Official abortion thread! Post your views and why.

[Irongrip400]

I keep seeing this shit brought up in so many different threads, and I actually thought about posting this after driving by a Planned Parenthood office (randomly) and saw 4-5 people outside picketing.  It made me think, are any of our resident Getbiggers there now, either outside or in?  I would like to first state my thoughts on abortion, as if you cared.

I personally think it is wrong, and having two small children could never think of doing it or agreeing with it when used as a solution to failed birth control methods.  That said, I do think it should be the woman's choice, and that in the case of rape/incest/or threat to the mothers life, I would never have a problem with it.  A woman who does it for reasons of convenience will have to deal with her decision on her own, with her own conscience, in this life (or the next).  Women bare a huge responsibility with their ability to grow and give birth to children.  There are things that go with that responsibility, like having the right to choose what you would want to do with your own body.

I think the reason that I think ill of it, is because I have been in an ultrasound room, and seen that these unborn babies, are after a few months, living beings.  They can't deal with being outside on their own, but they have organs and living tissue.  I find it hard to believe, that anyone who has had this experience, would be "okay" with the practice, but I think most level headed individuals would agree that it is the woman's right to choose. 

The reason for my above response, is because I would like to know if any of the posters who are "okay" with abortion, have kids or not.  I'm not trying ot get into a bunch of hate speech between members, or thoughts on God etc., but just what everybody's thoughts are on this subject.  Any takers?

[Irongrip400]

the Germans were big it a few decades ago

 

[JOHN MATRIX]

if done for convenience-which most of it is- then it is a barbaric, evil practice.

[whork]

Im pro-abortion.

I hate wearing a condom, and i have no interest in paying bills for the rest of my life.

[Irongrip400]

Im pro-abortion.

I hate wearing a condom, and i have no interest in paying bills for the rest of my life.

Do you have, or do you ever want children?

[T-REX007]

Birth control is available everywhere practically, and often its free to obtain, everybody knows how "getting pregnant" happens... in today's society abortion shouldn't be necessary, but here we are.....

All you pro abortion folks... what if YOU were aborted-?  and don't say the usual " then I wouldn't know it or wouldn't be here..." BS

An abortion is the result of making a BAD CHOICE- PERIOD

Rape is maybe 1-2 % of abortions, obviously anybody raped should have the option, other than that- NO

[Dos Equis]

Birth control is available everywhere practically, and often its free to obtain, everybody knows how "getting pregnant" happens... in today's society abortion shouldn't be necessary, but here we are.....

All you pro abortion folks... what if YOU were aborted-?  and don't say the usual " then I wouldn't know it or wouldn't be here..." BS

An abortion is the result of making a BAD CHOICE- PERIOD

Rape is maybe 1-2 % of abortions, obviously anybody raped should have the option, other than that- NO

Not always.  Sometimes birth control fails. 

[avxo]

Birth control is available everywhere practically, and often its free to obtain, everybody knows how "getting pregnant" happens... in today's society abortion shouldn't be necessary, but here we are.....

And yet, this free and readily available birth control you speak of isn't bulletproof.

All you pro abortion folks... what if YOU were aborted-?  and don't say the usual " then I wouldn't know it or wouldn't be here..." BS

"what if YOU were aborted?" isn't an argument.

An abortion is the result of making a BAD CHOICE- PERIOD

Really? What "BAD CHOICE" did Elizabeth Waltrip made? Her son was born with hydranencephaly - he didn't have a brain -  through no fault of hers. While she didn't have an abortion, should she not have had the option available to her because you think it all boils down to "BAD CHOICE"?

Rape is maybe 1-2 % of abortions, obviously anybody raped should have the option, other than that- NO

Really? Flat out "NO"? Even before 20 weeks? What about cases where the pregnancy is risking the life of the expectant mother?

[Davidtheman100]

Yes abortions should be allowed...If not for anything for population control...We already have over 7 billion on the earth and growing...Tons of resources being used...If we can limit the population in the most humane way possible then we must do that...Plus there is no point in bringing a child into the world that is going to live a poor, miserable life..

[whork]

Do you have, or do you ever want children?

