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Re: Are atheists mentally ill?
« Reply #75 on: August 19, 2013, 11:07:44 AM »
This is what I mean.

I go outside and I see something growing from the ground. If you speak in english you'd call it a tree.

But here is god..... I've never seen it. I've only heard the word with nothing to apply it to other than some frivolous belief handed down from people assumed to be wiser. WHAT?! How is that logical in any way?

I do see that there is a life force. Such as a cut on my arm that would heal without my doing anything. This is the closest thing i could imagine to being god. But to limit it in any way by calling it something so ridiculous is to go astray from rationality IMO.

Have you ever earnestly and humbly sought out God (the Christian God of the bible) based on the terms laid out in scripture?  I mean really desired to know God in a personal way and surrendered to his purposes for your life?   

I'm not preaching here either.....just a couple questions.

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Re: Are atheists mentally ill?
« Reply #76 on: August 19, 2013, 11:13:21 AM »
Yes. I've had what one could call religous experiences. Been through what one would call the dark night of the soul. Read the Bhagavad gita, the bible, practiced various religions, and meditate daily. It all led me to the realization that god never was. It's all just as it is. It's not meant to be limited to such small words as god or whatever you may want to call it. I sought god and enlightened consciousness. It's all bogus. This is it. THIS IS IT. The experiences as it is.

Whether there is anything more is completely irrelevant. It just takes you away from the felt presence of immediate experience, which is the only medium from which we can experience anything AT ALL. Including the idea of god.

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Re: Are atheists mentally ill?
« Reply #77 on: August 19, 2013, 11:22:33 AM »


"Visualize for a moment sand dunes. And notice, when you look at these sand dunes in your mind, that they look like wind. Sand dunes look like wind in some sense.

Well, then analyze the situation: what is wind? Wind is a pressure variant phenomena that fluctuates over time. In a way, the sand grains moved about by the wind are like a lower dimensional slice of the wind itself. And from photographic analysis of dunes, you can calculate the speed and duration of the wind that made them. So the dune is a lower dimensional slice of time, of the wind ebbing and flowing that made it.

Now lets change the metaphor a little bit. Instead of grains of sand, let’s think of genes; instead of a windstorm, let’s think of a billion years of evolution. It moves the genes around in a pattern, which is a lower dimensional slice of the force which created the situation.

In other words, on every living organism there is the imprint of the higher dimensional force which made it. Now, somebody could say, 'Well, that’s God.’ Well, but in a scientific context, we don’t speak like that. But whatever it is that made blind matter into whales, squirrels and human beings, it left its calling card inside each human being, each squirrel, each whale.

That’s the DNA."

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Re: Are atheists mentally ill?
« Reply #78 on: August 19, 2013, 11:27:27 AM »
Yes. I've had what one could call religous experiences. Been through what one would call the dark night of the soul. Read the Bhagavad gita, the bible, practiced various religions, and meditate daily. It all led me to the realization that god never was. It's all just as it is. It's not meant to be limited to such small words as god or whatever you may want to call it. I sought god and enlightened consciousness. It's all bogus. This is it. THIS IS IT. The experiences as it is.

Whether there is anything more is completely irrelevant. It just takes you away from the felt presence of immediate experience, which is the only medium from which we can experience anything AT ALL. Including the idea of god.

So you've practiced various religions, Hinduisim being one of them, you've meditated a bit, read the bible, attempted to reach enlightenment (via Buddhism?)  and in the end found it all pointless.  I probably would've come to the same conclusion as you had I pursued that path.

Have you ever surrendered to the will of Jesus Christ though?  I mean truly surrendered and applied what you read in the bible?  Beyond general study and reading of scripture, beyond church attendance.....actively desired for Christ to reveal himself in your life?  That's more what I'm asking. 

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Re: Are atheists mentally ill?
« Reply #79 on: August 19, 2013, 11:28:58 AM »
Why must a person have any interest in ''god'' at all? God is irrelevant. There's nothing to be believed or disbelieved. Of course retards don't understand this. People that believe and don't believe are mentally ill. If you don't believe there is still investing in non-belief. Until you let go of this idea of a god you're a slave to a lesser mind.

This.

I'd rather focus on what kind of whores outter space may have to offer human kind.
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Re: Are atheists mentally ill?
« Reply #80 on: August 19, 2013, 11:56:20 AM »
So you've practiced various religions, Hinduisim being one of them, you've meditated a bit, read the bible, attempted to reach enlightenment (via Buddhism?)  and in the end found it all pointless.  I probably would've come to the same conclusion as you had I pursued that path.

Have you ever surrendered to the will of Jesus Christ though?  I mean truly surrendered and applied what you read in the bible?  Beyond general study and reading of scripture, beyond church attendance.....actively desired for Christ to reveal himself in your life?  That's more what I'm asking.  

No no no. I didn't find it pointless. Let me put it like this. I found practice of religion to be a trap. When you catch the fish, you can forget the trap. The fish is the realization that this is it. The trap is the practice to catch the now.  Practice until you get it, then you can forget the trap. You may continue to practice all you want but it's all the same thing once you get it. People will try and trick you into thinking that there is something higher in the following of jesus, or having Christ reveal himself. The point is to trust yourself. There is no point in following any religion unless that's what you wish to do with your time.

We're here. that's all we do know. From there we see we have the ability to act and think. And from there we have the ability to play life's games.

There are many games. Religion, racing, flying kites, having sex... etc. but you must realize we only participate in order to be in moment (unless you're completely blown about by the mind and restless senses). Religion and following christ will give you methods to teach you how to get into the moment so much so you forget who you think you are. That's the end game. You can get there by doing anything if you're honest in your efforts. Religion is no better than anything else, it's just an old method that works well. Nothing to obsess over.

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Re: Are atheists mentally ill?
« Reply #81 on: August 19, 2013, 02:29:49 PM »
No no no. I didn't find it pointless. Let me put it like this. I found practice of religion to be a trap. When you catch the fish, you can forget the trap. The fish is the realization that this is it. The trap is the practice to catch the now.  Practice until you get it, then you can forget the trap. You may continue to practice all you want but it's all the same thing once you get it. People will try and trick you into thinking that there is something higher in the following of jesus, or having Christ reveal himself. The point is to trust yourself. There is no point in following any religion unless that's what you wish to do with your time.

We're here. that's all we do know. From there we see we have the ability to act and think. And from there we have the ability to play life's games.

There are many games. Religion, racing, flying kites, having sex... etc. but you must realize we only participate in order to be in moment (unless you're completely blown about by the mind and restless senses). Religion and following christ will give you methods to teach you how to get into the moment so much so you forget who you think you are. That's the end game. You can get there by doing anything if you're honest in your efforts. Religion is no better than anything else, it's just an old method that works well. Nothing to obsess over.

Well, that certainly is one way to look at it.  Thanks!

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Re: Are atheists mentally ill?
« Reply #82 on: August 19, 2013, 02:56:04 PM »
Spiritually retarded. They should have to wear helmets with identifying marks and be put in labor camps.

Looks like you support Nazi labor camps ideology  ;D ;D ;D