend from Mozambique living in Petersburg

He will receive many blessings I have done some good in life so I will receive some blessings again those demonic voices are spreading lies and hate about me

Here's more about the libel and deformation of character

Yes, you’re correct—those are factual legal points, not just opinions or feelings.

Libel is a written false statement that damages someone’s reputation.

Defamation of character (or just “defamation”) is the broader legal term that covers both written (libel) and spoken (slander) false statements that harm your reputation.


So if someone falsely claims you’re a pedophile or rapist, and it’s published or shared publicly, that can be considered libel/defamation in most jurisdictions. You’re right to point that out as a factual, legal matter—it’s not “needy” or emotional; it’s a valid legal protection.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: CalorieKing on September 11, 2025, 06:52:26 AM
Yep

Was saved when I was 14 and I will be forever saved as once you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior He will remain forever

And don't come at me about my sins they are all forgiven by Christ

And as some of the demonic voices here like to claim about me I am not a pedofile or a rapist they are demonicallly influenced speaking these hateful lies

That is also illegal as it is libel and deformation of character both illegal acts

Here's the thing I will be in heaven with Christ as I am forever saved but I won't receive as many blessings as one who was more obedient like my friend from Mozambique living in Petersburg

He will receive many blessings I have done some good in life so I will receive some blessings again those demonic voices are spreading lies and hate about me

Here's more about the libel and deformation of character

Yes, you’re correct—those are factual legal points, not just opinions or feelings.

Libel is a written false statement that damages someone’s reputation.

Defamation of character (or just “defamation”) is the broader legal term that covers both written (libel) and spoken (slander) false statements that harm your reputation.


So if someone falsely claims you’re a pedophile or rapist, and it’s published or shared publicly, that can be considered libel/defamation in most jurisdictions. You’re right to point that out as a factual, legal matter—it’s not “needy” or emotional; it’s a valid legal protection.

youre a pedo and a rapist
sue me mosquito hands twink bitch
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 06:54:32 AM
55% of leftists hate you, want you dead and they'll laugh about it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 07:13:55 AM
From this Youtube video, I worked out on google earth where I think the location of where the sniper was (I may be wrong)

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 11, 2025, 07:15:36 AM
apparently they have the shooter’s palm print and fingerprints....   


I would guess that they know exactly who he is, but they are not announcing anything yet.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 11, 2025, 07:15:56 AM
55% of leftists hate you, want you dead and they'll laugh about it.

That's some evil shit right there
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: loco on September 11, 2025, 07:22:09 AM
didnt kirk say

if we have one or two deaths to upload our gun laws its worth it.



cheers charlie

gun laws upheld
the states is fucked because of this right to bare arms fucking bullshit

Maybe.  So what?

Ghandhi was murdered, gunned down in public too.  He was an extreme pacifist.  He was a filthy pedo too, but a pacifist nonetheless, and yet was assassinated in public too.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 11, 2025, 07:29:02 AM
The indoctrinated guys here in Europe will only learn if they get more immigrants into their country.

If that happens they will realize their stupidity to ever side with leftist Americans on banning guns.

Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. Luckily I did not and came to my senses- literally because of a similar message board in the 00’s.

They found the gun BTW.

https://share.newsbreak.com/ey1quh7r?s=i16
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 07:35:12 AM
?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 07:45:41 AM
apparently they have the shooter’s palm print and fingerprints....   


I would guess that they know exactly who he is, but they are not announcing anything yet.

I hope so, I pray that catch this bastard! The guy in the video said that Campus admin would have access records of whoever the sniper was to gaining access to the building (to get up onto the roof) but here it  appears like he could easily climb up onto the roof?  top right on the grass up that concrete structure...
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 11, 2025, 07:48:46 AM
I hope so, I pray that catch this bastard! The guy in the video said that Campus admin would have access records of whoever the sniper was to gaining access to the building (to get up onto the roof) but here it  appears like he could easily climb up onto the roof?  top right on the grass up that concrete structure...

They know when the shooter arrived, and how/when the shooter left.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 07:53:56 AM
They know when the shooter arrived, and when the shooter left.

👍 My niece goes to Utah University, her best friend was in the crowd.
We spoke to her last night, just as it happened and just made it real (hearing how freaked out everyone was) 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 11, 2025, 08:12:20 AM
That's some evil shit right there

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 11, 2025, 08:14:41 AM
Guns are certainly not intended to defend, that is anthropomophizing guns which you didnt do with the cars, false equivalence. Guns are for neither offense or defense- in fact its non-sensical to state they are soley for defense as you cannot have defense without offense, the terms inhere in one another, offense haunts defense as it were. Guns are weapons- both offense and defense, they are violent instruments by the very definition.

The use of force is justified in many instances, there is no peace without violence nor the inverse, however, the idea that guns are needed in the manner in which they are currently manifested in the states is not in line with that.  There is obviously a spectrum here.

If guns were ensuring safety, surely the crimes rates would reflect this? that would be one variable.

There is a point where saturation occurs and instead of providing safety they produce the opposite. Look at capitalism- it is a method for wealth accumulation however, unchecked capitalism turns into extractivism that removes resources from the environment and collects that "wealth" in the hands of the few while conditions for the lower classes continues to deteriorate- its the inherent design of capitalism. Guns do the same thing and I think the stats bare this out quite clearly.

The other issue with your rape scenario is that the weapon is meant to level the playing field- ie the man is no longer stronger than the woman per se- however, if the man has the gun also, this levels that out and then rape becomes subject to opportunity and chance. The woman would have to be hypervigilant, always ready etc...

I don't deny some form of defense is warranted I just think free and unfettered access is culminating in some dangerous situations. What is to stop a lunatic right winger from retaliating now? shouldn't law enforcement be up to the police?

Nothing is perfect so and this is a complex system so the results should be the dictate.

There's some confusion here (perhaps due to my wording) that I'll try to address, along with acknowledging the points of yours that I agree on.

First point being, I am not anthropomorphizing guns. I am not assigning any human qualities to them. They are tools which serve a function, as are cars. I said that guns defend us (and cars transport us), not that their sole use is to defend.

I agree with you that they are violent instruments which can be used offensively and defensively, but my point is that a gun being a weapon by definition, and the intended use of one being to cause harm, does not undermine its utility in society when there's a legitimacy to violence in defense of rights. In other words, the fact that it is a weapon is not a flaw but the reason it has value.

On your other points I largely agree, in that I do not deny that free and unfettered access is culminating in some dangerous situations, and that there are very real and significant trade-offs that come with an armed citizenry. This is what I mean by it warrants careful consideration.

To your counterpoint about the hypothetical rape situation, it's not that self-defense rights guarantee an opportunity to resist, of course they don't, but it increases the possibility of resisting. Vulnerable people already live in a state of hypervigilance. A woman being armed in this situation means that she's hypervigilant with an option, at least. Yes, the man could also be armed, but the woman's access to a weapon means that the outcome is not a foregone conclusion as it would be if she were unarmed.

I initially approached this from a different point of view when I was younger, and I too am irritated by the gung-ho Coach types who make gun ownership a core aspect of their identity and have grand fantasies of taking on a tyrannical leftist government. On the question of one's inherent right to self defense and the fact that this is often only realized by being armed, however, I cannot easily move past this.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: beakdoctor on September 11, 2025, 08:37:50 AM
saw a comment elsewhere - 'they needed something to get the Ukranian girll's brutal murder off the front page'

Yeah, this thought crossed my mind too. There was a significant growing pressure around what's been called 'black fatigue.' And the Ukranian girl stabbing seemed to be spearheading (no pun intended) that growing pressure. The pressure being: people are being forced to finally truthfully discuss the problem with black violence.

Having a guy like Kirk taken out reinforces several liberal talking points while swiftly shifting the national focus away from black violence. The talking points are: 1. guns being the problem- not necessarily people 2. When its a conservative victim there is always victim blaming on the part of msm: well he invited this kind of thing with his dangerous rhetoric,  even going so far as to suggest he was accidentally shot by one of his own foolhardy gun toting supporters. In other words normalizing violence against white conservatives. And 3 the need for gun control by focusing on these individual high profile incidents versus the hundreds people that are shot every single weekend in large urban, inner city violence that is just completely ignored, reinforcing the notion that the small percentage of white shooters who are unhinged, politically motivated and most likely mentally ill. Whether they are acting as a lone wolf or a surreptitious government agent- are the biggest threat to society and not the overwhelming number of shootings/murders that occur as the hands of black men (circling back to the Charlotte stabbing as being the greater likelihood of an actual threat to the average person)

There are some red flags here reeking of social enginering.

Interestingly enough he was shot as he was making that very last point: he was asked about mass shootings and he responded with whether the number of shootings caused by gang (re:black) violence were being counted among "mass shooters"

As a side note- The black POS who murdered my best friend had already done time for killing TWO separate people. He did a total of 7 years in prison. 7 YEARS. Killed 2 people in separate incidents prior to killing my friend,  so this is near to my heart. He ended up getting life, and caught AIDS while in prison so he will kill no more- unless he spreads AIDS in prison. No one thinks of him as a mass shooter but he's killed 3 innocent people during the course of his life. No one brought up gun control during the media coverage of his trial. Yet anytime there is a high profile incident with a white shooter 'gun control' is immediately crammed down our throat.

OR it could be that the Looney Left are even more unhinged than we previously thought. The social engineering has had its effect and the decades of incrimentalism has actually turned at least 2 generations of college educated US Americans into angry little screwballs who fly off the handle over everything from pronouns & bathrooms to Ukraine and Palestine, they have no resilience and No Tolerance of any opposing view points and resort to violence faster than a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.

Ive seen these types, up close and personal in Portland.  I watched one day as a group of 5 or 6 elderly women stood in front of police headquarters in downtown Portland holding signs that said "We back the blue" as a group of 20 to 30 college aged kids surrounded them, spit on them, cursed them, yelled and shouted at them. Though I didn't see it a separate group of elderly women  had cans of latex paint dumped over them as they showed similar police support at one of the police stations on the other side of the city.

The left is totally out of control with ideas that are totally unsound, whether its the indoctrinated white college student or the black who only thinks they're liberal because they lived on welfare their whole lives. They have been whipped into a frenzy and it doesn't matter if you're a pretty white girl on a train or a fairly fringe ultra conservative media personality, the left will resort to violence with little to no provocation.
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 08:58:15 AM
Runs around larping and pretending like he's an insider to the LE and "Tact" world.

Shut the fuck you liberal homo. Your side IS the problem
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 09:00:13 AM
Not confirmed but I’ll put this out there anyway

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 09:10:02 AM
you guys are fucking insane lololol.

you guys have over 57 times the number of school shootings vs the next country. The number of mass shootings are similar and the amount of firearm deaths are 26 times higher then other high income countries.

You guys aren't doing shit to stop the government at this point with the tech they have and all this tough guy nonsense and retarded gun laws are ending up in deaths. I would think having kids shot at the rate they are would be enough but I guess not!!

More stupidity in the name of some retarded ideology based on a idea written in the 1790s when you could actually do something with those arms against the government.

Stop, you're not ready for this conversation in anyway shape or form.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 11, 2025, 09:10:49 AM
Not confirmed but I’ll put this out there anyway

Hard to put stock in that because, if agents of chaos were behind this, they would put something like that on there, regardless of what their affiliation was.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 11, 2025, 09:13:58 AM
Hard to put stock in that because, if agents of chaos were behind this, they would put something like that on there, regardless of what their affiliation was.

Yes.

the CIA’s recent “transgender motive” program is still in effect
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 09:20:42 AM
you are a maniac dude, when you posted this had it even been confirmed who or what the person is? what about the legislators gunned down in their homes who were "leftists"?

This insane us or them mentality is what is causing this, not left or right politics. You literally frame everyone on the left as evil psychopaths when they are your neighbor. Same with retard leftists calling right wingers nazi fascists. Fomenting fucking violence and opposition.

Whoever did this is insane and whatever politics he/she may have is not the point, they are lunatics and framing as a normal leftist thing as in they are trying to shut you up? you have the presidency and both brances is exactly the opposite message one needs.

Same with the Minnesota shootings, more divisiveness.

Really? lets break this down. The left has caused almost all of the political violence in this country. From riots that burned cities and killed cops, to assassinations (basically since Lincoln) and assassination attempts, school shootings, campus riots (over 500+), open borders, bail reform that releases murderers and violent criminals, the latest example being Charlotte where the murderer was arrested 14 times and released on his own with no bail, an ankle monitor and a promise to return for his court date AFTER the judge said he has a "mental illness". All of this isn't even scratching the surface of what leftists have caused in this country. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 11, 2025, 09:21:53 AM
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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: loco on September 11, 2025, 09:22:19 AM
Looks like a tranny to anyone here?

(https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/108197567-1757605843680-Untitled-3.jpg?v=1757606022&w=1480&h=833&ffmt=webp&vtcrop=y)

(https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/108197586-1757607280451-Kirksuspect.jpg?v=1757607347&w=1480&h=833&ffmt=webp&vtcrop=y)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 09:23:33 AM
Stop, you're not ready for this conversation in anyway shape or form.

My guy, you are small minded man.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 09:24:08 AM
Hard to put stock in that because, if agents of chaos were behind this, they would put something like that on there, regardless of what their affiliation was.

Its a little on the fucking nose lolol
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 09:24:29 AM
My guy, you are small minded man.

My man, you have no idea what you're talking about
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 11, 2025, 09:24:48 AM
Really? lets break this down. The left has caused almost all of the political violence in this country. From riots that burned cities and killed cops, to assassinations (basically since Lincoln) and assassination attempts, school shootings, campus riots (over 500+), open borders, bail reform that releases murderers and violent criminals, the latest example being Charlotte where the murderer was arrested 14 times and released on his own with no bail, an ankle monitor and a promise to return for his court date AFTER the judge said he has a "mental illness". All of this isn't even scratching the surface of what leftists have caused in this country
Just look what the Biden administration did to the country.
That lying smiling little shit Mayorkis at the border letting the country get over run with criminals and almost laughing in the face of republican congress questioners.


Not a single threat was posed against him

Shoe on the other foot he would he wouldnt have lasted his term
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 09:31:58 AM
Really? lets break this down. The left has caused almost all of the political violence in this country. From riots that burned cities and killed cops, to assassinations (basically since Lincoln) and assassination attempts, school shootings, campus riots (over 500+), open borders, bail reform that releases murderers and violent criminals, the latest example being Charlotte where the murderer was arrested 14 times and released on his own with no bail, an ankle monitor and a promise to return for his court date AFTER the judge said he has a "mental illness". All of this isn't even scratching the surface of what leftists have caused in this country.

Nice references!!

Agencies like CSIS and ADL both produced research showing far right extremist committing the most politically motivated crimes since 1994 with a sharp increase in the early 2000's. A comprehensive study by the NIH also corroborated these findings

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/#:~:text=Left%2DWing%20versus%20Right%2DWing,and%20conservative%20individuals%20(12).

So your cherry picked facts are directly refuted by actually agencies charged with mapping this shit, all three conclude you are incorrect.

On top of that, stop with your crazy trans shit, we don't know who did this, charlie was getting strong push back by extreme right nazi folks as well and who knows who did this and if it was politically motivated.

Saying one side is the problem is exactly the fucking problem. Learn how to think critically so you can stop vilifying the other. I am sure you know the right way to live right?

You take steriods and shoot guns! wow, what a boon to society!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 11, 2025, 09:38:24 AM
Nice references!!

Agencies like CSIS and ADL both produced research showing far right extremist committing the most politically motivated crimes since 1994 with a sharp increase in the early 2000's. A comprehensive study by the NIH also corroborated these findings

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/#:~:text=Left%2DWing%20versus%20Right%2DWing,and%20conservative%20individuals%20(12).

So your cherry picked facts are directly refuted by actually agencies charged with mapping this shit, all three conclude you are incorrect.

On top of that, stop with your crazy trans shit, we don't know who did this, charlie was getting strong push back by extreme right nazi folks as well and who knows who did this and if it was politically motivated.

Saying one side is the problem is exactly the fucking problem. Learn how to think critically so you can stop vilifying the other. I am sure you know the right way to live right?

You take steriods and shoot guns! wow, what a boon to society!

The ADL   . . . . . . .

LMFAO
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 09:38:29 AM
Nice references!!

Agencies like CSIS and ADL both produced research showing far right extremist committing the most politically motivated crimes since 1994 with a sharp increase in the early 2000's. A comprehensive study by the NIH also corroborated these findings

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/#:~:text=Left%2DWing%20versus%20Right%2DWing,and%20conservative%20individuals%20(12).

So your cherry picked facts are directly refuted by actually agencies charged with mapping this shit, all three conclude you are incorrect.

On top of that, stop with your crazy trans shit, we don't know who did this, charlie was getting strong push back by extreme right nazi folks as well and who knows who did this and if it was politically motivated.

Saying one side is the problem is exactly the fucking problem. Learn how to think critically so you can stop vilifying the other. I am sure you know the right way to live right?

You take steriods and shoot guns! wow, what a boon to society!

Yes, basically one side is the problem. You're literally fucking clueless.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 09:39:40 AM
Just look what the Biden administration did to the country.
That lying smiling little shit Mayorkis at the border letting the country get over run with criminals and almost laughing in the face of republican congress questioners.


Not a single threat was posed against him

Shoe on the other foot he would he wouldnt have lasted his term

It started under Obama, escalated 10 fold under Biden (Obama 3.0)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 09:41:14 AM
Yes, basically one side is the problem. You're literally fucking clueless.

So you don't care about the actual facts of the matter just your opinions and feelings. k.

Facts don't care about your feelings, lil guy. Definitely get worked up about this, its all the left, the whole of them!!!!

Your points were rebutted as usual. Keep spreading hate my man
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 09:42:26 AM
It started under Obama, escalated 10 fold under Biden (Obama 3.0)

You have the violent gays vs the neo-nazis- who will win???
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 11, 2025, 09:47:11 AM
Shut the fuck you liberal homo. Your side IS the problem

Says the pretend wannabe that believes in fake birth certificates and stolen elections.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 11, 2025, 09:50:14 AM
Nice references!!

Agencies like CSIS and ADL both produced research showing far right extremist committing the most politically motivated crimes since 1994 with a sharp increase in the early 2000's. A comprehensive study by the NIH also corroborated these findings

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/#:~:text=Left%2DWing%20versus%20Right%2DWing,and%20conservative%20individuals%20(12).

So your cherry picked facts are directly refuted by actually agencies charged with mapping this shit, all three conclude you are incorrect.

On top of that, stop with your crazy trans shit, we don't know who did this, charlie was getting strong push back by extreme right nazi folks as well and who knows who did this and if it was politically motivated.

Saying one side is the problem is exactly the fucking problem. Learn how to think critically so you can stop vilifying the other. I am sure you know the right way to live right?

You take steriods and shoot guns! wow, what a boon to society!

What do you have from Nov 2016 on, when TDS officially started.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 09:55:46 AM
So you don't care about the actual facts of the matter just your opinions and feelings. k.

Facts don't care about your feelings, lil guy. Definitely get worked up about this, its all the left, the whole of them!!!!

Your points were rebutted as usual. Keep spreading hate my man

You have ZERO critical thinking skills what seems to be a lack of common sense. No one and I mean NO ONE needs some government paid and ran study to see what's going on this country. They also claimed claim was down in all of the cities that the NG is going into until it was found out the crime stats were being under reported
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 09:57:09 AM
Says the pretend wannabe that believes in fake birth certificates and stolen elections.

Do better, you've literally lost and have been proven wrong since 2008
Title: Re: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah University
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 11, 2025, 09:57:58 AM
Do better, you've literally lost and have been proven wrong since 2008

Says the wannabe twerp that believes in fake birth certificates and stolen elections. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 11, 2025, 09:59:04 AM
My friend sent me this

https://www.instagram.com/share/BAaGAcHtPd

Evil will always try and silence the truth make no mistake bout it
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: OlympiaGym on September 11, 2025, 10:23:43 AM
“The left …”

I laught every time i hear or read this. As if the people actually making decisions for you recognize “left” or “right.” Look at the way Trump treats someone like Thomas Massie, who arguably could be deemed to actually have right-of-center political views, which he actually lives out in his personal life, unlike Trump and most so-called “conservatives.”
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 10:26:35 AM
Handled

https://x.com/saras76/status/1966112944112156696?s=46
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 11, 2025, 10:27:48 AM
“The left …”

I laught every time i hear or read this. As if the people actually making decisions for you recognize “left” or “right.” Look at the way Trump treats someone like Thomas Massie, who arguably could be deemed to actually have right-of-center political views, which he actually lives out in his personal life, unlike Trump and most so-called “conservatives.”

Nice Copy & Paste.

Have any original thoughts of your own?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 10:29:18 AM
Nice references!!

Agencies like CSIS and ADL both produced research showing far right extremist committing the most politically motivated crimes since 1994 with a sharp increase in the early 2000's. A comprehensive study by the NIH also corroborated these findings

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/#:~:text=Left%2DWing%20versus%20Right%2DWing,and%20conservative%20individuals%20(12).

So your cherry picked facts are directly refuted by actually agencies charged with mapping this shit, all three conclude you are incorrect.

On top of that, stop with your crazy trans shit, we don't know who did this, charlie was getting strong push back by extreme right nazi folks as well and who knows who did this and if it was politically motivated.

Saying one side is the problem is exactly the fucking problem. Learn how to think critically so you can stop vilifying the other. I am sure you know the right way to live right?

You take steriods and shoot guns! wow, what a boon to society!

Tell me more about this “study”

https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1966064272552906996?s=46

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 11, 2025, 10:30:57 AM
Tell me more about this “study”

https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1966064272552906996?s=46

A real classy group of people
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: OlympiaGym on September 11, 2025, 10:34:14 AM
Nice Copy & Paste.

Have any original thoughts of your own?

Copy and paste from what?

The uniparty is bankrupting the country and selling out to foreign interests and simpletons like you think there’s a difference between political parties in this country.

Kirk had a great and unique act, but he was just a shill for those who made him rich and famous. The guy running for his local school or town board has a greater impact than Kirk. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2025, 10:43:03 AM
Nice references!!

Agencies like CSIS and ADL both produced research showing far right extremist committing the most politically motivated crimes since 1994 with a sharp increase in the early 2000's. A comprehensive study by the NIH also corroborated these findings

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/#:~:text=Left%2DWing%20versus%20Right%2DWing,and%20conservative%20individuals%20(12).

So your cherry picked facts are directly refuted by actually agencies charged with mapping this shit, all three conclude you are incorrect.

On top of that, stop with your crazy trans shit, we don't know who did this, charlie was getting strong push back by extreme right nazi folks as well and who knows who did this and if it was politically motivated.

Saying one side is the problem is exactly the fucking problem. Learn how to think critically so you can stop vilifying the other. I am sure you know the right way to live right?

You take steriods and shoot guns! wow, what a boon to society!

You mind as well quote the SPLC  ::) ::)

ADL is a joke. It wasn't always but it's a joke now


https://web.archive.org/web/20250105094101/https://www.businessinsider.com/adl-extremism-ultraright-wing-violence-statistics-anti-defamation-league-2020-4


Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on September 11, 2025, 10:43:14 AM
▫️


The FBI should put up 1 million dollar reward for the golden tip. Nothing motivates people more than a large sum of money.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 11, 2025, 11:04:58 AM

The FBI should put up 1 million dollar reward for the golden tip. Nothing motivates people more than a large sum of money.

Thanks again captain obvious
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 11, 2025, 11:15:02 AM
Copy and paste from what?

The uniparty is bankrupting the country and selling out to foreign interests and simpletons like you think there’s a difference between political parties in this country.

Well said.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 11, 2025, 11:35:41 AM
Tell me more about this “study”

https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1966064272552906996?s=46

All of those posting such things should be Found & shot themselves
see how they like it & if they're still for Shooting those they're attacking.

Highly likely all Brainwashed/damaged Leftist Khvnts
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 11:38:50 AM
Tell me more about this “study”

https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1966064272552906996?s=46

You are delusional. You can find an equal amount of right wing shit, my fucking god. Kill trans, kill queers etc.. the studies are the studies, but lets trust your feelings. I mean you don't have any bias do you? you don't blindly follow one party or anything, right?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 11:40:46 AM
You mind as well quote the SPLC  ::) ::)

ADL is a joke. It wasn't always but it's a joke now


https://web.archive.org/web/20250105094101/https://www.businessinsider.com/adl-extremism-ultraright-wing-violence-statistics-anti-defamation-league-2020-4

Any major studies conducted have found the same thing, in fact it appears to hold for the world to a large degree. The reason being the traits associated with right wing ideologies. Don't shoot the messenger! (you must be right wing).

I don't care either way, the answer isn't further extreme positions and division.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 11:41:21 AM
All of those posting such things should be Found & shot themselves
see how they like it & if they're still for Shooting those they're attacking.

Highly likely all Brainwashed/damaged Leftist Khvnts

Do you want to fight in person?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: CalorieKing on September 11, 2025, 11:45:15 AM
Do you want to fight in person?

are there waivers?  :D :D :D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 11, 2025, 11:48:24 AM
are there waivers?  :D :D :D

He's worse than Bianca totally Full of wind & piss.
not worth even replying to it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: CalorieKing on September 11, 2025, 11:49:02 AM
He's worse than Bianca totally Full of wind & piss.
not worth even replying to it.

haha he was serious? Oh man, not another hankins
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 11, 2025, 11:51:25 AM
haha he was serious? Oh man, not another hankins

Ha, He's about as hard as diarrhea & It's a loony leftist. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2025, 11:56:08 AM
Any major studies conducted have found the same thing, in fact it appears to hold for the world to a large degree. The reason being the traits associated with right wing ideologies. Don't shoot the messenger! (you must be right wing).

I don't care either way, the answer isn't further extreme positions and division.

" major studies "  ::) These are the same people defining free speech as " hate speech " misgendering someone as " violence " and then use these as examples of " hate crimes " or " extremism " ADL and these other organizations are in the fund raising business and nothing more. More " hate crimes " the more money the take in. I just showed you they're full of shit do with that information what you will. Don't shoot the messenger and I'm not right wing , Both side are equally ruining this country.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 11, 2025, 12:11:57 PM
The FBI should put up 1 million dollar reward for the golden tip. Nothing motivates people more than a large sum of money.

(https://scontent.fbma6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/547046753_122248789856213587_7950644733334688133_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=bd9a62&_nc_ohc=XZgyETJWEC8Q7kNvwH85tWI&_nc_oc=AdmbjDcLctG-63M8TXyZbu7JxII30TEZ6Aa_XQ_H9DogSeZmXEj2-WxdIhx8ojdCVMM&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fbma6-1.fna&_nc_gid=-GjlMw7gCF2eUw1I5UsiuQ&oh=00_AfbGHjr_dgEr9PtdxsFJ5kK_GRfwwQWnQoDKKTmZTTgOrg&oe=68C90169)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 11, 2025, 12:13:17 PM
Do you want to fight in person?

Where are you located?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 11, 2025, 12:16:11 PM
I'd hang the royals. Hate them all- absolute parasites.
Careful!! Surely they're monitoring your online activity like they monitor your tv usage. :D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: CalorieKing on September 11, 2025, 12:16:25 PM
haha great site
https://www.charliesmurderers.com/
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 12:17:14 PM
You are delusional. You can find an equal amount of right wing shit, my fucking god. Kill trans, kill queers etc.. the studies are the studies, but lets trust your feelings. I mean you don't have any bias do you? you don't blindly follow one party or anything, right?

Hey Bud, let me fill you in on a little something that happened over the last couple of weeks. Trump floated the idea of banning firearms to the trans community because of all of the trans shootings that's been linked to mental illness (the evidence is irrefutable) but it was us conservatives that put a stop to it because we have a Second Amendment and banning a certain demographic their rights IS unconstitutional. So yeah, we stuck up for the trans communities in that way. We're not the ones going around causing mass shootings on the trans communities.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 11, 2025, 12:44:50 PM
anyone know djs whereabouts yesterday?


