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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #175 on: May 18, 2012, 06:15:37 PM »
He had no choice. Biden spilled the beans. Besides, the ordering of the Justice Department not to enforce DOMA and the attempt to force chaplains to perform gay "marriage" ceremonies were a few subtle hints.

BTW, add Rev. Wright to the list of bus-flattened people.

btw -if you believe he had no choice than how can it be "all about the money"

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #176 on: May 18, 2012, 06:18:50 PM »
Its a direct contradiction to what you believe.

He believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, as do I. And, he believes that Christ died for our sins and to redeem mankind as do I.

Do all of our doctrinal philosophies match? NO! I never claimed they did.

But, enough of them match in the major social and political issues, for me to pick him over that goof Obama, any day of the week.

Romney wasn't my favorite of the GOP field. But, he is the survivor (and soon-to-be winner). I'm casting my vote for him, because we literally and figuratively can't afford anymore of Obama's foolishness.




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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #177 on: May 18, 2012, 06:21:10 PM »
btw -if you believe he had no choice than how can it be "all about the money"

Biden got his rump chewed for spilling the beans, because the plan was for him to keep "winking and nodding", until shortly before or after the election.

Plus, it didn't help that his press secretary keep citing his previous views on the matter.

As I said, he's way behind in his fundraising and I cited the article to support that. Not to mention that at least a sixth of his campaign bundlers are gay.

Plus, I listed multiple reasons for his convenient "evolution".

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #178 on: May 18, 2012, 06:25:56 PM »
Brown did no such thing . He changed it, hoping to swing the election but failed to do so.

And, the agenda is hardly deceptive. It's spelled out in no uncertain terms. That may be among the reasons that gay "marriage" supporters are 0-32 at the ballot box. And, after this election, they'll likely be 0-35.

why is that fundies can lie so easily

Isn't lying still considered a sin?

this goes back again to how you fundies need deception to promote you agenda of forcing others to adopt your beliefs.

the really hilarious part is that title of the ballot came VERBATIM from the text of the measure

Basically you're objecting to having the title reflect the very words in text

This is a perfect example of how religious freaks need to use deception in order to trick the public into passing their bullshit

Why is that the more relgious someone is the more it seems they are ok with lying and deception ?

from Wiki (but not necessary for me since I remember it when it happened and have religious reason to pretend otherwise)

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Proponents of the measure objected to the wording of the ballot title and summary on the grounds that they were argumentative and prejudicial. The resulting legal petition Jansson v. Bowen[25] was dismissed August 7, 2008, by California Superior Court Judge Timothy M. Frawley, who ruled that "the title and summary includes an essentially verbatim recital of the text of the measure itself",[26] and that the change was valid because the measure did, in fact, eliminate a right upheld by the California Supreme Court.

California Attorney General Jerry Brown explained that the changes were required to more "accurately reflect the measure" in light of the California Supreme Court's intervening In re Marriage Cases decision.[27]

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #179 on: May 18, 2012, 08:11:09 PM »
why is that fundies can lie so easily

Isn't lying still considered a sin?

this goes back again to how you fundies need deception to promote you agenda of forcing others to adopt your beliefs.

the really hilarious part is that title of the ballot came VERBATIM from the text of the measure

Basically you're objecting to having the title reflect the very words in text

This is a perfect example of how religious freaks need to use deception in order to trick the public into passing their bullshit

Why is that the more relgious someone is the more it seems they are ok with lying and deception ?

from Wiki (but not necessary for me since I remember it when it happened and have religious reason to pretend otherwise)


Wrong, Straw.

The title was plain and simple. In fact, it had that title BEFORE the CA Supreme Court made their ruling. Had the court ruled to uphold Prop. 22, this wouldn't have even been an issue.

The LYING is on Brown's part, because his entire purpose for changing the title was to influence the vote in his favor and that of gay "marriage" supporters.

Brown scrubbed Prop. 8 and said he found no constitutional issues with it. Then, pressured by gay activists, he changed his tune, railed against it, and changed the name of the amendment itself. After Prop. 8 passed, Brown said he would defend it; then changed his tune again and refused to do so.

Therefore, the lying would be on his part. Like Obama, he flip-flopped....ahem..."evolved" for political expediency.

