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Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« on: February 28, 2007, 09:14:15 AM »
Because some soldiers were ballsy enough to tell the press about the callous way the Bush gang treats the cannon fodder it sends off to die, kill, maim and be maimed in a useless, pointless, illegal, corrupt, immoral, murderous, mismanaged war, now all the soldiers in Walter Reed Army Medical Center’s Medical Hold Unit are being subjected to a punishment regimen – and banished to an area where they will be inaccessible to the press. So reports that well-known bastion of defeatist pink-lib Islamo-wimpism, the Army Times:

Soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center’s Medical Hold Unit say they have been told they will wake up at 6 a.m. every morning and have their rooms ready for inspection at 7 a.m., and that they must not speak to the media.

“Some soldiers believe this is a form of punishment for the trouble soldiers caused by talking to the media
,” one Medical Hold Unit soldier said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. It is unusual for soldiers to have daily inspections after Basic Training.

Soldiers say their sergeant major gathered troops at 6 p.m. Monday to tell them they must follow their chain of command when asking for help with their medical evaluation paperwork, or when they spot mold, mice or other problems in their quarters.

They were also told they would be moving out of Building 18 to Building 14 within the next couple of weeks. Building 14 is a barracks that houses the administrative offices for the Medical Hold Unit and was renovated in 2006. It’s also located on the Walter Reed Campus, where reporters must be escorted by public affairs personnel. Building 18 is located just off campus and is easy to access.

The soldiers said they were also told their first sergeant has been relieved of duty, and that all of their platoon sergeants have been moved to other positions at Walter Reed.


It is becoming increasingly difficult to find terms that would sufficiently plumb the depth and extent of the moral putrefaction that oozes out of the White House on a daily basis. Metaphors drawn from waste management, the barnyard or the most unsavoury of bodily processes fail to do justice to the moral nullity and active malice that animates every policy of this rancid, wretched crew.

While no one could possibly expect the foul, perverted, fourth-rate minds of the Bush Administration to pay even the briefest quark of concern or attention to the hundreds of thousands of innocent people they have murdered in Iraq or the millions of American citizens they have driven into deep poverty, one might think that they would at least make a show of caring what happens to the men and women they have so cynically and criminally abused in the service of their apparently limitless greed and infinite stupidity. Especially as the Bushists (and their innumerable little bootlickers out there instapunditing and powerlining and pajama paryting and blowing hot air) have made such a fetish of "supporting the troops." But as any sentient being now recognizes, they are not interested in the concept as a physical reality, but only in the mere phrase – and only so far as it can be used as a cudgel to beat their political enemies.

They literally, demonstrably, do not care what happens to the actual human beings in the U.S. armed forces. In fact, they are demonically adamant that more and more soldiers be sacrificed to their war of aggression and crony conquest, dying – or living lives blighted by pain and suffering – for the sake of the Iraqi "oil law." (Or, in the case of most of the bootlickers, for the sake of their own warped and stunted psyches, their apparent need to experience vicarious murder and domination – seeing the state as an extension of themselves – in order to assuage or cover up the various inadequacies, anxieties and craven fears that bedevil them.)

This is a remarkable state of affairs: a militarist faction that doesn't even take care of its soldiers. Once again, we see a glaring example of the blind and brutal stupidity that is the hallmark of the Bush White House. (And this stinking fish most definitely rots from the head.) The early Caesars had the good sense to keep their legions sweet, especially the Praetorian Guard; even Saddam Hussein knew enough to take good care of his Republican Guard. But the Bushists merely chew up their soldiers and spit them out, like drunks heaving after a binge.