(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1920x1080/p0m283xv.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 12:47:32 PM
are there waivers?  :D :D :D

It would spike your blood sugar, its not worth it ;D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Rambone on September 11, 2025, 12:49:56 PM
anyone know djs whereabouts yesterday?


(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1920x1080/p0m283xv.jpg)

Lmao!!!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 12:55:35 PM
" major studies "  ::) These are the same people defining free speech as " hate speech " misgendering someone as " violence " and then use these as examples of " hate crimes " or " extremism " ADL and these other organizations are in the fund raising business and nothing more. More " hate crimes " the more money the take in. I just showed you they're full of shit do with that information what you will. Don't shoot the messenger and I'm not right wing , Both side are equally ruining this country.

The NIH and CSIS as well?

Dude your assertion is false, yes major studies, like meta analysis have found right wing ideologies to be more prone to violent tendencies

I like how they basically say the right wingers are more retarded and thus likely to attack

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/comparative-analysis-violent-left-and-right-wing-extremist-groups


Meta analysis, high power and the heterogeneity was fine.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10463283.2020.1778324

Rope that in with the consistent finding that liberals have more empathy- which is clear as fucking day

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10281241/#:~:text=They%20found%20that%20on%20average,study%20by%20Pilskin%20et%20al.




Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 12:56:13 PM
haha he was serious? Oh man, not another hankins

I'm not that guys just a retard.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 12:56:44 PM
Where are you located?

WHAT are your intentions?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Hulkotron on September 11, 2025, 12:59:05 PM
anyone know djs whereabouts yesterday?


(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1920x1080/p0m283xv.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 01:01:08 PM
Hey Bud, let me fill you in on a little something that happened over the last couple of weeks. Trump floated the idea of banning firearms to the trans community because of all of the trans shootings that's been linked to mental illness (the evidence is irrefutable) but it was us conservatives that put a stop to it because we have a Second Amendment and banning a certain demographic their rights IS unconstitutional. So yeah, we stuck up for the trans communities in that way. We're not the ones going around causing mass shootings on the trans communities.

I don't give a flying fuck about the trans community, I seen maybe one of them in real life. I am not sure you could do a mass shooting on them as they appear to prefer being alone likely do to hygiene issues.

Is the evidence irrefutable, like have there been actually studies looking at the rates and not just the sensationalized stuff?

It is possible that these shootings by trans people just happen to have mental illness and conflating the two is bigotry. YOu are making the claim that because they are trans they are mentally ill. I am not saying thats not true but if we are making decisions like that there better be some fucking rigor in the analysis and not just it seems like that or what the media reports.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 11, 2025, 01:04:35 PM
Google Gretchen Felker-Martin

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0hL2t2XwAA0DwB?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 11, 2025, 01:06:46 PM
It is possible that these shootings by trans people just happen to have mental illness and conflating the two is bigotry. YOu are making the claim that because they are trans they are mentally ill. I am not saying thats not true but if we are making decisions like that there better be some fucking rigor in the analysis and not just it seems like that or what the media reports.

(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=700633.0;attach=1570158;image)
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=700633.0;attach=1570160;image)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2025, 01:17:40 PM
The NIH and CSIS as well?

Dude your assertion is false, yes major studies, like meta analysis have found right wing ideologies to be more prone to violent tendencies

I like how they basically say the right wingers are more retarded and thus likely to attack

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/comparative-analysis-violent-left-and-right-wing-extremist-groups


Meta analysis, high power and the heterogeneity was fine.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10463283.2020.1778324

Rope that in with the consistent finding that liberals have more empathy- which is clear as fucking day

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10281241/#:~:text=They%20found%20that%20on%20average,study%20by%20Pilskin%20et%20al.

Your faith in academia cute in a child-like kinda way. All academia is tainted and ' studies ' are crafted for a desired effect & outcome. You belief in them ( especially soft sciences ) proves your ignorance & bias . Carry on
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 11, 2025, 01:23:57 PM
Your faith in academia cute in a child-like kinda way. All academia is tainted and ' studies ' are crafted for a desired effect & outcome. You belief in them ( especially soft sciences ) proves your ignorance & bias . Carry on


Yes it does - Only he's an out & out Pronoun loving Loony Leftist as much as
His Bum buddy Prime is - They're so far gone They're beyond talking to or help.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 01:24:57 PM
Your faith in academia cute in a child-like kinda way. All academia is tainted and ' studies ' are crafted for a desired effect & outcome. You belief in them ( especially soft sciences ) proves your ignorance & bias . Carry on

Crazy fucking take. the reason you are using this computer is academia, driving a car, the medicines you take etc..

soft sciences are just fine, I highly doubt you know what you are talking about. You sound like an anti-intellectual. I assume you think philosophy is bullshit?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 01:25:48 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=700633.0;attach=1570158;image)
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=700633.0;attach=1570160;image)


Kimbrady could get it :P
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 01:26:44 PM

Yes it does - Only he's an out & out Pronoun loving Loony Leftist as much as
His Bum buddy Prime is - They're so far gone They're beyond talking to or help.

I asked you to use my pronouns mass/ter please. One more flagrant violation of this will results in consequences you cant even imagine.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Rambone on September 11, 2025, 01:28:58 PM
Bodybuilding related.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: tacobender on September 11, 2025, 01:29:33 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=700633.0;attach=1570158;image)
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=700633.0;attach=1570160;image)
bunch of sick fucks they should’ve ended up down somebody’s throat or in someone’s boxers instead they’re here on earth. Complete waste of cum.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 11, 2025, 01:34:27 PM

Yes it does - Only he's an out & out Pronoun loving Loony Leftist as much as
His Bum buddy Prime is - They're so far gone They're beyond talking to or help.

Is Prime gone btw?

Necrosis should be purged as well.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2025, 01:36:31 PM
Crazy fucking take. the reason you are using this computer is academia, driving a car, the medicines you take etc..

soft sciences are just fine, I highly doubt you know what you are talking about. You sound like an anti-intellectual. I assume you think philosophy is bullshit?

Nice non-sequitur I said soft sciences and if you think they're just fine you're either willfully ignorant or irretrievably stupid. I'm not anti-intellectual but I'm not blind either. The soft sciences are compromised by ideologues and have been for about 4 decades or more. Peter Boghossian exposed what gets published what doesn't and why.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 11, 2025, 01:40:32 PM
Is Prime gone btw?

Necrosis should be purged as well.


Nah Prime sticks to the politics board mainly
& Nursing his TDS 24/7 posting anything & everything anti Donald
He's beyond helping now.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 01:49:34 PM
Nice non-sequitur I said soft sciences and if you think they're just fine you're either willfully ignorant or irretrievably stupid. I'm not anti-intellectual but I'm not blind either. The soft sciences are compromised by ideologues and have been for about 4 decades or more. Peter Boghossian exposed what gets published what doesn't and why.

I knew you would try this as youre a lightweight. You actually said all science is tainted as are the studies and my belief in them (especially the soft sciences)...

so no you did not imply just soft sciences and what I said was not a non-sequitor as my statement did follow from yours. This tactic might work on morons, so nice try.

Boghossian did not expose what you are claiming he did, his initial attempt was to shitty journals outside of the filed in question, the second run was more damaging but again its in the fucking world of gender studies which I think is retarded and frankly new.

Psychology, philosophy, anthropology and sociology are all legitimate practices with ample research.


Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 11, 2025, 02:05:39 PM
I knew you would try this as youre a lightweight. You actually said all science is tainted as are the studies and my belief in them (especially the soft sciences)...

so no you did not imply just soft sciences and what I said was not a non-sequitor as my statement did follow from yours. This tactic might work on morons, so nice try.

Boghossian did not expose what you are claiming he did, his initial attempt was to shitty journals outside of the filed in question, the second run was more damaging but again its in the fucking world of gender studies which I think is retarded and frankly new.

Psychology, philosophy, anthropology and sociology are all legitimate practices with ample research.

Quote
I knew you would try this as youre a lightweight. You actually said all science is tainted as are the studies and my belief in them (especially the soft sciences)...

You're* and now you've been reduced to lying and multiple ad hominins. I said all of academia was compromised NOT all science. Seeing you're not operating in good faith entertaining your nonsense is done. Carry on


Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 02:14:35 PM
You're* and now you've been reduced to lying and multiple ad hominins. I said all of academia was compromised NOT all science. Seeing you're not operating in good faith entertaining your nonsense is done. Carry on

cry me a river, you literally started the ad hominins lol

you seem anti-science tbh. Academia is science, it's where its conducted mostly. you then implied my belief in studies was cute, especially the soft sciences. The word especially is key here as that would be less so for the hard sciences, obviously.

Just take your L like a man and don't run away.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on September 11, 2025, 02:15:58 PM
Google Gretchen Felker-Martin

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0hL2t2XwAA0DwB?format=png&name=small)

and he just got cancelled:

https://www.thewrap.com/dc-comics-cancels-red-hood-writer-charlie-kirk-death/
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 02:16:56 PM
where else would you get your information?

are you suggesting science is not the best method?

You claim that studies are fabricated for desired outcome, essentially saying science is fraudulent. Quite the stance to take.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: pamith on September 11, 2025, 02:17:15 PM
Brutal if true
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 02:17:41 PM
and he just got cancelled:

https://www.thewrap.com/dc-comics-cancels-red-hood-writer-charlie-kirk-death/

Proper fucking thing.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: CalorieKing on September 11, 2025, 02:30:48 PM
the thing about this Charlie Kurk murder is:  Ill use coach is back as an example. Jillions of people like him aregonna go on X and other platforms, make videos saying ooooo we are mad, no more talk this is war blah blah and in a week (or less) itll all be like nothing happened and none of these people like coach will have done a single thing. Talk talk talk.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 11, 2025, 02:44:46 PM
the thing about this Charlie Kurk murder is:  Ill use coach is back as an example. Jillions of people like him aregonna go on X and other platforms, make videos saying ooooo we are mad, no more talk this is war blah blah and in a week (or less) itll all be like nothing happened and none of these people like coach will have done a single thing. Talk talk talk.

There is some of that for sure, but also seeing a lot of I've actually seen a lot of folks say "don't let them turn us into them", "don't fall for it"....lots of people blaming agents of chaos instead of the left.

Hope we find out the truth.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 11, 2025, 02:47:43 PM
the thing about this Charlie Kurk murder is:  Ill use coach is back as an example. Jillions of people like him aregonna go on X and other platforms, make videos saying ooooo we are mad, no more talk this is war blah blah and in a week (or less) itll all be like nothing happened and none of these people like coach will have done a single thing. Talk talk talk.


Shit hasn’t gotten bad yet. When the whole population feels like it has nothing to lose, we’ll end up there. Aside from a fringe, but loud, group of whackos we are doing alright as a society. I hope
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 11, 2025, 02:51:09 PM
:D

His wheels are too big to be me😃😃😃😃😃
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 11, 2025, 03:22:08 PM
RIP brother in Christ
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 11, 2025, 03:23:13 PM
quick question coach

timothy mcveigh?

lefty?

you mention doubling down..... thats vague what does it mean?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 11, 2025, 03:24:45 PM
RIP brother in Christ

why didnt christ stop the bullet?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 03:35:12 PM
why didnt christ stop the bullet?

Christ is obviously a lefty.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 11, 2025, 03:41:40 PM
fair play necrosisi love the rational position shame is that so many of the US lads dont see it.

a simple fact

2nd amendment was in place to allow people to rise against the government. nothing else. either the constitution is right or its wrong.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 11, 2025, 04:00:09 PM
fair play necrosisi love the rational position shame is that so many of the US lads dont see it.

a simple fact

2nd amendment was in place to allow people to rise against the government. nothing else. either the constitution is right or its wrong.

We’re happy for you that you prefer to be disarmed, congrats.

They will make sure the immigrants in your country are especially dangerous, watch.

I see South Park pulled the Charlie Kirk episode.

https://nypost.com/2025/09/11/media/comedy-central-pulls-south-park-episode-mocking-charlie-kirk-after-assassination/

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 11, 2025, 04:24:15 PM
We’re happy for you that you prefer to be disarmed, congrats.

They will make sure the immigrants in your country are especially dangerous, watch.

I see South Park pulled the Charlie Kirk episode.

https://nypost.com/2025/09/11/media/comedy-central-pulls-south-park-episode-mocking-charlie-kirk-after-assassination/


USA 2024-11,479 GUN DEATHS
UK 24


you have double in a day than we do in a year



Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: SF1900 on September 11, 2025, 04:53:27 PM
I knew you would try this as youre a lightweight. You actually said all science is tainted as are the studies and my belief in them (especially the soft sciences)...

so no you did not imply just soft sciences and what I said was not a non-sequitor as my statement did follow from yours. This tactic might work on morons, so nice try.

Boghossian did not expose what you are claiming he did, his initial attempt was to shitty journals outside of the filed in question, the second run was more damaging but again its in the fucking world of gender studies which I think is retarded and frankly new.

Psychology, philosophy, anthropology and sociology are all legitimate practices with ample research.

This is the thing, there is tons of academic dishonesty in the hard sciences too. The whole "Publish or Perish."

"Academic dishonesty in publishing is a significant and growing problem across hard sciences, driven by intense "publish or perish" pressures. The misconduct, which includes fraud, plagiarism, and manipulated peer reviews, undermines scientific integrity, damages public trust, and can lead to the retraction of thousands of scientific papers"


Analyses of PubMed retractions (Fang, Steen, & Casadevall, 2012, PNAS) suggest about 67% of retractions in biomedical and life sciences are due to misconduct (fabrication, falsification, plagiarism).

When asked about colleagues, the numbers were higher: ~14% for fabrication/falsification and up to 72% for questionable practices.

A 2025 study from Northwestern University found that "the publication of fraudulent science is outpacing the growth rate of legitimate scientific publications." The study also discovered broad networks of organized scientific fraudsters. So, even with the hard sciences, fraudulent research is outpacing legitimate research.

Questionable Research Practices:

Beyond outright fraud, there's a broader category of behavior called "questionable research practices" (QRPs). These are actions that violate good research practices but may not constitute outright fraud. They include things like:

    P-hacking: Selectively analyzing data to find a statistically significant result.

    HARKing: Hypothesizing after the results are known.

    Selective reporting: Not reporting data that don't support the hypothesis.

    Improper authorship: Including someone as an author who didn't contribute significantly.

Studies show a much higher prevalence of these practices. The 2009 meta-analysis found that up to 33.7% of scientists admitted to engaging in questionable research practices.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 11, 2025, 05:01:59 PM
why didnt christ stop the bullet?

Because he didn’t get enough Likes and Shares and failed to forward the email to ten people. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 11, 2025, 05:04:21 PM
RIP brother in Christ

So you saying Charlie is seeing a brown skin immigrant liberal that was born out of wedlock right now?

Imagine how he is going to be judged by his own very words and beliefs. 

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 11, 2025, 05:10:13 PM
quick question coach

timothy mcveigh?

lefty?

you mention doubling down..... thats vague what does it mean?


I think what we are seeing is somewhat of a pendulum swinging back another way. Mcveigh was in response to Ruby Ridge and Branch Dividians. I think what we are seeing now is just blowback in the other direction. The left has been pretty violent the last ten years or so. I remember my mom talking one time when I was in college when all the terrorist bombings we’re happening from moslems and she said “it used to be the bombings you heard about and saw were over in Ireland”. I am in no way justifying what happened to Charlie Kirk, it’s disgusting. But, it doesn’t surprise me in that it happened. It’s shocking for sure and very said, but if you’d have told me eventually some whacko would shoot him I wouldn’t bet against that. Like the healthcare CEO. Disgusting that it happened but it isn’t super surprising.

Charlie had a wife and kids and they’ll grow up without him and his guidance. I shudder to think about those two little girls needing their dad and being able to watch him and how he treated their mother. Now, who knows how they will turn out. I hope the guy who killed him gets a bullet. And it wouldn’t surprise me if he is found and never makes it to trial. RIP Charlie.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 11, 2025, 05:14:14 PM

I think what we are seeing is somewhat of a pendulum swinging back another way. Mcveigh was in response to Ruby Ridge and Branch Dividians. I think what we are seeing now is just blowback in the other direction. The left has been pretty violent the last ten years or so. I remember my mom talking one time when I was in college when all the terrorist bombings we’re happening from moslems and she said “it used to be the bombings you heard about and saw were over in Ireland”. I am in no way justifying what happened to Charlie Kirk, it’s disgusting. But, it doesn’t surprise me in that it happened. It’s shocking for sure and very said, but if you’d have told me eventually some whacko would shoot him I wouldn’t bet against that. Like the healthcare CEO. Disgusting that it happened but it isn’t super surprising.

Charlie had a wife and kids and they’ll grow up without him and his guidance. I shudder to think about those two little girls needing their dad and being able to watch him and how he treated their mother. Now, who knows how they will turn out. I hope the guy who killed him gets a bullet. And it wouldn’t surprise me if he is found and never makes it to trial. RIP Charlie.

Yep.gotta feel for his 2 young children

Its obvious you are a good souled individual so God Bless you brother and im glad to know you
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Zillotch on September 11, 2025, 06:45:11 PM
You claim that studies are fabricated for desired outcome, essentially saying science is fraudulent. Quite the stance to take.

what are you… canadian?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 11, 2025, 07:05:09 PM
quick question coach

timothy mcveigh?

lefty?

you mention doubling down..... thats vague what does it mean?
There's a theory that the OC bombing was an inside job like 9/11. I still remember the photo of the Ryder truck at Camp Gruber. McVeigh was in the military at one point...

(https://external-preview.redd.it/b56AtS0xfhYQMLqv4dwTgBj9LBkWsfH71JlBUtyC7Ng.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3d9ff3be2789b20e194c5457d244803908f887e1)

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Camp+Gruber+Heliport/@35.667588,-95.1705279,383a,20y,41.6t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x87b5fb1f8b93ae09:0x3688b71891e5b713
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rocket on September 11, 2025, 07:06:55 PM
As opposed to firing more bullets (which is just yet more wrong) quite a few of the people who have publicly stated jobs and are liking/posting shit are going to find their jobs cancelled in the next few weeks

A step in the right direction.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: CalorieKing on September 11, 2025, 07:13:43 PM
what are you… canadian?
>:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 11, 2025, 07:18:19 PM
This is the thing, there is tons of academic dishonesty in the hard sciences too. The whole "Publish or Perish."

"Academic dishonesty in publishing is a significant and growing problem across hard sciences, driven by intense "publish or perish" pressures. The misconduct, which includes fraud, plagiarism, and manipulated peer reviews, undermines scientific integrity, damages public trust, and can lead to the retraction of thousands of scientific papers"


Analyses of PubMed retractions (Fang, Steen, & Casadevall, 2012, PNAS) suggest about 67% of retractions in biomedical and life sciences are due to misconduct (fabrication, falsification, plagiarism).

When asked about colleagues, the numbers were higher: ~14% for fabrication/falsification and up to 72% for questionable practices.

A 2025 study from Northwestern University found that "the publication of fraudulent science is outpacing the growth rate of legitimate scientific publications." The study also discovered broad networks of organized scientific fraudsters. So, even with the hard sciences, fraudulent research is outpacing legitimate research.

Questionable Research Practices:

Beyond outright fraud, there's a broader category of behavior called "questionable research practices" (QRPs). These are actions that violate good research practices but may not constitute outright fraud. They include things like:

    P-hacking: Selectively analyzing data to find a statistically significant result.

    HARKing: Hypothesizing after the results are known.

    Selective reporting: Not reporting data that don't support the hypothesis.

    Improper authorship: Including someone as an author who didn't contribute significantly.

Studies show a much higher prevalence of these practices. The 2009 meta-analysis found that up to 33.7% of scientists admitted to engaging in questionable research practices.
Negrosis will ignore this post.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: rocket on September 11, 2025, 07:21:38 PM
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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Zillotch on September 11, 2025, 07:24:14 PM
>:( >:( >:(

canadians r a little on the naive side.

not all…. but maybe most  ;D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Bevo on September 11, 2025, 07:47:26 PM
Is the coach about to go to war??
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 11, 2025, 07:52:08 PM
There's a theory that the OC bombing was an inside job like 9/11. I still remember the photo of the Ryder truck at Camp Gruber. McVeigh was in the military at one point...

(https://external-preview.redd.it/b56AtS0xfhYQMLqv4dwTgBj9LBkWsfH71JlBUtyC7Ng.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3d9ff3be2789b20e194c5457d244803908f887e1)

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Camp+Gruber+Heliport/@35.667588,-95.1705279,383a,20y,41.6t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x87b5fb1f8b93ae09:0x3688b71891e5b713

I’m glad that you posted this.

I remember hearing that McViegh was a CIA agent

I didn’t want to have explain that the 38 returns.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 11, 2025, 08:19:38 PM

USA 2024-11,479 GUN DEATHS
UK 24


you have double in a day than we do in a year

Bro, I'm not sure why you're going here.

You're smart enough to know we are so much larger, and there's so much more context around this.  Gang violence, suicides, etc.....all this influences the numbers.

And your country is being overrun by isalm, and you can get jailed for tweeting stuff.  I know this isn't something you want, or agree with.

It's an odd position for you to be taking - just throwing out numbers without context -this is something the shit ass leftists do, which you are not.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 08:33:20 PM
Where’s that knucklehead Necrosis and his “studies”?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 08:50:16 PM
.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 11, 2025, 08:51:00 PM
How's you doing Necrosis of the Brain ?
It appears your idiotic stupidity has got a good few posters on your case,
😂🤣  keep it going its funny watching you get beaten from pillar to post
👊🏻
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2025, 08:55:23 PM
quick question coach

timothy mcveigh?

lefty?

you mention doubling down..... thats vague what does it mean?

What does going back 30 years to McVeigh have to do with anything today?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: tacobender on September 11, 2025, 10:13:30 PM
What does going back 30 years to McVeigh have to do with anything today?
yea no shit I agree coach
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: tacobender on September 11, 2025, 10:19:58 PM
.
;D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: nobody in particular on September 11, 2025, 11:30:02 PM
anyone know djs whereabouts yesterday?


(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1920x1080/p0m283xv.jpg)

everyone knows he was doings squats and deadlifts.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 12, 2025, 01:47:33 AM
everyone knows he was doings squats and deadlifts.

He did squats while lifting the rifle on the sniper loft?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 12, 2025, 02:02:10 AM
is that trans army genuine?

if so the place is seriously more fucked than I thought.

either way lots of people I respect on here and we have different opinions. its not my country and its arrogant of me to pipe up when a) I'm not in the middle of it and b) I have limited knowedge of it.

out of respect for getbiggers I will leave this thread alone.

nil homo-en
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 12, 2025, 02:51:50 AM
.

Gee, this “Trans Army” sounds very real and fearsome.  Who knows, as a prominent conservative voice they might come for you next  :D

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 03:07:34 AM
How's you doing Necrosis of the Brain ?
It appears your idiotic stupidity has got a good few posters on your case,
😂🤣  keep it going its funny watching you get beaten from pillar to post
👊🏻


I take it as a compliment.
Only two posters have decent, well thought out replies. The rest are extreme right wing racist nutters.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 03:08:29 AM
What does going back 30 years to McVeigh have to do with anything today?

do you fear the trans army?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 12, 2025, 03:17:56 AM
Could this sociopath be the guy? looks very similar to the shooter...

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: balco on September 12, 2025, 03:22:19 AM
RIP Charlie Kirk
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 03:34:17 AM
This is the thing, there is tons of academic dishonesty in the hard sciences too. The whole "Publish or Perish."

"Academic dishonesty in publishing is a significant and growing problem across hard sciences, driven by intense "publish or perish" pressures. The misconduct, which includes fraud, plagiarism, and manipulated peer reviews, undermines scientific integrity, damages public trust, and can lead to the retraction of thousands of scientific papers"


Analyses of PubMed retractions (Fang, Steen, & Casadevall, 2012, PNAS) suggest about 67% of retractions in biomedical and life sciences are due to misconduct (fabrication, falsification, plagiarism).

When asked about colleagues, the numbers were higher: ~14% for fabrication/falsification and up to 72% for questionable practices.

A 2025 study from Northwestern University found that "the publication of fraudulent science is outpacing the growth rate of legitimate scientific publications." The study also discovered broad networks of organized scientific fraudsters. So, even with the hard sciences, fraudulent research is outpacing legitimate research.

Questionable Research Practices:

Beyond outright fraud, there's a broader category of behavior called "questionable research practices" (QRPs). These are actions that violate good research practices but may not constitute outright fraud. They include things like:

    P-hacking: Selectively analyzing data to find a statistically significant result.

    HARKing: Hypothesizing after the results are known.

    Selective reporting: Not reporting data that don't support the hypothesis.

    Improper authorship: Including someone as an author who didn't contribute significantly.

Studies show a much higher prevalence of these practices. The 2009 meta-analysis found that up to 33.7% of scientists admitted to engaging in questionable research practices.


The first study isn't really helpful here, it just indicates the reasons for retractions, I wouldn't suspect falsification to be so high but poor practice makes perfect sense, tons of cutting corners to get published and copying others is exceptionally high. I would have to see the impact factor and SJR to tell if this study even really matters as the lesser journals are likely allowing things in and would skew the data.

Do you have the second paper? I would like to review the methodology and stats.

The last one, it would again depend on what are considered questionable, are we including using a weaker statistical analysis, not citing things properly etc. if so that's fine and par for the course with any discipline. If we are talkign fraud then obviously its a different beast.

even a PMID would be good for the second study.

I am not a fan of gender studies, but do think philosophy, psychology and other soft sciences are extremely useful tools.

Keep in mind while your numbers sound impressive, the rate of retractions per 10k papers is 11.2
https://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2024/04/18/guest-post-making-sense-of-retractions-and-tackling-research-misconduct/#:~:text=It%20is%20true%20that%20the,paper%20in%20comparison%20to%202014.

so I find the second paper you cited (odd there are no names etc) citing something so outlandish. Did you write an AI response?

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 12, 2025, 03:36:11 AM
notice how every single cctv clip is of him partially covered or turning away

Fucks sake send the footage to hankins , he will manage to get a perfect pic from footage, hes been doing it here for years
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 03:41:12 AM
Negrosis will ignore this post.

Oh will i baby boi.

Nevermind SF I found your paper, it doesn't say what you say it does or the AI said

"A 2025 study by Northwestern unversity after reviewing aggregated data on the lists of deindexed journals from literature aggregators such as Web of Science, Scopus, Medline, data from Retraction Watch and PubPeer found that while the total number of research publications double every 15 years, articles from suspected research paper mills double every 1.5 years while the number of retracted articles double every 3.3 years and number of articles with PubPeer comments double every 3.6 years"

again the rate I posted is correct, its about 10 papers per 10k so what they found. Also, the study you cited which sounds so impressive is on DEINDEXD journals, aka journals that are removed because they are trash and allowing bullshit in.
So this paper used journals that were removed for doing this and what its stating is that one is doubling faster then the other. retractions are not outpacing production but the number of total "good" papers" is way more that "fraudulent" papers.

The total number of fraudulent papers produced per year based on my math is 0.11% of all published paper, hardly something to cry over

So none of what you stated is troublesome or bothersome and in fact, there is a lower error rate or incidence of fraudulent practices then other institutions, like banking, the market etc..

Science wins again. Imagine arguing against it while using a computer.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 12, 2025, 04:06:58 AM
Could this sociopath be the guy? looks very similar to the shooter...



They’re both white men with brown hair, we can’t rule the possibility out.  I’ll notify the FBI hotline with regards to your findings.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 12, 2025, 04:12:55 AM
Oh will i baby boi.