No and no.

[T-REX007]

How many abortions since '73 ?  Maybe 40 million ?

 

[avxo]

How many abortions since '73 ?  Maybe 40 million ?

 

I was a bit shocked by that number, so I did some research. It's a universally accepted figure and a shocking one at that, to be sure. But let's take a step back for a second and look at the numbers.

According to the United Nations, about 21,000 people die of hunger or hunger-related causes every day. Let's round that number down to 20,000. This works out to 7,300,000 deaths per year, almost all of which could have been prevented. And this 7,300,000 figure doesn't include the those who die because they lack access to clean water (another million deaths per year), or they contract of malaria transmitted by mosquitoes (another 500,000 deaths per year), or they contract measles, rubella, pertussis, or diphtheria (a few hundred thousand deaths per year).

So, a little over 8,000,000 of our fellow humans die of hunger and dirty water every year. About 15 of them will die during the time it will take you to read this post. Let that sink in for a moment.

That's not to say that we should just whitewash the approximately 1,000,000 abortions per year happening in the United States. But I do find it interesting - and a bit sad - that people who are so intensely devoted to fighting for the "unborn" don't wish to care for or help the born...

[The True Adonis]

I keep seeing this shit brought up in so many different threads, and I actually thought about posting this after driving by a Planned Parenthood office (randomly) and saw 4-5 people outside picketing.  It made me think, are any of our resident Getbiggers there now, either outside or in?  I would like to first state my thoughts on abortion, as if you cared.

I personally think it is wrong, and having two small children could never think of doing it or agreeing with it when used as a solution to failed birth control methods.  That said, I do think it should be the woman's choice, and that in the case of rape/incest/or threat to the mothers life, I would never have a problem with it.  A woman who does it for reasons of convenience will have to deal with her decision on her own, with her own conscience, in this life (or the next).  Women bare a huge responsibility with their ability to grow and give birth to children.  There are things that go with that responsibility, like having the right to choose what you would want to do with your own body.

I think the reason that I think ill of it, is because I have been in an ultrasound room, and seen that these unborn babies, are after a few months, living beings.  They can't deal with being outside on their own, but they have organs and living tissue.  I find it hard to believe, that anyone who has had this experience, would be "okay" with the practice, but I think most level headed individuals would agree that it is the woman's right to choose. 

The reason for my above response, is because I would like to know if any of the posters who are "okay" with abortion, have kids or not.  I'm not trying ot get into a bunch of hate speech between members, or thoughts on God etc., but just what everybody's thoughts are on this subject.  Any takers?

Plants are living and have organs with living and growing tissue. 

I think all the people who want to force mother's to have unborn should be taxed for those children as a result.  They should be willing to pay for the black babies or the white methhead's children since they want them on this earth so much whereas the parents may not.  Let the anti-abortion supporters pick up the tab.  Besides, every single problem we face today is because of overpopulation and an increasing birth rate.  That is the root cause of all man made problems.

Furthermore this video explains why abortion is very important to society and making sure it stays legal. 

[Davidtheman100]

Plants are living and have organs with living and growing tissue. 

I think all the people who want to force mother's to have unborn should be taxed for those children as a result.  They should be willing to pay for the black babies or the white methhead's children since they want them on this earth so much whereas the parents may not.  Let the anti-abortion supporters pick up the tab.  Besides, every single problem we face today is because of overpopulation and an increasing birth rate.  That is the root cause of all man made problems.

Furthermore this video explains why abortion is very important to society and making sure it stays legal. 

I love how it's "black babies" but "white methheads"

[bears]

I was a bit shocked by that number, so I did some research. It's a universally accepted figure and a shocking one at that, to be sure. But let's take a step back for a second and look at the numbers.

According to the United Nations, about 21,000 people die of hunger or hunger-related causes every day. Let's round that number down to 20,000. This works out to 7,300,000 deaths per year, almost all of which could have been prevented. And this 7,300,000 figure doesn't include the those who die because they lack access to clean water (another million deaths per year), or they contract of malaria transmitted by mosquitoes (another 500,000 deaths per year), or they contract measles, rubella, pertussis, or diphtheria (a few hundred thousand deaths per year).

