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« Reply #100 on: October 24, 2011, 05:08:30 AM »
Libya’s transitional leader declares liberation, sets Islamist tone for future
Washington Post ^ | 10/23/11 | Associated Press



Tripoli, Libya - Libya’s interim rulers declared the country liberated on Sunday after an eight-month civil war, launching the oil-rich nation on what is meant to be a two-year transition to democracy. But they laid out plans with an Islamist tone that could rattle their Western backers.


The joyful ceremony formally marking the end of Moammar Gadhafi’s 42-year tyranny was also clouded by mounting pressure from the leaders of the NATO campaign that helped secure victory to investigate whether Gadhafi, dragged wounded but alive out of a drainage ditch last week, was then executed by his captors.

The circumstances of Gadhafi’s death remain unclear. In any case, critics said the gruesome spectacle of his blood-streaked body laid out as a trophy for a third day of public viewing in a commercial freezer tests the new leadership’s commitment to the rule of law. (Snip)

Gadhafi’s capture and the fall of his hometown of Sirte, the last loyalist stronghold, set the stage for the long-awaited declaration of liberation, delivered by the head of the National Transitional Council, Mustafa Abdul-Jalil.

He did not mention the circumstances surrounding Gadhafi’s death — mobile phone videos showed the wounded leader being taunted and beaten by a mob after his capture. But he urged his people to eschew hatred.

“You should only embrace honesty, patience, and mercy,” Abdul-Jalil told a flag-waving crowd of several thousand at the declaration ceremony in the eastern city of Benghazi, the birthplace of the uprising against Gadhafi.

Abdul-Jalil laid out a vision for a new Libya with an Islamist tint, saying Islamic Sharia law would be the “basic source” of legislation, and that existing laws that contradict the teachings of Islam would be nullified.


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« Reply #101 on: October 24, 2011, 05:13:52 AM »
..Gaddafi still on show, rotting as wrangling goes on
By Rania El Gamal | Reuters –






MISRATA, Libya (Reuters) - Libyans filed past Muammar Gaddafi's decomposing body for a fourth day on Monday, keen to see for themselves that the fallen strongman was dead, while talks dragged on among emerging local factions over disposing of the corpse.

Fighters guarding the darkening body and those of Gaddafi's son Mo'tassim and his former army chief had placed plastic sheeting under them as fluids leaked into the market cold store in Misrata, where they had been taken after their capture and killing in Gaddafi's home town of Sirte on Thursday.

With the door constantly opening to allow a procession of onlookers, in a grim parody of the lying in state typically accorded to deceased leaders, the refrigeration unit was failing to prevent a rapid decomposition and guards handed out surgical face masks to visitors to shield them from the stench.

Gaddafi and his son died after being captured, wounded but alive -- some of their final moments captured on video.

But few Libyans are troubled about either how they were killed or why they are being kept exposed to public view for so long. Islamic tradition dictates burial within a day.

"God made the pharaoh as an example to the others," said Salem Shaka, visiting the bodies on Monday. "If he had been a good man, we would have buried him.

"But he chose this destiny for himself."

Another man, who said he had driven 400 km (250 miles) to see the bodies, said: "I came here to make sure with my own eyes ... All Libyans must see him."

The killing of fallen autocrats is far from a novelty -- in Europe in living memory, similar fates befell Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania in 1989 and Benito Mussolini, who had created modern Libya as an Italian colony a decade before he died in 1945.

However, some of the anti-Gaddafi rebels' foreign allies have expressed disquiet about the treatment of Gaddafi both after his capture and after his death and worry that Libya's new leaders will not uphold their promise to respect human rights.

The burials have been held up by wrangling between the emerging factions within the National Transitional Council over where they should be interred. NTC leaders want Gaddafi buried at a secret location so the place does not become a shrine.

Gaddafi's tribe centered around the city of Sirte where he made his last stand has asked for the body so they can bury it there. Gaddafi requested to be buried in Sirte in his will.

"There are different views," said an NTC official in Misrata. "Some people want them buried in the invaders' cemetery in Misrata," he said, referring to a place outside the city near the sea where hundreds of fallen Gaddafi fighters have been buried with some dignity and respect.

"Some people want to hand them over to his tribe, but we have some demands. Many people have been kidnapped and killed by people in Sirte since the 1980s. We asked them to give those bodies back. Since then they have been quiet," said the official who asked not to be named.

(Writing by Jon Hemming; Editing by Louise Ireland and Alastair Macdonald)

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« Reply #103 on: October 24, 2011, 05:51:24 AM »
Early sign in Tunisia of strong Islamist vote
Yahoo/AP ^ | 10/24/11 | PAUL SCHEMM




TUNIS, Tunisia (AP) — Tunisian authorities counted votes Monday in carefully watched elections, with early signs that a once-banned Islamist party is leading in many constituencies in the country that unleashed uprisings across the Arab world.