Nevermind SF I found your paper, it doesn't say what you say it does or the AI said

"A 2025 study by Northwestern unversity after reviewing aggregated data on the lists of deindexed journals from literature aggregators such as Web of Science, Scopus, Medline, data from Retraction Watch and PubPeer found that while the total number of research publications double every 15 years, articles from suspected research paper mills double every 1.5 years while the number of retracted articles double every 3.3 years and number of articles with PubPeer comments double every 3.6 years"

again the rate I posted is correct, its about 10 papers per 10k so what they found. Also, the study you cited which sounds so impressive is on DEINDEXD journals, aka journals that are removed because they are trash and allowing bullshit in.
So this paper used journals that were removed for doing this and what its stating is that one is doubling faster then the other. retractions are not outpacing production but the number of total "good" papers" is way more that "fraudulent" papers.

The total number of fraudulent papers produced per year based on my math is 0.11% of all published paper, hardly something to cry over

So none of what you stated is troublesome or bothersome and in fact, there is a lower error rate or incidence of fraudulent practices then other institutions, like banking, the market etc..

Science wins again. Imagine arguing against it while using a computer.

It’s not unreasonable to acknowledge some of the issues with today’s research & publication process of today.  On the other hand, what’s the alternative to the scientific method ???

The biggest issue I see is the lack of repeat trials to confirm the findings of previously-conducted studies.  It’s not as sensational or profitable as some of the ground breaking research being conducted but repeatability is a key principle of the scienctific method.  More repeat studies would also help uncover any fraudulent studies/findings.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 04:20:07 AM
It’s not unreasonable to acknowledge some of the issues with today’s research & publication process of today.  On the other hand, what’s the alternative to the scientific method ???

The biggest issue I see is the lack of repeat trials to confirm the findings of previously-conducted studies.  It’s not as sensational or profitable as some of the ground breaking research being conducted but repeatability is a key principle of the scienctific method.  More repeat studies would also help uncover any fraudulent studies/findings.


Not at all, however, if you were to randomly pick papers out of a pile the chances of finding one thats not well conducted in next to zero. What that means is you can trust that science is doing its job. However, without having knowledge in stats and the field you will likely have to rely on reputable experts to interpret the data for you. There is no alternative

Replication is key, that depends on the studies though, the type I mean. For things like epidemiological studies replicability is not truly possible unless you use the exact same data set, stats is king here and good pooling. For double blinded placebo controlled randomized trials replication is a must as the independent variable should be causative and thus replicable.

I think the soft sciences are more prone to errors but nothing like ND is claiming, his claim that all academia is tainted is untrue and anti-science, its frankly dumb and unfounded.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 12, 2025, 04:40:26 AM

Not at all, however, if you were to randomly pick papers out of a pile the chances of finding one thats not well conducted in next to zero. What that means is you can trust that science is doing its job. However, without having knowledge in stats and the field you will likely have to rely on reputable experts to interpret the data for you. There is no alternative

Replication is key, that depends on the studies though, the type I mean. For things like epidemiological studies replicability is not truly possible unless you use the exact same data set, stats is king here and good pooling. For double blinded placebo controlled randomized trials replication is a must as the independent variable should be causative and thus replicable.

I think the soft sciences are more prone to errors but nothing like ND is claiming, his claim that all academia is tainted is untrue and anti-science, its frankly dumb and unfounded.

Well said.  Thank you for clarifying the point about replication with epidemiological vs experimental studies - I absolutely agree.  Its been a while since I’ve last thought about this and I forgot to include that point in my original post.  I appreciate you jogging my memory.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: SF1900 on September 12, 2025, 04:43:30 AM

The first study isn't really helpful here, it just indicates the reasons for retractions, I wouldn't suspect falsification to be so high but poor practice makes perfect sense, tons of cutting corners to get published and copying others is exceptionally high. I would have to see the impact factor and SJR to tell if this study even really matters as the lesser journals are likely allowing things in and would skew the data.

Do you have the second paper? I would like to review the methodology and stats.

The last one, it would again depend on what are considered questionable, are we including using a weaker statistical analysis, not citing things properly etc. if so that's fine and par for the course with any discipline. If we are talkign fraud then obviously its a different beast.

even a PMID would be good for the second study.

I am not a fan of gender studies, but do think philosophy, psychology and other soft sciences are extremely useful tools.

Keep in mind while your numbers sound impressive, the rate of retractions per 10k papers is 11.2
https://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2024/04/18/guest-post-making-sense-of-retractions-and-tackling-research-misconduct/#:~:text=It%20is%20true%20that%20the,paper%20in%20comparison%20to%202014.

so I find the second paper you cited (odd there are no names etc) citing something so outlandish. Did you write an AI response?

Without going in-depth, the point I was making that fraud is also found in hard science research. Yes, there is different type of fraud and degrees; I was just pointing out that it’s not only found in the soft sciences. Read my PM I sent you.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 04:48:20 AM
Negrosis will ignore this post.

Any thoughts of your own now????

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 12, 2025, 05:02:16 AM
Bringing the thread back on track:

Quote
Beau Mason, the head of Utah’s Department Public Safety, told NBC’s @BreakingChesky tonight that authorities “have no idea” about the identity and location of Charlie Kirk’s killer, a remarkably definitive statement.  The clip just aired on @PsakiBriefing on @MSNBC

https://x.com/DilanianMSNBC/status/1966313220844753314

Pretty stark difference between this and the response to Luigi Mangione just a year prior.  Either this is a deep state/Israel hit and the feds are getting orders to bungle the investigation, or they’ve just gotten that incompetent in a years time.  Whichever is funnier, I guess.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 12, 2025, 05:07:57 AM
Bringing the thread back on track:

https://x.com/DilanianMSNBC/status/1966313220844753314

Pretty stark difference between this and the response to Luigi Mangione just a year prior.  Either this is a deep state/Israel hit and the feds are getting orders to bungle the investigation, or they’ve just gotten that incompetent in a years time.  Whichever is funnier, I guess.

It's a deep state hit

Should have been soros and his sons

On a side note my taxi driver was taking bout corrupt politics and he brought up that shitstain soros
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 12, 2025, 05:26:07 AM

Not at all, however, if you were to randomly pick papers out of a pile the chances of finding one thats not well conducted in next to zero. What that means is you can trust that science is doing its job. However, without having knowledge in stats and the field you will likely have to rely on reputable experts to interpret the data for you. There is no alternative

Replication is key, that depends on the studies though, the type I mean. For things like epidemiological studies replicability is not truly possible unless you use the exact same data set, stats is king here and good pooling. For double blinded placebo controlled randomized trials replication is a must as the independent variable should be causative and thus replicable.

I think the soft sciences are more prone to errors but nothing like ND is claiming, his claim that all academia is tainted is untrue and anti-science, its frankly dumb and unfounded.

That is debatable
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 12, 2025, 05:48:54 AM
This is a post from a fellow called Negrosis on Facebook:

Israel was behind the shooting.

Crystal clear.

That it comes so close after Israeli bombings in Tunisia and Qatar is a signature that reeks of Mossad, especially considering that Charlie Kirk had started to shift in his position on Israel and declined Netanyahu’s personal invitation to “visit Israel.”

Moreover, one of his closest associates wrote that Charlie feared possibly being assassinated by Mossad.


I personally have no regard for Charlie Kirk. He stands for atrocities incompatible with civilization and has carried water for Israel’s genocide against the Palestinians until very recently. That is not where the weight lies – it is the message Israel is now sending to the United States. They are now not only willing to strike allied states but also key figures within MAGA to sow chaos between the already infected rivalry between liberals and conservatives in the U.S., and to silence the Epstein and pedophile scandal, literally through death threats. I would not be particularly surprised if this accelerates the release of the pedophile Ghislaine Maxwell.

Israel judged that the short-term advantage of provoking chaos in the U.S. outweighed the risks as long as they got Charlie Kirk out of the way and left Turning Point USA leaderless (to then install a more “suitable” candidate, preferably a pushover), while at the same time camouflaging their deed by throwing roses on his grave and pointing to “the Left” by leaving behind “evidence” fit only for a slapstick film, when the assassination has clearly been carried out by a professional and the bullet placed in the artery – something Israeli snipers have become notorious for in Gaza against countless children.

This assassination is also a message to others within the American right where opinion against Israel has soured, including Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. Several attacks will occur in the foreseeable future. Israel has estimated that Americans are cowards and will not dare to strike back at them regardless of provocations. The sitting president is moreover their plaything, a dying old man, who stands at the center of Epstein’s empire of kompromat.

“Say it was the Left who did it, or another bullet will come.”

Utterly despicable and disgusting behavior, though nothing new for Israel, who are also reasonably suspected of having murdered JFK. Disappointed to see comments where people lap up the pre-planted propaganda.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 12, 2025, 05:51:55 AM
GREAT NEWS! According to President Trump, they've just caught the fucker  8) 

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 12, 2025, 05:59:47 AM
According to President Trump, they've got the fucker  8) 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirks-suspected-assassin-captured-after-fatal-shooting-influential-conservative-voice-utah

Already posted a new thread on the capture, are we going to go thru several more days of loony leftist spammers of Facebook knowledge or conspiracy theories in this polluted thread?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 12, 2025, 06:04:28 AM
Already posted a new thread on the capture, are we going to go thru several more days of loony leftist spammers of Facebook knowledge or conspiracy theories in this polluted thread?

Good one.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 06:39:29 AM
That is debatable

What do you mean by that?

what ways do you think it is failing, elaborate if you dont mind, please.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 12, 2025, 06:41:58 AM
GREAT NEWS! According to President Trump, they've just caught the fucker  8) 



Good on trump and good on that minister a man of God
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 12, 2025, 06:43:48 AM
trump had fuck all to do with it the lad confessed to his dad- a pig - who grassed him up
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: SF1900 on September 12, 2025, 08:11:16 AM
The shooter/family turned him in. He was not captured by LE or anyone else.

Totally turned himself in.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: IroNat on September 12, 2025, 08:14:14 AM
He couldn't keep a secret.
Batman said every arch criminal has a desire to be caught.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: IroNat on September 12, 2025, 08:14:47 AM
The shooter/family turned him in. He was not captured by LE or anyone else.

Totally turned himself in.

Will his dad collect the $100,000 reward?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 12, 2025, 08:21:33 AM
Will his dad collect the $100,000 reward?
Yes, then he'll spend it all on a lawyer for his son.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 12, 2025, 08:22:56 AM
The shooter/family turned him in. He was not captured by LE or anyone else.

Totally turned himself in.

that press conference about a concerted effort by law enforcement??

Someone fucking dobbed him in.

Most crimes are solved this way, there are no Columbos anymore
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 12, 2025, 08:24:14 AM
that press conference about a concerted effort by law enforcement??

Someone fucking dobbed him in.

Most crimes are solved this way, there are no Columbos anymore
Cops are so egotistical.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2025, 08:34:11 AM
is that trans army genuine?

if so the place is seriously more fucked than I thought.

either way lots of people I respect on here and we have different opinions. its not my country and its arrogant of me to pipe up when a) I'm not in the middle of it and b) I have limited knowedge of it.

out of respect for getbiggers I will leave this thread alone.

nil homo-en

It’s gotten bad here.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: IroNat on September 12, 2025, 08:35:26 AM
that press conference about a concerted effort by law enforcement??

Someone fucking dobbed him in.

Most crimes are solved this way, there are no Columbos anymore

His dad was in law enforcement so that counts.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: loco on September 12, 2025, 08:47:34 AM
Tranny or not?

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/suw3YenGdGpcM2Jpyat_7g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xMzUwO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/fox_news_text_979/2cec19c2c59cd24fd4b99358535216f3)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 08:50:50 AM
It’s gotten bad here.

He wasnt trans you fucking lunatic.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 12, 2025, 08:53:44 AM
He wasnt trans you fucking lunatic.

just another deranged liberal sicko 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Ssxa on September 12, 2025, 09:11:59 AM
This is a post from a fellow called Negrosis on Facebook:

Israel was behind the shooting.

Crystal clear.

That it comes so close after Israeli bombings in Tunisia and Qatar is a signature that reeks of Mossad, especially considering that Charlie Kirk had started to shift in his position on Israel and declined Netanyahu’s personal invitation to “visit Israel.”

Moreover, one of his closest associates wrote that Charlie feared possibly being assassinated by Mossad.


I personally have no regard for Charlie Kirk. He stands for atrocities incompatible with civilization and has carried water for Israel’s genocide against the Palestinians until very recently. That is not where the weight lies – it is the message Israel is now sending to the United States. They are now not only willing to strike allied states but also key figures within MAGA to sow chaos between the already infected rivalry between liberals and conservatives in the U.S., and to silence the Epstein and pedophile scandal, literally through death threats. I would not be particularly surprised if this accelerates the release of the pedophile Ghislaine Maxwell.

Israel judged that the short-term advantage of provoking chaos in the U.S. outweighed the risks as long as they got Charlie Kirk out of the way and left Turning Point USA leaderless (to then install a more “suitable” candidate, preferably a pushover), while at the same time camouflaging their deed by throwing roses on his grave and pointing to “the Left” by leaving behind “evidence” fit only for a slapstick film, when the assassination has clearly been carried out by a professional and the bullet placed in the artery – something Israeli snipers have become notorious for in Gaza against countless children.

This assassination is also a message to others within the American right where opinion against Israel has soured, including Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. Several attacks will occur in the foreseeable future. Israel has estimated that Americans are cowards and will not dare to strike back at them regardless of provocations. The sitting president is moreover their plaything, a dying old man, who stands at the center of Epstein’s empire of kompromat.

“Say it was the Left who did it, or another bullet will come.”

Utterly despicable and disgusting behavior, though nothing new for Israel, who are also reasonably suspected of having murdered JFK. Disappointed to see comments where people lap up the pre-planted propaganda.
Charlie was possibly the most influential conservative voice right after Trump. He was a future president in the making. That said he had recently started questioning Israel and the deep state knew they couldn't afford to have him switch up on them because he is the person with the biggest base of young followers. A psychotic trans sympatizer wouldn't have the abilty to pull a hit off of this magnitude. You would also have to be a trained sniper to hit somone from 200 Yards away directly in the one area a bullet proof vest can't protect. At that distance, wind speed, humidity and a lot of other factors would affect the bullet. Writing pro trans ideaology on the bullets is a typical diversion tactic done to have people get completely thrown off track.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 09:42:46 AM
just another deranged liberal sicko

party affiliation was none
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2025, 09:44:23 AM
He wasnt trans you fucking lunatic.

I didn't say he was, did I?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2025, 09:45:28 AM
party affiliation was none

You really are that dense, aren't you? This is exactly what I meant with you about having any common sense.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Eric2 on September 12, 2025, 09:49:05 AM
Charlie was possibly the most influential conservative voice right after Trump. He was a future president in the making. That said he had recently started questioning Israel and the deep state knew they couldn't afford to have him switch up on them because he is the person with the biggest base of young followers. A psychotic trans sympatizer wouldn't have the abilty to pull a hit off of this magnitude. You would also have to be a trained sniper to hit somone from 200 Yards away directly in the one area a bullet proof vest can't protect. At that distance, wind speed, humidity and a lot of other factors would affect the bullet. Writing pro trans ideaology on the bullets is a typical diversion tactic done to have people get completely thrown off track.

I served in the Marine Corps almost 40 years ago. I qualified Rifle expert, with a score just 14 points away from maximum score.
We fired at targets from 200,300,and 500 yards away. Using iron sights, no scope. We trained for wind, distance elevation drop all that. 
The dog target or bullseye is the same size in your sight as holding ones thumb just below a number 2s pencil lead held out at arms length.
I was able to hit bullseyes on all targets at every single yard line and quality as rifle expert.
I don't believe one has to have had this training nessesaryily to do what this shooter did.
If one has any amount of ability and experience in a steady position WITH A SCOPE. I believe this is a doable shot at only 150 yards away, which is shorter than any distance I trained on at any rifle range.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: SF1900 on September 12, 2025, 09:56:23 AM
Will his dad collect the $100,000 reward?

I dont know. you should ask them.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: beakdoctor on September 12, 2025, 10:00:01 AM
Bodybuilding related.

Ha! What a stupid and obtuse notion.


This, while tragic and shocking is an outlier.

Not that I support it (I dont) but sending the national guard is as much about rampant crime as it is about the flippant, liberal, impotent attitude that condones it  by the local government, justice system and leadership of the cities the national guard has been sent to.

This One incident is an outlier in Utah.

So... no. There's no reason to send the nationL guard to Utah.

What an asinine thought.

There really isn't a reason to send the national guard to any city to take over law enforcement. The logical next steps to where that could lead will be the end of democracy. A federal police force would be the end of liberty. And I support law enforcement- for the most part.

I disagree with police chiefs who are clearly DEI picks and any municipalities that enforced the insane covid mandates. And I vehemently disagree with sending in the national guard.

For arguments sake even if they "clean up the streets" , anyone taken into custody will be let go by the same broken justice system that allowed it to be turned into a sithole in the first place. Unless all their custodies are charged federally which is an even bigger problem.

*I really don't know what exactly the national guard is actually doing in D.C., like what are their daily duties? *
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 12, 2025, 10:18:42 AM


*I really don't know what exactly the national guard is actually doing in D.C., like what are their daily duties? *

Just having their presence scare and discourage criminals would be my guess.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 12, 2025, 10:39:49 AM
I served in the Marine Corps almost 40 years ago. I qualified Rifle expert, with a score just 14 points away from maximum score.
We fired at targets from 200,300,and 500 yards away. Using iron sights, no scope. We trained for wind, distance elevation drop all that. 
The dog target or bullseye is the same size in your sight as holding ones thumb just below a number 2s pencil lead held out at arms length.
I was able to hit bullseyes on all targets at every single yard line and quality as rifle expert.
I don't believe one has to have had this training nessesaryily to do what this shooter did.
If one has any amount of ability and experience in a steady position WITH A SCOPE. I believe this is a doable shot at only 150 yards away, which is shorter than any distance I trained on at any rifle range.

Correct. 200 yards, in prone positon, with a zeroed rifle is nothing. Queen Vissy could pull that shot off.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 10:40:47 AM
I didn't say he was, did I?
\\

Dude stop, lololol
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: MajorDomo on September 12, 2025, 10:41:33 AM
The shooter/family turned him in. He was not captured by LE or anyone else.

Totally turned himself in.

"The father recognized his 22-year-old son from photos of the suspected shooter that were released by authorities Thursday, leading the parent to confront his son when he returned home, sources said." The dad tuned him in.

But of course the police had nothing to do with it - those surveillance photos just appeared out of thin air.

I like you SF so I'll refrain from commenting any further.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: MajorDomo on September 12, 2025, 10:42:25 AM
\\

Dude stop, lololol

Do us all a favor and inject KCl into your veins
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 10:42:44 AM
You really are that dense, aren't you? This is exactly what I meant with you about having any common sense.

That's called a fact. i am not willing to jump to any conclusions like you that he wrote free trannies on bullets and that it was a leftist off the hop. Whatever he is I could care fucking less, I am not a reactionary retard though.

I will wait till we find out more, what he says about his motivations etc etc.. speculating is silly.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 10:43:17 AM
Do us all a favor and inject KCl into your veins

Meltdown!!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 12, 2025, 11:10:55 AM
apparently the killer was a groyper

far right nationalist who followed nick fuentes and believed kirk was a fake coservative.


so is he now a goody or a baddy?

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: SF1900 on September 12, 2025, 11:13:12 AM
"The father recognized his 22-year-old son from photos of the suspected shooter that were released by authorities Thursday, leading the parent to confront his son when he returned home, sources said." The dad tuned him in.

But of course the police had nothing to do with it - those surveillance photos just appeared out of thin air.

I like you SF so I'll refrain from commenting any further.

Of course the photos matter. I’m just saying the governor and LE are making it a little too much about “we got him.” I guess, which technically they did. I have zero problems with cops; guess it was more a dig at the governor.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: GymnJuice on September 12, 2025, 11:17:30 AM
This is a post from a fellow called Negrosis on Facebook:

Israel was behind the shooting.

Crystal clear.

That it comes so close after Israeli bombings in Tunisia and Qatar is a signature that reeks of Mossad, especially considering that Charlie Kirk had started to shift in his position on Israel and declined Netanyahu’s personal invitation to “visit Israel.”

Moreover, one of his closest associates wrote that Charlie feared possibly being assassinated by Mossad.


I personally have no regard for Charlie Kirk. He stands for atrocities incompatible with civilization and has carried water for Israel’s genocide against the Palestinians until very recently. That is not where the weight lies – it is the message Israel is now sending to the United States. They are now not only willing to strike allied states but also key figures within MAGA to sow chaos between the already infected rivalry between liberals and conservatives in the U.S., and to silence the Epstein and pedophile scandal, literally through death threats. I would not be particularly surprised if this accelerates the release of the pedophile Ghislaine Maxwell.

Israel judged that the short-term advantage of provoking chaos in the U.S. outweighed the risks as long as they got Charlie Kirk out of the way and left Turning Point USA leaderless (to then install a more “suitable” candidate, preferably a pushover), while at the same time camouflaging their deed by throwing roses on his grave and pointing to “the Left” by leaving behind “evidence” fit only for a slapstick film, when the assassination has clearly been carried out by a professional and the bullet placed in the artery – something Israeli snipers have become notorious for in Gaza against countless children.

This assassination is also a message to others within the American right where opinion against Israel has soured, including Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. Several attacks will occur in the foreseeable future. Israel has estimated that Americans are cowards and will not dare to strike back at them regardless of provocations. The sitting president is moreover their plaything, a dying old man, who stands at the center of Epstein’s empire of kompromat.

“Say it was the Left who did it, or another bullet will come.”

Utterly despicable and disgusting behavior, though nothing new for Israel, who are also reasonably suspected of having murdered JFK. Disappointed to see comments where people lap up the pre-planted propaganda.

I just don't see Israel doing that. They very successfully influence the US through AIPAC etc. Killing a US citizen on US soil would be a big shift in how they operate, much riskier than what they've done so far, and offer too little of a reward. And it is "biting the hand that feeds them." I'm not buying it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 11:33:22 AM
You really are that dense, aren't you? This is exactly what I meant with you about having any common sense.

What about now retard? see what being stupid gets you?

Will you make another video making this situation all about yourself and villifying innocent folks because your a fucking bigot?

You look like a moron now. Well you always do.

Common sense isn't the same thing as good sense.

Thoughts and prayers for the dummies.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: US MUSL on September 12, 2025, 11:39:03 AM
Was the shooter wearing one of Coach"s t-shirts?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 11:41:56 AM
Was the shooter wearing one of Coach"s t-shirts?

I assume they only come in small as coach cant perceive that folks could be different from him.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 11:45:27 AM
I’m not wrong. I was pissed

i=UvaNLrLGz3mdlypP


My favorite part was when you said kamala couldn't string a sentence together and you bumbled and stuttered and couldn't recall the word sentence. The fucking irony!

You are patently wrong and yes you are pissed because you have a pea brain hahahahahah
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2025, 12:05:52 PM

My favorite part was when you said kamala couldn't string a sentence together and you bumbled and stuttered and couldn't recall the word sentence. The fucking irony!

You are patently wrong and yes you are pissed because you have a pea brain hahahahahah

You’re not helping yourself here
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 12, 2025, 12:14:57 PM
fucks sake watch this fucking idiocy
&rco=1
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 12:16:43 PM
You’re not helping yourself here

How so?

he was a groyper. Which makes sense since they hate charlie and have recently had spats with him over not debating fuentes etc..

Either way, you look like a fool
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 12, 2025, 12:26:00 PM
How so?

he was a groyper. Which makes sense since they hate charlie and have recently had spats with him over not debating fuentes etc..

Either way, you look like a fool

CNN put this out 4 hours ago saying he is Anti-Fascist.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/12/us/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-invs
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 12:47:12 PM
CNN put this out 4 hours ago saying he is Anti-Fascist.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/12/us/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-invs

ya he had several engravings, guy was a lunatic.

Wonder how someone can get to this point. From all accounts he was very bright and seemed to have a good family.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2025, 12:51:54 PM
https://x.com/thepatriotoasis/status/1966504971181949309?s=46
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2025, 12:53:17 PM
ya he had several engravings, guy was a lunatic.

Wonder how someone can get to this point. From all accounts he was very bright and seemed to have a good family.

.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2025, 12:54:26 PM
ya he had several engravings, guy was a lunatic.

Wonder how someone can get to this point. From all accounts he was very bright and seemed to have a good family.

It's not hard to understand why he got that point.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Dalnet on September 12, 2025, 12:58:35 PM
apparently the killer was a groyper

far right nationalist who followed nick fuentes and believed kirk was a fake coservative.


so is he now a goody or a baddy?

All sorts of different stuff is being said. There's so many screwed up nutjobs out there I wouldn't be surprised of anything. His Norwood and physique could fit in with either side
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 01:11:06 PM
.

Seen it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 12, 2025, 01:13:15 PM
This article talks about the poor security at the event.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yev470d59o
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: MAXX on September 12, 2025, 01:15:29 PM
Why did Kash Patel say "see you in Valhall"  in his speech ???

Kash Patel is indian(dot not feather). Kirk was devoted Christian.

Valhall is where warriors of Asatru/Paganism go for afterlife. Very few practice this belief, not even peoples where it originates in Norway/Sweden/Iceland
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Dalnet on September 12, 2025, 01:16:50 PM
This article talks about the poor security at the event.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yev470d59o

It was low on security but the guy was a moderate. Kirk was way mellow compared to the likes of Fuentes. I just dont get it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 12, 2025, 01:20:48 PM
hes hindu Patel

amazed that the USA would let a hindu have such a powerful position.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: MAXX on September 12, 2025, 01:32:04 PM
hes hindu Patel

amazed that the USA would let a hindu have such a powerful position.
So a hindu saying to a Christian "see you in Valhall"  ???

Very weird indeed

Is it just a saying in "right wing"/conservative circles?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 01:32:52 PM
Why did Kash Patel say "see you in Valhall"  in his speech ???

Kash Patel is indian(dot not feather). Kirk was devoted Christian.

Valhall is where warriors of Asatru/Paganism go for afterlife. Very few practice this belief, not even peoples where it originates in Norway/Sweden/Iceland

Dude is super weird and dorky

He is way out of his depth and it shows.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: IroNat on September 12, 2025, 01:35:01 PM
So a hindu saying to a Christian "see you in Valhall"  ???

Very weird indeed

Is it just a saying in "right wing"/conservative circles?

It's just a saying. 
Valhalla is a place warriors go.
Patel is calling Kirk a warrior.
He's calling himself one too.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 12, 2025, 01:36:58 PM
It's just a saying. 
Valhalla is a place warriors go.
Patel is calling Kirk a warrior.
He's calling himself one too.

Yes, it really is that simple.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 12, 2025, 01:38:27 PM
valhalla is entrenched in paganism


so a hindu said to a chrstian see you in the pagan afterlife.


the worlds on its fucking head
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 12, 2025, 01:40:10 PM
valhalla is entrenched in paganism


so a hindu said to a chrstian see you in the pagan afterlife.


the worlds on its fucking head

Valhalla is so Legendary that even Christians and Hindus want to go there

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2025, 01:42:26 PM
It's just a saying. 
Valhalla is a place warriors go.
Patel is calling Kirk a warrior.
He's calling himself one too.

Exactly
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: MAXX on September 12, 2025, 01:44:30 PM
It's just a saying. 
Valhalla is a place warriors go.
Patel is calling Kirk a warrior.
He's calling himself one too.
Kind of insulting to your own religion or Christians to refer to something in Asatru. It literally goes against one of the 10 commandments in Christianity.
"You shall have no other gods"
 
Because in essence he wishes him to go see the afterlife of the norse gods in Valhall, you know Thor, Odin, Loke, Freya nd whatever 150 other norse gods.

What happened to the gates of heaven and the all mighty Jesus Christ ???

