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Increasing Bench
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:55:19 PM »
Hey guys im lookin to strengthen my bench any tips on how to add atleast 20lbs??

Any suggestions would be appreciated
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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2008, 04:58:35 AM »
Hey guys im lookin to strengthen my bench any tips on how to add atleast 20lbs??

Any suggestions would be appreciated

There is a thread in the powerlifting board about exercises to increase bench press. Try checking that out. Also, how long have you been training and what is your bw? A 20lb increase can be a huge  amount or not so hard to achieve, depending on the situation

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2008, 07:55:35 AM »
 heavy negatives....

load up 1.5 your 1 rep max... you perform the eccentric portion (lower the weight), then someone else performs the concentrect protion (pushing it back up) and then you loweer it again... repeat this as many times as you can...

lets you get use to feeling the weight and your strength should shoot up

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2008, 08:47:39 AM »
Also form form form, you need to stop thinking like a bodybuilder, and start thinking like a powerlifter. At least for a little while

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2008, 09:24:51 AM »
Load that 20 lbs you want to get to (example: if doing 220 for 1 good rep that add the 20 to make it 240) and preform half  reps with it to lockout. After doing as many  reps that way, add 20 lbs more and do quarter reps to lockout. When done with that, add 30 more lbs and do 1/8 reps to lockout. Finally take a weight that you normally do 5 reps from the chest position and see how many complete rep's you can do.

This is all geared to set up your motor units to adjust to and fire off using a much heavier workload. You want your muscles to adapt and progress from that heavier workload. And they will. Good Luck.

Side Bar: it would help greatly if you had a Power Rack. Use a Smith machine if no PR. As a last resort, get 2 bud's (one will not be enough for safety factors) to help you into bar position.
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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2008, 09:28:23 AM »
Hey guys im lookin to strengthen my bench any tips on how to add atleast 20lbs??

Any suggestions would be appreciated

Dbol, test, tren - choice is yours.

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2008, 03:30:36 PM »
Ihave been training about 5 years seriously now bw is 218 not leaned out probably about 180 lean,

JPM couldnt that be dangerous for tendons?

I mean sounds like solid advice im just wondering how dangerous that could actually be.
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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2008, 03:34:10 PM »
 take deca with your test and it will be just fine for your tendons  :D

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2008, 04:47:15 PM »
Hey guys im lookin to strengthen my bench any tips on how to add atleast 20lbs??

Any suggestions would be appreciated

bench shirt  :D

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2008, 05:01:04 PM »
bench shirt  :D
He said 20lbs not 200lbs. ;D
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2008, 10:55:52 PM »
Guys im not looking to gear up just yet. Just looking to make some solid strength gains at this point
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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2008, 11:00:39 PM »
Guys im not looking to gear up just yet. Just looking to make some solid strength gains at this point

They're just kidding you.  Lighten up.

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2008, 11:09:34 PM »
I know lol was just sayin thats not what im lookin for, i just get frustrated with getting stuck on plateus man it sucks.
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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2008, 11:20:09 PM »
get a spotter and do those heavy negatives.

and also make sure your diets in line

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create your own natural hormones through training and diet geared toward test+gh production

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2008, 06:57:05 AM »
An article I wrote for bb.com:

How To Increase Your Bench Press-A Short Term Plan!
By: Tim Wescott


In this article I am going to outline a simple, but effective short term plan, that will enable you to add some pretty impressive weight to your bench press in a relatively short period of time. I have used this training protocol for many years, at various times, when I needed to add some poundage to my benching. So far, it has never failed me!

First of all, let me say that while performing bench presses, you should always use a spotter, for safety's sake. Too many people get hurt every year, for attempting to go too heavy without a spot.

Play it safe, and don't be shy, or afraid to ask for a spot if you train alone... you will not regret it, as rolling a heavy weight down the ribcage to the thighs, and then sitting up with the weight in your lap, can leave some pretty mean tracks!!

