Any of you admit you ll vote for Milliband?

[bigmc]

Good point Darren, I stopped dressing up in drag when I saw all the wigs were being made in Indonesia, no where near as realistic as the ones from homoerotica in Brighton

yes cyp

I stopped stabbing prostitutes when they stopped making the blades in the Sheffield

those frenzied attacks aren't the same with low quality steel

[BigCyp]

yes cyp

I stopped stabbing prostitutes when they stopped making the blades in the Sheffield

those frenzied attacks aren't the same with low quality steel

 

I had to stop going to the Elm guest house with Cliff in the 80's, when I realised they were using tinned peaches in the breakfast bar

[Henda]

I had to stop going to the Elm guest house with Cliff in the 80's, when I realised they were using tinned peaches in the breakfast bar

Stopped letting wot lass wear a strap on and forcefully make me deep throat it before violent assfucking when I found out the dildo was made of inferior Chinese plastic

[denarii]

Ahh I see, im so stupid.... That's why shop floor wages keep rising each year then...hmmmmmmm, only real rises are seen at upper management level and its been this way a long time.. If your ilk really thought that way why did they almost go into meltdown when the minimum wage was brought in, and still refuse to pay a living wage..now those huge department stores and super markets will have the majority of the wages put straight back into the tills, yet they still refuse to budge?

thats to do with the debt bubble. which inflates demand versus the level of demand without net borrowing. put simply your own labour party with its deficits inflated an otherwise weak economy and most of that artificial demand fell into the pockets of the wealthy and the asset owners given the underlying weak wage growth.

[local hero]

thats to do with the debt bubble. which inflates demand versus the level of demand without net borrowing. put simply your own labour party with its deficits inflated an otherwise weak economy and most of that artificial demand fell into the pockets of the wealthy and the asset owners given the underlying weak wage growth.

Do you actualy beleive anything you write? That whole paragraph is utter bullshit....

[Henda]

Do you actualy beleive anything you write? That whole paragraph is utter bullshit....

Denarii is fat and has to train in a hooded jumper to hide his fat and the fact that he looks like absolute shit, this alone makes his thoughts irrelevant

[denarii]

Do you actualy beleive anything you write? That whole paragraph is utter bullshit....

It's factually true.

[denarii]

Her you go muppets. Austrian school stands up to logic. Keynesian doesn't. But because Keynesian suggest govt intervention needless to say idiots like labour and Tories support it... As they can pretend they are managing the economy and creating jobs. That wins votes from tools like local hero.

http://theaustrianinsider.com/infographic-keynesian-vs-austrian-economics/

[HonestBob]

You see, its cun.ts like you who can't see past there own noses.... You and your elk want your workers to work with no rights, no pay rises, reduced holidays, zero hrs etc etc the torys are dying to take the little rights we have left, leaving the working man totaly powerless, don't even get be started on privatization and the total fuck up of our utilities and resources.. And if they sign off the new trade deal with the US you can more or less wave good bye to the NHS

put it this way, if it was one man one vote you and your Tory party would never get in power again

You really are thick aren't you.  A classic example of the politics of envy.

1) Where did I ever talk about taking away rights from people?

2) the British electoral system is set up in favour of Labour.  Putting aside the West Lothian question it is possible for Labour to have fewer votes than the Tories and still gain a majority.  It happened in 1997.

You should learn not question your betters.

[HonestBob]

you make a lot of valid points

but you need a massive shift in social values to make the changes you want

any of the main stream parties will always tinker round the middle ground

as they want the popular vote

I agree that we need to get people in to work

problem is as you know as an employer

it costs a lot more to employ people over here than our new competitors like china

and we have fucked ourselves in the ass by building the economy on the financial sector

its always a house of cards now that can come tumbling down

problem is how do you make manufacturing more competitive  when your overheads are huge compared to the middle east

there is a reason global manufacturers get all their kit from shit holes where the workers get paid nothing

the only way we can do it in the uk is to excel at tech like the formula one industry

where it is so specialised that the poor countries cant compete

none of the political parties will tow this line as its seen as elitist

I pretty much agree with all of what you've just written as well. 

I do think we need to get away from this bullshit anti Thatcher rhetoric that her and the Tories ruined industry.  Industry / manufacturing was ruined by the changes in the world - Detroit / Essen etc.

The Brits are super smart people compared to other countries (IMHO). We are pragmatic, logical, respect rules just enough without being slavish to them.

How we fix the country is reduce the client state (benefits / migrants on the dole) and create a culture that rewards hard work and ability. Sadly it won't happen because of Blair's gerrymandering and the fact that I suspect the world's economy is going to be in and out of the doghouse for all our lifetimes. 