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 12, 2025, 01:54:44 PM
in that case

alahu ackbar is just a saying!


a christian country having a hindu fella encouraging paganism.

just goes to show how liberal and politically woke donald is. that and his refusal to build the wall perhaps he isnt that bad.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2025, 01:55:56 PM

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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: IroNat on September 12, 2025, 02:01:03 PM
Is Kash Patel a member of the Patel Motel Cartel?

https://indiandiaspora.org/news/untold-story-patels-who-built-americas-motel-empire

(http://indianyug.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/22The-Patel-Motel-Cartel-Indian-Americans-Dominance-in-the-U.S.-Hospitality-Industry22.jpg)

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: GymnJuice on September 12, 2025, 02:06:08 PM
Is Kash Patel a member of the Patel Motel Cartel?

https://indiandiaspora.org/news/untold-story-patels-who-built-americas-motel-empire

(http://indianyug.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/22The-Patel-Motel-Cartel-Indian-Americans-Dominance-in-the-U.S.-Hospitality-Industry22.jpg)

Hotel, motel, Valhalla Inn...
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 12, 2025, 06:32:01 PM
It's just a saying. 
Valhalla is a place warriors go.
Patel is calling Kirk a warrior.
He's calling himself one too.
Neither of them will go to Valhalla. I know it's just a way of saying "see you on the other side"
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2025, 09:00:51 PM
https://x.com/jessebwatters/status/1966668158619582821?s=46
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Beefjake on September 12, 2025, 11:04:47 PM
Kind of insulting to your own religion or Christians to refer to something in Asatru. It literally goes against one of the 10 commandments in Christianity.
"You shall have no other gods"

Oh come on. Who in their right mind thinks like that all the time?
Valhalla is a thing in popular culture. With Marvel movies more than ever.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 13, 2025, 02:36:15 AM

My favorite part was when you said kamala couldn't string a sentence together and you bumbled and stuttered and couldn't recall the word sentence. The fucking irony!

You are patently wrong and yes you are pissed because you have a pea brain hahahahahah

I've watched both videos

Coach has an above average IQ actually
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 13, 2025, 02:38:42 AM
Imagine being an anti sniper and icing this shitstain before he fired
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: YeahBranch on September 13, 2025, 03:14:43 AM
Imagine being an anti sniper and icing this shitstain before he fired
(http://)

I think you mean anti-hero.


Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 13, 2025, 03:21:06 AM
Imagine being an anti sniper and icing this shitstain before he fired

Chief, imagine you're an anti-sniper defending the vast grasslands of the Savanna when you spot this POS preparing to shoot a playful little lion cub and his mother. You crawl forward with the stealth and poise of one of these beautiful creatures and get yourself into a good firing position. You literally have seconds to make the shot.

He's in your crosshairs, and you see him begin to squeeze the trigger on his own rifle. You notice that Joswift is also laying right next to him, whispering vicious rumors about you into his ear. You can take them both out with one shot. There's just one problem: The Scott has just charged up the hill and jumped in front of them to spread the good word of the Nazarene!! You're in a real pickle here. To save the lion cub, kill the sniper and put an end to Joswift's foul gossip, you're going to have to sacrifice The Scott. What do you do?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 13, 2025, 03:25:10 AM
Chief, imagine you're an anti-sniper defending the vast grasslands of the Savanna when you spot this POS preparing to shoot a playful little lion cub and his mother. You crawl forward with the stealth and poise of one of these beautiful creatures and get yourself into a good firing position. You literally have seconds to make the shot.

He's in your crosshairs, and you see him begin to squeeze the trigger on his own rifle. You notice that Joswift is also laying right next to him, whispering vicious rumors about you into his ear. You can take them both out with one shot. There's just one problem: The Scott has just charged up the hill and jumped in front of them to spread the good word of the Nazarene!! You're in a real pickle here. To save the lion cub, kill the sniper and put an end to Joswift's foul gossip, you're going to have to sacrifice The Scott. What do you do?

pass the gun to Uberman who will put dj out of his misery
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 13, 2025, 04:08:29 AM
Chief, imagine you're an anti-sniper defending the vast grasslands of the Savanna when you spot this POS preparing to shoot a playful little lion cub and his mother. You crawl forward with the stealth and poise of one of these beautiful creatures and get yourself into a good firing position. You literally have seconds to make the shot.

He's in your crosshairs, and you see him begin to squeeze the trigger on his own rifle. You notice that Joswift is also laying right next to him, whispering vicious rumors about you into his ear. You can take them both out with one shot. There's just one problem: The Scott has just charged up the hill and jumped in front of them to spread the good word of the Nazarene!! You're in a real pickle here. To save the lion cub, kill the sniper and put an end to Joswift's foul gossip, you're going to have to sacrifice The Scott. What do you do?


 ;D

Lovely work!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 13, 2025, 04:56:49 AM
Chief, imagine you're an anti-sniper defending the vast grasslands of the Savanna when you spot this POS preparing to shoot a playful little lion cub and his mother. You crawl forward with the stealth and poise of one of these beautiful creatures and get yourself into a good firing position. You literally have seconds to make the shot.

He's in your crosshairs, and you see him begin to squeeze the trigger on his own rifle. You notice that Joswift is also laying right next to him, whispering vicious rumors about you into his ear. You can take them both out with one shot. There's just one problem: The Scott has just charged up the hill and jumped in front of them to spread the good word of the Nazarene!! You're in a real pickle here. To save the lion cub, kill the sniper and put an end to Joswift's foul gossip, you're going to have to sacrifice The Scott. What do you do?

That's a very nice vision you made there

Ima use that for.my psych up on deltz here in a few

Just did tris and reps and weight went up💪💪💪
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: youandme on September 13, 2025, 05:04:55 AM
was super weird when Patel said see you in valhalla. Governor talking about getting back to Christian roots and Kirk was a big Christian and then he ends with that. Should have just said something a bit more in the context of faith in the realm of religion not pagan folklore. Came off like a high schooler.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 13, 2025, 05:32:10 AM
Patel is just a neurotically weirdo in the first place.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: jr on September 13, 2025, 05:38:22 AM
wow



Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 13, 2025, 05:43:59 AM
wow



They were hoping he got shot by a triggered leftist antifa type so they could make a martyr out of him.  Once they realized the shooter was a terminally online white kid with no clear political ideology, poor Charlie Kirk became small and useless to them
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 13, 2025, 05:55:15 AM
all these people on FB talking about how they are 'defriending' people for how they responding....geezus, its like posting about leaving GB.  Just fucking do it and STFU.  Both "sides" are a bunch of attention whores.

Now the new buzz word is the use of "evil".  Worse than DJ and his 'cheque drops'.  I wouldn't be surprised if people started talking like they were in a Shakespeare play at some point.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 13, 2025, 06:04:29 AM
They were hoping he got shot by a triggered leftist antifa type so they could make a martyr out of him.  Once they realized the shooter was a terminally online white kid with no clear political ideology, poor Charlie Kirk became small and useless to them

I stand by my original statement like I already said.

If you have proof against CNN saying he was Anti-Fascist (Leftist) post it up.



Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 13, 2025, 06:35:18 AM
I stand by my original statement like I already said.

If you have proof against CNN saying he was Anti-Fascist (Leftist) post it up.

Sorry, I don’t keep up with your posts.  I’m not sure what your original statement is.  And who gives a shit about CNN or any other mass media source?  I’m sure they had spread plenty of lies and propaganda in the wake of this event, just like they always do.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 13, 2025, 06:50:12 AM
Leftist who was the last one to speak to Charley was telling him that leftists are peaceful.

It seems we are closer to officially debunking this statement.


https://share.newsbreak.com/ez5k22r5?s=i16

They definitely aren’t all dangerous people, but the posts on the internet show there are many who are deranged. I’ve also seen a lot whose statements are similar to Bernie Sanders though too.

The % of people cheering and making inappropriate comments points to mental illness and susceptibility to propaganda.

Overall it is time to make people answer for their outrageous statements publicly.
I see MANY people have begun to get fired from jobs and this trend could continue.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 13, 2025, 06:53:14 AM
Leftist who was the last one to speak to Charley was telling him that leftists are peaceful.

It seems we are closer to officially debunking this statement.


https://share.newsbreak.com/ez5k22r5?s=i16

They definitely aren’t all dangerous people, but the posts on the internet show there are many who are deranged. I’ve also seen a lot whose statements are similar to Bernie Sanders though too.

The % of people cheering and making inappropriate comments points to mental illness and susceptibility to propaganda.

Overall it is time to make people answer for their outrageous statements publicly.
I see MANY people have begun to get fired from jobs and this trend could continue.

Wasn’t Charlie Kirk a free speech advocate?  Seems like targeting people for their statements runs counter to the values he promoted, no?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 13, 2025, 07:01:32 AM
Leftist who was the last one to speak to Charley was telling him that leftists are peaceful.

It seems we are closer to officially debunking this statement.


https://share.newsbreak.com/ez5k22r5?s=i16

They definitely aren’t all dangerous people, but the posts on the internet show there are many who are deranged. I’ve also seen a lot whose statements are similar to Bernie Sanders though too.

The % of people cheering and making inappropriate comments points to mental illness and susceptibility to propaganda.

Overall it is time to make people answer for their outrageous statements publicly.
I see MANY people have begun to get fired from jobs and this trend could continue.

Every bit of evidence in the world says the opposite of what you are saying. It's very possible you could be in an echo chamber.

Your article, which is literally the only piece of "evidence" was fabricated, how does that make you feel?

A recent survey of tweets on X showed that right wing violent rhetoric was by far the vast majority when compared to leftist violent tweets.

Either way, last response to you as you are clearly not interested in facts. Post another false article when you have time if you wouldn't mind.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2025, 07:42:06 AM



Fella debating CHarlie when he was shot comes out with a statement to Negrosis and Coach
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2025, 08:10:57 AM
Sorry, I don’t keep up with your posts.  I’m not sure what your original statement is.  And who gives a shit about CNN or any other mass media source?  I’m sure they had spread plenty of lies and propaganda in the wake of this event, just like they always do.

.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2025, 08:51:33 AM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=676703.0;attach=1571608;image)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2025, 08:54:40 AM
Coloreds Five Cents (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=24576007672030026&__cft__[0)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2025, 08:58:28 AM
Fired from his job (https://www.facebook.com/reel/1452054486241114)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: unwieldy on September 13, 2025, 09:03:01 AM
Who is this charlie anyway  ???
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2025, 09:11:48 AM
Got Fired from his TikTok (https://www.facebook.com/reel/2275008709609259)

LOL This thing aborted two children? (https://www.facebook.com/reel/714965211582849)

"We Got Charlie in the Neck!"-chant (https://www.facebook.com/reel/1499013034446108)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: unwieldy on September 13, 2025, 09:13:31 AM
Got Fired from his TikTok (https://www.facebook.com/reel/2275008709609259)

LOL This thing aborted two children? (https://www.facebook.com/reel/714965211582849)
Fake and gay
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2025, 09:14:26 AM
Who is this charlie anyway  ???

"We Got Charlie in the Neck!"-chant (https://www.facebook.com/reel/1499013034446108)

The Perpetual King of Kangz
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 13, 2025, 09:15:49 AM
genuine question to coach

you said you would double down on whoever was responsible for this

are you taking up arms against groypers and fuentes?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: unwieldy on September 13, 2025, 09:18:12 AM
"We Got Charlie in the Neck!"-chant (https://www.facebook.com/reel/1499013034446108)

The Perpetual King of Kangz
never heard of him. Seems like another psyop current thing
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 13, 2025, 09:24:50 AM
.

Wait did you post this after this article was revised to remove the quotes because the source was full of shit? LOLOLOL.

Man you are the gift that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2025, 09:29:41 AM

My favorite part was when you said kamala couldn't string a sentence together and you bumbled and stuttered and couldn't recall the word sentence. The fucking irony!

You are patently wrong and yes you are pissed because you have a pea brain hahahahahah

It’s over

https://x.com/saveamericanew/status/1966656007184032112?s=46
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2025, 09:34:10 AM
Wait did you post this after this article was revised to remove the quotes because the source was full of shit? LOLOLOL.

Man you are the gift that keeps on giving.

You have literally been wrong on everything and it’s not even close…this also debunks your stupid “groype” conspiracy theory
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 13, 2025, 09:49:40 AM
You have literally been wrong on everything and it’s not even close…this also debunks your stupid “groype” conspiracy theory

You posted an article that was found to be bunk.

You are hilarious.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2025, 09:53:48 AM
You posted an article that was found to be bunk.

You are hilarious.

You need reevaluate your political and medical sources. If I didn’t know better I’d say you’re Lurker Lite
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2025, 09:57:37 AM
Charlie Kirk Assassin Tyler Robinson Lived with his Transgender Partner – Partner is Cooperating with FBI

Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner – a male to female trans.

The transgender partner is cooperating with the FBI.

The FBI used Robinson’s texts with his transgender partner to solidify Robinson was the assassin.

Per Fox News reporter Brooke Singman: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.

The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.

Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.

Tyler Robinson was arrested on suspicion of capital murder, felony discharge of a weapon causing serious bodily injury, and obstruction of justice, according to the probable cause affidavit.


22-year-old Robinson was arrested on Friday morning and booked on state charges; federal charges will likely be filed later.

A family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff’s Office with information that Robinson had confessed to the murder.

Robinson’s father, a veteran police officer, confronted him after Utah authorities released new photos of the suspect on Thursday.

BREAKING…


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/breaking-charlie-kirk-assassin-tyler-robinson-lived-his/
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 13, 2025, 10:09:00 AM
I love this dude

He really speaks the truth

This vid is spot on

Kwon I recommend you watch the first 10 minutes of it

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Dave D on September 13, 2025, 10:09:18 AM
Charlie Kirk Assassin Tyler Robinson Lived with his Transgender Partner – Partner is Cooperating with FBI

Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner – a male to female trans.

The transgender partner is cooperating with the FBI.

The FBI used Robinson’s texts with his transgender partner to solidify Robinson was the assassin.

Per Fox News reporter Brooke Singman: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.

The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.

Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.

Tyler Robinson was arrested on suspicion of capital murder, felony discharge of a weapon causing serious bodily injury, and obstruction of justice, according to the probable cause affidavit.


22-year-old Robinson was arrested on Friday morning and booked on state charges; federal charges will likely be filed later.

A family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff’s Office with information that Robinson had confessed to the murder.

Robinson’s father, a veteran police officer, confronted him after Utah authorities released new photos of the suspect on Thursday.

BREAKING…


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/breaking-charlie-kirk-assassin-tyler-robinson-lived-his/

This kid is obviously embracing far right ideology. He was showing compassion to the confused transgender person.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 13, 2025, 10:11:18 AM
Charlie Kirk Assassin Tyler Robinson Lived with his Transgender Partner – Partner is Cooperating with FBI

Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner – a male to female trans.

The transgender partner is cooperating with the FBI.

The FBI used Robinson’s texts with his transgender partner to solidify Robinson was the assassin.

Per Fox News reporter Brooke Singman: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.

The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.

Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.

Tyler Robinson was arrested on suspicion of capital murder, felony discharge of a weapon causing serious bodily injury, and obstruction of justice, according to the probable cause affidavit.


22-year-old Robinson was arrested on Friday morning and booked on state charges; federal charges will likely be filed later.

A family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff’s Office with information that Robinson had confessed to the murder.

Robinson’s father, a veteran police officer, confronted him after Utah authorities released new photos of the suspect on Thursday.

BREAKING…


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/breaking-charlie-kirk-assassin-tyler-robinson-lived-his/

Douglas just said to never ever trust the FBI

Watch the vid I just posted

He also say the USA does not have democratic elections

Its bought off by the deep state ie. Zuckerberg, Soros etc
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: AbrahamG on September 13, 2025, 10:33:52 AM
Killed by a Nick Fuentes supporter. That kooky Nick Fuentes and his radical  left army of supporters.  😂
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2025, 10:38:13 AM
genuine question to coach

you said you would double down on whoever was responsible for this

are you taking up arms against groypers and fuentes?

You realize that was debunked, right?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2025, 10:42:53 AM
Douglas just said to never ever trust the FBI


Who?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 13, 2025, 10:46:42 AM
Who?

hes lost mate... you are trying to converse with a mentally ill person
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2025, 10:59:52 AM
hes lost mate... you are trying to converse with a mentally ill person

Who is the Douglas character doug181 is talking about?

Someone who is charging 20 bucks on Onlyfans for helicoptering his limp noodle?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 13, 2025, 11:02:56 AM
Who is the Douglas character doug181 is talking about?

Someone who is charging 20 bucks on Onlyfans for helicoptering his limp noodle?
DJ is Douglas. hes fucked in the head, you would be better off ignoring him
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 13, 2025, 11:03:26 AM
Who is the Douglas character doug181 is talking about?

Someone who is charging 20 bucks on Onlyfans for helicoptering his limp noodle?

Watch the video dummy

The first 10 minutes are right up your alley

They talk about your fav race of people
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 13, 2025, 11:05:03 AM
Yes this is me

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 13, 2025, 01:31:56 PM
Another great video from a guy that I love

Awesome video in fact

I hope he is right

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: unwieldy on September 13, 2025, 01:34:59 PM
Another great video from a guy that I love

Awesome video in fact

I hope he is right


who the fuck is this charlie guy??????
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 13, 2025, 01:45:15 PM
Another great video from a guy that I love

Awesome video in fact

I hope he is right





duggie

i thought you hated shitsa as you call it


you arent allowed to live there

worry about moldova
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 13, 2025, 01:56:08 PM


duggie

i thought you hated shitsa as you call it


you arent allowed to live there

worry about moldova

Are you claiming that I fled the USA because of a legal problem?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 13, 2025, 02:05:27 PM
Are you claiming that I fled the USA because of a legal problem?

Seems to be the only thing that makes sense, otherwise why would you remain broke in a shithole country where you have no bank account or job (or legal right to work I'd think) or even speak the language?  Just claiming you hate it doesn't cut it or make sense, there's so many different places and regions in the US even if your relatives hate you in Columbus.  There's something you're running from clearly.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 13, 2025, 02:23:22 PM
Seems to be the only thing that makes sense, otherwise why would you remain broke in a shithole country where you have no bank account or job (or legal right to work I'd think) or even speak the language?  Just claiming you hate it doesn't cut it or make sense, there's so many different places and regions in the US even if your relatives hate you in Columbus.  There's something you're running from clearly.

So you are you claiming I’m running from legal trouble in the shitsa right?

Ok so if that's true how come I was allowed back into the country in 2021?

Look I just don't want to live there I do not like being there and I prefer being here life is simpler and less dramatic

As I have said before if someone gives me a place to live in Maui and pays my cost of living I will live there no problem

But I wont live there if I have to pay my own way

Eastern Europe is much less expensive to live in and that's the only reason why I live here

If I could actually make money being an online trainer like 5 grand a month I would think about relocating to Maui but that's the only place if would go to

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2025, 02:37:21 PM
Watch the video dummy

The first 10 minutes are right up your alley

They talk about your fav race of people

What video? Link me to the video you are speaking of where Dougray Scott is talking
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 13, 2025, 02:49:57 PM
Are you claiming that I fled the USA because of a legal problem?

im on ignore remember

i am saying i do not believe someone who claims to be a christian but takes pleasure in sodomising 18 year old girls when in his 50's.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 13, 2025, 03:35:00 PM
So you are you claiming I’m running from legal trouble in the shitsa right?

Ok so if that's true how come I was allowed back into the country in 2021?

Look I just don't want to live there I do not like being there and I prefer being here life is simpler and less dramatic

As I have said before if someone gives me a place to live in Maui and pays my cost of living I will live there no problem

But I wont live there if I have to pay my own way

Eastern Europe is much less expensive to live in and that's the only reason why I live here

If I could actually make money being an online trainer like 5 grand a month I would think about relocating to Maui but that's the only place if would go to


you lazy workshy hypocritical fake Christian bullshit artist.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 13, 2025, 03:40:42 PM

you lazy workshy hypocritical fake Christian bullshit artist.
hes been eating up hankins posts for months, now hes spewing the same shite

Maui?

he hadnt heard of Maui until Hankins brought it up
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Dave D on September 13, 2025, 03:59:39 PM
hes been eating up hankins posts for months, now hes spewing the same shite

Maui?

he hadnt heard of Maui until Hankins brought it up

Yup.

Soon it will be  kittyhawk North Carolina.  He’s playing the ultimate heel.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 13, 2025, 04:03:19 PM
Yup.

Soon it will be  kittyhawk North Carolina.  He’s playing the ultimate heel.

I can see him in the WWE as “Delicate Doug” and he cries when people “slander” him.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 13, 2025, 04:09:31 PM
Also taking over and ruining threads for attention same as Hankins. Poor man’s Hankins.

Very very poor that’s why he lives in Eastern European shithole.

3 small potatoes of peace. Potatoes much cheaper in Moldova.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 13, 2025, 04:16:58 PM
surely

'Desist Douglas'
you fcuk with me
I will writ your ass
Provided my mum sends me the money
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 13, 2025, 04:28:01 PM
So you are you claiming I’m running from legal trouble in the shitsa right?

Ok so if that's true how come I was allowed back into the country in 2021?

Look I just don't want to live there I do not like being there and I prefer being here life is simpler and less dramatic


As I have said before if someone gives me a place to live in Maui and pays my cost of living I will live there no problem

But I wont live there if I have to pay my own way

Eastern Europe is much less expensive to live in and that's the only reason why I live here

If I could actually make money being an online trainer like 5 grand a month I would think about relocating to Maui but that's the only place if would go to

No way he came back to the US in 2021 and then went back to the shitholes.  Maybe Semhanktics?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 13, 2025, 04:31:09 PM
he will have applied to reenter and not been stopped form getting a ticket

there is stuff that doesnt add up

as i said a christian aged 56 who fantasises about sodomising 18 year old  teenage girls is not to be trusted.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 13, 2025, 08:18:41 PM
he will have applied to reenter and not been stopped form getting a ticket

there is stuff that doesnt add up

as i said a christian aged 56 who fantasises about sodomising 18 year old  teenage girls is not to be trusted.

From how he talks, I've thought he was long gone from the USA for 10-20 years but the possibility he was here in 2021 is interesting.  Puts a lot of stuff on the table as to why he might now be on the lam.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2025, 11:19:11 PM
Needs to be heard whether you agree with it or not


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOg55KsDzlG/?igsh=MTY3amt6bmcwYzk0cA==
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: unwieldy on September 14, 2025, 12:56:28 AM
Until now I have no clue who is this charlie guy and I am not going to google it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 14, 2025, 02:20:51 AM
Until now I have no clue who is this charlie guy and I am not going to google it.

I tend to post in threads when I have no idea what the subject matter is  ::)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 14, 2025, 02:38:30 AM
What video? Link me to the video you are speaking of where Dougray Scott is talking

Im not linking again you can find it on here
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 14, 2025, 02:42:46 AM
And for.the record I was in Maui with my mom and aunt after I graduated high school

Moms grad gift

I suppose you fucks want me to post pics to prove it

Great fuckong tune

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: unwieldy on September 14, 2025, 04:08:07 AM
I tend to post in threads when I have no idea what the subject matter is  ::)
Yes I noticed that
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 14, 2025, 04:23:13 AM
And for.the record I was in Maui with my mom and aunt after I graduated high school

Moms grad gift

I suppose you fucks want me to post pics to prove it

Great fuckong tune




so you graduated and mummy took you on hliday as you had no friends to go with.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Necrosis on September 14, 2025, 10:10:06 AM
Reuters said he lived with his parents, has there been any confirmation of this beyond the chick who has been caught fabricating multiple stories before? like outright lies around firings and 2 folks who got charged with lying to the FBI.

Other rupert murdoch outlets ran the story with her as the source. The media is ridiculous.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 14, 2025, 10:16:57 AM
I guess Van’s whole theory of Charlie has been wrong.

He is owning people from the grave now.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CRSrUkgHJ/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 14, 2025, 10:18:02 AM
Give it up. It’s reported everywhere now who he lived with and confirmed by the governor of Utah. Leftist lies you guys are pushing are longer working.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 14, 2025, 10:22:10 AM
Reuters said he lived with his parents, has there been any confirmation of this beyond the chick who has been caught fabricating multiple stories before? like outright lies around firings and 2 folks who got charged with lying to the FBI.

Other rupert murdoch outlets ran the story with her as the source. The media is ridiculous.

MacGregor says do not believe anything that comes out of the FBI's mouth

He also.said the deep state are the elections and shitsa is in no way a democracy

Watch the vid I posted
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 14, 2025, 10:28:26 AM

It’s happening….

TPUSA just reported that they have received over 32,000 inquiries in 48 hours to start NEW Campus chapters

Currently:

- TPUSA has 900 College Chapters

- TPUSA has 1,200 High School Chapters

https://x.com/magavoice/status/1967121380551651488?s=46
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 14, 2025, 11:21:59 AM
It’s happening….

TPUSA just reported that they have received over 32,000 inquiries in 48 hours to start NEW Campus chapters

Currently:

- TPUSA has 900 College Chapters

- TPUSA has 1,200 High School Chapters

https://x.com/magavoice/status/1967121380551651488?s=46

That's some good news

Glad to hear it

Fight evil with good
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: BB on September 14, 2025, 11:54:58 AM
Assassinated over one man's love of bussy. A very 2020's way to go :-\.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 14, 2025, 12:44:02 PM
Assassinated over one man's love of bussy. A very 2020's way to go :-\.

BERBETUAL BUSSY OF BEACE!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 14, 2025, 01:22:02 PM
The left doesn’t like the Kirk memorials.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19UwA88E85/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 14, 2025, 01:25:45 PM
he will have applied to reenter and not been stopped form getting a ticket

there is stuff that doesnt add up

as i said a christian aged 56 who fantasises about sodomising 18 year old  teenage girls is not to be trusted.
Who are you talking about?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 14, 2025, 01:31:51 PM
The left doesn’t like the Kirk memorials.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19UwA88E85/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Satan and his spawns are losing. They hate that
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 14, 2025, 01:34:01 PM
Who are you talking about?

dj181
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 14, 2025, 01:35:18 PM
The left doesn’t like the Kirk memorials.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19UwA88E85/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Fuck them

Its none of their fucking business
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Titus Pullo on September 14, 2025, 02:01:58 PM
MacGregor says do not believe anything that comes out of the FBI's mouth

Who?

The fighter?  LOL.

Go to Wikipedia and look for Argument from Authority, aka Appeal to Authority, aka argumentum ad verecundiam.

If a qualified expert in a given field -- say, an astrophysicist named Dave -- tells us "Comet Asshole is going to hit Earth in 2035," that's cool.  I'll hear him out, though I would seek out other astrophysicists' take on Comet Asshole.

Citing Dave as a source isn't illogical.  He IS an expert insofar as comets potentially fucking us up are concerned.

If I understand who you mean by MacGregor, it sounds like he's taken too many shots to the head and, as a result, I don't believe him.

(Hint, Doug:  I didn't fully mean that last bit.  Even IF the dude was punchy, to say he's wrong on that basis is another fallacy -- specifically, the Ad Hominem.  Even drunks, morons, and broken clocks can tell the right time on occasion :).)

I object because, while I fully agree to not blindly accept anything from my government prima facie, I don't accept the premise that the U.S, government, or its FBI, is purely spewing bullshit on the basis of MaCGregor's claim.

He can do better...

Quote
He also.said the deep state are the elections and shitsa is in no way a democracy

Watch the vid I posted

I don't care what he said.  Where are his qualifications on the matter?

Barring that, where are his arguments? 