So, a little over 8,000,000 of our fellow humans die of hunger and dirty water every year. About 15 of them will die during the time it will take you to read this post. Let that sink in for a moment.

That's not to say that we should just whitewash the approximately 1,000,000 abortions per year happening in the United States. But I do find it interesting - and a bit sad - that people who are so intensely devoted to fighting for the "unborn" don't wish to care for or help the born...

I'll play devils advocate.

this is the exact argument that the original pro choice advocates back in the 1970's said that they would not use.  the fear from conservatives was that abortion would become a tool for social engineering.  Orwellian type shit.  destroying the sanctity of human life.  Pro choice advocates in the 1970's called these conservatives fuckin wackjobs and said that abortion was a last resort for women in trouble, not a tool for social engineering.  They were crazy to think that this procedure would be used for a purpose like that.    

time heals all though.  now no one remembers that and here we are in 2015 and this is the go to argument for most pro choice advocates.
  
at the end of the day, killing people is ALWAYS easier than taking care of them.  

I don't feel good about where this line of reasoning is going.  

I thought abortion was about helping women in need?  now its about social engineering?  
 

[Straw Man]

very simple

if you're against abortion then you are free to choose not to have one

if you don't have a womb then you don't get a choice

[Dos Equis]

I thought abortion was about helping women in need?  now its about social engineering?  
 

Planned Parenthood was founded by a woman in part for the purpose of social engineering. 

[whork]

very simple

if you're against abortion then you are free to choose not to have one

if you don't have a womb then you don't get a choice

Sounds fair.

[Davidtheman100]

I was a bit shocked by that number, so I did some research. It's a universally accepted figure and a shocking one at that, to be sure. But let's take a step back for a second and look at the numbers.

According to the United Nations, about 21,000 people die of hunger or hunger-related causes every day. Let's round that number down to 20,000. This works out to 7,300,000 deaths per year, almost all of which could have been prevented. And this 7,300,000 figure doesn't include the those who die because they lack access to clean water (another million deaths per year), or they contract of malaria transmitted by mosquitoes (another 500,000 deaths per year), or they contract measles, rubella, pertussis, or diphtheria (a few hundred thousand deaths per year).

So, a little over 8,000,000 of our fellow humans die of hunger and dirty water every year. About 15 of them will die during the time it will take you to read this post. Let that sink in for a moment.

That's not to say that we should just whitewash the approximately 1,000,000 abortions per year happening in the United States. But I do find it interesting - and a bit sad - that people who are so intensely devoted to fighting for the "unborn" don't wish to care for or help the born...

We need people to die in fact we need people to die at a faster rate then they are now...Look at things like the US oil consumption and look at the use of resources we have, and resources readily available in the world compared to how much we consume...We can't keep doing this....Look at all the forests being chopped down to build houses...How they're cramming suburbs that used to have tons of yards between each house...they're building condos everywhere...Constructio n workers at an all-time high in the cities and the job for tradesmen and nurses outlook is pretty significant in the future as far as demand goes...We cannot cut off those resources of killing people justifiably...This is the harsh truth..We need this

[JOHN MATRIX]

very simple

if you're against abortion then you are free to choose not to have one

if you don't have a womb then you don't get a choice

what choice does the baby have?

all these pro'choice' arguments are wrong on their face because it completely takes away responsibility from the individual (a common theme in the democrat party  )

[240 is Back]

Planned Parenthood was founded by a woman in part for the purpose of social engineering. 

explain, please.

[Dos Equis]

explain, please.

www.google.com

[Straw Man]

what choice does the baby have?

all these pro'choice' arguments are wrong on their face because it completely takes away responsibility from the individual (a common theme in the democrat party  )

what baby

also having an abortion can be a very responsible act by an individual so perfectly in line with that imaginary belief you have about the democratic party

[240 is Back]

www.google.com

yeah, i didn't think you'd be able to back up that social engineering thing.

[Dos Equis]

yeah, i didn't think you'd be able to back up that social engineering thing.

Nah.  That's just me telling a dishonest troll (you) to go pound sand.