So, you can cease with your pitiful attempt at revisionist history. Between Brown's actions and (in my view) those of the court, allowing gays to get marriage licenses before the vote on Prop. 8 occured, the goal was to steer the vote into putting Prop. 8 down.

But, of course, that didn't happen.

The state court answers to the state Constitution. Prop. 8 is a constitutional amendment. What part of that escapes your comprehension?

This basically boils down to your warped take that four judges should trump the will of the people of California. In other words, the "tyranny" of the minority vs. the majority.

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #180 on: May 18, 2012, 09:20:33 PM »
Wrong, Straw.

The title was plain and simple. In fact, it had that title BEFORE the CA Supreme Court made their ruling. Had the court ruled to uphold Prop. 22, this wouldn't have even been an issue.

The LYING is on Brown's part, because his entire purpose for changing the title was to influence the vote in his favor and that of gay "marriage" supporters.

Brown scrubbed Prop. 8 and said he found no constitutional issues with it. Then, pressured by gay activists, he changed his tune, railed against it, and changed the name of the amendment itself. After Prop. 8 passed, Brown said he would defend it; then changed his tune again and refused to do so.

Therefore, the lying would be on his part. Like Obama, he flip-flopped....ahem..."evolved" for political expediency.

So, you can cease with your pitiful attempt at revisionist history. Between Brown's actions and (in my view) those of the court, allowing gays to get marriage licenses before the vote on Prop. 8 occured, the goal was to steer the vote into putting Prop. 8 down.

But, of course, that didn't happen.

The state court answers to the state Constitution. Prop. 8 is a constitutional amendment. What part of that escapes your comprehension?

This basically boils down to your warped take that four judges should trump the will of the people of California. In other words, the "tyranny" of the minority vs. the majority.
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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #181 on: May 18, 2012, 09:24:40 PM »
Why do you hate freedom?




LOL.   You were in favor of GhettoCare right?   

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #182 on: May 20, 2012, 10:44:49 PM »

LOL.   You were in favor of GhettoCare right?   
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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #183 on: May 23, 2012, 03:30:36 AM »
African American leaders blast NAACP 'gay marriage' support
CNA ^ | 5/23/12 | Michelle Bauman
Posted on May 23, 2012 5:58:46 AM EDT by markomalley

The NAACP's recent endorsement of “gay marriage” drew harsh criticism from within the African American community for misrepresenting civil rights and undermining families.

Pastor Derek McCoy, executive director of the Maryland Marriage Alliance, said that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's “unfortunate” stance on the issue will contribute to the “further demise of the family.”

McCoy told CNA on May 21 that the NAACP is “endorsing an epidemic” of fatherless households, a “tragic” phenomenon in the United States and particularly in the African American community.

On May 19, the association released a statement in support of redefining marriage to include gay couples. The announcement came ten days after President Barack Obama announced his unprecedented support for “gay marriage.”

McCoy said that despite its long record of important work, however, the NAACP's latest move does not reflect the views of its constituents.

According to an April 2012 survey by Pew Research Center, only 39 percent of African Americans are in favor of redefining marriage. Voters across the country have consistently affirmed measures to defend marriage as the union of one man and one woman.

McCoy said that redefining marriage is redefining the family in a way that is “hazardous” for children.

“Gay marriage” teaches that fathers and mothers are both dispensable, he explained, and “this is absolutely going to harm the family.”

The absence of a father has been linked to higher rates of crime, poverty, drug abuse and teenage pregnancy throughout the U.S.

In his 2011 Father’s Day proclamation, President Obama noted the importance of fatherhood and said that his administration was making support of fathers a priority. “A father's absence is felt by children, families, and communities in countless ways, leaving a hole that can have lasting effects,” he said.

Statistics show that more than half of black children live in single-parent households, often lacking the presence of a father.

Support for “gay marriage,” McCoy underscored, reiterates the message that “one of the parents is no longer valid.”

Both fathers and mothers become “optional” in a society where having one father is viewed as no different from having two or none at all, he said.

The pastor explained that government has always recognized marriages in order to “look out for the best interest of the child.” Studies clearly show that a family with a mother and a father “is the best place for kids to be raised,” he noted.

McCoy also said that the effort to redefine marriage “does not compare to civil rights.”

He dismissed attempts to compare people who reject “gay marriage” to those who oppose interracial marriage.