The basic premise of the routine is progressive overload, meaning that every week you are putting greater amounts of stress on the muscles used in bench pressing. You do this by adding small amounts of weight to the bar on a weekly basis.

This progressive overload forces the body to grow so it can adapt to the ever increasing amount of stress you are creating weekly - even though you are not quite training to failure, except for on the last few sets (in most cases anyway) - if, of course you are performing the routine correctly.

When benching the eyes should be right below the bar, shoulder blades squeezed together, chest held high, and inflated, a slightly arched back, and feet should be placed firmly on the floor. This will give you a good base of power to push off from.

Slowly bring the bar down to nipple level, touching the chest, and "Hyper explode" pushing the bar upward and backward in kind of a small arc.

Of course where you touch your chest with the bar will vary from person to person...the key is to just make sure it feels natural, and doesn't place too much unwanted stress on the shoulders.


How It Works:

There are no fancy formulas, graphs or charts involved in this setup, it's just 5 sets of 5 reps on the bench press... after a warm-up set or two to avoid injury, and to prepare the body for the heavier sets to follow.

Effective Progression:
 
The whole key to doing this program effectively, is to start out with a much lighter weight than you would normally use for benching.

For example, if you can bench press 225 pounds for a hard set of 5 reps, then you should start the program using only 185 pounds for the 5 sets of 5 reps.

The reasons for this are, that if you let your ego take over and begin the program using a weight that is too heavy, you will plateau, or burn out very quickly, and using the lighter weights to start with, will help you to perfect your form, while increasing poundage weekly.    

End result, heavier reps with textbook form, which is imperative if you want to avoid injury, and work the target muscles involved in performing the exercise.

OK, lets assume that you begin the program using 185 pounds, this is all hypothetical, but no matter what you are benching presently, start off using considerably less weight. This is very important for long term progress, and to make this program work effectively for you.

If you do all 5 sets of 5 reps with the 185 pounds, then you will add 5 pounds to the bar the next time you bench.

You should only be benching once a week, and although the first few weeks will feel easy for you, by the time you get to week #3 or 4 you will be hard pressed to get all the reps on the latter sets.

That is 2 1/2 pounds to each side of the bar just to clarify!!

You keep adding this 5 total pounds weekly, until you hit a sticking point and begin to plateau.

If at any time you do not complete all of the sets and reps, stay at this weight until you succeed, then continue on by adding the 5 pounds on the following bench day, after you have succeeded with the weight that gave you trouble.

Warming Up:
 
Warm-up sufficiently by doing a lighter set or two, but do not overextend yourself on these sets... just make sure it prepares you for the heavier 5 work sets to come later.

Obviously, if you are benching in the neighborhood of 300-400 pounds for sets of 5 reps, you will have to do progressive jumps in poundage to warm-up good enough, but still, do not go overboard. Try to save power for the hard stuff!

After a time, you will eventually hit a wall, and will be able to progress no further, just as you would on any program. This is where I recommend warming up, and performing either 3 sets of 3 reps or, 5 sets of 3 reps....... with a heavier poundage of course.

I personally would recommend opting for the former scenario for most trainees, but if you can handle 5 sets, then by all means go for it!!

You'll soon be repping out with way more weight in no time flat.

Remember to throw away your ego, and to intentionally start out with lighter weights - I can't stress the importance of this strongly enough.


Assistance Exercises:
 
Good assistance exercises to use are barbell inclines, and weighted parallel bar dips, along with some lat work, and tricep training to aid in pushing power.

A good exercise to help strengthen the front deltoid (which is heavily involved during benching), is to do front raises while holding an Olympic plate (to face level only is sufficient) using two hands.

Jim Williams, who was one of the first men to bench press 700 pounds, did a lot of these "plate raises," and this was in the 1970's (long before bench shirts were invented).

You can also do this type of training regimen using any one of the big compound exercises or a combination of a few at a time. It works great on squats, deadlifts, barbell rows, inclines, etc. etc.


