Should steroids be illegal if someone dies from using them?

[gatomjp]

Should mountainclimbing be made illegal?

http://www.climbing.com/news/hotflashes/toddskinner/



Should auto racing be illegal?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/graphics/blearnhardt.htm



This one's a no brainer! Do we need a law to prevent this from happening again?

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2169415



College football outlawed?

http://chronicle.com/news/article/824/college-football-player-dies-on-training-camps-first-day



Cease horse jumping?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/10/11/obit.reeve/index.html



Another driver dead. They better slow down!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/26/sportsline/main1439592.shtml



No more marathons!!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0DE7D81231F930A35752C1A960948260



Just stay way from mountains altogether!!

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/3/3_6/runner-dies-during-1st-ha.shtml



And stay out of the water!

http://www.surfermag.com/features/pipedeath/



Take those skateboards away from the kids! Lock 'em up!

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1636088,00.html


Discuss...

[SAMSON123]

Should mountainclimbing be made illegal?

http://www.climbing.com/news/hotflashes/toddskinner/



Should auto racing be illegal?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/graphics/blearnhardt.htm



This one's a no brainer! Do we need a law to prevent this from happening again?

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2169415



College football outlawed?

http://chronicle.com/news/article/824/college-football-player-dies-on-training-camps-first-day



Cease horse jumping?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/10/11/obit.reeve/index.html



Another driver dead. They better slow down!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/26/sportsline/main1439592.shtml



No more marathons!!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0DE7D81231F930A35752C1A960948260



Just stay way from mountains altogether!!

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/3/3_6/runner-dies-during-1st-ha.shtml



And stay out of the water!

http://www.surfermag.com/features/pipedeath/



Take those skateboards away from the kids! Lock 'em up!

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1636088,00.html


Discuss...

You missed the biggest two drugs of all that kills the most people....ALCOHOL AND CIGARETTS.
If there is supposedly so much concern for ones health as it relates to STEROIDS and other hormone usage..then why are the two most DEADLY drugs still for sale, over the counter, in every store and state in the united states? How come these two killers are marketed like hell to every human being with eyes to see and ears to hear and yet NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING? All bullshit...politicians paid off to play deaf and be unresponsive to these dangers...FUCK 'EM I say...Do what you want it's your life...enjoy it.

[Fulgorre]

Life itself is inherently dangerous.  The news media has figured out creating a crisis out of nothing, by saying people are dying, keeps the ratings high and the money flowing in from advertisers.  Good to see many of you can see through this BS.

On that note, I'd like to add one item to our list.  Stairs!  They should be outlawed because innocent people, even children, fall down them and die.

[gatomjp]

Life itself is inherently dangerous.  The news media has figured out creating a crisis out of nothing, by saying people are dying, keeps the ratings high and the money flowing in from advertisers.  Good to see many of you can see through this BS.

On that note, I'd like to add one item to our list.  Stairs!  They should be outlawed because innocent people, even children, fall down them and die.

And knives! You could cut yourself! Or someone could stab you!

[Playboy]

You missed the biggest two drugs of all that kills the most people....ALCOHOL AND CIGARETTS.
If there is supposedly so much concern for ones health as it relates to STEROIDS and other hormone usage..then why are the two most DEADLY drugs still for sale, over the counter, in every store and state in the united states? How come these two killers are marketed like hell to every human being with eyes to see and ears to hear and yet NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING? All bullshit...politicians paid off to play deaf and be unresponsive to these dangers...FUCK 'EM I say...Do what you want it's your life...enjoy it.

I've been saying the same thing for months and months on this forum now but there's always some natural bbdg jackass that thinks they know more so i've given up. You can't teach a dog how to sing and dance. The general public is so uneducated and all they do is believe the media.

[Laura Lee]

And knives! You could cut yourself! Or someone could stab you!

Let's not forget hunting.  Cheney almost took out fellow hunter Harry Whittington in a single shot while hunting quail (and I don't mean ex-vp Dan Quayle, lol).

[hazbin]

anyone who dies from steroid abuse should be arrested and thrown in jail.

[tubduck]

Let's not forget hunting.  Cheney almost took out fellow hunter Harry Whittington in a single shot while hunting quail (and I don't mean ex-vp Dan Quayle, lol).

quack!!       

[sandpiper]

Should mountainclimbing be made illegal?

http://www.climbing.com/news/hotflashes/toddskinner/



Should auto racing be illegal?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/graphics/blearnhardt.htm



This one's a no brainer! Do we need a law to prevent this from happening again?

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2169415



College football outlawed?

http://chronicle.com/news/article/824/college-football-player-dies-on-training-camps-first-day



Cease horse jumping?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/10/11/obit.reeve/index.html



Another driver dead. They better slow down!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/26/sportsline/main1439592.shtml



No more marathons!!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0DE7D81231F930A35752C1A960948260



Just stay way from mountains altogether!!