Witness the language used by former Pentagon warlord, Donald Rumsfeld, one of the chief sources of moral rot in Washington (and who, by the way, is still gainfully employed full-time at the Pentagon, working there every day with a phalanx of aides, doing God knows what – perhaps still running the place behind the scenes). The scene was one of the "rock star" press conferences where Rumsfeld used to preen before a pack of fawning media sycophants. This was in January 2003, with the invasion of Iraq looming on the horizon. Rumsfeld was rejecting the idea that conscription would be needed for the coming war – and the many other promised conflicts of the "War on Terror." As I wrote then in the Moscow Times (Jan. 17, 2003):

"So Rumsfeld swatted the [draft] question away -- but it was perhaps the very ease of the parry that undid him. Ever the corporate pedant, Rumsfeld couldn't simply dismiss the notion of a draft; he had to explain why it was such a bad idea. His reason? Because the biological material "sucked" into the last draft, during the Vietnam War, was of such "inferior" quality.

Here the contempt finally broke through the avuncular rictus. Rumsfeld explained that your quality types -- college boys, married guys, teachers and others -- took advantage of "all kinds of exemptions" to skip out on combat. "And what was left" -- not even "who," just "what" -- "was sucked into the intake, trained for a few months, then went out, adding no value, no advantage, really, to the United States armed services."

Think about that. "No value." More than 58,000 of these "intake suckers" were left dead on the battlefield; hundreds of thousands more were maimed, scarred, tormented, brutalized, broken -- but they had "no value" to the "United States armed services." No value -- just meaningless biological material to be chewed up in geopolitical games.


The Bushists' contempt for the riff-raff who fight their wars was evident from the beginning. It becomes more obvious all the time, as the ranks of the dead and wounded keep growing. This is the mindset that rules America – sick, grasping, brutal, craven, stupid and inhumane. Every day these perverts remain in power takes us another step deeper into the mire.

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2007, 09:17:55 AM »
U really get off on this don't u....having never served and having a lothing of our armed services..why don't u shut the hell up.
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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2007, 09:24:49 AM »
Who cares?  The American people do not are about US troops.  They are disposable.  ::)

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2007, 09:26:14 AM »
I'd say they don't since less then 1 percent serve......etc.
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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2007, 09:28:16 AM »
U really get off on this don't u....having never served and having a lothing of our armed services..why don't u shut the hell up.

meltdown  :)

Why aren't you willing to condemn the shabby treatment of your brothers-in-arms? Are you really more loyal to the draft-dodging elitists in the White House than to them?

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2007, 09:30:54 AM »
Nope..but I'm not going to discuss it with u..u have never served..u don't really know any of these guys..u have shown time and again u could care less about the US and its soldiers so please don't patronize me. As regards meltdown..dude I can't stand u..or perhaps more correctly ur position, so its not a meltdown when i respond to ur BS.
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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2007, 09:32:37 AM »
it's very weird.  If you support someone, shouldn't it be okay to try to protect them?  

If you support the troops and want them to be safe, would you REALLY want them to stand guard in the shooting gallery of baghdad?  No.  You'd want them to avoid unnecessary risks.  And since Iraqis want us out, so they can do their job, well, why not?

And when the repub coockslurp got up last week and said "If you don't support the mission, you don't support the troops", that was bullshit.   I support my local fire dept.  But if the fire chief was sending ten of them to their death every day fighting a massive tire fire they couldn't put out, and I criticized his plan for conquering the fire, does that mean i hate firefighters?

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2007, 09:41:40 AM »
I'm not going to discuss it with u

By all means, feel free not to post in any of my threads.  :)



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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2007, 09:49:02 AM »
U really get off on this don't u....having never served and having a lothing of our armed services..why don't u shut the hell up.

I agree.

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2007, 09:49:41 AM »
Nope..but I'm not going to discuss it with u..u have never served..u don't really know any of these guys..u have shown time and again u could care less about the US and its soldiers so please don't patronize me. As regards meltdown..dude I can't stand u..or perhaps more correctly ur position, so its not a meltdown when i respond to ur BS.

Left wingers care about the soldiers when it's advantageous to do so. If soldiers were getting killed in some non-wartime military exercise, these same lefties would be secretly cheering.

