Getting Ripped on 502 Grams of Carbs, Beer, Butter, Cake, Ice Cream , Cigarettes

[The True Adonis]

i think general recommendations are designed specifically TO make people out of shape and sedentary, it's in the government's best interests. i mean, they recommend 75 grams of protein per day, no way that's nearly enough for anyone to build muscle on. perhaps a small woman. but i'm the paranoid sort.

I have more muscle than you and I probably average around 75-100 grams of protein per day.  Sometimes alot more, sometimes less, depending on what I cook or feel like eating. 

[Disgusted]

Not true.  Its all about Calories in vs. Calories out simple as that.  No need to "purge" yourself or do anything silly like that.  I am 176.2 (this mornings weight) and I eat 2600 calories daily-Very low for me actually and have a nice six pack going on.  

You said 3200 for your weight and that's doing nothing ? Plus you are are active correct? So Eugene was eating almost 2000 calories more than you just to maintain his weight?

[deadpan]

He is not Natural?    Can`t even afford protein powder or anything and somehow he spends it all on steroids despite not even knowing ANYTHING about dieting?   

and he told you this, on his youtube channel. and you believed it all  

Again, I don`t think you understood the article or what Max Lifespan is compared to Average Lifespan and how those figures are obtained.

well then please explain it to a peon such as myself, oh wise one  

[The True Adonis]

exactly, but bodybuilders are like, ```Look I get shredded off ice cream and pizza`` and only Adam believes them

Maybe because its what I do. (and MANY others as well) 

[deadpan]

I have more muscle than you and I probably average around 75-100 grams of protein per day.  Sometimes alot more, sometimes less, depending on what I cook or feel like eating. 

you're also like what, 5'6"?

i'm 6'3". and i'm pretty sure you don't have more muscle than me. maybe scaled to proportion but definitely not in terms of overall mass.

[Coach is Back!]

Not true.  Its all about Calories in vs. Calories out simple as that.  No need to "purge" yourself or do anything silly like that.  I am 176.2 (this mornings weight) and I eat 2600 calories daily-Very low for me actually and have a nice six pack going on.  

Adam, I don't know if you're bored and just looking for controversy on an old subject or what, so I will humor you. The highlighted statement is only true if your only goal is lose bodyweight, meaning muscle, water and fat. If thats the case, you'll look better in your clothes but your body composition will remain practically the same. So, yes. In that case you're correct. For athletes, bodybuilders, etc that statement is so far wrong it's off the charts.  

[The True Adonis]

You said 3200 for your weight and that's doing nothing ? Plus you are are active correct? So Eugene was eating almost 2000 calories more than you just to maintain his weight?

Eugene was eating 4000 daily and did train a few hours a day, every day and was pretty active.  He was under eating in comparison to his activity level hence is permanent ripped state.


I am grossly under eating as well at 2600 calories a day compared to my activity level.  I burn a ton of calories in my workouts let alone all the landscaping, digging holes, crop planting and what not during the week.

I could easily eat 3500-4000 calories or more and maintain.  When I work, I work hard and fast.  Ever try sawing a Pecan Limb with a handsaw?  You will be covered in sweat in 2 minutes and if you do that for 4 hours or so, you will have burned more than a days worth of calories in sawing alone.  Way more.

[OTHstrong]

Adam, I don't know if you're bored and just looking for controversy on an old subject or what, so I will humor you. The highlighted statement is only true if your only goal is lose bodyweight, meaning muscle, water and fat. If thats the case, you'll look better in your clothes but your body composition will remain practically the same. So, yes. In that case you're correct. For athletes, bodybuilders, etc that statement is so far wrong it's off the charts.  

Nicely said, no truer words have ever been spoken, boooooooooom

[The True Adonis]

you're also like what, 5'6"?

i'm 6'3". and i'm pretty sure you don't have more muscle than me. maybe scaled to proportion but definitely not in terms of overall mass.

I`m 5`11/ 6 ft moron.  And my arms are longer than yours.  