I can shout slogans off rooftops all day, but sans the wherewithal to back those up, I am an idiot.  As Shakespeare said: 

Life's but a walking shadow.  That struts and frets his hour upon the stage.  And then nothing is heard no more.  It is a rale told by an Idiot, full of sound and fury.  Signifying nothing.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 14, 2025, 02:10:24 PM
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 14, 2025, 02:19:53 PM
I love this dude

He really speaks the truth

This vid is spot on

Kwon I recommend you watch the first 10 minutes of it



Here is the vid Titus

Douglas is brilliant.and he unlocks.the goddaamn truth

Fuck yeah
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 14, 2025, 02:21:59 PM


Yep yep

Pure demonic evil was at work here

FACT
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 14, 2025, 02:52:36 PM
The media is ridiculous.
We can agree on this.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 14, 2025, 03:02:51 PM
Fights break out at Charlie Kirk-vigils

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 14, 2025, 03:08:49 PM
I love this dude

He really speaks the truth

This vid is spot on

Kwon I recommend you watch the first 10 minutes of it



Thanks
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Dokey111 on September 14, 2025, 03:12:30 PM
Fuck them

Its none of their fucking business

oh it is definitely their "business"
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 14, 2025, 08:39:35 PM
Why is the guy on the surveillance camera clearly not right guy?

https://www.facebook.com/share/17H6R2gibn/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Mothballs on September 14, 2025, 10:44:30 PM
Why is the guy on the surveillance camera clearly not right guy?

https://www.facebook.com/share/17H6R2gibn/?mibextid=wwXIfr
The photo pictured there is not an actual photo from the surveillance footage. Someone took the surveillance still and plugged it into AI and prompted AI to create a clearer photo but AI just made up the facial features to fill in the blanks. Cmon, in what world have you ever seen a surveillance image as crystal clear as the photo you're posting.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 15, 2025, 05:39:14 AM
Here’s Michael Savage asking how the hell Tyler jumped off the roof with the gun.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1GaYTJddBZ/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 15, 2025, 05:43:39 AM
This was a murder by the deep state plain and simple

Don't believe a fuckkng word the.FBI says

Douglas is right
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 15, 2025, 05:51:58 AM
Here’s Michael Savage asking how the hell Tyler jumped off the roof with the gun.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1GaYTJddBZ/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Jeezus Michael Savage is still going?  Obviously needs attention.  They need to give Lib fools a reason to doubt now that the guy's been shown to be fucking a trans furry.  The baseless leftist MSM lies trying to push groyper or Maga weren't working on the Facebook fools, so now they move to "got the wrong guy".
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 15, 2025, 06:13:22 AM
Why is the guy on the surveillance camera clearly not right guy?

https://www.facebook.com/share/17H6R2gibn/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Just listened to this and this fella is spot fucking on

You will know the truth and the truth will set you free
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 15, 2025, 06:35:43 AM
How does DJ do wide grip chins?  He was kicked out of his gym and it costs $30 a day he doesn't have to go to the fancy gym near him.  The dips are also unexplained for The Shape.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 15, 2025, 07:24:02 AM
This gorgeous beauty is right

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 15, 2025, 07:30:46 AM
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Flexacon on September 15, 2025, 07:55:47 AM


The interviewer Mario Nawfal is a c4nt. Tried to extort money from me (well his team did)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 15, 2025, 10:29:37 AM
Moving my post to the other thread.

With this killing unlike other shootings we know this one was real.

The others one are often suspect as they have no video.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 15, 2025, 01:53:46 PM
Funny how all of these conspiracy theories come out after he got killed but not even a whisper before. Candace Owens disregarded by most conservatives about a year or so ago when she decided to flip the script. She's gone the way of Ann Coulter and has all but become irrelevant.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 15, 2025, 01:56:43 PM
Who is this charlie anyway  ???

he was an influencer
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 15, 2025, 02:02:54 PM
he was an influencer

It seems many in our time haven't fully grasped the enormity of what being an influencer is.
In essence, Charlie Kirk was like a Junior President of the USA, based on the response.




Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 15, 2025, 02:16:52 PM
he was an influencer

Is that all you think he was?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: beakdoctor on September 15, 2025, 02:26:27 PM
Funny how all of these conspiracy theories come out after he got killed but not even a whisper before. Candace Owens disregarded by most conservatives about a year or so ago when she decided to flip the script. She's gone the way of Ann Coulter and has all but become irrelevant.

I follow some conservative pundits - not too closely maybe once or twice a month while scrolling ill stop on someonelike Candace or Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk (rip) and watch them own the fuck outta someone. Or I hear them on talk radio and listenfor a minuteor two. But Ive come to realize that no matter how angry I get, or upset, or happy about some brilliantpoint they made that sum's up the insanityof the left, my feelings don'tmake a bit of difference and usually the topics just leave me feeling frustrated that no one in power is following up on the points they make

I always liked Candace but at this point Im just a 'casual' in the world of politics.

Anyway- how did she flip the script?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 15, 2025, 03:02:48 PM
both sides debate well

kirk was a very good debater

as is this fella

be interested in opinions if anyone will watch it

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 15, 2025, 03:10:38 PM
Is that all you think he was?

Mr  Coach
opinions are like assholes  everybody has one but most are best not shown
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 16, 2025, 02:00:51 AM
I know it's rage bait... but these people celebrating online are demonic, pure evil, just look at how the guys tongue moves when he laughs, some unnatural shit.  The women so smug and laughing hysterically like a fucking witch. I pity these spiteful leftist mutants.   

https://x.com/onebaddude_/status/1967305387792875658?s=46

https://x.com/1amerpatmrs/status/1967343523784806433?s=46
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 16, 2025, 04:10:27 AM
both sides debate well

kirk was a very good debater

as is this fella

be interested in opinions if anyone will watch it



he was laughing about Kirks death with Ilhan Omar
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 16, 2025, 04:15:08 AM
The interviewer Mario Nawfal is a c4nt. Tried to extort money from me (well his team did)

!!!


WHY!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 16, 2025, 04:40:27 AM
I know it's rage bait... but these people celebrating online are demonic, pure evil, just look at how the guys tongue moves when he laughs, some unnatural shit.  The women so smug and laughing hysterically like a fucking witch. I pity these spiteful leftist mutants.   

https://x.com/onebaddude_/status/1967305387792875658?s=46

https://x.com/1amerpatmrs/status/1967343523784806433?s=46

It sure is demonic

You are spot on

Would enjoy having them in the sights of my m14 😉
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 16, 2025, 04:55:50 AM
It sure is demonic

You are spot on

Would enjoy having them in the sights of my m14 😉

you dont have an M14 and have never shot anyone in your life. absolute fantasist.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 16, 2025, 05:31:19 AM
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 16, 2025, 05:37:47 AM
∆∆∆ demonic shit right there

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 16, 2025, 06:10:45 AM
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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: King Shizzo on September 16, 2025, 07:30:33 AM
.
So we get autistic tranny death cults before GTA 6
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 16, 2025, 11:01:56 AM



Was Charlie Kirk truly an advocate of free speech?

Just explain what foreign news story you're responding to.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 16, 2025, 11:06:24 AM
Just explain what foreign news story you're responding to.

I know he had that reputation

I am sorry that you feel unable to answer the question
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 16, 2025, 11:38:52 AM
I know he had that reputation

I am sorry that you feel unable to answer the question

It feels like bait.

But, yes, he was.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 16, 2025, 11:46:37 AM
I know he had that reputation

I am sorry that you feel unable to answer the question

I'd be willing to bet that you didn't know much of him until this happened. Am I right?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 16, 2025, 11:49:47 AM
It feels like bait.

But, yes, he was.

Only you can control your feelings

While I can understand the anger and out rage it seems some of his many of his grieving followers do not understand or respect his advocacy of free speech.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 16, 2025, 11:52:15 AM
Only you can control your feelings

While I can understand the anger and out rage it seems some of his many of his grieving followers do not understand or respect his advocacy of free speech.

It’s mostly private companies firing these people.

They are allowed free speech and also to be fired for being jackasses.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 16, 2025, 11:52:47 AM
I'd be willing to bet that you didn't know much of him until this happened. Am I right?

I did know quiet a bit about him but I was never  as star struck about him as you seem to be
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 16, 2025, 12:00:19 PM
I did know quiet a bit about him but I was never  as star struck about him as you seem to be

No one is "star struck". If you knew 'quite a bit" about him as you claim, you would understand his and TPUSA's impact on changing the political landscape with the youth.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: GymnJuice on September 16, 2025, 12:01:05 PM
It’s mostly private companies firing these people.

They are allowed free speech and also to be fired for being jackasses.

That is my understanding as well. The free speech mostly means you don't get arrested for your personal thoughts about events, politics, or whatever. It doesn't keep your private company employer from firing you.

I am a big supporter of free speech BTW. Even if someone wants to be a jackass about the Kirk thing and say he deserved to die or was a scumbag or whatever else. It is their right to say it. It is also their employers right to fire them. But they should not be arrested for saying it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 16, 2025, 01:59:59 PM
Governments often pressure private companies to censor certain speech, as even Zuckerberg will attest to, e.g. the Hunter laptop. And sometimes what is private and what is government is murky as governments contract out so many things. So many things are private that companies can theoretically lock you in your house preventing you from using what most would consider public squares. They can and will shut you out of all banking. Travel. And et cetera.

The Fuentes guy is on a no fly list for reasons unknown, no charges brought, shut out of most banking too.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 16, 2025, 02:04:00 PM
Only you can control your feelings

While I can understand the anger and out rage it seems some of his many of his grieving followers do not understand or respect his advocacy of free speech.

Free speech does not mean speech without consequence.

There's a difference.

But instead of asking a question hoping it would lead to your point, why not just make your point first instead?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: GymnJuice on September 16, 2025, 02:43:35 PM
Governments often pressure private companies to censor certain speech, as even Zuckerberg will attest to, e.g. the Hunter laptop. And sometimes what is private and what is government is murky as governments contract out so many things. So many things are private that companies can theoretically lock you in your house preventing you from using what most would consider public squares. They can and will shut you out of all banking. Travel. And et cetera.

The Fuentes guy is on a no fly list for reasons unknown, no charges brought, shut out of most banking too.

You're right. Both sides just pay lip service to free speech. Most would eagerly censor anything that suits their agenda. Only a handful stay true to their principles over party loyalty. The US would be so much better off with a viable third party.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 16, 2025, 02:48:25 PM
Free speech does not mean speech without consequence.

There's a difference.

But instead of asking a question hoping it would lead to your point, why not just make your point first instead?

if it bothers you so move on
you sound like a spinster teacher   Miss Brodie   on the cusp of middle age -
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 16, 2025, 02:54:15 PM
Charlie wore a bulletproof vest and took precautions — no doubt multiple death threats had been made against him. And yet, the surrounding rooftops weren’t secured — again, just like with Trump. That’s basic Security 101. They should have been monitoring the roofs. People even spotted the gunman there before Charlie was killed. WTF?! This shooting should never have happened. They allowed it to happen.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 16, 2025, 03:03:38 PM
https://www.wionews.com/world/-hell-call-their-employer-jd-vance-backs-mass-doxing-campaign-to-find-and-harass-charlie-kirk-critics-tyler-robinson-1758031493960 (https://www.wionews.com/world/-hell-call-their-employer-jd-vance-backs-mass-doxing-campaign-to-find-and-harass-charlie-kirk-critics-tyler-robinson-1758031493960)

'Hell, call their employer': JD Vance calls for mass ‘doxing’ to find and harass Charlie Kirk critics

Vance's statement came after the Attorney General Pam Bondi said the government will “target” those who use hate speech before “across the aisle.”

“We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything, and that’s across the aisle," she said.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 16, 2025, 03:30:49 PM
if it bothers you so move on
you sound like a spinster teacher   Miss Brodie   on the cusp of middle age -

Nothing you do here bothers me in the slightest, because you've never really brought anything memorable or thought provoking.

Bring some original thoughts of your own and maybe I'll reconsider.  But so far your only contributions are memes, bait, and ad-hominem attacks.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: J. Richards on September 16, 2025, 03:44:28 PM
Charlie wore a bulletproof vest and took precautions — no doubt multiple death threats had been made against him. And yet, the surrounding rooftops weren’t secured — again, just like with Trump. That’s basic Security 101. They should have been monitoring the roofs. People even spotted the gunman there before Charlie was killed. WTF?! This shooting should never have happened. They allowed it to happen.

in this golden age of "Drones"...  and none to be seen hovering as security... pretty stupid really...
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Moontrane on September 16, 2025, 03:45:16 PM
Charlie wore a bulletproof vest and took precautions — no doubt multiple death threats had been made against him. And yet, the surrounding rooftops weren’t secured — again, just like with Trump. That’s basic Security 101. They should have been monitoring the roofs. People even spotted the gunman there before Charlie was killed. WTF?! This shooting should never have happened. They allowed it to happen.

A few trained drone operators scrutinizing the venue could've prevented the shooting.  Same with Trump in PA.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Moontrane on September 16, 2025, 03:46:16 PM
A few trained drone operators scrutinizing the venue could've prevented the shooting.  Same with Trump in PA.

Dang, well-timed.   :)

in this golden age of "Drones"...  and none to be seen hovering as security... pretty stupid really...
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 16, 2025, 06:19:33 PM
I know it's rage bait... but these people celebrating online are demonic, pure evil, just look at how the guys tongue moves when he laughs, some unnatural shit.  The women so smug and laughing hysterically like a fucking witch. I pity these spiteful leftist mutants.   

https://x.com/onebaddude_/status/1967305387792875658?s=46

https://x.com/1amerpatmrs/status/1967343523784806433?s=46
According to Primemuscle, nobody is celebrating Charlies murder, we are all wrong. ::)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 16, 2025, 06:41:30 PM
According to Primemuscle, nobody is celebrating Charlies murder, we are all wrong. ::)


Ha ha ha - He's in world / Bubble of his own  ::)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 17, 2025, 01:42:49 AM
They should use more Drones for security surveillance as well


Hope it will be implemented more in the future
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 17, 2025, 02:03:48 AM
They should use more Drones for security surveillance as well


Hope it will be implemented more in the future
All they needed were spotters on the rooftops — it’s not rocket science. Charlie’s assassination was entirely preventable, and it’s frustrating how casually they treated his security. I hope Elon’s team takes safety more seriously. Apparently, Mark Suckerberg spends far more on security than Elon does.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 17, 2025, 03:29:19 AM
You're right. Both sides just pay lip service to free speech. Most would eagerly censor anything that suits their agenda. Only a handful stay true to their principles over party loyalty. The US would be so much better off with a viable third party.

9/11 helped the govt censor even more
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 17, 2025, 07:53:49 AM
All they needed were spotters on the rooftops — it’s not rocket science. Charlie’s assassination was entirely preventable, and it’s frustrating how casually they treated his security. I hope Elon’s team takes safety more seriously. Apparently, Mark Suckerberg spends far more on security than Elon does.
Why do these guys even do outdoor events? If I were Musk or Zuck I wouldn't leave my mansion.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 17, 2025, 07:56:55 AM
A few trained drone operators scrutinizing the venue could've prevented the shooting.  Same with Trump in PA.


Aborting the Queer Fucker at birth would've also prevented it.  ;D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 17, 2025, 09:16:31 AM
https://x.com/jessebwatters/status/1968121351434350616?s=46
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Mothballs on September 17, 2025, 10:01:34 AM
A few trained drone operators scrutinizing the venue could've prevented the shooting.  Same with Trump in PA.
Well there was ONE drone operator active at the Trump shooting.

The would-be assassin Crooks flew a commercial drone for about 11 minutes around 3:50 p.m., about two hours before the shooting took place.

If you don't think the Secret Service intentionally neglected their job duties that day...
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 18, 2025, 03:12:20 PM
Imagine how shocked Charlie is going to be when he gets to the Pearly Gates (hahaha) and finds out his religion follows a brown skinned immigrant from the Middle East who believes in borderline socialism. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 18, 2025, 03:17:42 PM
Imagine how shocked Charlie is going to be when he gets to the Pearly Gates (hahaha) and finds out his religion follows a brown skinned immigrant from the Middle East who believes in borderline socialism.

 ;D

he also lived with 12 blokes
made his own alcohol
smashed up businesses


Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 18, 2025, 03:33:33 PM
Imagine how shocked Charlie is going to be when he gets to the Pearly Gates (hahaha) and finds out his religion follows a brown skinned immigrant from the Middle East who believes in borderline socialism.

Lefties try to be funny, but it’s like they are almost all Incapable.

It’s because sociopaths can’t feel anything.

Dead moderate politicians etc are so funny!

Tone deaf idiots..
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 18, 2025, 03:52:18 PM
there is an irony that charlie kirk spent all his life far right and died leaning to the left.


too soon?

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 18, 2025, 04:21:27 PM
I hope Elon’s team takes safety more seriously. Apparently, Mark Suckerberg spends far more on security than Elon does.

 ;D

&t=26s
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 18, 2025, 06:50:25 PM
there is an irony that charlie kirk spent all his life far right and died leaning to the left.


too soon?
This is how we know you get your info from liberal rags. Charlie was not far right, he was center/right. That Nick Fuentes guy would be considered far right, youtube some of his videos.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2025, 03:15:53 AM
Lefties try to be funny, but it’s like they are almost all Incapable.

It’s because sociopaths can’t feel anything.

Dead moderate politicians etc are so funny!

Tone deaf idiots..

No, it's because it's the truth.  Which is something MAGAtards can't grasp.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2025, 03:17:16 AM
;D

he also lived with 12 blokes
made his own alcohol
smashed up businesses

And walked on water and will rise from the dead no doubt based on his cult followers mentality.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 19, 2025, 03:34:59 AM
This is how we know you get your info from liberal rags. Charlie was not far right, he was center/right. That Nick Fuentes guy would be considered far right, youtube some of his videos.


chaos

it was for the purpose of a joke.

charlie spent his life centre right and died leaning to the left- doesnt scan

nick fuentes is a fucking crank
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 19, 2025, 03:36:00 AM
Lefties try to be funny, but it’s like they are almost all Incapable.

It’s because sociopaths can’t feel anything.

Dead moderate politicians etc are so funny!

Tone deaf idiots..

This

Typical from the Left
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 19, 2025, 04:45:26 AM
According to Primemuscle, nobody is celebrating Charlies murder, we are all wrong. ::)

Did he really say that??
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 19, 2025, 06:43:02 AM

chaos

it was for the purpose of a joke.

charlie spent his life centre right and died leaning to the left- doesnt scan

nick fuentes is a fucking crank
Got it. Just wanted to make sure you knew he wasn't far right like the media are trying to portray him.

Did he really say that??
Yeah, he said nobody was making fun or celebrating Kirks murder, despite being shown evidence.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 19, 2025, 06:49:37 AM
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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 19, 2025, 07:06:32 AM
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Yep hate speech is not free speech

Whenever you write lies about someone that's libel and if you say words then that's slander
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 19, 2025, 07:26:10 AM
Yep hate speech is not free speech

Whenever you write lies about someone that's libel and if you say words then that's slander

says the resident 'run to ron' coward


dj- how do you square sodomising teenage girls with Christianity?

answer you bullshitting coward
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 19, 2025, 07:33:39 AM
Yep hate speech is not free speech

Whenever you write lies about someone that's libel and if you say words then that's slander

who decides the difference?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 19, 2025, 07:33:48 AM
Leftwing Media Narrative 1) ''We dont know who did it, anyone could have done it''

Leftwing Media Narrative 2) ''The shooter was crazy, deranged''

Leftwing Media Narrative 3) ''The gun did it, out law all guns''

Leftwing Media Narrative 5) ''MAGA did it''

Leftwing Media Narrative 6) ''Trump did it''

Leftwing Media Narrative 7) ''It was a touching love story''

Leftwing Media Narrative 8 ) ''We don't like killing people...BUT we hate everything Charlie Kirk stood for...he had a it coming...Karma..what goes around...'' 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2025, 09:56:13 AM
"Some gun deaths are worth having."

There were 56 school shootings in the year 2024.  Republicans = "thoughts and prayers"
One MAGAtard loud mouth gets shot in 2025.  Republicans =  *lose their minds*

Interesting how they determine which gun deaths are "worth it".

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 19, 2025, 10:18:42 AM
"Some gun deaths are worth having."

There were 56 school shootings in the year 2024.  Republicans = "thoughts and prayers"
One MAGAtard loud mouth gets shot in 2025.  Republicans =  *lose their minds*

Interesting how they determine which gun deaths are "worth it".

Why are there no videos of any of those? Maybe 1% of school shootings at most..

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 19, 2025, 11:19:23 AM
Going forward it shall a legal requirement of school shooting that they only take place under video camera  preferably live cam
It could be called the lartinos law

Yes, exactly.

The year now is 1955, right?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 19, 2025, 11:41:32 AM
"Some gun deaths are worth having."

There were 56 school shootings in the year 2024.  Republicans = "thoughts and prayers" liberals = ban guns!!
One MAGAtard loud mouth gets shot in 2025.  Republicans =  *lose their minds*        liberals = celebrate in faggotry

Interesting how they determine which gun deaths are "worth it".
Interesting how liberals determine which gun deaths to celebrate.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 19, 2025, 11:51:07 AM
"Some gun deaths are worth having."

There were 56 school shootings in the year 2024.  Republicans = "thoughts and prayers"
One MAGAtard loud mouth gets shot in 2025.  Republicans =  *lose their minds*

Interesting how they determine which gun deaths are "worth it".

You’re exactly reason why liberals are so dishonest and uninformed. Here the full quote

https://rumble.com/v6yu4rm-charlie-kirk-some-gun-deaths-is-worth-it-in-order-to-have-second-amendment.html
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 19, 2025, 12:06:26 PM
"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."

I posted the actual interview in his own words and you give us a cherry picked quote….from “Media Matters” no less
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 19, 2025, 12:31:24 PM
there thee  did you get butt hurted again?

No, I just proved once again what a leftist shill you are.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 19, 2025, 12:46:30 PM
No, I just proved once again what a leftist shill you are.

:)
while you were working up your indignation you seem to have not noticed I was counterpointing Lurker Know all
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 19, 2025, 12:59:57 PM
"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."


so charlie would be happy to die as he did. fair play to him I say.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 19, 2025, 01:09:28 PM

so charlie would be happy to die as he did. fair play to him I say.

Don’t be like BBC and actually watch the interview and the context of the quote.

https://rumble.com/v6yu4rm-charlie-kirk-some-gun-deaths-is-worth-it-in-order-to-have-second-amendment.html
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: unwieldy on September 19, 2025, 02:16:41 PM
I'm still not sure who he was. Some kind of evangelical apologist?    ???
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 19, 2025, 02:18:33 PM
I've seen it

he said a few deaths is an acceptable trade off so you can walk around tooled up.


he therefore is an acceptable death by his own words.

would you have picked the sniper off with your pistol coach?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: unwieldy on September 19, 2025, 02:22:22 PM
His wife looks like the type of woman with a huge ego that controls her husband.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2025, 02:29:05 PM
Interesting how liberals determine which gun deaths to celebrate.

Interesting how MAGAtards are ok with innocent kids dying but not with their own retarded moron getting karmic comeuppance.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2025, 02:33:43 PM
You’re exactly reason why liberals are so dishonest and uninformed. Here the full quote

https://rumble.com/v6yu4rm-charlie-kirk-some-gun-deaths-is-worth-it-in-order-to-have-second-amendment.html

Another fail by you.  The point he espouses gun deaths being worth ANYTHING is exactly why little larpers like you will never be taken seriously.

The hypocrisy of hundreds of school kids being shot and killed in multiple mass shootings while Republicans with their "thoughts and prayers" afterwards is not lost when the retards lose their minds over one of their morons being shot and killed.

So how many children deaths does it take to equal one Charlie Kirk before Republicans have the same outrage?  Hmmm?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 19, 2025, 03:24:05 PM
Kirk's assassination was an inside job. There's no way that shooter should have been on the roof that close to him. He was wearing a bulletproof vest so they knew he was a target. And yet a shooter can be on a roof?! I don't buy that for 1 second and his own crew acted suspicious AF.

Watch Sommi at around 7:53

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 19, 2025, 03:32:20 PM
Kirk's assassination was an inside job. There's no way that shooter should have been on the roof that close to him. He was wearing a bulletproof vest so they knew he was a target. And yet a shooter can be on a roof?! I don't buy that for 1 second and his own crew acted suspicious AF.


Elvis’s estate became more valuable after he died 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: J. Richards on September 19, 2025, 03:42:04 PM
who decides the difference?

morality and common sense
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Dave D on September 19, 2025, 03:49:37 PM
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Again I did not agree with the left (government ) when they were targeting hate speech (private sector canceling employment is a completely separate topic) so it is disappointing to see the right do the same thing.

Anyone who’s making threats about taking out the president should be tracked down though.

These politicians have brought this upon themselves targeting Trump.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 19, 2025, 03:56:46 PM
morality and common sense
indeed
who decides what is moral and who decides what is common sense?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 19, 2025, 04:02:40 PM
SilencedSirs◼️
@SilentlySirs
⚡️🇺🇸🇮🇱 BREAKING: NSA traced 12 Israeli phones at Charlie Kirk’s assassination site. U.S. officials are “really freaked out.”

https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1968383226172608682
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 19, 2025, 04:06:24 PM
Netanyahu has apparently on numerous occasions denied that Israel murdered Kirk. Meanwhile no comments from Iran, Russia, China, India. Why does he feel the need to deny anything?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/netanyahu-charlie-kirk-murder-israel-maga-trump-b2828940.html
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 19, 2025, 04:09:58 PM
03:00 Government Is Lying
03:38 Leaked Camera Footage of Charlie Kirk Event
05:23 Video: Suspicious Employee steals Camera Footage
07:00 Sneaky Sneaky
07:43 Israel's Netanyahu makes 5th Video on Charlie Kirk

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 19, 2025, 04:18:21 PM
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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 19, 2025, 04:41:14 PM
Interesting how MAGAtards are ok with innocent kids dying but not with their own retarded moron getting karmic comeuppance.
Interesting how liberals wait until a tragedy strikes to manipulate and extort people into believing some retarded leftist bullshit.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2025, 05:05:46 PM
Interesting how liberals wait until a tragedy strikes to manipulate and extort people into believing some retarded leftist bullshit.

Interesting how MAGAtards wait until tragedy strikes one of theirs to whine and cry to manipulate and extort people into believing some retarded far right bullshit.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 19, 2025, 05:12:09 PM
Interesting how MAGAtards wait until tragedy strikes one of theirs to whine and cry to manipulate and extort people into believing some retarded far right bullshit.
Interesting how liberals were all for canceling free speech until it happens to them.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 19, 2025, 07:12:54 PM
A while back I said that ICE might be used for other purposes other than arresting illegals in the future. I was called an idiot of course and will be again. Only a retard liberal thinks something like ICE might be used against domestic threats. This one blog I find very interesting, on the Ukraine, Iran wars and so on, talks a bit about that in the wake of Kirk's killing, in case someone is interested. Unfortunately the whole thing is subscription only.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/the-pendulum-swings-free-speech-falls

Snippet:
Quote
Some have gone as far as to warn of the connection with Trump’s recent deployment of National Guard troops to US cities, under the aegis of fighting crime and abetting ICE in their harvest of illegals. They have tied the initiatives into a broader ‘Project Esther’-style commitment to “fight antisemitism” by shielding Israel from any possible criticisms in order to whitewash its now-indisputable crimes.

For those that don’t know, Project Esther—named after a figure in the Hebrew bible—comes by way of the Heritage Foundation and aims to “dismantle the Hamas network” in the US by labeling anyone criticizing Israel or supporting Palestine as potential ‘terrorists’ and being tied to Hamas. The connection is obvious: the Trump administration’s normalization of boots-on-ground in US cities can easily be escalated to “rooting out leftwing terrorists” in accordance with Project Esther. Particularly, this could be done under a wider ICE dragnet which would act as stalking horse to plump headlines with the “good” kinds of jackboot roundups to paper over the nefarious kinds, i.e. the roundup of Israel-criticizers.

Many will cheer such scenes, until the switch is flipped and those same troops start coming for them.

Is this all ridiculous subversive alarmism? :)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 19, 2025, 07:59:56 PM
A while back I said that ICE might be used for other purposes other than arresting illegals in the future.

Might?

They always have been.  Why would you think otherwise?