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2007, 09:49:47 AM »
I would but ur spreading abunch of BS so I feel somebody has to tell the truth.
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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2007, 09:50:28 AM »
I agree.

Whats up Beach..hows it going.
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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2007, 09:54:53 AM »
Left wingers care about the soldiers when it's advantageous to do so. If soldiers were getting killed in some non-wartime military exercise, these same lefties would be secretly cheering.

So you're saying some Liberals want soldiers to die? Reminds me of this post.

heres the thing i dont understand,, the vast majority of soldier deaths in iraq come from road bombs when your traveling between safer areas. i was in iraq working for a private company.. when we traveled we were provided with a bomb proof vest,, this vest could take a ied. problem was they are very expensive.. some soldiers dont even have the proper equipment, let alone a vest that can stop shrapnel from hitting your vital organs.. cant help but think that those war budjets that never pass might be for a reason

think about it,, soldiers without the proper equipment =more deaths.. if many can suggest that our government was responsible for 911, then i cant be too far off to think these people dont mind seeing a few extra dead soldiers to further their own cause

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2007, 09:56:20 AM »
I feel somebody has to tell the truth.

A noble endeavor.  However, it's going to cost you heroism points if you whine about the "BS" it exposes you to and whimper that I need to "shut the hell up".   :)

Admit it... "shut the hell up" = "I'm completely out of arguments".  :)

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2007, 09:59:19 AM »
Whats up Beach..hows it going.

It's all good major.   :)  Welcome home.  Thanks for your service.  How is Kansas?   

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2007, 09:59:59 AM »
So you're saying some Liberals want soldiers to die? Reminds me of this post.


Many elitist liberals view soldiers as redneck crackers.

To answer your question: Yes

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2007, 10:17:00 AM »
Many elitist liberals view soldiers as redneck crackers.

To answer your question: Yes

Well, at least you didn't shy away from answering the question.

Some soldiers are redneck crackers but I'm still not sure "many elitist liberals" actually want them to die.

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2007, 10:28:07 AM »
Left wingers care about the soldiers when it's advantageous to do so. If soldiers were getting killed in some non-wartime military exercise, these same lefties would be secretly cheering.

How would you know what left wingers think?

Rib is very extreme, but not indicative of left wingers in general.  Just my opinion

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2007, 10:29:12 AM »
How would you know what left wingers think?

Read Ribo's posts.  That was easy.   :)

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2007, 10:35:05 AM »
Read Ribo's posts.  That was easy.   :)

In fairness, I'm on the extreme left. The "lunatic fringe", if you like.  :)  I doubt I speak for the soccer-moms who will vote for Hillary in the primaries.

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2007, 10:37:21 AM »
Read Ribo's posts.  That was easy.   :)

Is RIB indicative of Liberals in general?

I think not.  I live in California Remember?  Very Close to Berkley!

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2007, 10:44:46 AM »
In fairness, I'm on the extreme left. The "lunatic fringe", if you like.  :)  I doubt I speak for the soccer-moms who will vote for Hillary in the primaries.

Who knew?   :D

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2007, 10:45:02 AM »
meltdown  :)

Why aren't you willing to condemn the shabby treatment of your brothers-in-arms? Are you really more loyal to the draft-dodging elitists in the White House than to them?

Ouch!  :-[

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2007, 10:46:58 AM »
Is RIB indicative of Liberals in general?

I think not.  I live in California Remember?  Very Close to Berkley!

Not necessarily.  You asked "How would you know what left wingers think?"  Interpreted that to mean extreme left.  Ribo is there, so is Jag, 240, a few others. 

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Re: Supporting the Troops: "Shut Up and Suffer"
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2007, 10:53:54 AM »
Not necessarily.  You asked "How would you know what left wingers think?"  Interpreted that to mean extreme left.  Ribo is there, so is Jag, 240, a few others. 


I don't interpret it that way but i can understand why you made the connection.

Jag is a Lib, Rib is more extreme, 240 is not in the same ball park as those 2, IMO.