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doesn't it seem odd, tho?   Bernie is 20 points back in the polls.  Hilary has a war chest and bernie will do HORRIBLE in the south.  He is doing nicely in new england because he's from there, they dislike hilary, and they're a bunch of liberals.  Imagine how Bernie does in south carolina lol.

Trump attacking Sanders... very odd.  UNLESS you believe Trump is coordinating with NBC to give hilary the win and make sanders a joke.  then it makes perfect sense.
Uh, 10,000 came out to see Bernie Sanders in NC the other day with only 2 days notice.  The venue could not hold anymore.  That is more than Barack Obama was able to muster at the same time.


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Of course you did.  The ad accomplished its intent which is to lure and entertain low intelligent retards.  



This is when you know that you've lost. Resorting to insults is something i haven't seen you do yet. You were never the sharpest tool in the shed, (clearly) but you've stooped to a new low with that comment.

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It's funny because idiocracy is the PERFECT way to describe the people following Sanders...All for selfish reasons and put the country LAST

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Uh, 10,000 came out to see Bernie Sanders in NC the other day with only 2 days notice.  The venue could not hold anymore.  That is more than Barack Obama was able to muster at the same time.



I want this race to be Cruz vs Sanders.

Cause Trump vs hilary is just Rino vs Rino, nothing changes.

I just dont see how she loses.  The media is LOVING her today.   They want bernie pushed to the side, and it;ll happen.  Bernie wrecked the online polls (like ron pail in 2008 and 2012) and we never heard about it, just the opinoin of pundits who were kissing hilarys ass for 2 decades.

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I want this race to be Cruz vs Sanders.

Cause Trump vs hilary is just Rino vs Rino, nothing changes.

I just dont see how she loses.  The media is LOVING her today.   They want bernie pushed to the side, and it;ll happen.  Bernie wrecked the online polls (like ron pail in 2008 and 2012) and we never heard about it, just the opinoin of pundits who were kissing hilarys ass for 2 decades.



Once Trumps campaign really kicks off...Nobody will be able to match his firepower

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Once Trumps campaign really kicks off...Nobody will be able to match his firepower

yeah, people are celebrating Carson being in 2nd, but imagine when trump really gets creative and spending $ and showing new sides of him that people will adore, particularly the repub base who really love the guy.


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It's funny because idiocracy is the PERFECT way to describe the people following Sanders...All for selfish reasons and put the country LAST

ya income inequality a rigged and corrupt system is best for the country.

Nothing he is saying is out of line, he is correct, factually so.

The vast majority of wealth goes to the top 1%, this will only worsen as automation and segmentation occur naturally, you have an oligarchy, better yet a plutocracy.

You are putting ideology, a failed one ahead of the country. Humans are more important then capitalism, it ultimately leads to oligarchy every time.Humans need to wake the fuck up, stop thinking about the economy, news etc and focus on real fucking problems. There is such a long way to go for humans


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ya income inequality a rigged and corrupt system is best for the country.

Nothing he is saying is out of line, he is correct, factually so.

The vast majority of wealth goes to the top 1%, this will only worsen as automation and segmentation occur naturally, you have an oligarchy, better yet a plutocracy.

You are putting ideology, a failed one ahead of the country. Humans are more important then capitalism, it ultimately leads to oligarchy every time.Humans need to wake the fuck up, stop thinking about the economy, news etc and focus on real fucking problems. There is such a long way to go for humans



Yes, exactly.  It seems we are doomed to have this happen, simply because so few people understand it.

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ya income inequality a rigged and corrupt system is best for the country.

Nothing he is saying is out of line, he is correct, factually so.

The vast majority of wealth goes to the top 1%, this will only worsen as automation and segmentation occur naturally, you have an oligarchy, better yet a plutocracy.

You are putting ideology, a failed one ahead of the country. Humans are more important then capitalism, it ultimately leads to oligarchy every time.Humans need to wake the fuck up, stop thinking about the economy, news etc and focus on real fucking problems. There is such a long way to go for humans



What about planned parent hood, Obama's communist agenda, gay marriage, getting taxed by the federal government into poverty to help those lazy ones who choose poverty and Hillary's Emails?

Seriously Necrosis, you need to smarten up and get your priorities straight.  ;D :D ;)

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ya income inequality a rigged and corrupt system is best for the country.

Nothing he is saying is out of line, he is correct, factually so.

The vast majority of wealth goes to the top 1%, this will only worsen as automation and segmentation occur naturally, you have an oligarchy, better yet a plutocracy.

You are putting ideology, a failed one ahead of the country. Humans are more important then capitalism, it ultimately leads to oligarchy every time.Humans need to wake the fuck up, stop thinking about the economy, news etc and focus on real fucking problems. There is such a long way to go for humans



why does everyone think that expanding welfare programs will cure this income inequality?

it doesn't.  all it does is open the drain on the economy a little more.

it's a band aid solution.  a strong economy spreads wealth.  these people need jobs and opportunity.  not handouts.

the problem is people will vote for what they want right now.  not what's best for the country.  that's what the entire Democratic campaign has been about for the past 30 years.  keeping the poor people happy but by all means necessary keeping them poor.  this is hardly a new idea. 

it does sound great on the campaign trail though.  and a lot of you are eating it up.  because these elections are simply colorful marketing campaigns promising a lot but producing very little.