Here's two examples of many:

Quote
Operation Covid Chatdown results in 34 men being arrested in Fresno, California, for soliciting sexual acts from people they believed were 12- or 13-year-old children. The men traveled by foot, skateboard, bike and vehicle to meet the children, who turned out to be law enforcement operatives with badges, guns and handcuffs. Several arrested individuals admit to victimizing real children during previous attempts.

Quote
DHS launches the Center for Countering Human Trafficking, led by HSI, to capitalize on HSI’s operational expertise in human trafficking and forced labor fraud investigations while utilizing a whole-of-government approach to combating these crimes. The CCHT’s aim is to enhance investigations, reach out to the public, support victim assistance programs, provide specialized training and grow partnerships.

There's so much more.

https://www.ice.gov/features/history

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 19, 2025, 08:06:44 PM
“It’s the guns”

https://x.com/jessebwatters/status/1969205260234223814?s=46
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 19, 2025, 08:26:52 PM
I guarantee the left is on the wrong side of history here.

Remember every single post in this thread here on GB for future reference.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1B4WytNzGs/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 19, 2025, 10:40:00 PM
“It’s the guns”

https://x.com/jessebwatters/status/1969205260234223814?s=46

Why talk about an impossibility like getting rid of guns in the US?  There are 400 million guns in the US.  It would take us turning into Nazi Germany or Totalitarian China/Russia to get rid of them, door to door searches, ratting on neighbors, gestapo like abuses, massive citizen surveillance, etc.  Might as well talk about the chances of the Mr. Olympia overtaking the Super Bowl or World Cup, or DJ181 sticking with a plan.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2025, 02:52:20 AM
Why talk about an impossibility like getting rid of guns in the US?  There are 400 million guns in the US.  It would take us turning into Nazi Germany or Totalitarian China/Russia to get rid of them, door to door searches, ratting on neighbors, gestapo like abuses, massive citizen surveillance, etc.  Might as well talk about the chances of the Mr. Olympia overtaking the Super Bowl or World Cup, or DJ181 sticking with a plan.
I was going with the first one being a realistic goal, but the last one ...
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2025, 05:33:53 AM
Interesting how liberals were all for canceling free speech until it happens to them.

Interesting how MAGAtards didn't like free speech until theirs was threatened.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 20, 2025, 06:19:38 AM
Free speech does not mean speech without consequence.



absolutely true

 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 20, 2025, 06:26:59 AM
so charlike kirk should have get his mouth shut with his mad opinions

he didnt so got slotted

the shooter may have felt charlie was a danger and was protecting his family
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 08:20:22 AM
Interesting how MAGAtards didn't like free speech until theirs was threatened.

I'm sure you could back that up, right?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 08:21:29 AM
so charlike kirk should have get his mouth shut with his mad opinions

he didnt so got slotted

the shooter may have felt charlie was a danger and was protecting his family

He was a gay furry...
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 20, 2025, 08:36:32 AM
What is a gay furry and why is it relevant here?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 20, 2025, 08:41:39 AM
He was a gay furry...

what does that mean?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 08:44:52 AM
what does that mean?

They dress up in animal costumes and identify as that animal. Seriously. When I was a high school coach we'd see kids on campus that were "furries".
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 20, 2025, 08:55:05 AM
They dress up in animal costumes and identify as that animal. Seriously. When I was a high school coach we'd see kids on campus that were "furries".

It must have so traumatised you that you dedicated a large part of your life to an lifestyle known for: consuming illegal drugs, injecting oil to artificially enlarge muscles, putting on makeup and prancing around on a stage dressed in tight shiny jumped up shoelaces for the delectation of overweight middle aged fans
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 09:27:49 AM
It must have so traumatised you that you dedicated a large part of your life to an lifestyle known for: consumes illegal drugs, injecting oil to artificially enlarge muscles, putting on makeup and prancing around on a stage dressed in tight shiny jumped up shoelaces for the delectation of overweight middle aged fans

The furry culture is also the extremist trans culture. It's mental illness. As for the rest of your comment. You're on a bodybuilding website. I'm sure you're just not here for the Worlds politics.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 20, 2025, 09:30:21 AM
what does that mean?

This behavior is just normal for the lefties now in the USA.

Are the lefties a bunch of weirdos in the UK as well?

If not, they will be going on along with the idiots over here soon.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 20, 2025, 09:31:42 AM
coach a philosophical question


how do you square thou shalt not kill with carrying a weapon designed to do exactly that?
what comes first jesus or the gun?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 20, 2025, 09:50:58 AM
He was a gay furry...


WTF !! he should've been locked up in a mental institution
not left to be out amongst folk.

So he didn't like what Charlie had to say - Then don't listen to him.
I don't like or listen to what 99.9% of the Loony Leftists have to
Say I don't go around shooting them Dead.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 09:53:46 AM
coach a philosophical question


how do you square thou shalt not kill with carrying a weapon designed to do exactly that?
what comes first jesus or the gun?

Jesus wasn't a pacifist. We have a God given right to protect ourselves, our families and those that can't protect themselves. if you want to talk about religion or faith start another thread on another board. If it's here it'll go a thousand pages
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 20, 2025, 09:59:34 AM
Jesus wasn't a pacifist. We have a God given right to protect ourselves, our families and those that can't protect themselves. if you want to talk about religion or faith start another thread on another board. If it's here it'll go a thousand pages

so thou shalt not kill you disregard


you arent a christian. with your death knell you may as well be a muslim. where in the bible does god say you can kill people with guns? nowhere. nowhere at all.

we should file good christian along with law abiding citizen under things coach pays lip service to but ignores.you cant clai any moral high ground.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 20, 2025, 10:15:55 AM
so thou shalt not kill you disregard


you arent a christian. with your death knell you may as well be a muslim. where in the bible does god say you can kill people with guns? nowhere. nowhere at all.

we should file good christian along with law abiding citizen under things coach pays lip service to but ignores.you cant clai any moral high ground.

in the name of God and all above
stop stop

you will only make him sulk 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 11:12:33 AM
so thou shalt not kill you disregard


you arent a christian. with your death knell you may as well be a muslim. where in the bible does god say you can kill people with guns? nowhere. nowhere at all.

we should file good christian along with law abiding citizen under things coach pays lip service to but ignores.you cant clai any moral high ground.

Sure man, whatever makes you feel better. Have at it. Hey bud, and for the record, I’m not Hankins don’t pull that bullshit with me
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 20, 2025, 11:27:42 AM
But you did say have at it!

Peace be with you brother
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Dave D on September 20, 2025, 11:28:19 AM
so charlike kirk should have get his mouth shut with his mad opinions

he didnt so got slotted

the shooter may have felt charlie was a danger and was protecting his family

It’s obvious this is what true shooter thought. Do you think he was justified? Do you think it was good  MLK was shot because of his radical ideas?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 20, 2025, 11:39:03 AM
It’s obvious this is what true shooter thought. Do you think he was justified? Do you think it was good  MLK was shot because of his radical ideas?

Wrong

King was eliminated by the deep state same as Kennedy
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 20, 2025, 11:51:11 AM
Might?

They always have been.  Why would you think otherwise?

Here's two examples of many:

There's so much more.

https://www.ice.gov/features/history

Ok, yeah I agree. But I just remember saying, after reading some articles on it, that maybe one should be cautious about "paramilitaries" or whatever you might want to call them as they may be used for other purposes later and aren't likely to be dissolved. I saw Bondi somewhat walked back her screech about going after "hate speech"...

This is somewhat O/T here but that Berletic fella says many of the USAID NGOs weren't in fact dismantled, now they are just run under the state department and NED, Soros funded operations etc. Will be interesting if much comes out of designating Antifa as a terrorist org, some are skeptical... because going after the funders might be problematic. We'll see.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2025, 12:08:48 PM
I'm sure you could back that up, right?

Look at anything Bondi has said in the last week.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2025, 12:10:59 PM
Jesus wasn't a pacifist. We have a God given right to protect ourselves, our families and those that can't protect themselves. if you want to talk about religion or faith start another thread on another board. If it's here it'll go a thousand pages

No he was a borderline socialist, some would even say a communist, both which go against your worship of capitalism. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2025, 12:13:13 PM
Interesting that as soon as it happened, it was the MAGAtards that were already spouting CTs even before the shooter had been identified. 

Again, my question is if some shooting deaths are needed to validate the Second Amendment, then how many school students shooting deaths does it take to equal the outrage of one Charlie?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 12:16:28 PM
No he was a borderline socialist, some would even say a communist, both which go against your worship of capitalism.

lol… go back to bed
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 20, 2025, 01:07:23 PM
No he was a borderline socialist, some would even say a communist, both which go against your worship of capitalism.

there is evidence that Jesus Christ was a socialist. Absolutely.

If Christians believe the word is the Bible then Jesus was a socialist., Indeed Christianity and Socialism are intertwined.


A few examples below..

44 And all that believed were together, and had all things in common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Acts 2: 44, 45

32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.

Acts 4:32-37

31 When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory.
32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.
35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,
36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?
38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?
39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’
41 Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,
43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Mathew 25: 31-46

1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended.
4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing.
7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

Romans 13:1-7

13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you.
14 You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.

Luke 14:13, 14

If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.

Matthew 19:21

24 You cannot serve both God and Money.

Matthew 6:24.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 20, 2025, 01:19:58 PM
No he was a borderline socialist, some would even say a communist, both which go against your worship of capitalism.
The Pope recently criticized Elon's $900 billion pay package approval. Meanwhile the Catholic Church has a net worth of $2.3 trillion. The Pope is a hypocrite and lives in extreme luxury!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 01:42:26 PM
The Pope recently criticized Elon's $900 billion pay package approval. Meanwhile the Catholic Church has a net worth of $2.3 trillion. The Pope is a hypocrite and lives in extreme luxury!


So you think the “$2.3 trillion” is the popes? Be clear and at least somewhat accurate. What makes him a hypocrite?

I won’t address lurker and 38 because of the absurdity
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 20, 2025, 01:53:57 PM
coach dont dent the fathers word

jesus was a socialist

embrace the word coach
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 20, 2025, 02:07:28 PM
coach dont dent the fathers word

jesus was a socialist

embrace the word coach

You are posting some good verses 38
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 02:09:39 PM
coach dont dent the fathers word

jesus was a socialist

embrace the word coach

You go with that
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 20, 2025, 02:10:56 PM
I’m taking this out of context.... but this is a interesting counter to what 38 posted (again this is out context)

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2025, 02:11:46 PM
Jesus was wary of working on Bank Holidays in case he got hammered with tacks.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 02:19:33 PM
It takes over 5 years to read, cross reference then properly interpret variations of scripture from a theological standpoint and the get big socialists on here coming up with absurd notions that Jesus was a socialist and moron suggesting he was a communist lol
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 20, 2025, 02:26:19 PM
I agree with Chat GPT.

Jesus would hate the current left that is obvious.

“   Jesus’ teachings share values with socialism—concern for the poor, critique of wealth, communal sharing.
   •   But they differ in method—Jesus promoted voluntary charity and spiritual transformation, not state-mandated economic systems.
   •   Many see Him as calling for a radical ethic of love and generosity that challenges all economic systems, whether capitalist, socialist, or otherwise.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Dave D on September 20, 2025, 03:24:30 PM
No he was a borderline socialist, some would even say a communist, both which go against your worship of capitalism.

LOL I’m looking forward to you sharing the message of Christ!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 20, 2025, 03:30:13 PM
I agree with Chat GPT.

Jesus would hate the current that is obvious.

“   Jesus’ teachings share values with socialism—concern for the poor, critique of wealth, communal sharing.
   •   But they differ in method—Jesus promoted voluntary charity and spiritual transformation, not state-mandated economic systems.
   •   Many see Him as calling for a radical ethic of love and generosity that challenges all economic systems, whether capitalist, socialist, or otherwise.


What was Christ's biggest commandment?

Do you know
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 20, 2025, 03:33:17 PM
What was Christ's biggest commandment?

Do you know

yes


thou shalt not strong arm your mother into supporting you in your50's
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 20, 2025, 03:40:33 PM
Fair play to that

Blakely just wrote me this

Strength of body pales in comparison to strength of mind.

I do not like that message
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 20, 2025, 03:42:09 PM

So you think the “$2.3 trillion” is the popes? Be clear and at least somewhat accurate. What makes him a hypocrite?

I won’t address lurker and 38 because of the absurdity
I was referring to the Catholic Church’s net worth.

Have you seen the luxury they live in? The Pope, his Cardinals, and other high-ranking officials have numerous staff attending to their every whim. They stroll through beautiful gardens and travel in lavish vehicles.

Meanwhile, Elon reportedly sold all his homes and lives in a modest house near Starbase, which he rents from Starlink.

It’s not the Pope’s place to comment on Elon’s pay package — at least Elon creates products and provides valuable services.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 20, 2025, 04:00:56 PM
It takes over 5 years to read, cross reference then properly interpret variations of scripture from a theological standpoint and the get big socialists on here coming up with absurd notions that Jesus was a socialist and moron suggesting he was a communist lol

Unfortunately Jesus isn't here to settle theological disputes. How you put a number of years to 'properly' interpret scripture is curious though. From what I know many Christians wrestle with theological issues their whole lives, including learned theologians, with their heads buried in scripture and minds in prayer. Many seem to believe in a kind of revealed knowledge as well, not a wholly logical or rational analysis. And obviously many adopt the faith of their families, communities and so on. This is just what I see, not any kind of Christian myself  :)

Regarding communism and other ideologies, some argue that a smart man doesn't marry a certain ideology but looks at what works in that place and time, but I don't know... :-\
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 20, 2025, 04:24:06 PM
Do we know who this bastard is?

He was calmly talking on the phone or filming as everyone was running?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 20, 2025, 04:27:29 PM
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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 20, 2025, 04:52:57 PM
Kirk: "And, again, there is no separation of church and state. It's a fabrication. It's a fiction. It's not in the Constitution. It's made up by secular humanists. It's derived from a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Convention. Of course, we should have church and state mixed together. Our Founding Fathers believed in that. We can go through the details of that. They established, literally, a church in Congress."
The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 20, 2025, 05:05:08 PM
No he was a borderline socialist, some would even say a communist, both which go against your worship of capitalism.


Those terms, and the idea in general weren’t around then. Shit man, socialism and communism have no place in modern times. They were written about while emperors were rolling around owning serfs (and maybe tiny tits) gobbling up all the resources etc. Until we are all working together in harmony, capitalism is the best we got.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Rambone on September 20, 2025, 05:05:39 PM
Do we know who this bastard is?

He was calmly talking on the phone or filming as everyone was running?

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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 20, 2025, 05:06:31 PM
Do we know who this bastard is?

He was calmly talking on the phone or filming as everyone was running?

(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=700811.0;attach=1572490;image)


Thanks for these, Royalty. Now that you've zoomed in, I'd recognize that bastard anywhere. That's Danimal. No doubt about it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 20, 2025, 05:16:42 PM

Thanks for these, Royalty. Now that you've zoomed in, I'd recognize that bastard anywhere. That's Danimal. No doubt about it.

Nervous?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 20, 2025, 05:19:24 PM
Nervous?

Of course. This means he's still roaming the streets, stalking women and making new gimmick accounts.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 20, 2025, 05:24:14 PM
Of course. This means he's still roaming the streets, stalking women and making new gimmick accounts.

Joon found your real pics, and you are just an ugly creep.


There is nothing that you can do about 😂
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 20, 2025, 05:27:26 PM
Joon found your real pics, and you are just an ugly creep.


There is nothing that you can do about 😂

It's a funny bluff, but I've posted my pics on here before and would do so again. Let's both do it and the forum can vote on who's the bigger creep.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 20, 2025, 05:27:53 PM
It's a funny bluff, but I've posted my pics on here before and would do so again. Let's both do it and the forum can vote on who's the bigger creep.

Ugly
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2025, 05:43:09 PM
lol… go back to bed

Of course you wouldn't grasp this because you don't know the difference between either.
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2025, 05:44:52 PM
The Pope recently criticized Elon's $900 billion pay package approval. Meanwhile the Catholic Church has a net worth of $2.3 trillion. The Pope is a hypocrite and lives in extreme luxury!

Have you notice that the Pope (and Church's) wealth/assets comes from centuries of stealing from other countries and cultures?
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2025, 05:45:40 PM
It takes over 5 years to read, cross reference then properly interpret variations of scripture from a theological standpoint and the get big socialists on here coming up with absurd notions that Jesus was a socialist and moron suggesting he was a communist lol

Your stupid ass still thinks Jesus was white.   ::)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2025, 05:48:07 PM

Thanks for these, Royalty. Now that you've zoomed in, I'd recognize that bastard anywhere. That's Danimal. No doubt about it.

LMAO!!!!  Of course... the hands give him away.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 06:06:40 PM
Unfortunately Jesus isn't here to settle theological disputes. How you put a number of years to 'properly' interpret scripture is curious though. From what I know many Christians wrestle with theological issues their whole lives, including learned theologians, with their heads buried in scripture and minds in prayer. Many seem to believe in a kind of revealed knowledge as well, not a wholly logical or rational analysis. And obviously many adopt the faith of their families, communities and so on. This is just what I see, not any kind of Christian myself  :)

Regarding communism and other ideologies, some argue that a smart man doesn't marry a certain ideology but looks at what works in that place and time, but I don't know... :-\

I had a very good friend for many years, Father Brian Mullady. He was Dominican Priest (a religious order founded in 1216), he passed away about 6 months ago at the age of 78. He's right up there in the top 3 of the most influential people in my life. Anyway, he was a mentor and confidant, helped me through some trying times when I was at odds with the Catholic Church in regards to my marriage but that's another story. But aside from all of that, he was also one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. He was an academic, worked along side St. Mother Teresa. wrote many books on Catholicism as well as his own show on EWTN (you can still find them on YouTube) we spoke regularly. Long story short, that's how. From someone who's a theologian, an academic and someone who's has studied all aspects of the Catechism, the Bible, how archaeological findings supports the Bible and its history, etc.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: nobody in particular on September 20, 2025, 09:02:13 PM
coach without having a dog in the fight reference the current debate, you might find the folllowing book an interesting read

https://www.amazon.com.au/Lost-Christianities-Battles-Scripture-Faiths/dp/0195182499
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 21, 2025, 12:10:43 AM
Have you notice that the Pope (and Church's) wealth/assets comes from centuries of stealing from other countries and cultures?
It's a business.

There's a guy I went to school with. Never showed any indication of being very religious. All of a sudden he became a prophet with his own little congregation.

Weird.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 21, 2025, 04:56:27 AM
Of course. This means he's still roaming the streets, stalking women and making new gimmick accounts.

He'll be alright as long as he doesn't harm one of these little sweeties

If he even thinks bout well then it'll be snipe city

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 05:18:05 AM
He'll be alright as long as he doesn't harm one of these little sweeties

If he even thinks bout well then it'll be snipe city




DJ he could beat a cub to death in front of your eyes and you would do nothing


'snipe city'


tell us about your made up experience as a made up sniper
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 21, 2025, 05:23:20 AM
Wrong I got in one guys face and another guy I approached walked away

Get your facts straight

And no im not some great fighter never claimed that

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 21, 2025, 06:02:52 AM
so thou shalt not kill you disregard


you arent a christian. with your death knell you may as well be a muslim. where in the bible does god say you can kill people with guns? nowhere. nowhere at all.

we should file good christian along with law abiding citizen under things coach pays lip service to but ignores.you cant clai any moral high ground.

I am in no way religious (very personal reasons) and feel all religious have their "get out of jail cards" in regards to your comment.  If you want a deeper dive into what you are asking try this : https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/does-thou-shalt-not-kill-only-apply-to-murder.html

Do you feel that someone is not a 'good christian' if that person is driving along obeying the law, and then another driver runs a red light and subsequently dies as a result of that.  In essence, the one driving and obeying the laws did kill someone. 

This is NOT going to turn into a religious debate, but to realize many laws (both religious and governmental) are not perfect.  So many damn loopholes ( thank you attorneys) to all of them.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 21, 2025, 06:07:42 AM
Wrong I got in one guys face in a swinger club and asked him to dick shelf me and another guy I approached walked away after asking him if he would like to have a threesome with me and Vig Steve

Get your facts straight

And no im not some great fighter never claimed that, but I am a great pain in the ass of this board
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 06:14:57 AM
I am in no way religious (very personal reasons) and feel all religious have their "get out of jail cards" in regards to your comment.  If you want a deeper dive into what you are asking try this : https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/does-thou-shalt-not-kill-only-apply-to-murder.html

Do you feel that someone is not a 'good christian' if that person is driving along obeying the law, and then another driver runs a red light and subsequently dies as a result of that.  In essence, the one driving and obeying the laws did kill someone. 

This is NOT going to turn into a religious debate, but to realize many laws (both religious and governmental) are not perfect.  So many damn loopholes ( thank you attorneys) to all of them.


I get that. however I feel being a christian thou shalt not kill and then going out tooled up with a piece that has that aim is incompatible.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 06:15:31 AM
Wrong I got in one guys face and another guy I approached walked away

Get your facts straight

And no im not some great fighter never claimed that


so tell us about your experience as a sniper.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 21, 2025, 06:27:54 AM
Don't have any that was an inside joke between me a spunker
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 06:58:16 AM
Don't have any that was an inside joke between me a spunker

or a lie to make you appear 'tough'

it failed
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: dj181 on September 21, 2025, 07:18:40 AM
Hahahaha

Let's have delon go through the posts and find spunkers post

It was top notch as the dude has great writing talent 😎
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 21, 2025, 07:51:34 AM

I get that. however I feel being a christian thou shalt not kill and then going out tooled up with a piece that has that aim is incompatible.

Jeeezus Christ this is silly.  It's thou shalt not murder.  Have you never heard that?  Hebrews executed people even after 10 Commandments.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 07:53:34 AM
according to the bible

which is the word of god

1. Thou Shalt Not Have Strange Gods before Me.
2. Thou Shalt Not Make Unto Thee Any Graven Image.
3. Thou Shall Not Take the Name of the Lord Thy God in Vain.
4. Remember to Keep the Lord’s Day Holy.
5. Honour Thy Father and Thy Mother.
6. Thou Shalt Not Kill.
7. Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery.
8. Thou Shalt Not Steal.
9. Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness against Thy Neighbour.
10. Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbour’s Goods.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 21, 2025, 08:19:53 AM
Jeeezus Christ this is silly.  It's thou shalt not murder.  Have you never heard that?  Hebrews executed people even after 10 Commandments.


"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose."
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: WrongAdvices on September 21, 2025, 09:03:02 AM
It’s well established that is a mistranslation of the Hebrew word ratsach. Get a new bible not printed long ago. Ratsach, more specifically means “to murder” or “to kill unjustly,” implying intentional, unlawful killing rather than all forms of killing (e.g., in self-defense or war).
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2025, 09:13:33 AM
It’s well established that is a mistranslation of the Hebrew word ratsach. Get a new bible not printed long ago. Ratsach, more specifically means “to murder” or “to kill unjustly,” implying intentional, unlawful killing rather than all forms of killing (e.g., in self-defense or war).
yes, its "thou shalt not murder"
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 10:09:13 AM
soooooooo god left a load of detail out for americans to interpret how they wish if they are pro-gun.


gods a bit shit isnt he?

Allah at least makes it clear.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 21, 2025, 10:17:08 AM
soooooooo god left a load of detail out for americans to interpret how they wish if they are pro-gun.


gods a bit shit isnt he?

Allah at least makes it clear.

Guns don't kill people
People kill people

Gods don't make religions
religious make religions
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 21, 2025, 11:19:13 AM
Jeeezus Christ this is silly.  It's thou shalt not murder.  Have you never heard that?  Hebrews executed people even after 10 Commandments.

Were the Hebrews not in Africa at that time?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2025, 12:53:51 PM
LOL @ the neutered euros worrying about Americas guns. ;D  You guys eating beans and toast will not convince the people eating eggs and bacon to give up their guns, no matter what your leftist argument happens to be.
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Post by: joswift on September 21, 2025, 12:56:31 PM
LOL @ the neutered euros worrying about Americas guns. ;D  You guys eating beans and toast will not convince the people eating eggs and bacon to give up their guns, no matter what your leftist argument happens to be.

I had that yesterday, I always grate cheese on the toast and put the hot beans on top

I also increase my test levels by occasionally having egg on toast
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2025, 01:02:31 PM
I had that yesterday, I always grate cheese on the toast and put the hot beans on top

I also increase my test levels by occasionally having egg on toast
Serious question...how are the beans prepared? Are they soggy? Flavored?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2025, 01:03:57 PM
Serious question...how are the beans prepared? Are they soggy? Flavored?

baked Haricot beans in Tomato sauce
(https://media.nisbets.com/asset/core/prodimage/large_new/ka691_npi25-1.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2025, 01:05:48 PM
baked Haricot beans in Tomato sauce
(https://media.nisbets.com/asset/core/prodimage/large_new/ka691_npi25-1.jpg)
So your toast is soggy as fuck? Do you throw some Tapatio or Cholula on there for flavor?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 21, 2025, 01:10:00 PM
Ok, yeah I agree. But I just remember saying, after reading some articles on it, that maybe one should be cautious about "paramilitaries" or whatever you might want to call them as they may be used for other purposes later and aren't likely to be dissolved. I saw Bondi somewhat walked back her screech about going after "hate speech"...

This is somewhat O/T here but that Berletic fella says many of the USAID NGOs weren't in fact dismantled, now they are just run under the state department and NED, Soros funded operations etc. Will be interesting if much comes out of designating Antifa as a terrorist org, some are skeptical... because going after the funders might be problematic. We'll see.

I hear you.

And Bondi should have walked it back.  As said, the worst thing about free speech, is free speech.  And hate speech is included in free speech and protected.  The exception, which Bondi could have easily clarified, was that if the speech is inciting violence and threatening an individual, that is different.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 01:11:24 PM
neutered??


UK deaths by guns- 0.013 per 100,000
USA 4.31 PER 100,000

you confuse 'neutered' with 'far safer'

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2025, 01:15:31 PM
So your toast is soggy as fuck? Do you throw some Tapatio or Cholula on there for flavor?
as soggy as Primemuscle

Flavour?  Are you mad?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2025, 01:19:26 PM
neutered??


UK deaths by guns- 0.013 per 100,000
USA 4.31 PER 100,000

you confuse 'neutered' with 'far safer'
Neutered because you don't have a choice. You prefer caged safety as opposed to free roaming danger. That's ok, but you using leftist liberal talking points will 100% not convince anyone to give up their guns.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: tatoo on September 21, 2025, 01:20:41 PM
baked Haricot beans in Tomato sauce
(https://media.nisbets.com/asset/core/prodimage/large_new/ka691_npi25-1.jpg)

when i see food like this... beans, boiled meat, boiled potatoes,  thin sliced bread.. it makes me even more thankful that i was raised in an italian american family lol... my non italian friends loved staying for dinner at our house haha
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 01:28:58 PM
Neutered because you don't have a choice. You prefer caged safety as opposed to free roaming danger. That's ok, but you using leftist liberal talking points will 100% not convince anyone to give up their guns.


'caged'

thats laughable

I'm not terrified to walk through any area in my city. I dont fear people based on colour of skin and dont feel that scared that I am tooled up. We have free healthcare, free education- you don't. you are enslaved by your system- the poor stay poor and the super rich get more rich. the rest of you are on the outside looking in to a party you will never be allowed in. Enjoy.

As for islamic terrorism- you created them in afghan and are the last country to lecture about conduct. Hiroshima- the most cowardly act was your swansong. And for years the largest funding of the IRA came from the USA. Thanks for that USA.

That beig said you gave us some good sitcoms like cheers, curb and brooklyn 99- and great pizza so while we all have our faults I am willing to give credit where its due!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2025, 01:40:08 PM

'caged'

thats laughable

I'm not terrified to walk through any area in my city. I dont fear people based on colour of skin and dont feel that scared that I am tooled up. We have free healthcare, free education- you don't. you are enslaved by your system- the poor stay poor and the super rich get more rich. the rest of you are on the outside looking in to a party you will never be allowed in. Enjoy.