“That’s not the same issue at all,” he said, reflecting that racial differences are irrelevant to marriage, but sexual complementarity is at the heart of marriage by its very nature.

“The core essence of a marriage is the two sexes coming together,” he said.

Other African American leaders have also criticized the NAACP’s endorsement of “gay marriage” in recent days.

Dr. Alveda C. King, niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., said that neither her grandfather nor her uncle “embraced the homosexual agenda that the current NAACP is attempting to label as a civil rights agenda.”

“We who marched with Rev. King did not march one inch or one mile to promote same-sex marriage,” agreed Rev. William Owens, founder and president of the Coalition of African American Pastors.

He explained that redefining marriage is counter to Dr. King’s work because it is a political attempt to “declare that an act contrary to God's law and to the natural law is a civil right.”

“We call on all Americans to respect the legitimate civil rights of gay people to be free from violence, harassment, to vote, to hold jobs,” Owens said. “But none of us has a moral or civil right to redefine marriage.”


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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #184 on: May 29, 2012, 07:43:01 PM »
Farrakhan Slams Obama’s Gay Marriage Endorsement: ‘1st Pres That Sanctioned What Scriptures Forbid’
Yahoo ^ | 5/29/12 | Billy Hallowell
Posted on May 29, 2012 9:15:08 PM EDT by Libloather

Farrakhan Slams Obama’s Gay Marriage Endorsement: ‘He’s the First President That Sanctioned What the Scriptures Forbid’
By Billy Hallowell | The Blaze – 9 hrs ago

On Sunday, May 27, Minister Louis Farrakhan spoke in San Diego, California, where he delved into a plethora of subjects, ranging from Mexican heritage to Israel’s alleged “war-mongering.” Among the topics he weighed in on, Farrakhan also took the time to tackle homosexuality and President Barack Obama’s recent endorsement of same-sex marriage.

The fiery Nation of Islam leader began by utilizing stories from both the Koran and the Bible to illustrate God’s views on same-sex attraction. He also made it overtly clear that, though he disagrees with the homosexual lifestyle, he isn’t afraid of gays and lesbians. In addition to attempting to convince the audience that homosexuality is sinful in nature, Farrakhan seemed particularly irritated that critics would label him a homophobe.

“Now don’t you dare say, ‘Farrakhan was preachin’ hate. He’s homophobic.‘ I’m not afraid of my brothers and sisters or others who may be practicing what God condemned in the days of Lot,” he proclaimed. “That’s not our job to be hateful of our people. Our job is to call us to sanity. Our job is to call the people to righteous conduct.”

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #185 on: May 29, 2012, 07:55:14 PM »
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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #186 on: May 29, 2012, 09:00:34 PM »
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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #187 on: May 30, 2012, 03:25:08 AM »
What did you do, smear yourself in water colors?
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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #188 on: May 30, 2012, 07:40:23 AM »
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What's ignorant about marriage being only between a man and a woman? And how is that even remotely the same as segregation? 

Martin Luther King would never support gay "marriage".

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #189 on: May 30, 2012, 07:45:11 AM »
Your hate will lose.

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #190 on: May 30, 2012, 09:46:25 AM »
What's ignorant about marriage being only between a man and a woman? And how is that even remotely the same as segregation? 

It's not. Garebear is simply engaging in his standard silliness.


Martin Luther King would never support gay "marriage".

Probably not! His family seems to be split on the issue. Dr. King's wife, Coretta, and oldest daughter, Yolanda, supported gay "marriage".

His son, MLK III, seems a bit on the fence.

Dr. King's youngest daughter, Bernice, and his niece, Alveda, are VEHEMENTLY against gay "marriage".

So, when it comes to invoking the King family on this issue, it's safe to say that the left use Correta and Yolanda, to argue their point.

The right use Bernice and Alveda, to make their case. Though she's a Democrat, Alveda King often shows up at Tea Party rallies. She was at Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally nearly two years ago.

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #191 on: June 05, 2012, 11:48:17 AM »
All about the Benjamins.

LGBT donors back President Obama, big time
By Jen Christensen, CNN
updated 9:48 AM EDT, Tue June 5, 2012

Some of Obama's prominent LGBT supporters include Neil Patrick Harris, Suze Orman, Ricky Martin, Ellen DeGeneres, and Dustin Lance Black.