[local hero]

You really are thick aren't you.  A classic example of the politics of envy.

1) Where did I ever talk about taking away rights from people?

2) the British electoral system is set up in favour of Labour.  Putting aside the West Lothian question it is possible for Labour to have fewer votes than the Tories and still gain a majority.  It happened in 1997.

You should learn not question your betters.

Yes im quite stoopid as has been pointed out repeatably by my betters on here....

3 points tho, the majority of the country is working class, labour is supposed to be the party for the workers, numericaly labour would always win, so I dont get your point

Secondly, the polocy of all conservative goverments has always been to erode workers rights, to try and argue otherwise is futile, and yet you and your ilk will mock ardant labour supporters for blindly voting for them... they do so because they are the lesser of evils, as the unions still have a big say on labour policy

And when I say working class I mean actual workers not the sub level who have lived on benefites for decades

Thirdly, and more importantly... im bigger , more ripped and muscular than all of you, so my opinion carries more weight and makes this thread bodybuilding related...

[Donny]

People like Cameron want the Working class to "be in their place" like in the 1920s.

[local hero]

People like Cameron want the Working class to "be in their place" like in the 1920s.

Quite right donny, work longer for less is the way forward for paye employees across the land

[Darren Avey]

Cameron wants everyone to stay in their place which he believes is beneath him. I hate all these people and would love to destroy them.........in da cageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeee

[HonestBob]

When you have a country full of takers (55% take out more than they put in) you know you're in trouble.

Blame the bosses though.  People of my "ilk" provide jobs, opportunities, and security (do you know how hard it is to fire someone versus how easy it is to quit?).  These are the people a country needs and the politics of envy ("I hate the Tories") stirred up by you cretins drags everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

You should be calling me "sir" and ask what you can do for me with the taxes my "ilk" have paid to give you the NHS and state school education.  Although on that latter point if you'd ever put any money in you should be asking for it back now...

[Donny]

His policies are shared with Conservatives in Europe--a Team effort. Health care and his absurd Bedroom tax. What a shock the Conservative Bitch Merkel over here has that too...well i´m so shocked. People working for a Minimum wage..also here too like the UK. cameron cuts the British Armed Forces and stabs them in the Back. A man who has never seen a uniform. The Global threats are getting worse but he will at all costs hold on to his policies. I remember a powerful presence here in Germany from the UK. It´s nearly all gone now. No wondour Putin is sizing us up.

[Darren Avey]

The way this country treats current and ex soliders is a disgrace. You know in countrys like Poland anyone that fought in the war is considered like almost royalty. Very good state pension, all sorts of other benefits. And fucking right too, if it weren't for them.....

[local hero]

When you have a country full of takers (55% take out more than they put in) you know you're in trouble.

Blame the bosses though.  People of my "ilk" provide jobs, opportunities, and security (do you know how hard it is to fire someone versus how easy it is to quit?).  These are the people a country needs and the politics of envy ("I hate the Tories") stirred up by you cretins drags everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

You should be calling me "sir" and ask what you can do for me with the taxes my "ilk" have paid to give you the NHS and state school education.  Although on that latter point if you'd ever put any money in you should be asking for it back now...

Ha, as I said im your physical superior if theres anyone saying yes sir it would be your self...

We also pay taxes, full taxes I may add, no fancy acountancy for paye employees.... so you tell me, why should I vote for a government who will revoke workers rights and trys to sell the fairy tale that is trickle down economics?

[Donny]

The way this country treats current and ex soliders is a disgrace. You know in countrys like Poland anyone that fought in the war is considered like almost royalty. Very good state pension, all sorts of other benefits. And fucking right too, if it weren't for them.....

I write on Facebook on ex BAOR and other sites and i can tell you Cameron is Hated by them. People forced out their Homes with his Bedroom tax and he discriminates invalids. the man is a Disgrace to the UK. I met a guy over here a while ago who did his 22yrs and they Brown enveloped him(sacked him) just so he missed out on a payment on retirement from the Army. Fucking scum Bastards.

[HonestBob]

Ha, as I said im your physical superior if theres anyone saying yes sir it would be your self...

We also pay taxes, full taxes I may add, no fancy acountancy for paye employees.... so you tell me, why should I vote for a government who will revoke workers rights and trys to sell the fairy tale that is trickle down economics?

1) I am 6ft 3 and at my last shoot I was 118kg at circa 5/6% BF.  If you are bigger than me I would salute you and call you sir with honour.

2) You are probably tougher than me, but I have men to do my bidding so that's irrelevant.

3) All successful countries encourage free enterprise because it is that enterprise that creates the taxes to pay for your socialist pipe dream.  The nations that are mired in socialism are failing nations, this is an irrefutable fact.