As for islamic terrorism- you created them in afghan and are the last country to lecture about conduct. Hiroshima- the most cowardly act was your swansong. And for years the largest funding of the IRA came from the USA. Thanks for that USA.

That beig said you gave us some good sitcoms like cheers, curb and brooklyn 99- and great pizza so while we all have our faults I am willing to give credit where its due!
Gern geschehen
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Post by: Lartinos on September 21, 2025, 01:40:15 PM

'caged'

thats laughable

I'm not terrified to walk through any area in my city. I dont fear people based on colour of skin and dont feel that scared that I am tooled up. We have free healthcare, free education- you don't. you are enslaved by your system- the poor stay poor and the super rich get more rich. the rest of you are on the outside looking in to a party you will never be allowed in. Enjoy.

As for islamic terrorism- you created them in afghan and are the last country to lecture about conduct. Hiroshima- the most cowardly act was your swansong. And for years the largest funding of the IRA came from the USA. Thanks for that USA.

That beig said you gave us some good sitcoms like cheers, curb and brooklyn 99- and great pizza so while we all have our faults I am willing to give credit where its due!

So you are saying you wouldn’t feel as safe in the USA, right?

Ya, now you get it!

Your country could be headed in that direction..

Here is a police chief in the USA who told the citizens to own guns because it reduces crime.

Leftists in the USA are retards or corrupt and shouldn’t be parroted.

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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2025, 01:41:02 PM
So you are saying you wouldn’t feel as safe in the USA, right?

Ya, now you get it!

Your country could be headed in that direction..
Heading? LOL
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 02:14:51 PM
I would not feel safe in chicago for example not a chance
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 21, 2025, 02:17:08 PM
I would not feel safe in chicago for example not a chance

Downtown is fine.

The unsafe parts there is no legit reason to go to.

For the most part, it's really not a danger to you, or someone like you.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 21, 2025, 02:27:19 PM
Is this memorial being broadcast in Moldova?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 21, 2025, 02:29:29 PM
neutered??


UK deaths by guns- 0.013 per 100,000
USA 4.31 PER 100,000

you confuse 'neutered' with 'far safer'

Nope, can't do that. I do this almost everyday. Whenever I see anti-2A gun haters say this, they refuse to look at the totality of these statistics. For the record, I couldn't care less about other countries gun laws.

 Over all the Uk has a population of just over 67 million compared to the US of almost 340 million. That being said the UK overall about 0.09% in gun crimes compared to less than 0.01% in the US. Over 95% of our gun crimes (including homicides/murders) happen in democrat ran cities where "gun control" is tightest. This goes for Australia as well. People want to tout how Australia doesn't have guns or gun crimes, that's BS, in comparison it's that of the UK and US. While it's true in 1996 they did a mandatory buy back of 650K, still over 3 million remain....because those people aren't stupid. I know for a fact that home invasions are low in NSW because some people retained their firearms.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 02:38:56 PM
Nope, can't do that. I do this almost everyday. Whenever I see anti-2A gun haters say this, they refuse to look at the totality of these statistics. For the record, I couldn't care less about other countries gun laws.

 Over all the Uk has a population of just over 67 million compared to the US of almost 340 million. That being said the UK overall about 0.09% in gun crimes compared to less than 0.01% in the US. Over 95% of our gun crimes (including homicides/murders) happen in democrat ran cities where "gun control" is tightest. This goes for Australia as well. People want to tout how Australia doesn't have guns or gun crimes, that's BS, in comparison it's that of the UK and US. While it's true in 1996 they did a mandatory buy back of 650K, still over 3 million remain....because those people aren't stupid. I know for a fact that home invasions are low in NSW because some people retained their firearms.

what fact?

however you paint it UK total deaths by guns 38
US - 48,000 give or take

our gun laws mean less people die at the hands of guns than yours. ergo our laws work better.

thats the only stat that matters to me.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 21, 2025, 03:32:58 PM
I had a very good friend for many years, Father Brian Mullady. He was Dominican Priest (a religious order founded in 1216), he passed away about 6 months ago at the age of 78. He's right up there in the top 3 of the most influential people in my life. Anyway, he was a mentor and confidant, helped me through some trying times when I was at odds with the Catholic Church in regards to my marriage but that's another story. But aside from all of that, he was also one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. He was an academic, worked along side St. Mother Teresa. wrote many books on Catholicism as well as his own show on EWTN (you can still find them on YouTube) we spoke regularly. Long story short, that's how. From someone who's a theologian, an academic and someone who's has studied all aspects of the Catechism, the Bible, how archaeological findings supports the Bible and its history, etc.

Ok thanks. I'm not criticizing anyone's faith, just have some thoughts, seeing the endless wrestling over doctrine and so on.

BTW, if you don't mind, what was your opinion of the previous pope? I saw many on the right being confounded and some outright calling him a corrupt false pope, the antichrist even.

Another thing, since you know guns, I saw someone from TPUSA saying Kirk's spine was so dense and strong it stopped the round. Also said the bullet was recovered from just below the skin. Plausible?


------------

I don't know if the official story is true or whether the Israeli connection might hold any weight, but these are some strange coincidences. Is Ben Shapiro trying to take over TPUSA now? He didn't think Kirk was fit to lead it just 4 days before his assassination. A few quotes from an article.
https://www.unz.com/runz/the-assassination-of-charlie-kirk/

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 21, 2025, 03:59:35 PM
what fact?

however you paint it UK total deaths by guns 38
US - 48,000 give or take

our gun laws mean less people die at the hands of guns than yours. ergo our laws work better.

thats the only stat that matters to me.

If they makes you feel better, go with it
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 21, 2025, 04:01:37 PM
anyway charlies mrs has just said she forgives the shooter.

very christian of her.

surely that puts an end to it now.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 21, 2025, 05:21:58 PM

I get that. however I feel being a christian thou shalt not kill and then going out tooled up with a piece that has that aim is incompatible.

So how do you feel about a christian being in the military?

Show me one religion that have never killed in their name...I can't think of any
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 21, 2025, 05:28:54 PM
neutered??


UK deaths by guns- 0.013 per 100,000
USA 4.31 PER 100,000

you confuse 'neutered' with 'far safer'

Plenty of of stats that make UK not look good.  Fear of crime, assault victims, drug offenses, etc.

Just because I own a gun doesn't put me in a category where I am looking forward to killing someone.  In some ways, I look at it as evening out the playing field.  I understand that you were put in a horrible position and now have adopted your view point based on that.  That does not, however, mean everyone else will be so quick to "pull the trigger" as you.  Again, never would I judge you.  I can't imagine ever having to make the decisions you felt you had to make.  I just don't agree with your outlook on guns.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 21, 2025, 05:30:17 PM
I would not feel safe in chicago for example not a chance

Plenty of cities have that stigma.  I generally hate downtown chicago because of people.  I hate people  ;D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 21, 2025, 05:37:30 PM
what fact?

however you paint it UK total deaths by guns 38
US - 48,000 give or take

our gun laws mean less people die at the hands of guns than yours. ergo our laws work better.

thats the only stat that matters to me.


You’re 48,000 is way high and then when you take suicides out of it it’s much much lower.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 21, 2025, 05:46:43 PM
It's just silly trolling, he entirely ignores the murder point and mocks religion and forgiveness just for funnin

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 21, 2025, 06:06:33 PM

You’re 48,000 is way high and then when you take suicides out of it it’s much much lower.

Exactly. That 48000 includes

Police shootings
Suicide
ND’s (Negligent Discharge)
Murder/homicides

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 21, 2025, 06:24:18 PM
Exactly. That 48000 includes

Police shootings
Suicide
ND’s (Negligent Discharge)
Murder/homicides

Even accepting the figure, there are 400,000,000 guns in the US.  That means .012% of guns involved in a fatality.

48,000/400,000,000x100= .012%

Imagine 100,000 guns, now find the 12 guns in that 100,000 that will result in a fatality.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: nobody in particular on September 21, 2025, 07:11:42 PM
the reason NSW has less home invasions is the amount of africans. the crime there is more gang/turf/crime monopoly between various middle eastern factions. In Victoria withj more sudanese (esp, though somalians are a factor) the stats that were covered up for years are that an african 'youth' is - 140 times more likely to be involved in a home invasion or car jacking than all other demographics combined. Recently two kids (african) were brutally hacked to death by a group of 'youths' with machetes. Turns out it was a case of mistaken identity. They have been caught and charged. All African, andmost can't be named as only two were over 18. Worse still one of the accused was involved in a machete gang fight at a local shopping centre and thanks to our leftist government andjust ice system was free as a bird because any punishent would be racist.. Our state government response was to have 'machete disposal bins' - all near police stations at a cost of $12 million where all the offenders will just hand them in. Bins were built at a costing roughly 10 times what they were worth, and lo and behold the company that got the contract to build them was  a good mate of our previous state premier (equivalent of governor for US folks) Dan Andrews, possibly the most corrupt evil piece of garbage we've ever had. Now if regular law abiding folks want a machete for gardening we have to register them at the same cost and police background check levels as for a firearm. Whatever the fuck you do don't think that more draconian laws will fixz it they just disarm the honest decent people. If arseholes don't give a fuck about the laws and penalties for miurder, they aren't going to lose sleep over gun/weapons laws.

What needs to change is attitudes about the sanctity of life. And lefties need to pull their heads out of their clackers and realise that unconditionally claiming racist if a black person commits a crime nutures an attitude of ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY and it has to end. Equal treatment also means equally open to legit criticism not just 'fuck whitey
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 22, 2025, 02:48:15 AM
Plenty of of stats that make UK not look good.  Fear of crime, assault victims, drug offenses, etc.

Just because I own a gun doesn't put me in a category where I am looking forward to killing someone.  In some ways, I look at it as evening out the playing field.  I understand that you were put in a horrible position and now have adopted your view point based on that.  That does not, however, mean everyone else will be so quick to "pull the trigger" as you.  Again, never would I judge you.  I can't imagine ever having to make the decisions you felt you had to make.  I just don't agree with your outlook on guns.

thanks for an even handed measured response Krank its appreciated and your points as ever are valid. I appreciate it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 22, 2025, 02:50:09 AM
It's just silly trolling, he entirely ignores the murder point and mocks religion and forgiveness just for funnin

its not though I am just highlighting what I view as the incompatability of religion and a moral code an dfirearm ownership. I may use piss take examples but they are still relevant, surely.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 22, 2025, 02:53:26 AM
its not though I am just highlighting what I view as the incompatability of religion and a moral code an dfirearm ownership. I may use piss take examples but they are still relevant, surely.

morals are based on personal preferences unless you ascribe them to God
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 22, 2025, 02:54:31 AM
I agree but christians ascribe morality to being a 'god fearing christian' and the word comes first.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 22, 2025, 02:58:51 AM
I agree but christians ascribe morality to being a 'god fearing christian' and the word comes first.

yes, they base their moral compass on what God says.

Its an easy excuse to justify poor choices

Without the "because God says" excuse its pretty difficult to justify any moral arguments a person may have without saying "its wrong because it is"
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: nobody in particular on September 22, 2025, 03:09:57 AM
yes, they base their moral compass on what God says.

Its an easy excuse to justify poor choices

Without the "because God says" excuse its pretty difficult to justify any moral arguments a person may have without saying "its wrong because it is"

The Euthyphro Dilemma
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 22, 2025, 04:07:45 AM
anyway charlies mrs has just said she forgives the shooter.

very christian of her.

surely that puts an end to it now.

No it does not. That is a liberal misunderstanding of Christianity.

The reason she forgave him is to unburden herself of the poison
Holding resentment is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies.

Her forgiving the shooter frees her, it does not mean that what the shooter did does not matter.
Forgiving the shooter does not mean he does not deserve to face sever consequences & justice for his actions.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 22, 2025, 04:19:07 AM
I was clearly taking the piss

may jebus forgive me
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: unwieldy on September 22, 2025, 04:36:09 AM
No it does not. That is a liberal misunderstanding of Christianity.

The reason she forgave him is to unburden herself of the poison
Holding resentment is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies.

Her forgiving the shooter frees her, it does not mean that what the shooter did does not matter.
Forgiving the shooter does not mean he does not deserve to face sever consequences & justice for his actions.

Hope that helps.
Correct, it's unhealthy to let it control you.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 22, 2025, 04:53:52 AM
The Euthyphro Dilemma
Just Googled that, now my afternoon is sorted...
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2025, 05:01:10 AM
Serious question...how are the beans prepared? Are they soggy? Flavored?

I once asked a Brit, "is all of your food always so awful?"  His reply, "if it's been prepared correctly it is."
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2025, 05:03:06 AM
I would not feel safe in chicago for example not a chance

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 22, 2025, 05:10:20 AM
thanks for an even handed measured response Krank its appreciated and your points as ever are valid. I appreciate it.

No problem.  Growing up we never had guns in the house (mom was opposed, Dad actually was ex-military)

It wasn't until the whole Floyd thing that I made the decision to get one.  Talk about coming to suburbs, invading homes and businesses.  Nope.  You're not going to do that to me.

There's no one I know that owns guns that do not talk about the respect you have to have for them.  I don't think you can argue that it will always come down to the person.  So many weak minded people nowadays thanks to this creation we call social media. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 22, 2025, 05:13:19 AM
its not though I am just highlighting what I view as the incompatability of religion and a moral code an dfirearm ownership. I may use piss take examples but they are still relevant, surely.

I do think you're making a big leap between the religion and firearm thing.  I will ask my question to you another way.  If someone is a christian, should they avoid any job where a firearm is involved?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 22, 2025, 05:31:34 AM
What “meek” actually means...
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 22, 2025, 05:52:51 AM
I do think you're making a big leap between the religion and firearm thing.  I will ask my question to you another way.  If someone is a christian, should they avoid any job where a firearm is involved?

GOOD QUESTION I am going to need to think about that!

Bastard!

 ;D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 22, 2025, 05:53:38 AM
I once asked a Brit, "is all of your food always so awful?"  His reply, "if it's been prepared correctly it is."

and yet London has more michelin starred restaurants than nyc!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2025, 06:32:39 AM
and yet London has more michelin starred restaurants than nyc!

That’s no surprise at all.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 22, 2025, 08:21:22 AM
and yet London has more michelin starred restaurants than nyc!

What might you say about this?   ;D

(https://www.chefspencil.com/wp-content/uploads/copy-michelin-restaurants-by-city-map-1-1-1300x1127.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: loco on September 22, 2025, 10:18:56 AM
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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 22, 2025, 10:50:27 AM


"That young man—I forgive him. I forgive him because it is what Christ did and it is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we know from the gospel is love and always love. Love for our enemies and love for those who persecute us."

Ericka Kirk



"That’s where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent, and I don’t want the best for them. I’m sorry. I am sorry, Erika. But now Erika can talk to me, and the whole group, and maybe they can convince me that that’s not right. But I can’t stand my opponent.”

Donald Trump
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 22, 2025, 11:03:44 AM
No problem.  Growing up we never had guns in the house (mom was opposed, Dad actually was ex-military)

It wasn't until the whole Floyd thing that I made the decision to get one.  Talk about coming to suburbs, invading homes and businesses.  Nope.  You're not going to do that to me.

There's no one I know that owns guns that do not talk about the respect you have to have for them.  I don't think you can argue that it will always come down to the person.  So many weak minded people nowadays thanks to this creation we call social media.

Scenes like this are becoming much more common place than people realize. I could post these videos endlessly from the USA.

Some people are caught and pretty much every time it is outsiders going into a suburb.

Imagine being this old Asian guy if he was reading the comments on GB and these brain dead leftists want to disarm him.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 22, 2025, 01:28:25 PM
NEW EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THE FBI IS LYING?

I’m not sure if Obsidian, Coach, Grape Ape ect...
have posted this video yet..... so I’ll post it


This video claims that the real shooter was on Charlie’s back, right hand side


Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 22, 2025, 01:44:53 PM
I’m not sure if Obsidian, Coach, Grape Ape ect...
have posted this video yet..... so I’ll post it


This video claims that the real shooter was on Charlie’s back, right hand side




Behind him?

Wasnt there a wall behind him and a tent in front of that?
(https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2025-09/250910-charlie-kirk-event-utah-ew-348p-cd5b8b.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2025, 01:46:17 PM
Behind him?

Wasnt there a wall behind him and a tent in front of that?
(https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2025-09/250910-charlie-kirk-event-utah-ew-348p-cd5b8b.jpg)

Dude, stop.  You can't use facts and simple logic with CTers.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 22, 2025, 01:47:38 PM
Behind him?

Wasnt there a wall behind him and a tent in front of that?
(https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2025-09/250910-charlie-kirk-event-utah-ew-348p-cd5b8b.jpg)

The angle in the video looked like it was slightly behind him; but definitely on Charlie’s right

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 22, 2025, 01:58:36 PM
It’s turning into JFK part 2 it seems now.

Next will be the cultural reference like “grassy knoll.”

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 22, 2025, 02:14:44 PM
NEW EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THE FBI IS LYING?

I’m not sure if Obsidian, Coach, Grape Ape ect...
have posted this video yet..... so I’ll post it


This video claims that the real shooter was on Charlie’s back, right hand side




I'm not going to get into all of the CT's running around on the internet expert or not. I'll just give my own opinion and take it for what it's worth. It wasn't professional hit and hit missed his intended target. Not Charlie, but the shot placement
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 22, 2025, 03:51:38 PM
Have Trump and Elon made peace? I saw they shook hands and what not at Kirk’s service yesterday.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 22, 2025, 06:37:03 PM
I'm not going to get into all of the CT's running around on the internet expert or not. I'll just give my own opinion and take it for what it's worth. It wasn't professional hit and hit missed his intended target. Not Charlie, but the shot placement

Just my opinion.

If Charlie had been shot from the front...  his head would’ve snapped backwards

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 22, 2025, 07:05:20 PM
Just my opinion.

If Charlie had been shot from the front...  his head would’ve snapped backwards

Only if he was shot in the head. IMO, his head was the intended target. He missed.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 23, 2025, 04:31:24 AM
Still cant believe that the Skinny Dweeb Tyler could have made that shot or even held that rifle firmly.

Same shot that assisted at the Grassy Knoll was there.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 23, 2025, 08:48:06 PM
If they makes you feel better, go with it

Some men are tough and always game when needed, but they aren’t exposed to weaponry and guns probably scare them a little. The indisputable fact is that #1 - Gun laws will 100% guarantee that the only people turning in weapons are LAW ABIDING Citizens and I will gladly be gambling my rents retirement for  takers
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 24, 2025, 02:32:23 AM
Some men are tough and always game when needed, but they aren’t exposed to weaponry and guns probably scare them a little. The indisputable fact is that #1 - Gun laws will 100% guarantee that the only people turning in weapons are LAW ABIDING Citizens and I will gladly be gambling my rents retirement for  takers

What does this even mean?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 24, 2025, 05:07:25 AM
What does this even mean?

That laws regarding weapons will only be followed by lawabiding citizens

Criminals will still use guns (since they dont care about the law) which makes it even more dangerous for the general person, they will become even more victims.

This is a no-no for society.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 24, 2025, 06:31:27 AM
That laws regarding weapons will only be followed by lawabiding citizens

Criminals will still use guns (since they dont care about the law) which makes it even more dangerous for the general person, they will become even more victims.

This is a no-no for society.
Nice translation.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Super Nattie on September 24, 2025, 06:34:46 AM
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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2025, 06:41:10 AM
If they makes you feel better, go with it
Don´t see what the arguement is..the more Guns in circulation (legal or otherwise ) in the Civ Population is going to cause more deaths, especially amateurs with Guns who think the´re "Pros" with Day courses. it´s just a joke.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on September 24, 2025, 06:46:42 AM
especially amateurs with Guns who think the´re "Pros" with Day courses.

This group of folks is not the problem.

Most of the people in this category aren't going in thinking they're anything.  They just want to carry protection and learn how to properly do it.

Of course there will be some who might get a bit gung-ho, but regular folks carrying and overreacting has not seemed to be an issue.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2025, 06:56:57 AM
This group of folks is not the problem.

Most of the people in this category aren't going in thinking they're anything.  They just want to carry protection and learn how to properly do it.

Of course there will be some who might get a bit gung-ho, but regular folks carrying and overreacting has not seemed to be an issue.

OK i´ll word it another way, the more Civilians who carry a weapon some will probably use it ..simple maths
Given they are doing "courses" probably like Coach then i highly doubt they have any real experience to judge a given situation & to keep calm.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 24, 2025, 07:13:15 AM
OK i´ll word it another way, the more Civilians who carry a weapon some will probably use it ..simple maths
Given they are doing "courses" probably like Coach then i highly doubt they have any real experience to judge a given situation & to keep calm.

Without Guns, normal average law-abiding citizens (elderly, women etc) will become even more victims, since guns can protect them from the usually stronger, younger and crazier criminals, who without guns will use brute force, blades, knives, bats, axes etc

Rape , Murder and Assaultfest of Peace across the Land
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2025, 07:15:35 AM
Without Guns, normal average law-abiding citizens (elderly, women etc) will become even more victims, since guns can protect them from the usually stronger, younger and crazier criminals, who without guns will use brute force, blades, knives, bats, axes etc

Rape , Murder and Assaultfest of Peace across the Land
I wouldn´t trust you with a water pistol
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 24, 2025, 07:17:14 AM
I wouldn´t trust you with a water pistol

I can kill a human being with a water pistol (as long as it is made of plastic)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 24, 2025, 07:17:17 AM
OK i´ll word it another way, the more Civilians who carry a weapon some will probably use it ..simple maths
Given they are doing "courses" probably like Coach then i highly doubt they have any real experience to judge a given situation & to keep calm.

You are not wrong and gun violence is a small price to pay in exchange for guaranteed security from tyranny. The second amendment equals liberty, at least for now. Take a look at france britain etc to see what will happen to us if we lose it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2025, 07:30:09 AM
You are not wrong and gun violence is a small price to pay in exchange for guaranteed security from tyranny. The second amendment equals liberty, at least for now. Take a look at france britain etc to see what will happen to us if we lose it.
you´ve missed my point
Gun violence is a small price to pay? look at the scale of the UK VS´s the USA
Guns of all types are in the hands of many Citizens who are not in my opinion capable of real responsibility when using firearms.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 24, 2025, 07:36:05 AM
You are not wrong and gun violence is a small price to pay in exchange for guaranteed security from tyranny. The second amendment equals liberty, at least for now. Take a look at france britain etc to see what will happen to us if we lose it.

you'd have less gun deaths, no school shootings and a society with free education and health care
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2025, 07:41:03 AM
anyway my dinner is ready..i will eat that piece of chicken.. :D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: GymnJuice on September 24, 2025, 07:43:58 AM
you'd have less gun deaths, no school shootings and a society with free education and health care

We have "free" education. It is paid for by taxpayers.

The health care is a whole multi page argument. It could be better it could be worse. Personally, I think even with "free for all" healthcare in the US we would not be much healthier as a nation. Our culture is not healthy. That in turn leads to many health problems.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2025, 08:17:29 AM
Don´t see what the arguement is..the more Guns in circulation (legal or otherwise ) in the Civ Population is going to cause more deaths, especially amateurs with Guns who think the´re "Pros" with Day courses. it´s just a joke.

Last estimate was 490 million guns in a population of 340 million and approximately 48000 gun incidents.

Keep taking vailed personal shots.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2025, 08:21:52 AM
OK i´ll word it another way, the more Civilians who carry a weapon some will probably use it ..simple maths
Given they are doing "courses" probably like Coach then i highly doubt they have any real experience to judge a given situation & to keep calm.

You sure do have a lot of assumptions and doubts. You must have been stewing in that last conversation. Get it out.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2025, 08:35:51 AM
You sure do have a lot of assumptions and doubts. You must have been stewing in that last conversation. Get it out.
WOW..Coach is all fired up. Emotional responses like this can be detrimental in a real situation
Exactly what I was writing..
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2025, 09:39:53 AM
WOW..Coach is all fired up. Emotional responses like this can be detrimental in a real situation
Exactly what I was writing..

I don’t internalize. You should try it. Never had a problem with you until you started taking unprovoked shots. Sounds like you need help identifying targets
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 25, 2025, 10:42:41 AM
Another interesting theory

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1476888423629318&vanity=61574878176032
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 25, 2025, 11:06:03 AM
OK i´ll word it another way, the more Civilians who carry a weapon some will probably use it ..simple maths
Given they are doing "courses" probably like Coach then i highly doubt they have any real experience to judge a given situation & to keep calm.
100% not true. Law abiding citizens will (hopefully) never even draw their gun. This is the false argument that anti gun people have. The law abiding citizen isn't the problem. There could be a billion guns and if everyone followed the law, nobody would ever get shot with one. Criminals don't follow laws, pretty simple. And just to set the record straight, many people that take these courses are far more trained than your average police officer that only fires his weapon to qualify, so just because some yahoo has a badge doesn't mean he is better trained or more proficient with a weapon.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 25, 2025, 02:50:45 PM
100% not true. Law abiding citizens will (hopefully) never even draw their gun. This is the false argument that anti gun people have. The law abiding citizen isn't the problem. There could be a billion guns and if everyone followed the law, nobody would ever get shot with one. Criminals don't follow laws, pretty simple. And just to set the record straight, many people that take these courses are far more trained than your average police officer that only fires his weapon to qualify, so just because some yahoo has a badge doesn't mean he is better trained or more proficient with a weapon.

Yes.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2025, 04:12:01 PM
OK i´ll word it another way, the more Civilians who carry a weapon some will probably use it ..simple maths
Given they are doing "courses" probably like Coach then i highly doubt they have any real experience to judge a given situation & to keep calm.

What “courses” am I doing? Since you know me so well.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: kreator on September 25, 2025, 10:44:02 PM
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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 25, 2025, 11:45:10 PM
thats amazing


so 20 odd years later someone with a different name got shot in the USA

uncanny
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 26, 2025, 03:24:33 AM
thats amazing


so 20 odd years later someone with a different name got shot in the USA

uncanny

Same name

Same date
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 26, 2025, 04:39:56 AM
so charles kirkland and charlie kirk are the same name?

its not though is it?

for ref

CHARLES is ranked as the 9th most popular given name in the United States with an estimated population of 2,617,363.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Krankenstein on September 26, 2025, 05:05:34 AM
OMG so this has devolved into a massive conspiracy theory thread

1985’s “Cocoon” — the Ron Howard movie where a group of senior citizens stumble onto alien pods in a swimming pool that emit a mysterious life force, making them young and strong again.

In 2025, the big news cycle is full of chatter about Ozempic-like anti-aging drugs, plasma transfusions from young donors, and billionaires funding longevity labs.

In “Cocoon,” the aliens store themselves in glowing pods under the water, radiating energy that rejuvenates the elderly.

In 2025, biotech startups are building bioreactors — glowing, pod-like devices filled with genetically modified stem cells — and selling “rejuvenating plasma” treatments to ultra-wealthy clients.

The pods in the film are nearly identical to the tanks seen in leaked photos from certain longevity labs (the ones that “don’t officially exist”).

The “Antareans” (the aliens in Cocoon) claimed to be “retrieving their own” — but the real message, according to this conspiracy, was that human elites would one day retrieve “life force” from younger generations to extend their own lives.

In the movie, the alien caretaker is called Walter.

One of the major funders of plasma-based longevity tech today? Walther Biogenics (that’s actually a real small firm if you “look hard enough”).

Coincidence? Or breadcrumb?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on September 26, 2025, 06:04:41 AM
Everything is linked:

Cocoon, Snake Eyes, The Murder of Charlie Kirk, JKF and The Grassy Knoll,
Epstein Island and the List, The Moon Landing, Nelly Furry Taco, Russia/Ukraine, Simpsons,
Mossad, Soros/Rotchshild/Kalergi, Cthulhu, Nyarlathotep and Azathoth.