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
A CNN analysis of Obama's biggest fundraisers shows about one in every 16 is openly gay
Gay fundraisers have raised more than $8 million for the Obama campaign

Similar figures are not available for the Romney campaign

(CNN) -- After President Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage, a group organizing a fundraiser on his behalf suddenly had to find a bigger venue. The event, featuring the pop singer Pink, is one of two LGBT-organized fundraisers Obama is expected to attend on the West Coast on Wednesday.

A CNN analysis of President Obama's biggest fundraisers, known as bundlers, shows that at least 33 -- or about one in every 16 bundlers -- is openly gay. Together, they have raised at least $8 million for the campaign between January and the end of March.

By contrast, in the same period, bundlers from the television, movie and music industry, some of whom attended a recent high-profile fundraiser hosted by actor George Clooney, raised $6.8 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

While campaign finance laws require donors to disclose their full names, addresses, occupations and employers, there is no box to check for sexual orientation. Nor does the law require candidates to release information about their bundlers. Under prodding from watchdog groups, presidential campaigns have released bundler data in past elections. Obama's campaign has released its list. Republican candidate Mitt Romney's campaign has not.

In CNN's analysis, only bundlers who have disclosed their orientation in past CNN reporting or in trusted LGBT publications were counted as gay. The Washington Post has reported that as many as one in six bundlers supporting Obama are gay. The Advocate Magazine estimates one in five.

Glancing down the names on the bundlers list released by the Obama campaign for the first quarter, it is easy to find people known for their work on behalf of the LGBT community.

Tim Gill, a software entrepreneur who runs a large Colorado-based foundation that backs gay rights projects, has already contributed $672,800 with his partner Scott Miller to the Obama for America campaign. Fred Eychaner, who owns the Chicago-based Newsweb Corp., has donated $1,220,550 so far.

He co-hosted a $35,800-per-person LGBT organized fundraiser for Obama in February. Kathy Levinson, the former president and CEO of the Menlo Park, California-based Etrade, gave $202,150. The LA Gay and Lesbian Center Women's Night named Levinson a "Community Role Model" in 2000. She was instrumental in raising money to stop the anti-same-sex marriage law in California.

Donations made after Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage May 9 won't be released until mid-June, when the campaign files its second-quarter reports with the Federal Election Commission.

Many LGBT bundlers have maintained a close relationship with the president throughout his first term. A state dinner in March was attended by bundlers Gill; Eychaner; Barry Karas, a former Human Rights Campaign board member; James (Wally) Brewster, senior vice president of General Growth Properties, a real estate investment trust that owns and operates shopping malls; Dana Perlman, a corporate lawyer who has served as co-chair of the Obama/DNC LGBT Leadership Council; Joseph Falk, a Miami mortgage broker and others.

Support for Obama from the LGBT community was challenged after the initial excitement of his first campaign, largely because of what was perceived as his lukewarm support on same-sex marriage. Some say a low point came during the election in 2008, when evangelist pastor Rick Warren asked Obama how he defined marriage and he called it "a union between a man and a woman." He added: "For me as a Christian, it is a sacred union. God's in the mix." He further angered the community by picking Warren to deliver his invocation at the presidential inauguration.

Actor Alan Cumming wrote in 2010, "We keep hearing that Obama is an ally, that DADT [the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy that kept LGBT people from openly serving in the military] will end under his watch, but what do we actually get? Diddly squat."

Dustin Lance Black, who won a best screenplay Oscar for "Milk," a movie biography of the gay San Francisco politician Harvey Milk who was gunned down because of his sexual orientation, said last year that he had been an Obama supporter before but might sit out the upcoming election. When President Obama finally signed the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" and "evolved" in his position on marriage by saying he was in favor of it for the LGBT community, both Black and Cumming did more than just say they supported the president. They donated money. They also encouraged others to do the same.

David Mixner, who started one of the first LGBT-themed PACs in the late 1970s, said the community has come a long way in being accepted in electoral politics. "We had some candidates who wouldn't take our money back then because they didn't want to be associated with anyone who was gay," Mixner said. He said he believes that changed with the Clinton administration, which the PAC raised $4 million to support. "Now the community knows how to raise money and contribute on their own and we are more than welcome at the table."