Tunisia was known for decades for its repressive leadership but also for its progressive legislation on women and families, which secular-leaning Tunisians fear the moderate Islamist party Ennahda would roll back if it takes a commanding number of seats in the new assembly being created by Sunday's elections.

Ennahda believes that Islam should be the reference point for the country's system and laws but maintains that it will respect women's rights and is committed to democracy and working with other parties.

"During the campaign the Islamist party was quite disciplined in saying they will protect human rights, they will protect the rights of women and maintain equality, but in fact this is an open question," said Ricky Goldstein who observed the elections for the New York-based Human Rights Watch. "Their discourse in some areas was vague and ambiguous."


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« Reply #107 on: October 24, 2011, 10:03:40 AM »
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« Reply #108 on: October 24, 2011, 10:08:24 AM »
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« Reply #109 on: October 24, 2011, 10:19:05 AM »
Go side with those anomials you douchebag, very fitting for you.   

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« Reply #110 on: October 24, 2011, 10:25:41 AM »
WTF are you blaming obama because - in the midst of a civil war - some bad guys killed some other bad guys?

jeebus, yall got soft on terror the minute obama got hard on it.

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« Reply #111 on: October 24, 2011, 10:30:35 AM »
WTF are you blaming obama because - in the midst of a civil war - some bad guys killed some other bad guys?

jeebus, yall got soft on terror the minute obama got hard on it.

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF 3333 CONTINUES...Ghadafi dead and defeated
« Reply #114 on: October 24, 2011, 11:38:36 AM »
let's all shed a tear for kadaffi. 

No, just not cheering the substitution for one set of criminals for an even worse set of animals.   

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Obama’s Libyan Disaster
FrontPageMag.com ^ | 24 Oct 2011 | Bruce Thornton
Posted on October 24, 2011 10:36:22 AM EDT by LSUfan

Anyone who believes that NATO’s overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi is a “success” for President Obama’s foreign policy should listen to the speech of Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, the chairman of the National Transitional Council, at the “liberation day” celebrations in Benghazi: “We are an Islamic country,” the de facto president of Libya proclaimed to the crowds shouting “Allahu Akbar.” “We take the Islamic religion as the core of our new government. The constitution will be based on our Islamic religion.”

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Fuel depot blast 'kills 100' in Libya's Sirte
AFP via Yahoo ^ | October 25th 2011 | AFP Staff
Posted on October 25, 2011 5:22:04 AM EDT by Cardhu

A fuel tank exploded in Moamer Kadhafi's hometown Sirte killing more than 100 people less than a week after the deposed despot was captured and killed there, a military commander said on Tuesday.

"There was an enormous explosion and a huge fire. More than 100 people were killed and 50 others wounded" in Monday night's blast, National Transitional Council commander Leith Mohammed told AFP.

He said the scene was "a heart wrenching spectacle with dozens of charred bodies."

The explosion happened as a crowd of people waited near the fuel tank to fill up their cars.

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF 3333 CONTINUES...Ghadafi dead and defeated
« Reply #117 on: October 25, 2011, 04:18:50 AM »
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In Libya, Massacre Site Is Cleaned Up, Not Investigated
   

 
By KAREEM FAHIM and ADAM NOSSITER
Published: October 24, 2011

SURT, Libya — In the parched garden of the Mahari Hotel, volunteers on Monday scrubbed signs of a recent massacre. They collected dozens of bodies, apparently of people executed on the hotel grounds several days ago, but left other evidence behind, like the plastic ties that were used to bind the hands of victims and shell casings, scattered on the dead grass in patches of blood.

The volunteers said the victims included at least two former Qaddafi government officials, local loyalist fighters and maybe civilians. The killers, they believed, were former rebel fighters, belonging to anti-Qaddafi units that had used the hotel as a base in recent weeks. It appeared to be one of the worst massacres of the eight-month conflict, but days after it occurred, no one from Libya’s new government had come to investigate.

The interim leaders, who declared the country liberated on Sunday, may simply have their hands full with the responsibilities that come with running a state. But throughout the Libyan conflict, they have also shown themselves to be unwilling or incapable of looking into accusations of atrocities by their fighters, despite repeated pledges not to tolerate abuse.

The lack of control came into sharp focus last week, when former rebel fighters arrested Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi. In videos of the capture on Thursday morning, victorious fighters were shown manhandling Colonel Qaddafi, who appeared to be bleeding and distressed but conscious. This was moments after he was pulled from a large drainage pipe where he had hidden after a NATO air assault destroyed part of his convoy. Subsequent video shows his bruised corpse, with at least one bullet wound to the head.