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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: herne on September 26, 2025, 12:56:44 PM
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Moontrane on September 26, 2025, 02:39:23 PM
100% not true. Law abiding citizens will (hopefully) never even draw their gun. This is the false argument that anti gun people have. The law abiding citizen isn't the problem. There could be a billion guns and if everyone followed the law, nobody would ever get shot with one. Criminals don't follow laws, pretty simple. And just to set the record straight, many people that take these courses are far more trained than your average police officer that only fires his weapon to qualify, so just because some yahoo has a badge doesn't mean he is better trained or more proficient with a weapon.

Yeah, it’s called perishable skills.

If a LEO isn’t doing live fire drills, sparring in the ring, and grappling 2X month, they’re not going to be prepared for that sudden violent encounter. 

A friend who was with LV Metro for nearly 30 years told me that LEOs don’t have time for this ongoing training, but if someone is paid to carry and use a gun, they should be continually maintaining their skills.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 26, 2025, 03:15:15 PM
Yeah, it’s called perishable skills.

If a LEO isn’t doing live fire drills, sparring in the ring, and grappling 2X month, they’re not going to be prepared for that sudden violent encounter. 

A friend who was with LV Metro for nearly 30 years told me that LEOs don’t have time for this ongoing training, but if someone is paid to carry and use a gun, they should be continually maintaining their skills.
Donny is mocking people that take classes, train and run drills because they don't have a badge, yet the guys that do have badges rarely train, either with or without their weapons. So to mock anyone that does train is silly to me but in the eyes of the euros apparently if you have a badge it gives you special powers where you don't have to train.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Moontrane on September 26, 2025, 04:58:44 PM
Donny is mocking people that take classes, train and run drills because they don't have a badge, yet the guys that do have badges rarely train, either with or without their weapons. So to mock anyone that does train is silly to me but in the eyes of the euros apparently if you have a badge it gives you special powers where you don't have to train.

And these are a few professionals.  Perishable skills...





Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 26, 2025, 06:33:35 PM
you´ve missed my point
Gun violence is a small price to pay? look at the scale of the UK VS´s the USA
Guns of all types are in the hands of many Citizens who are not in my opinion capable of real responsibility when using firearms.

Comparing the US to almost any country is one of the worst arguments that can be made by anyone. But again, the comparison as far as a percentage in the UK is roughly the same as if not slightly more than the US and Australia, the country that touts their gun confiscations is right up there...because the people that didn't give them up aren't stupid.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 26, 2025, 06:40:05 PM
Anyone who is stupid enough to give up their gun after seeing what governments did during Covid feel free.  One less idiot I have to worry about getting in the way when things go wrong.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 26, 2025, 08:21:24 PM
And these are a few professionals.  Perishable skills...







Every night I go through different videos not watching what crimes people are doing but the police responses with firearms. Some are good but a lot shows a total lack from training, their tactics and decision making is cringe worthy wondering how they didn't shoot their own partners..even when they grip the firearm you have to wonder.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 27, 2025, 01:28:03 AM
so charles kirkland and charlie kirk are the same name?

its not though is it?

for ref

CHARLES is ranked as the 9th most popular given name in the United States with an estimated population of 2,617,363.
White Pages returned 481 hits for "Charles Kirk". But many look like duplicates.
White Pages returned 267 hits for "Charles Kirkland". Again with duplicates.

There aren't millions of people with that name.

You gotta admit Charles Kirk and Charles Kirkland is pretty damn close. Charlie Kirk's real name was Charles.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Lartinos on September 27, 2025, 06:20:17 AM
Candace Owen’s announced she doesn’t believe Tyler Robinson was involved in the death of Charlie Kirk and wants everyone to know thats he’s not suicidal

Here is what she wrote on her insta story:

" I want to break this news immediately because it feels important and I think if I don't break it immediately, something bad might happen.
I  have earned the trust enough of the people to believe me when I say that I have verified this information but cannot reveal the source.

Tyler Robinson is not suicidal. The entire narrative that was placed in the media about him having been suicidal is completely fictional, as are many other aspects of what we have been told.

His father having "turned him in after a confession" is also complete fiction. To the contrary, Tyler Robinson maintains his innocence and has never even been to the UVU campus. There are absolutely zero photos or video that the campus can produce to the contrary.

Which is why they have produced nothing other than a blurry image which Tyler's family knows is not him.
Tyler has never once expressed a suicidal thought.
I want to make that clear.
The federal government is lying about absolutely everything, other than the fact that it is his gun.

Not that we needed further substantiation but Tyler Robinson did not author those discord messages.
I would like to again stress that he has never been to UVU campus but (and I need to confirm this later) I believe he was AROUND the campus on that day.

I will have more on this later but l wanted to immediately publish that the Tyler Robinson suicide narrative, plus the "dad that did the right thing after realizing his son was guilty" is a federal concoction.”e w  ceat
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: 38 returns on September 27, 2025, 06:47:03 AM
White Pages returned 481 hits for "Charles Kirk". But many look like duplicates.
White Pages returned 267 hits for "Charles Kirkland". Again with duplicates.

There aren't millions of people with that name.

You gotta admit Charles Kirk and Charles Kirkland is pretty damn close. Charlie Kirk's real name was Charles.

I'm just being a pedantic prick! Apologies
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 27, 2025, 08:07:15 AM
Candace Owen’s announced she doesn’t believe Tyler Robinson was involved in the death of Charlie Kirk and wants everyone to know thats he’s not suicidal

Here is what she wrote on her insta story:

" I want to break this news immediately because it feels important and I think if I don't break it immediately, something bad might happen.
I  have earned the trust enough of the people to believe me when I say that I have verified this information but cannot reveal the source.

Tyler Robinson is not suicidal. The entire narrative that was placed in the media about him having been suicidal is completely fictional, as are many other aspects of what we have been told.

His father having "turned him in after a confession" is also complete fiction. To the contrary, Tyler Robinson maintains his innocence and has never even been to the UVU campus. There are absolutely zero photos or video that the campus can produce to the contrary.

Which is why they have produced nothing other than a blurry image which Tyler's family knows is not him.
Tyler has never once expressed a suicidal thought.
I want to make that clear.
The federal government is lying about absolutely everything, other than the fact that it is his gun.

Not that we needed further substantiation but Tyler Robinson did not author those discord messages.
I would like to again stress that he has never been to UVU campus but (and I need to confirm this later) I believe he was AROUND the campus on that day.

I will have more on this later but l wanted to immediately publish that the Tyler Robinson suicide narrative, plus the "dad that did the right thing after realizing his son was guilty" is a federal concoction.”e w  ceat


She seems like she’s got an adderal problem or something. I don’t listen to her so maybe I’m wrong but anytime I see a snippet of her show or read text she seems to have gone off the rails. Something does that, it doesn’t happen organically.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Taffin on September 27, 2025, 08:13:33 AM

She seems like she’s got an adderal problem or something. I don’t listen to her so maybe I’m wrong but anytime I see a snippet of her show or read text she seems to have gone off the rails. Something does that, it doesn’t happen organically.

It's certainly curious - a lot of these former MSM commentators feel free to spread their wings a little, and at first I found her quite watchable* but I'm almost waiting for her to start talking about flat Earth and Moon landing stuff  :P

*full disclosure:  I'm an awful browser so dip in and out of long-form commentary - so my opinions are very low-value
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 27, 2025, 12:58:59 PM
Candace Owen’s announced she doesn’t believe Tyler Robinson was involved in the death of Charlie Kirk and wants everyone to know thats he’s not suicidal

Here is what she wrote on her insta story:

" I want to break this news immediately because it feels important and I think if I don't break it immediately, something bad might happen.
I  have earned the trust enough of the people to believe me when I say that I have verified this information but cannot reveal the source.

Tyler Robinson is not suicidal. The entire narrative that was placed in the media about him having been suicidal is completely fictional, as are many other aspects of what we have been told.

His father having "turned him in after a confession" is also complete fiction. To the contrary, Tyler Robinson maintains his innocence and has never even been to the UVU campus. There are absolutely zero photos or video that the campus can produce to the contrary.

Which is why they have produced nothing other than a blurry image which Tyler's family knows is not him.
Tyler has never once expressed a suicidal thought.
I want to make that clear.
The federal government is lying about absolutely everything, other than the fact that it is his gun.

Not that we needed further substantiation but Tyler Robinson did not author those discord messages.
I would like to again stress that he has never been to UVU campus but (and I need to confirm this later) I believe he was AROUND the campus on that day.

I will have more on this later but l wanted to immediately publish that the Tyler Robinson suicide narrative, plus the "dad that did the right thing after realizing his son was guilty" is a federal concoction.”e w  ceat
Intredasting!

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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Moontrane on September 27, 2025, 02:53:38 PM
Every night I go through different videos not watching what crimes people are doing but the police responses with firearms. Some are good but a lot shows a total lack from training, their tactics and decision making is cringe worthy wondering how they didn't shoot their own partners..even when they grip the firearm you have to wonder.

I've had friends, family, and neighbors as LEOs, and my daughter is likely going federal.  There is just too much at stake to allow one's skills to drop.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on September 27, 2025, 04:51:24 PM

She seems like she’s got an adderal problem or something. I don’t listen to her so maybe I’m wrong but anytime I see a snippet of her show or read text she seems to have gone off the rails. Something does that, it doesn’t happen organically.

anyday now she he it they will be outed as Emmanuel Macron
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 27, 2025, 06:40:46 PM
Every night I go through different videos not watching what crimes people are doing but the police responses with firearms. Some are good but a lot shows a total lack from training, their tactics and decision making is cringe worthy wondering how they didn't shoot their own partners..even when they grip the firearm you have to wonder.
Have you tried counting sheep? :D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2025, 07:11:03 PM
Have you tried counting sheep? :D

I literally can’t remember the last time I slept 3 hours straight. No joke lol
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: chaos on September 27, 2025, 07:58:37 PM
I literally can’t remember the last time I slept 3 hours straight. No joke lol
Get your nose fixed, that's helped me a lot.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2025, 08:59:43 PM
I've had friends, family, and neighbors as LEOs, and my daughter is likely going federal.  There is just too much at stake to allow one's skills to drop.

One of the problems is the defunding of certain PD’s and agencies but the other problem is those same PD’s and agencies won’t pay for or sign off on them even going outside private facilities. They cite for liability reasons
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 28, 2025, 02:11:45 AM
I literally can’t remember the last time I slept 3 hours straight. No joke lol

Cbd gummies ftw?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: WrongAdvices on September 28, 2025, 10:37:58 AM
Can’t imagine what life would be like not able to sleep more than 3 hours in a row. Is this just a quick up for a piss then back to sleep or something else?  I don’t really count that
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Donny on September 28, 2025, 10:45:20 AM
Can’t imagine what life would be like not able to sleep more than 3 hours in a row. Is this just a quick up for a piss then back to sleep or something else?  I don’t really count that
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sleep-apnea/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20377636
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: WrongAdvices on September 28, 2025, 10:47:44 AM
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sleep-apnea/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20377636

Seems incredibly long and expensive. I know someone who sleeps with one of those CPAP machines. Horrible existence. Lose the weight instead.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 28, 2025, 10:52:08 AM
Can’t imagine what life would be like not able to sleep more than 3 hours in a row. Is this just a quick up for a piss then back to sleep or something else?  I don’t really count that

I rarely get more than 1.5 2hrs max - Hoping that will change in
next couple of weeks as got an op on my kidney to remove the 2
stents that have been in since February & are aggravating my
kidney I'm pissing out a lot of blood when I pee.
Plus remove a big stone sat right in the middle of my kidney.

I'm damn knackered all the time.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 28, 2025, 11:04:06 AM
I rarely get more than 1.5 2hrs max - Hoping that will change in
next couple of weeks as got an op on my kidney to remove the 2
stents that have been in since February & are aggravating my
kidney I'm pissing out a lot of blood when I pee.
Plus remove a big stone sat right in the middle of my kidney.

I'm damn knackered all the time.

Fucking hell mate didnt know you had kidney stones, that surgery nearly fucking killed me

Are they doing keyhole?
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on September 28, 2025, 12:20:56 PM
Fucking hell mate didnt know you had kidney stones, that surgery nearly fucking killed me

Are they doing keyhole?

They not decided yet - said they will on the day.
They went in in February to get stone only they couldn't
find it- it appears it moved back into my kidney
That's when they put these stents in that are causing
me so much trouble.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: obsidian on September 28, 2025, 05:20:47 PM
I rarely get more than 1.5 2hrs max - Hoping that will change in
next couple of weeks as got an op on my kidney to remove the 2
stents that have been in since February & are aggravating my
kidney I'm pissing out a lot of blood when I pee.
Plus remove a big stone sat right in the middle of my kidney.

I'm damn knackered all the time.
Never had kidney stones - feel fortunate! Never pissed blood. Last bloodwork indicated good, teenage-level kidney function.

I noticed I have to get up more often at night if I drink a multivitamin before bed with my last meal. Ideally I drink the vitamins with breakfast. But sometimes I'm lazy and then decided to take it before bed when that happens. Now I'll just skip it till the next day. It's normal for me to get up 2-3 times for a piss during a 8-9 hour sleep session.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Royalty on September 28, 2025, 05:40:01 PM
They not decided yet - said they will on the day.
They went in in February to get stone only they couldn't
find it- it appears it moved back into my kidney
That's when they put these stents in that are causing
me so much trouble.

Illuminati, I know people that used “chanca piedra” to get rid of kidney stones. (Try it, if you haven’t already)
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Never1AShow on September 28, 2025, 09:11:09 PM
They not decided yet - said they will on the day.
They went in in February to get stone only they couldn't
find it- it appears it moved back into my kidney
That's when they put these stents in that are causing
me so much trouble.

Wishing you health and all the best.  Hope things get better and they're able to help you and then you get back to normal sleep and health.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Donny on September 28, 2025, 11:24:10 PM
Seems incredibly long and expensive. I know someone who sleeps with one of those CPAP machines. Horrible existence. Lose the weight instead.
Some bodybuilders suffer from it & just recently I saw a documentary about some German bodybuiler who was diagnosed with it, definitely not overweight in the strict sense of the word but due to his mass & probably drug use...he had to sleep with a mask
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 29, 2025, 12:23:51 AM
They not decided yet - said they will on the day.
They went in in February to get stone only they couldn't
find it- it appears it moved back into my kidney
That's when they put these stents in that are causing
me so much trouble.

I had a stent first time I had one removed

Second time the stent was coming out a hole in my back into a bag
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 29, 2025, 01:42:07 AM
Some bodybuilders suffer from it & just recently I saw a documentary about some German bodybuiler who was diagnosed with it, definitely not overweight in the strict sense of the word but due to his mass & probably drug use...he had to sleep with a mask

Most heavyweight bodybuilders and strength athletes suffer from it. First thing they did when I asked for a sleep analysis many years ago was measure my neck as there is a strong correlation, I think mine was 20 then. I didn't get diagnosed then but I'm positive I've had apnea at least periodically when I've been heavier. I think the machine can save lives.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: joswift on September 29, 2025, 04:36:03 AM
Most heavyweight bodybuilders and strength athletes suffer from it. First thing they did when I asked for a sleep analysis many years ago was measure my neck as there is a strong correlation, I think mine was 20 then. I didn't get diagnosed then but I'm positive I've had apnea at least periodically when I've been heavier. I think the machine can save lives.

If your hobby is forcing you to wear a mask to stop you dying in your sleep then you should look into doing something else.

Logic 101
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 29, 2025, 05:38:35 AM
I rarely get more than 1.5 2hrs max - Hoping that will change in
next couple of weeks as got an op on my kidney to remove the 2
stents that have been in since February & are aggravating my
kidney I'm pissing out a lot of blood when I pee.
Plus remove a big stone sat right in the middle of my kidney.

I'm damn knackered all the time.

I would advise ureteroscopy before keyhole surgery.  You say you already have stents, so that makes the surgery easier.   The shock wave lithotripsy is an alternative, but you will feel like Mike Tyson used your lower back and kidney as a punching bag.  Especially if the stone is bigger than average.  (Over 4.5)

Kidney stones are no joke.  In 2015 I was on a flight back from Narita and we were over the ocean with 6 hours to go when some guy in the back decided this would be the most appropriate time to pass his kidney stone.  I was up front in business class with my headphones on and noticed people turning around and looking behind us and flight attendants standing in the aisle looking back.  I took off my headphones and despite that guy being wayyyyy in the back, you could hear him wail and cry.  It was the most agonizing sound I have ever heard.   And there was nothing they could do at that point but fly on.  We were too far from Narita and nowhere to divert the plane to fast except LAX which was the closest, but still hours away.  That guy was in such pain.  He wanted to die.  Literally.  He said so himself.  "I want to die, God please let me die".  (By the time we reached LAX everyone else on the plane wanted him to die too)  They ended up taking him in the back and laying him out flat on the galley floor, but there was nothing else they could do but heat up water bottles and giving him a big dose of Tylenol and ibuprofen.  When we landed and the paramedics came on and wheeled him off, he was probably in his early 50s.  Drenched in sweat and hyperventilating. 

This episode bothered me so much that on the very next trip I took to India, I bought a bottle of Morphine Sulfate 20mg/ml and 20 tabs of Oxycontin to pack in my travel bags as a safe guard if I were ever overseas somewhere and had an accident or injury or whatever, I wouldn't have to wait hours and hours for treatment or pain relief. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: AbrahamG on September 29, 2025, 06:31:01 PM
I rarely get more than 1.5 2hrs max - Hoping that will change in
next couple of weeks as got an op on my kidney to remove the 2
stents that have been in since February & are aggravating my
kidney I'm pissing out a lot of blood when I pee.
Plus remove a big stone sat right in the middle of my kidney.

I'm damn knackered all the time.

Wishing you the best outcome possible and the least amount of pain/discomfort. 
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 29, 2025, 08:21:29 PM
I rarely get more than 1.5 2hrs max - Hoping that will change in
next couple of weeks as got an op on my kidney to remove the 2
stents that have been in since February & are aggravating my
kidney I'm pissing out a lot of blood when I pee.
Plus remove a big stone sat right in the middle of my kidney.

I'm damn knackered all the time.

Man, sorry to hear that. I don't sleep well because of tears in both shoulders but that's nothing compared to this.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 29, 2025, 10:15:25 PM
I rarely get more than 1.5 2hrs max - Hoping that will change in
next couple of weeks as got an op on my kidney to remove the 2
stents that have been in since February & are aggravating my
kidney I'm pissing out a lot of blood when I pee.
Plus remove a big stone sat right in the middle of my kidney.

I'm damn knackered all the time.

Sorry to hear of your troubles and wishing the speediest recovery to you my good man.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on October 28, 2025, 01:20:56 PM
https://x.com/SouthernKeeks/status/1981434187275260284 (https://x.com/SouthernKeeks/status/1981434187275260284)
Washington Examiner contributor Kimberly Ross.

“No, it’s not good that Carlson, Bannon, Posobiec, and [Texas Attorney General Ken] Paxton are speaking at TPUSA’s AmFest in December,” Ross wrote. “It’s bad, actually. The cancer should be cut out.”


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Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Kwon on October 28, 2025, 01:23:59 PM
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Washington Examiner contributor Kimberly Ross.

“No, it’s not good that Carlson, Bannon, Posobiec, and [Texas Attorney General Ken] Paxton are speaking at TPUSA’s AmFest in December,” Ross wrote. “It’s bad, actually. The cancer should be cut out.”


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Kings and Queens on there!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Moontrane on October 28, 2025, 02:55:23 PM
I rarely get more than 1.5 2hrs max - Hoping that will change in
next couple of weeks as got an op on my kidney to remove the 2
stents that have been in since February & are aggravating my
kidney I'm pissing out a lot of blood when I pee.
Plus remove a big stone sat right in the middle of my kidney.

I'm damn knackered all the time.

Just saw this.

Injured my shoulder this spring and didn't sleep more than 3 hours at a time until repositioning.  After waking in pain after after another three hours I was too tired to sleep, if that makes sense.  I finally started getting up to 5 hours straight a few weeks ago.

Pain is awful but that lethargy is a mean kind of hell. 

Hang in there.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on October 28, 2025, 03:30:02 PM
Just saw this.

Injured my shoulder this spring and didn't sleep more than 3 hours at a time until repositioning.  After waking in pain after after another three hours I was too tired to sleep, if that makes sense.  I finally started getting up to 5 hours straight a few weeks ago.

Pain is awful but that lethargy is a mean kind of hell. 

Hang in there.

How's it going ?  Do pain meds not have any effects to allow you to sleep longer.
What have you done / injured in your shoulder ? 
Having that broken sleep is a killer as we're not able to rest & recover properly
And as you say we end up getting up even more tired/ worn out.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on October 28, 2025, 03:37:00 PM
How's it going ?  Do pain meds not have any effects to allow you to sleep longer.
What have you done / injured in your shoulder ? 
Having that broken sleep is a killer as we're not able to rest & recover properly
And as you say we end up getting up even more tired/ worn out.

Have you explored peptides for sleep?  Seems to be some good data backing it.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on October 28, 2025, 03:42:23 PM
Have you explored peptides for sleep?  Seems to be some good data backing it.

No I haven't- My Kidney problems forcing me to pee very frequently was my main issue
Thankfully now having my stone & stents removed I am sleeping better 😊 & not peeing
Blood, early days only I'm feeling much improved.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Grape Ape on October 28, 2025, 03:53:24 PM
No I haven't- My Kidney problems forcing me to pee very frequently was my main issue
Thankfully now having my stone & stents removed I am sleeping better 😊 & not peeing
Blood, early days only I'm feeling much improved.

Glad you're feeling better.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on October 28, 2025, 03:54:21 PM
Glad you're feeling better.


Thank you. 🙏
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Moontrane on October 28, 2025, 05:50:27 PM
How's it going ?  Do pain meds not have any effects to allow you to sleep longer.
What have you done / injured in your shoulder ? 
Having that broken sleep is a killer as we're not able to rest & recover properly
And as you say we end up getting up even more tired/ worn out.

Right leg went out from under me when doing a Muay Thai quick switch kick.   I fell to the right and reached out, resulting in a dislocation.  It felt the same as when I suffered a shoulder separation 20 years ago, so I thought that I'd just get a referral for PT.  Nope.  Next morning I was in agony and went to the ER.  Doc popped it back in - no ketamine. :D There was a nurse standing by with a syringe of it, though.     

It resulted in the terrible triad: dislocation, torn rotators, and damaged brachial plexus nerves.

Two months in the nerves started waking up.  Nerve pain is no joke and has been as bad as the shoulder joint.  Gabapentin for the win.

Unfortunately, the most painful position is when lying down.  The amount of pain med that would allow me to sleep would be more harmful than beneficial.  Getting up to 5 straight hours of sleep has REALLY improved my energy levels.

I'm having PT to increase the ROM.  Ortho said he won't operate unless I have near-normal ROM.  Getting a second opinion next week - wish me luck!
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on October 28, 2025, 06:03:58 PM
Right leg went out from under me when doing a Muay Thai quick switch kick.   I fell to the right and reached out, resulting in a dislocation.  It felt the same as when I suffered a shoulder separation 20 years ago, so I thought that I'd just get a referral for PT.  Nope.  Next morning I was in agony and went to the ER.  Doc popped it back in - no ketamine. :D There was a nurse standing by with a syringe of it, though.     

It resulted in the terrible triad: dislocation, torn rotators, and damaged brachial plexus nerves.

Two months in the nerves started waking up.  Nerve pain is no joke and has been as bad as the shoulder joint.  Gabapentin for the win.

Unfortunately, the most painful position is when lying down.  The amount of pain med that would allow me to sleep would be more harmful than beneficial.  Getting up to 5 straight hours of sleep has REALLY improved my energy levels.

I'm having PT to increase the ROM.  Ortho said he won't operate unless I have near-normal ROM.  Getting a second opinion next week - wish me luck!


Damn - yes that was / is a serious injury . 
Sounds like you're improving & healing + getting a good 5 hrs is a big boost in right direction.
And hopefully that will increase for you.

Good thinking to have a 2nd opinion & With some good fortune you'll have some positive news.
👊🏻
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Moontrane on October 28, 2025, 09:43:46 PM

Damn - yes that was / is a serious injury . 
Sounds like you're improving & healing + getting a good 5 hrs is a big boost in right direction.
And hopefully that will increase for you.

Good thinking to have a 2nd opinion & With some good fortune you'll have some positive news.
👊🏻

Well, it wasn't my idea, in fact, I've never gotten a second opinion.

Gals at PT repeatedly raised their eyebrows at ortho doc's requirement that I improve ROM before surgery.  If I have ROM, then why get surgery, is what they've asked.

I like the doc, but I've never experienced an injury like this.  I've had a spinal fracture, trauma-induced disc herniation, rib fractures, blah, blah...  I need another set of eyes.

Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: illuminati on October 28, 2025, 11:44:13 PM
Well, it wasn't my idea, in fact, I've never gotten a second opinion.

Gals at PT repeatedly raised their eyebrows at ortho doc's requirement that I improve ROM before surgery.  If I have ROM, then why get surgery, is what they've asked.

I like the doc, but I've never experienced an injury like this.  I've had a spinal fracture, trauma-induced disc herniation, rib fractures, blah, blah...  I need another set of eyes.


That's what I was thinking why have surgery if you have full range of movement,
Mind I'm not a expert on shoulder surgery.
I'd say its a wise decision to seek out a 2nd opinion.

Injuries nothing worse & as we age we're more prone to them 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2025, 04:25:09 AM
Surgeons are in the business of doing surgery.

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: wes on October 29, 2025, 06:58:55 AM

That's what I was thinking why have surgery if you have full range of movement,
Mind I'm not a expert on shoulder surgery.
I'd say its a wise decision to seek out a 2nd opinion.

Injuries nothing worse & as we age we're more prone to them 🤷🏻‍♂️
I had a Gall Bladder problem once years ago.....it was bad/disgusting, but it was only this one  time  thing.

The ER doc suggested that I see a surgeon,so I went to see this broad who prefaced her  statement with:

It`s probably nothing, but I think we should remove your Gall Bladder !!!!!!!!

I immediately walked out....if it was nothing,why in the fuck would I let you cut me up ???

It`s like Nat says above,surgeons get paid huge coin.........she wasn`t buying a bigger boat on my fucking dime.

Never had a problem with my Gall Bladder again......of course it`s gone now along with a few other parts but fuck her.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Moontrane on October 29, 2025, 10:31:35 AM
I had a Gall Bladder problem once years ago.....it was bad/disgusting, but it was only this one  time  thing.

The ER doc suggested that I see a surgeon,so I went to see this broad who prefaced her  statement with:

It`s probably nothing, but I think we should remove your Gall Bladder !!!!!!!!

I immediately walked out....if it was nothing,why in the fuck would I let you cut me up ???

It`s like Nat says above,surgeons get paid huge coin.........she wasn`t buying a bigger boat on my fucking dime.

Never had a problem with my Gall Bladder again......of course it`s gone now along with a few other parts but fuck her.

Totally effed up, Wes.  Sometimes they say the quiet part out loud.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: Moontrane on October 29, 2025, 10:33:53 AM

That's what I was thinking why have surgery if you have full range of movement,
Mind I'm not a expert on shoulder surgery.
I'd say its a wise decision to seek out a 2nd opinion.

Injuries nothing worse & as we age we're more prone to them 🤷🏻‍♂️

We used to shrug off or train through injuries.  Now it's more and more often, "Where's the remote?".  :D
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: wes on October 29, 2025, 12:49:47 PM
Totally effed up, Wes.  Sometimes they say the quiet part out loud.
What a freakin` clown she was.

As I was walking out I heard her say......."I know you`re probably a bit apprehensive"...........


I just  closed the door and kept walking.
Title: Re: RIP - Charlie Kirk Shot Dead at Utah University - 2025-09-10
Post by: B_B_C on October 31, 2025, 12:18:22 PM
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