The LGBT community is such an important part of this president's re-election effort that the Obama for America campaign hosts a special section for it on its website. It includes a video discussing the president's support for LGBT issues narrated by actress Jane Lynch, who is openly gay. It also offers Obama merchandise like T-shirts and drink koozies to bring to Gay Pride events this summer.

The president has already attended several LGBT-organized fundraisers, including one in New York hosted by openly gay singer Ricky Martin, the Futuro Fund, and Obama for America LGBT Leadership Council.

Another event in Washington, hosted by Karen K. Dixon and her partner, Dr. Nan Schaffer, was rumored to have raised more than a million dollars for the campaign, although the Obama team won't comment on the record about fundraising. Tickets for one of the California events were selling so well the campaign had to find a larger venue. There also is great interest in a Chicago fundraiser co-hosted by LGBT bundlers Brewster and Bob Satawake. The couple has already raised $288,663, according to the CNN analysis.

"I think there has always been a strong base of support from LGBT people for the president," said Michael Cole-Schwartz, spokesperson for the Human Rights Campaign, whose incoming president Chad Griffin is a bundler. "He earned even more respect from the community -- from repealing 'don't ask, don't tell,' to signing the hate crimes law giving the first civil rights protection for us in federal law, to coming out against DOMA," the Defense of Marriage Act that defines marriage for federal purposes as unions exclusively between a man and a woman. "Now, with his saying he believes in full marriage equality, we have another reason for people in our community to be generous with their time and money."

It is difficult to know if there are any openly gay bundlers for the Republicans, because Romney has not disclosed his bundler list.

The Republican candidate has, however, voiced his opposition to civil unions and supports a federal amendment to the U.S. Constitution to deny same-sex couples the right to marry.

But some gay Republicans say Romney is not totally close minded on LGBT issues. "On gay issues, where Romney stands is not as black and white as it seems," said R. Clarke Cooper, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans, an organization for gay and lesbian Republicans. "One thing he has been consistent on, as governor and as a candidate for president, is he has spoken in broad terms about ending discrimination in the workplace. He has said there is no room for it."

Cooper said the Log Cabin Republicans haven't decided yet if they will endorse Romney. That announcement will come sometime this fall. He does believe, though, that there are gay donors to Romney's campaign. They just might not be as outspoken.

"We joke that at Pride (festivals), the question we most often ask other Republicans we see there is, 'Are you out?' Meaning 'out' about your politics yet."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/05/politics/lgbt-obama-donors/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #192 on: June 05, 2012, 11:49:25 AM »
Like I said - gays, like every other group - are used like toilet paper for obama  


All about the Benjamins.

LGBT donors back President Obama, big time
By Jen Christensen, CNN
updated 9:48 AM EDT, Tue June 5, 2012

Some of Obama's prominent LGBT supporters include Neil Patrick Harris, Suze Orman, Ricky Martin, Ellen DeGeneres, and Dustin Lance Black.

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
A CNN analysis of Obama's biggest fundraisers shows about one in every 16 is openly gay
Gay fundraisers have raised more than $8 million for the Obama campaign

Similar figures are not available for the Romney campaign

(CNN) -- After President Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage, a group organizing a fundraiser on his behalf suddenly had to find a bigger venue. The event, featuring the pop singer Pink, is one of two LGBT-organized fundraisers Obama is expected to attend on the West Coast on Wednesday.

A CNN analysis of President Obama's biggest fundraisers, known as bundlers, shows that at least 33 -- or about one in every 16 bundlers -- is openly gay. Together, they have raised at least $8 million for the campaign between January and the end of March.

By contrast, in the same period, bundlers from the television, movie and music industry, some of whom attended a recent high-profile fundraiser hosted by actor George Clooney, raised $6.8 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

While campaign finance laws require donors to disclose their full names, addresses, occupations and employers, there is no box to check for sexual orientation. Nor does the law require candidates to release information about their bundlers. Under prodding from watchdog groups, presidential campaigns have released bundler data in past elections. Obama's campaign has released its list. Republican candidate Mitt Romney's campaign has not.

In CNN's analysis, only bundlers who have disclosed their orientation in past CNN reporting or in trusted LGBT publications were counted as gay. The Washington Post has reported that as many as one in six bundlers supporting Obama are gay. The Advocate Magazine estimates one in five.