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/3/3_6/runner-dies-during-1st-ha.shtml



And stay out of the water!

http://www.surfermag.com/features/pipedeath/



Take those skateboards away from the kids! Lock 'em up!

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1636088,00.html


Discuss...

does this constitute as a "Meltdown"  

[gatomjp]

anyone who dies from steroid abuse should be arrested and thrown in jail.

Why?

[gatomjp]

does this constitute as a "Meltdown"  

Ha ha! No, not really. I'm a documentary filmmaker and I was thinking about doing a piece on steroids perception and reality. Just doing some research and getting some opinions, is all. The misinformation and hypocrisy surrounding this topic is incredible!

[youandme]

Ha ha! No, not really. I'm a documentary filmmaker and I was thinking about doing a piece on steroids perception and reality. Just doing some research and getting some opinions, is all. The misinformation and hypocrisy surrounding this topic is incredible!

I understand your viewpoint, and your right when you compare the numbers, but wring when you compare pubic opinoun.

"Collect the masses of morons on your side and nothing is impossible"

[hazbin]

Why?

sarcasm dude!! how can they arrest and throw in jail a dead person???

[Playboy]

anyone who dies from steroid abuse should be arrested and thrown in jail.

Considering that they're dead it doesn't make sense.

[gatomjp]

sarcasm dude!! how can they arrest and throw in jail a dead person???

Oh! LOL! Sorry. Considering the mental level of some of the people who post here, I thought it was meant literally!!

[gatomjp]

...your right when you compare the numbers, but wring when you compare pubic opinoun...

How do you mean? Part of my objective is to see what the public opinon really is on this subject and then contrast it with the medical facts.

[BEAST 8692]

don't you juice monkeys know anything? lyle alzado died from aids for you bitches so that the laws could be changed to get you pansies out of the gym and smoking cigarettes like every other red blooded american.

so y'all quit that anarchist talk and be like the malboro man (he was a real man before he died from lung cancer).

besides, steroids don't do anything useful whereas smoking...ummmm.....JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND RESPECT YOUR LEADERS! god damn hippies.

Y'ALL SHOULD BE CONSCRIPTED TO IRAQ AND GET THEM THERE NUCLEAR BOMBS OUTTA THERE. DIE FOR YOUR COUNTRY YA GOD DAMN COMMIE PUPS!

[Colossus_1986]

How do you mean? Part of my objective is to see what the public opinon really is on this subject and then contrast it with the medical facts.

people are so dumb...they wanna see thrills.
in racing for example, the drivers go faster. it pleases fans. but nobody thinks to say, he could crash and kill spectators, and himself too.
a bodybuilder tries to better himself, to make improvements and impress fans, and also make a living, then he's criticized....
i say, if he's not hurting anyone, who gives a fuck?
suddenly these days everyone is so concerned with a stranger's health?!
"ooh dont take steroids! they're DANGEROUS!"

people will be always quick to point out "he takes steroids"...lol
so fuckin what! he looks amazing and worked hard to get there so what's your point?
-yah but steroids are bad....
-steroids are illeagal
-it's cheating...
the list of queer sissy responses is endless.

i say, do what you wanna do. today's world is all fucked up, so don't try and change the way people think.

you can botox and lipo (liposuction) your body all you want...
but you can't get "too big".....people will think you're on steroids,
so what? as if modifying your face with surgery is any better?
at least with steroids your body is 100% human flesh and not plastic, and silicone, and botox etc.

people are constantly blaming steroids for this and that....
meanwhile there are bigger problems in the world....
wars, terrorism, oil prices, gays getting married all over the place...
but still they find time to pinpoint Steroids in the media.

anyways...
up the dosage...and fuck the haters.
peace

[youandme]

How do you mean? Part of my objective is to see what the public opinon really is on this subject and then contrast it with the medical facts.

Right "Statistics", use your research to collide with popular folklore, with statistics you can prove anything. The bridge of exposing steroids as harmful is closing, more studies are coming out exposing them to be beneficial. I work on the other side of this line, talking about how they are bad, but every group needs a cheerleader for change.