Conclusion:
 
give it a shot !! I've added 20-30 pounds to my bench in 8-12 weeks at various times using this system!!

STAY PUMPED!

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2008, 06:21:36 PM »
conjugate method..learn it

find out what your weak areas are in your bench... and strengthen them...

learn to bench PROPERLY..not this bodybuilding style of shit.. learn to bench with the most efficient and fluid way possible.


when your back, delts, abs, arms, legs, etc. get stronger... the easier it is to bench. If you don't think all those are involved in benching you're kidding yourself..

eat..make sure you're recovery properly after each workout no matter what it is...

I could go on all night..

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2008, 09:45:04 PM »
Yeah wicked i know that basically every other body part is included in bench ( You can feel it )

Im just lookin for some good tips on increaseing poundage bro
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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2008, 09:59:36 PM »
Yeah wicked i know that basically every other body part is included in bench ( You can feel it )

Im just lookin for some good tips on increaseing poundage bro

I think you missed perhaps the most important part of what wicked said: "learn to bench PROPERLY".  It's not just a matter of benching "properly" to get better poundages, it's (in the end) about keeping yourself as injury-free as possible.  Because if you get a serious injury--and the serious ones usually creep up on you over the years, without you realizing it until it happens--you can kiss benching goodbye for good, or at least something you'd consider a decent poundage.  You're probably thinking, "Yeah, sure, ok, I know how to bench."  But odds are, you can always use improvement.  Practice a lot with light weights, or no weights, on the bar.  Bench that way, focusing closely on your technique with all your concentration, until it becomes second nature to you, almost like walking or riding a bike.  Get rid of the ego for the time being.  I say that, because if you're looking to increase your bench by 20 lbs "soon", chances are safety may not be your top priority right now.  Anyway, I hope that doesn't sound too patronizing! 8)

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2008, 10:16:25 PM »
i agree good form is essential when going heavy.. and ALOT of guys have shitty bp form even when going light... bouncing it off their chest, rolling their shoulders forward, bringing their ass way off the bench..

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2008, 05:49:54 AM »
bounce the bar on your chest

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2008, 10:10:22 AM »
Panda i didnt say that i didnt agree with what wicked said about benching properly i was just saying that i knew what he was talking about already, And as far as the ego goes if i had this ego i wouldnt be asking for help in the first place

( NOT trying to sound cocky just letting you guys know )

Safety is a concern i try and use the best possible form making sure to go as strict on the entire movement as possible ( Not leaning to one side or the other and not throwing the weight off my chest Etc.
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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2008, 09:37:51 AM »
Heavy negatives like someone mentioned before is great for strength very underestimated if you ask me
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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2008, 09:54:07 AM »
negatives, greasing the groove (benching 3-5 times per week...very low volume per workout..and never to failure), ladders, close grip bench presses, lock outs, partial reps, shoulder presses, strong lats, using a closer grip when benching, chains, 3x3, heavy singles, dont go to failure all the time, bench twice a week, speed work, eat more food, rest pause, get fat, bench technique, very high volume (inorder to practice the bench movement), boards, drugs, periodization etc etc

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2008, 09:55:42 AM »
Heavy negatives like someone mentioned before is great for strength very underestimated if you ask me
Yup negatives, partials in various portions of ROM, spotter or rack's essential, chains along with what was mentioned in that article. Try all of that over time. Big believer in going to failure, it's a necessary part of overload just like using more weight.

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Re: Increasing Bench
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2008, 05:09:12 PM »
Yup negatives, partials in various portions of ROM, spotter or rack's essential, chains along with what was mentioned in that article. Try all of that over time. Big believer in going to failure, it's a necessary part of overload just like using more weight.

no its not. yes, it probably gives a bigger 'anabolic signal' in the short term..but it has to be weighed against recovery etc. one example is if your a powerlifter you seldom seek out failure...because frequency and volume tend to go to shit.

can failure training be used, for sure..but shouldnt be used all the time and it depends on how you set up your training routine.