Glancing down the names on the bundlers list released by the Obama campaign for the first quarter, it is easy to find people known for their work on behalf of the LGBT community.

Tim Gill, a software entrepreneur who runs a large Colorado-based foundation that backs gay rights projects, has already contributed $672,800 with his partner Scott Miller to the Obama for America campaign. Fred Eychaner, who owns the Chicago-based Newsweb Corp., has donated $1,220,550 so far.

He co-hosted a $35,800-per-person LGBT organized fundraiser for Obama in February. Kathy Levinson, the former president and CEO of the Menlo Park, California-based Etrade, gave $202,150. The LA Gay and Lesbian Center Women's Night named Levinson a "Community Role Model" in 2000. She was instrumental in raising money to stop the anti-same-sex marriage law in California.

Donations made after Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage May 9 won't be released until mid-June, when the campaign files its second-quarter reports with the Federal Election Commission.

Many LGBT bundlers have maintained a close relationship with the president throughout his first term. A state dinner in March was attended by bundlers Gill; Eychaner; Barry Karas, a former Human Rights Campaign board member; James (Wally) Brewster, senior vice president of General Growth Properties, a real estate investment trust that owns and operates shopping malls; Dana Perlman, a corporate lawyer who has served as co-chair of the Obama/DNC LGBT Leadership Council; Joseph Falk, a Miami mortgage broker and others.

Support for Obama from the LGBT community was challenged after the initial excitement of his first campaign, largely because of what was perceived as his lukewarm support on same-sex marriage. Some say a low point came during the election in 2008, when evangelist pastor Rick Warren asked Obama how he defined marriage and he called it "a union between a man and a woman." He added: "For me as a Christian, it is a sacred union. God's in the mix." He further angered the community by picking Warren to deliver his invocation at the presidential inauguration.

Actor Alan Cumming wrote in 2010, "We keep hearing that Obama is an ally, that DADT [the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy that kept LGBT people from openly serving in the military] will end under his watch, but what do we actually get? Diddly squat."

Dustin Lance Black, who won a best screenplay Oscar for "Milk," a movie biography of the gay San Francisco politician Harvey Milk who was gunned down because of his sexual orientation, said last year that he had been an Obama supporter before but might sit out the upcoming election. When President Obama finally signed the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" and "evolved" in his position on marriage by saying he was in favor of it for the LGBT community, both Black and Cumming did more than just say they supported the president. They donated money. They also encouraged others to do the same.

David Mixner, who started one of the first LGBT-themed PACs in the late 1970s, said the community has come a long way in being accepted in electoral politics. "We had some candidates who wouldn't take our money back then because they didn't want to be associated with anyone who was gay," Mixner said. He said he believes that changed with the Clinton administration, which the PAC raised $4 million to support. "Now the community knows how to raise money and contribute on their own and we are more than welcome at the table."

The LGBT community is such an important part of this president's re-election effort that the Obama for America campaign hosts a special section for it on its website. It includes a video discussing the president's support for LGBT issues narrated by actress Jane Lynch, who is openly gay. It also offers Obama merchandise like T-shirts and drink koozies to bring to Gay Pride events this summer.

The president has already attended several LGBT-organized fundraisers, including one in New York hosted by openly gay singer Ricky Martin, the Futuro Fund, and Obama for America LGBT Leadership Council.

Another event in Washington, hosted by Karen K. Dixon and her partner, Dr. Nan Schaffer, was rumored to have raised more than a million dollars for the campaign, although the Obama team won't comment on the record about fundraising. Tickets for one of the California events were selling so well the campaign had to find a larger venue. There also is great interest in a Chicago fundraiser co-hosted by LGBT bundlers Brewster and Bob Satawake. The couple has already raised $288,663, according to the CNN analysis.

"I think there has always been a strong base of support from LGBT people for the president," said Michael Cole-Schwartz, spokesperson for the Human Rights Campaign, whose incoming president Chad Griffin is a bundler. "He earned even more respect from the community -- from repealing 'don't ask, don't tell,' to signing the hate crimes law giving the first civil rights protection for us in federal law, to coming out against DOMA," the Defense of Marriage Act that defines marriage for federal purposes as unions exclusively between a man and a woman. "Now, with his saying he believes in full marriage equality, we have another reason for people in our community to be generous with their time and money."