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why does everyone think that expanding welfare programs will cure this income inequality?

it doesn't.  all it does is open the drain on the economy a little more.

it's a band aid solution.  a strong economy spreads wealth.  these people need jobs and opportunity.  not handouts.

the problem is people will vote for what they want right now.  not what's best for the country.  that's what the entire Democratic campaign has been about for the past 30 years.  keeping the poor people happy but by all means necessary keeping them poor.  this is hardly a new idea. 

it does sound great on the campaign trail though.  and a lot of you are eating it up.  because these elections are simply colorful marketing campaigns promising a lot but producing very little.



Who says that?

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why does everyone think that expanding welfare programs will cure this income inequality?

it doesn't.  all it does is open the drain on the economy a little more.

it's a band aid solution.  a strong economy spreads wealth.  these people need jobs and opportunity.  not handouts.

the problem is people will vote for what they want right now.  not what's best for the country.  that's what the entire Democratic campaign has been about for the past 30 years.  keeping the poor people happy but by all means necessary keeping them poor.  this is hardly a new idea. 

it does sound great on the campaign trail though.  and a lot of you are eating it up.  because these elections are simply colorful marketing campaigns promising a lot but producing very little.



By all means, please show us the way.  Give your specific proposal!

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Who says that?

are you fucking kidding?  have you been following the democratic candidates at all?

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are you fucking kidding?  have you been following the democratic candidates at all?

Who says expanding welfare programs will cure income equality?


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are you fucking kidding?  have you been following the democratic candidates at all?

I think he responded like that because you quoted my post and then made up an argument I didn't make.

The way big business operates is a huge issue, did you see how much money Facebook paid in taxes? less then a middle class family, that's not fair, that's downright fucking immoral and unethical. Fairness is all that is needed, that's it.

Is is fair that a CEO earns a hundred times other employee's? is the fact that people like martine shkreli can buy a drug for a rare disease (thus a monopoly) and increase the price 3500% overnight? on the basis that comparitively so, other life saving treatments like aids medication can cost 100k, thus because it is a life saving treatment there is equity in it's effect. Sure that's good economic thinking, but is it ethical? fuck no, the system allows this, it's broke obviously.

If everyone is a community needed water and you inherited a fortune and could thus buy the lake and sell it to people. That's fucked up? it happens, the rights of those unable to purchase such things, due to circumstance, geography, age (a child) etc are usurped, because of money. That's capitalism, once you tie it to human needs, it will eventually cause what we are seeing now. The lake shouldn't be for sale, it's priceless and in reality tied to no man.

Human psychology is important as well, if you were lucky enough to be born into the a wealthy banker family, would you look to increase your gains or pull others up aka help someone. Most people are greedy by nature, altruism is fleeting, they will store the money away in offshore accounts, they can't possibly spend it. Money doesn't increase happiness (a well known fact) to a certain point, they have excess and store excess while others starve. Let that sink in, there are people dying from circumstance, living breathing humans suffering on a level we can't fathom, while a rich person has 10 billion stowed away, evading taxes, which is unfair and in turn could help those in actual need.

I understand there are people who would take advantage, I think people being lazy and taking advantage of minimal benefits (a shit home, little income) is much better then rich people taking advantage of everyone, is it not? A crackhead isn't causing issues of significant magnitude, the koch brothers are, they are raping the earth, do you not see the egregious violations of regulations at every turn? they are avoid penalty due to money, that's capitalism, what is ethical or fair about that? why would anyone support something like that? it's un-human, fuck a country, it's in direct contravention to humanity.

With money first and humans second, we will continue to spiral to our doom, it's only common sense , one painfully obvious.

Think Big Picture, what if you could start over? would you do things differently? if so, things probably need a change.

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Who says expanding welfare programs will cure income equality?



It wouldn't, not even close, the etiology of the problem is so much deeper.

It's like pouring water into a bucket with a hole, retarded.

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Still don't know which Democratic politician has come out in favor of expanding welfare

should be pretty easy to find that quote or quotes

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Who says expanding welfare programs will cure income equality?



Isn't that the basis of "trickle down economics"?

Corporate welfare will give more money to the people at the bottom?

Except it didn't?


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Isn't that the basis of "trickle down economics"?

Corporate welfare will give more money to the people at the bottom?

Except it didn't?



Yes.  That is what the basis of the "principle" proposed. 

We see how that turned out.

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It's based on the idea that we have unlimited available wealth, which simply does NOT hold true.

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I think he responded like that because you quoted my post and then made up an argument I didn't make.




That's what i thought.  But i didn't watch the debates.  So i am asking where does someone say: "expanding welfare programs will cure income equality?"

Because that seems retarded.  It looks more like the repub propaganda machine on "auto".  But i could be wrong.  So, BEARS  where is it?

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It's based on the idea that we have unlimited available wealth, which simply does NOT hold true.

What is based on this idea?

I just want to make sure I know what we are talking about.

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What is based on this idea?

I just want to make sure I know what we are talking about.

Plans like "trickle-down" economics.


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Plans like "trickle-down" economics.



Ah. Yes... They never seem to pan out do they?

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Ah. Yes... They never seem to pan out do they?

Even the basic idea that the wealthy have something "special" that allows them to "create jobs" is absurd.  Most wealthy people I know are so disconnected from reality, it's lucky if they can do anything but plan their next super-expensive vacation or $1000+ restaurant visit.