4) Do not confuse right wing economic views with being some kind of Nazi who wants to eradicate social support / welfare / community.  Most sensible right wingers merely think as I do that by supporting a meritocratic society you generate enough taxes to support a fully functioning and benevolent society.

5) The single most important factor in all voting behaviour is self interest and perception of money.  This governs the Labour Party and their quest for the bottom 35 % as that is all they need for a majority of seats.  If we accept this as human nature and also accept that we live in a highly competitive "globalised" world then UK plc needs to do everything it can to retain talent (countries that lose talent - France / Spain / Scotland where iq is lower than England due to the brain drain) and if that means enticing companies / the rich then on balance (not for everything) we are better off for it.  For example, I would prefer to pay all my corporate taxes to the UK but I have my Intellectual Property co in a different jurisdiction as this saves me a huge amount of money.  No one can stop me doing this, it is perfectly legal and natural as I have locally based businesses that have to be domiciled in these countries as well, but if the UK was competitive with them I wouldn't do it.  And if I don't do it my competition will and then I will not be able to expand as I want and this would cost revenue / jobs in the UK (where we are sourcing new growth in Glasgow and the North of England right now).

6) workers rights: the UK is awash with workers rights.  Go to the USA to see how it should be.  I have been sued for made up bullshit many times - the boot is always on the foot of the employee and the employer needs to tread carefully at all times.  It is even worse in socialist countries where it is impossible to fire anyone (France/Spain) and again these countries are fucked because of lack of the right movement of labour.

[Henda]

Cameron should be fucking assassinated, plastic faced puff of peace

[local hero]

1) I am 6ft 3 and at my last shoot I was 118kg at circa 5/6% BF.  If you are bigger than me I would salute you and call you sir with honour.

2) You are probably tougher than me, but I have men to do my bidding so that's irrelevant.

3) All successful countries encourage free enterprise because it is that enterprise that creates the taxes to pay for your socialist pipe dream.  The nations that are mired in socialism are failing nations, this is an irrefutable fact.

4) Do not confuse right wing economic views with being some kind of Nazi who wants to eradicate social support / welfare / community.  Most sensible right wingers merely think as I do that by supporting a meritocratic society you generate enough taxes to support a fully functioning and benevolent society.

5) The single most important factor in all voting behaviour is self interest and perception of money.  This governs the Labour Party and their quest for the bottom 35 % as that is all they need for a majority of seats.  If we accept this as human nature and also accept that we live in a highly competitive "globalised" world then UK plc needs to do everything it can to retain talent (countries that lose talent - France / Spain / Scotland where iq is lower than England due to the brain drain) and if that means enticing companies / the rich then on balance (not for everything) we are better off for it.  For example, I would prefer to pay all my corporate taxes to the UK but I have my Intellectual Property co in a different jurisdiction as this saves me a huge amount of money.  No one can stop me doing this, it is perfectly legal and natural as I have locally based businesses that have to be domiciled in these countries as well, but if the UK was competitive with them I wouldn't do it.  And if I don't do it my competition will and then I will not be able to expand as I want and this would cost revenue / jobs in the UK (where we are sourcing new growth in Glasgow and the North of England right now).

6) workers rights: the UK is awash with workers rights.  Go to the USA to see how it should be.  I have been sued for made up bullshit many times - the boot is always on the foot of the employee and the employer needs to tread carefully at all times.  It is even worse in socialist countries where it is impossible to fire anyone (France/Spain) and again these countries are fucked because of lack of the right movement of labour.

I will tip my hard hat to you sir if you are that weight at that bodyfat, I've been heavier but my best ripped weight is 17.7st, altho I did hit 19st and looked ripped on a rebound, this of course was a temporary thing

Regarding your points on rights, we have fewer now than ever and will have less under your party, which is why I would never vote Tory, and this is why any paye employee will never vote Tory, as Donny has said most of the armed forces are against them, as are the fire brigade etc

The politics of the few vs the many, as I said earlier the trickle down economics doesn't work in the real world, altho you will claim otherwise

[Donny]

http://www.rotten-core.com/nude-pics-david-camerons-nanny-posted-sex-site/

[denarii]

[denarii]

thats to do with the debt bubble. which inflates demand versus the level of demand without net borrowing. put simply your own labour party with its deficits inflated an otherwise weak economy and most of that artificial demand fell into the pockets of the wealthy and the asset owners given the underlying weak wage growth.

here is another chart for the local mongol to mull over. how could it possibly be that is a competitive global market the wealth inequality is equal to the peak of the 20s boom? there was no cheap manufacturing that many of you like to complain about then.