It is difficult to know if there are any openly gay bundlers for the Republicans, because Romney has not disclosed his bundler list.

The Republican candidate has, however, voiced his opposition to civil unions and supports a federal amendment to the U.S. Constitution to deny same-sex couples the right to marry.

But some gay Republicans say Romney is not totally close minded on LGBT issues. "On gay issues, where Romney stands is not as black and white as it seems," said R. Clarke Cooper, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans, an organization for gay and lesbian Republicans. "One thing he has been consistent on, as governor and as a candidate for president, is he has spoken in broad terms about ending discrimination in the workplace. He has said there is no room for it."

Cooper said the Log Cabin Republicans haven't decided yet if they will endorse Romney. That announcement will come sometime this fall. He does believe, though, that there are gay donors to Romney's campaign. They just might not be as outspoken.

"We joke that at Pride (festivals), the question we most often ask other Republicans we see there is, 'Are you out?' Meaning 'out' about your politics yet."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/05/politics/lgbt-obama-donors/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

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« Reply #193 on: June 06, 2012, 05:51:58 AM »
Obama kicks off West Coast campaign fundraising swing in California
By Associated Press, Wednesday, June 6, 3:07 AM



WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is launching a two-day campaign fundraising swing in California.

The president will start Wednesday’s crusade for cash with two events in San Francisco, followed by a pair of appeals in Los Angeles. Among the evening events is a gala for gay and lesbian supporters where tickets cost up to $25,000 per couple.

Obama will wrap up his California drives in Los Angeles with an event Thursday morning before heading to Nevada. In a speech at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, Obama will announce new steps his administration will take to help college students repay their loans.

California has been fertile fundraising territory for the president. He made two trips last month to the Democratic-leaning state to scoop up cash.

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #194 on: June 06, 2012, 05:57:40 AM »
He believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, as do I. And, he believes that Christ died for our sins and to redeem mankind as do I.

Do all of our doctrinal philosophies match? NO! I never claimed they did.

But, enough of them match in the major social and political issues, for me to pick him over that goof Obama, any day of the week.

Romney wasn't my favorite of the GOP field. But, he is the survivor (and soon-to-be winner). I'm casting my vote for him, because we literally and figuratively can't afford anymore of Obama's foolishness.

So you want OBL back?
You want to fuck up the economy again?
You want kids to die because they are denied health coverage?

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #195 on: June 06, 2012, 05:58:26 AM »
So you want OBL back?
You want to fuck up the economy again?
You want kids to die because they are denied health coverage?



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« Reply #196 on: June 06, 2012, 05:58:46 AM »
It's not. Garebear is simply engaging in his standard silliness.

Probably not! His family seems to be split on the issue. Dr. King's wife, Coretta, and oldest daughter, Yolanda, supported gay "marriage".

His son, MLK III, seems a bit on the fence.

Dr. King's youngest daughter, Bernice, and his niece, Alveda, are VEHEMENTLY against gay "marriage".

So, when it comes to invoking the King family on this issue, it's safe to say that the left use Correta and Yolanda, to argue their point.

The right use Bernice and Alveda, to make their case. Though she's a Democrat, Alveda King often shows up at Tea Party rallies. She was at Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally nearly two years ago.
Are you against interracial marriage?

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Re: Obama backs gay marriage
« Reply #197 on: June 06, 2012, 06:00:54 AM »
Are you against interracial marriage?




Sexual preference is not the same as race. 


I hope you far left extremists keep it up.   

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« Reply #198 on: June 06, 2012, 07:10:13 AM »

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« Reply #199 on: June 06, 2012, 10:34:19 PM »
It's not. Garebear is simply engaging in his standard silliness.

Probably not! His family seems to be split on the issue. Dr. King's wife, Coretta, and oldest daughter, Yolanda, supported gay "marriage".

His son, MLK III, seems a bit on the fence.

Dr. King's youngest daughter, Bernice, and his niece, Alveda, are VEHEMENTLY against gay "marriage".

So, when it comes to invoking the King family on this issue, it's safe to say that the left use Correta and Yolanda, to argue their point.

The right use Bernice and Alveda, to make their case. Though she's a Democrat, Alveda King often shows up at Tea Party rallies. She was at Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally nearly two years ago.
I will not have my silliness deemed standard. Oh no, my brother, this I will not allow.
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