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF 3333 CONTINUES...Ghadafi dead and defeated
« Reply #118 on: October 25, 2011, 04:19:14 AM »
was this fuel depot explosion an act of terrorism?

and if so, was it just the remnants of the pro-kadaffi froces in their last throes?

or do you predict this will turn into post-saddam iraq?  What say you, 333386?

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« Reply #119 on: October 25, 2011, 08:47:08 AM »
Jewish World Review Oct 25, 2011 / 27 Tishrei, 5772

Who lost the world? Obama has paved the way for an explosive era

By Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.

 
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Conventional wisdom has it that the 2012 presidential election will be all about the dismal economy, unemployment and the soaring deficit. That appears a safe bet because such matters touch the electorate, are much in the news at the moment and have indisputably become worse on Barack Obama's watch.

It seems increasingly likely, however, that the American people will have a whole lot more to worry about by next fall. Indeed, the way things are going, by November 2012, we may see the Middle East - and perhaps other parts of the planet - plunged into a cataclysmic war.

Consider just a few of the straws in the wind of a gathering storm:

• Moammar Gadhafi's death last week prompted the Obama administration to trumpet the president's competence as commander in chief and the superiority of his "small footprint," "lead-from-behind" approach to waging war over the more traditional - and costly and messy - one pursued by George W. Bush. The bloom came off that false rose on Sunday when Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, chairman of the National Transitional Council, repeatedly declared his government's fealty to Shariah, Islam's brutally repressive, totalitarian political-military-legal doctrine.

Among other things, Mr. Abdul-Jalil said Shariah would be the "basic source" of all legislation. Translation: Forget about representative democracy. Under Shariah, Allah - not man - makes the laws.

In short, the result of Mr. Obama's $2 billion expenditure to oust Gadhafi is a regime that will be led by jihadists, controls vast oil reserves and has inherited a very substantial arsenal (although some of it - including reportedly as many as 20,000 surface-to-air missiles - has "gone missing"). This scarcely can be considered a victory for the United States and probably will prove a grave liability.

• An Islamist party called Ennahda seems likely to have captured the lion's share of the votes cast in the first free election in Tunisia. Although we are assured it is a "moderate" religious party, the same has long been said of Turkey's governing AKP party. Unfortunately, we have lately seen the latter's true colors as it has become ever more insistent at home on jettisoning the secular form of government handed down by Mustafa Kemal Attaturk and acted ever more aggressively abroad. A similar transformation can be expected, later if not sooner, of any Shariah-adherent political movement.

• In Egypt, meanwhile, the agenda of the Islamists' mother ship - the Muslim Brotherhood - is being adopted even before elections formally bring it to power. The interim military government has abetted efforts to punish and even kill the Coptic Christian minority. It has facilitated the arming of the Brotherhood's franchise in Gaza and allowed the Sinai to become the launching pad for al Qaeda and others' attacks on Israel.

Egypt's transitional regime also helped broker the odious exchange of more than 1,000 convicted terrorists held by Israel for a single soldier kidnapped and held hostage for five years by Hamas. Upon their release, the convicts with Jewish blood on their hands received heroes' welcomes even as they affirmed their desire to destroy Israel and called for the seizure of still more Israelis to spring their comrades still behind bars. This does not augur well for either the Jewish state or for our interests.

• The increasingly mercurial Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, has announced that - despite the long-running, immensely costly and ongoing U.S. effort to protect his kleptocratic government - in a war between Pakistan and the United States, Afghanistan would side with Pakistan. The magnitude of this insulting repudiation of America is all the greater since Pakistan is widely seen as doing everything it can to re-establish the Taliban in Kabul.

In Iraq, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has touted his success in thwarting Washington's belated (and halfhearted) efforts to keep a significant number of U.S. forces in his country after the end of this year. His coalition partner and fellow Iranian cat's paw, Muqtada al-Sadr, already is boasting that he also will drive out the American contractor personnel who are, for the moment, expected to provide a measure of security after the military withdraws. In that case, we may well see the mullahs' agents take over a U.S. embassy for the second time since 1979 - this one the newest, largest and most expensive in the world.

Add to this litany an emboldened and ascendant China, a revanchist Russia once again under the absolute control of Vladimir Putin, a Mexico free-falling into civil war with narcotraffickers and their Hezbollah allies on our southern border and you get a world that is fraught with peril for the United States. Matters are made infinitely worse by the prospect of reckless budget cuts hollowing out the U.S. military.

The Republican candidates to succeed Mr. Obama are beginning to find their voices on the national security portfolio. They will be formally debating the president's sorry record in coming weeks. The question the American people will want answered is not only "Who lost the world?" but what they will do to get it back.