[Disgusted]

Adam I'm confused. You say that you need 3200 cals per day just to maintain with zero exercise. You also state you are eating 2600c per day. So that's a deficit of 600c under maintenance. I'm sure you don't just sit around all day but I would assume you are not burning the copious amounts that Eugene was either. So I'll make a guess that you are also burning around 800 per day over the 3200 maintenance. So 600 plus 800 is 1400 per day over your basic needs..so you are in a caloric deficit of 9800 per week or 2.8 pounds of fat per week that you are currently losing?

[The True Adonis]

Adam I'm confused. You say that you need 3200 cals per day just to maintain with zero exercise. You also sate you are eating 2600c per day. So that's a deficit of 600c under maintenance. I'm sure you don't just sit around all day but I would assume you are not burning the copious amounts that Eugene was either. So I'll make a guess that you are also burning around 800 per day over the 3200 maintenance. So 600 plus 800 is 1400 per day over your basic needs..so you are in a caloric deficit of 9800 per week or 2.8 pounds of fat per week that you are currently losing?

I was 180 last week at wake up.

Today I am 176.2.

[Marty Champions]

My TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) is around 3200 calories with zero activity.  That mean I can eat 3200 and not gain any fat. 

then post some current physique shots 

[The True Adonis]

I was 180 last week at wake up.

Today I am 176.2.

I will update my challenges to reflect this as well.  I haven`t updated in a day or two but did workout consistently.

I lift heavy weights 5-7 days a week by the way.

[Disgusted]

Eugene was eating 4000 daily and did train a few hours a day, every day and was pretty active.  He was under eating in comparison to his activity level hence is permanent ripped state.


I am grossly under eating as well at 2600 calories a day compared to my activity level.  I burn a ton of calories in my workouts let alone all the landscaping, digging holes, crop planting and what not during the week.

I could easily eat 3500-4000 calories or more and maintain.  When I work, I work hard and fast.  Ever try sawing a Pecan Limb with a handsaw?  You will be covered in sweat in 2 minutes and if you do that for 4 hours or so, you will have burned more than a days worth of calories in sawing alone.  Way more.

4500 that a big jump over 4000.

[Disgusted]

I was 180 last week at wake up.

Today I am 176.2.

You didn't answer my question. You are waaaaay of on your numbers for someone who keeps such a meticulous track of his caloric needs.

[OTHstrong]

What Adam does not realize is that the maintenance calorie intake constantly changes.

[Marty Champions]

that dudes icecream diet was alot like mine when i ate icecream but worked out alot also. that guy looked skinny like a crackhead in tank top

[Disgusted]

He is not Natural?    Can`t even afford protein powder or anything and somehow he spends it all on steroids despite not even knowing ANYTHING about dieting?   

Yeah kids so poor he couldn't possibly afford to buy some dbol. 

[Marty Champions]

What Adam does not realize is that the maintenance calorie intake constantly changes.

exactly thats why its impossible to eat a percise amount according to your metabolism, even the moon effects metabolism do you think adonis has accounted for the moon

same goes with the weather/temperature. does his die account for temperature effecting maintenance caloric needs? NO i didnt think so

[The Scott]

A calorie may well be a calorie, but to a great extent it's what you do with them that matters.
Thanks for the Sandow information!

[OTHstrong]

Maybe because its what I do. (and MANY others as well) 

and I don`t doubt you but we are talking people with extremely high metabolism and certainly not the norm so your attitude `` it works for me so it should work for you`` is outrageous.

[deadpan]

I`m 5`11/ 6 ft moron.  And my arms are longer than yours.  

you're like two inches taller than branch, we all saw that video. gtfoh

this is the most retarded thread you've made in a while and you've had quite some doozies before

[Disgusted]

Adam ran away after my last question. 

[OTHstrong]

Adam ran away after my last question. 

Adam always runs away 

[Man of Steel]

Adam always runs away 

When a person has 150 gimmick accounts he can't spend all day on just one.