[gatomjp]

people are so dumb...they wanna see thrills.
in racing for example, the drivers go faster. it pleases fans. but nobody thinks to say, he could crash and kill spectators, and himself too.
a bodybuilder tries to better himself, to make improvements and impress fans, and also make a living, then he's criticized....
i say, if he's not hurting anyone, who gives a fuck?
suddenly these days everyone is so concerned with a stranger's health?!
"ooh dont take steroids! they're DANGEROUS!"

people will be always quick to point out "he takes steroids"...lol
so fuckin what! he looks amazing and worked hard to get there so what's your point?
-yah but steroids are bad....
-steroids are illeagal
-it's cheating...
the list of queer sissy responses is endless.

i say, do what you wanna do. today's world is all fucked up, so don't try and change the way people think.

you can botox and lipo (liposuction) your body all you want...
but you can't get "too big".....people will think you're on steroids,
so what? as if modifying your face with surgery is any better?
at least with steroids your body is 100% human flesh and not plastic, and silicone, and botox etc.

people are constantly blaming steroids for this and that....
meanwhile there are bigger problems in the world....
wars, terrorism, oil prices, gays getting married all over the place...
but still they find time to pinpoint Steroids in the media.

anyways...
up the dosage...and fuck the haters.
peace

You are right on with much of your rant. Alot of what you are talking about is the hypocrisy that I was speaking of.

[gatomjp]

Right "Statistics", use your research to collide with popular folklore, with statistics you can prove anything. The bridge of exposing steroids as harmful is closing, more studies are coming out exposing them to be beneficial. I work on the other side of this line, talking about how they are bad, but every group needs a cheerleader for change.

Yes, we must be careful. I am aware that statistics can be manipulated. I am talking about finding long-term scientific studies, of which there are pitifully few, at this point.

So if you feel they are bad, which is a legitimate position to take, what are you basing your opinion on?

[Playboy]

people are so dumb...they wanna see thrills.
in racing for example, the drivers go faster. it pleases fans. but nobody thinks to say, he could crash and kill spectators, and himself too.
a bodybuilder tries to better himself, to make improvements and impress fans, and also make a living, then he's criticized....
i say, if he's not hurting anyone, who gives a fuck?
suddenly these days everyone is so concerned with a stranger's health?!
"ooh dont take steroids! they're DANGEROUS!"

people will be always quick to point out "he takes steroids"...lol
so fuckin what! he looks amazing and worked hard to get there so what's your point?
-yah but steroids are bad....
-steroids are illeagal
-it's cheating...
the list of queer sissy responses is endless.

i say, do what you wanna do. today's world is all fucked up, so don't try and change the way people think.

you can botox and lipo (liposuction) your body all you want...
but you can't get "too big".....people will think you're on steroids,
so what? as if modifying your face with surgery is any better?
at least with steroids your body is 100% human flesh and not plastic, and silicone, and botox etc.

people are constantly blaming steroids for this and that....
meanwhile there are bigger problems in the world....
wars, terrorism, oil prices, gays getting married all over the place...
but still they find time to pinpoint Steroids in the media.

anyways...
up the dosage...and fuck the haters.
peace

This post is spot on. Fucking right! Excellent post and great examples too!

[hazbin]

one point that is always missed, is that steroids vary in toxicity and effect from pretty much benign to fairly toxic. as for dosage, users can vary from less than therapeutic dose to near suicide levels. some people use 100 times the recommended dose of many drugs at once. these extremests usually add narcotics, sleep meds, and party drugs to the cocktail. now of those at the highest levels of multiple abuse, only a fraction of them have any serious health scares. and most of those are transient in nature. (they go away after a few weeks or months cessation of use}.


to label all steroid users together would be like calling you grandmother a morphine addict if she took an aspirin for a headache. taken properly with proper nutrition and a otherwise healthy lifestyle 99 percent of people could expect nearly zero side effects. and any that occur were probably a genetic predisposition that was accellerated by the use.

[BEAST 8692]

i can prove anything with statistics EXCEPT the truth.

btw, colossus, i agree with your point, but believe me, it has nothing to do with concern for health. if the government was concerned for people's health, smoking (which kills billions of people every year) would be illegal.

funny how, even with their best spin doctors, they can't attribute one single death to be caused by steroids yet they will deprive you of your liberty if you take them whilst at the same time make millions profiteering from dealing the deadliest drug of all time, nicotine.

i will pay pal anyone $50 000.00 u.s if they can explain to me how any drug dealer in the world (do your worst - cartels, triads, mafia,...) not only permits but profits from more suffering and death than your own government?

you can't and you won't, but it certainly puts into perspective the hypocrisy and evil that governs.

[Max_Rep]

You missed the biggest two drugs of all that kills the most people....ALCOHOL AND CIGARETTS.
If there is supposedly so much concern for ones health as it relates to STEROIDS and other hormone usage..then why are the two most DEADLY drugs still for sale, over the counter, in every store and state in the united states? How come these two killers are marketed like hell to every human being with eyes to see and ears to hear and yet NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING? All bullshit...politicians paid off to play deaf and be unresponsive to these dangers...FUCK 'EM I say...Do what you want it's your life...enjoy it.

Don’t forget sugar, animal fat and lard. I mean if they were really concerned about health they would close down every McDonald’s, 7-11, Taco Bell and Krispy Cream within 2 miles of every school in the Country!