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« Reply #120 on: October 26, 2011, 05:33:00 AM »
Signs of Executions Mar Libya Peace
WSJ ^ | OCTOBER 25, 2011 | MARGARET COKER




TRIPOLI, Libya—Fresh evidence has emerged that fighters battling for control of Moammar Gadhafi's hometown of Sirte were responsible for numerous extrajudicial killings and other possible atrocities, raising new questions about the final moments in Libya's revolution and adding to the challenges of national reconciliation.

Residents of Sirte and medical workers say that they have identified dozens of corpses of both Gadhafi loyalists and antiregime fighters, who appear to have died by shots to the back of the head while their hands were bound.

They say these bodies are among hundreds of unidentified corpses littering the streets of Sirte and filling the hospital morgues.

The news of possible atrocities during the final battle of the eight-month war to oust Gadhafi comes as controversy has swirled about the death of the former leader on Thursday. Gadhafi was captured alive in Sirte but later died in custody of fighters from Misrata, who were leading the military operation to seize control of the city.

The head of Libya's interim governing authority, the National Transitional Council, said Monday that he had ordered a full investigation into Gadhafi's death.

While few Libyans are bothered with the legal issues surrounding the last moments of their former leader, the emerging details of brutality in Sirte could have consequences for the transition to democracy.


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« Reply #121 on: October 26, 2011, 10:16:07 AM »
The Face of the New Libya, Pt II – Lies and proof of atrocities grow
Flopping Aces ^ | 10-26-11 | Mataharley

Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:11:08 AM by Starman417



Love and praise for Gaddafi's killer
To tag team Dr. John's first documentation on the "face of the new Libya", it seems more of the world is waking up that the new face may likely surpass the old face in ugliness and human rights violations.

It was just three days ago that Libyan rebel forces claimed they had captured Gadhafi's son and heir-apparent, Saif al-Islam, alive. In the flurry of truly stupid "Libyan freedom fighters" videos, capturing their war crimes and disregard for what the west would consider freedom and justice on their various new media, most bloggers were already hitting the bandwith with tongue in cheek estimates, likening al-Islam's anticipated lifespan in the hands of the rebels to that of a gnat.

But war crimes are not the only apparent face of the new Libya, as it turns out lying is another of their less than impressive traits. CBS News reports that not only is al-Islam alive, but fleeing Libya for parts unknown in Nigeria. This isn't the first time that the rebels have put forth false testimony and propaganda of their progress, prematurely declaring victory more than once over the months and claiming custody when there was none.

Not unlike the dictator, there are still questions about the events leading to the the capture of yet another of Gaddafi's sons, Mutassim Gaddafi, just a little over a week ago. Mutassim's fate eerily echoes that of his father's when shown in a video first as alive, and smoking a cigarette in custody... then mysteriously is dead from bullet wounds to the abdomen and neck. The rebels were, again, busy with their cell phone videos.

But while westerners set aside their normal respect for rule of law and justice, gleefully rejoicing in a particularly bloody end, the arguments some of us have been making about this "new and improved" Libya looking suspiciously like (if not worse) than the old Libya, is gaining traction as more proof surfaces supporting the the Libyan rebels committed war atrocities.

This goes far beyond just Gaddafi, as mass graves with hundreds of bodes are excavated... the count approx 300 in one alone at this writing.. many with their hands bound behind their backs, executed.

Ali Tarhouni of the National Transitional Council excuses the rebels as young boys who had witnessed murders of family and friends, and praised their "self control". Hey.. you can't make this stuff up.


Another graveyard of over 575 is supposed to contain "mercenaries"... many also summarily executed.

This is, of course, the so called "freedom fighters" to whom the French openly supplied arms. The same group who, today, Hillary calls on the UN for war crimes investigations, but was also responsible for paving the way for the US to also supply arms. If America did, they sure aren't disclosing that today.



Obama talks to Leno about Libya 10-25-11
This didn't stop the non-stop campaigner-in-chief, Obama, from calling Libya "... a recipe for success" on Jay Leno. Instead, the POTUS seemed detached from the less than freedom like behavior of the vigilante mobs and their multiple executions in warfare.

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF 3333 CONTINUES...Ghadafi dead and defeated
« Reply #122 on: October 26, 2011, 10:18:02 AM »
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« Reply #123 on: October 26, 2011, 10:24:16 AM »
"Another graveyard of over 575 is supposed to contain "mercenaries"... many also summarily executed. "

Let's get this clear...

Kadaffi used the money of his people to import foreign african fighters, who came in and killed libyans indiscriminantly.  They were paid very well, and vowed to fight for him until the end.  Had they won, they would have been Kadaffi's own loyal army of killers forever.  but they lost.  And they were killed by the winners.  They would have killed the losers, had they won, and they almost did.

So they took a risk, they lost, and they were killed in a civil war they only entered for profit$$$. 

And we're crying for them now?  come on.

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« Reply #124 on: October 26, 2011, 11:10:06 AM »
Wonderful use of our tax dollars.