Afghanistan - USA pulls out and Taliban moves in right away

[ProudVirgin69]

They just used us against the Russians.

Sure, and we were happy to do it.  Similarly, the Chinese are pragmatic enough to ally with the Taliban now.

[ProudVirgin69]

We wanted the Taliban to turn over bin Laden, but they refused, hence the war.   

Shooing the Taliban into the hills for nearly 20 years gave the Afghanis – especially the girls and women - a taste of freedom.  It seems imminent that it will all go away.  Very sad and soon to be tragic.

Yes, shooing the Taliban into the hills let the pedophile warlords that we supported fill the vacuum:

Rampant sexual abuse of children has long been a problem in Afghanistan, particularly among armed commanders who dominate much of the rural landscape and can bully the population. The practice is called bacha bazi, literally “boy play,” and American soldiers and Marines have been instructed not to intervene — in some cases, not even when their Afghan allies have abused boys on military bases, according to interviews and court records.

The policy has endured as American forces have recruited and organized Afghan militias to help hold territory against the Taliban. But soldiers and Marines have been increasingly troubled that instead of weeding out pedophiles, the American military was arming them in some cases and placing them as the commanders of villages — and doing little when they began abusing children.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html


The US military supported, hosted, & armed known pedophile warlords.  Think about that, and what it means about you that you support this.

[Irongrip400]

Man these dudes are rolling. I’m following it on BBC and they’ve taken another regional capital, a traditional anti taliban stronghold and are within 25 miles of Kabul. I was reading that some generals believe they’ll begin the assault on Kabul within weeks and the government could collapse in as little as 90 days. I’m thinking they could pull this shit off in a week. The Afghan army is literally giving up without a fight.

Does this just prove that they never wanted our Western way of life to begin with? Is this an example of what happens when a generation of men go soft? Maybe they’d rather have their women in burqas and out of school by 12 

[King Shizzo]

Man these dudes are rolling. I’m following it on BBC and they’ve taken another regional capital, a traditional anti taliban stronghold and are within 25 miles of Kabul. I was reading that some generals believe they’ll begin the assault on Kabul within weeks and the government could collapse in as little as 90 days. I’m thinking they could pull this shit off in a week. The Afghan army is literally giving up without a fight.

Does this just prove that they never wanted our Western way of life to begin with? Is this an example of what happens when a generation of men go soft? Maybe they’d rather have their women in burqas and out of school by 12 

That's when the rest of the world says: take care of your fucking selves.

Just like Black Hawk Down in Africa. Fuck these countries and their civil wars. It's not our problem. Stop sending boyscouts to stamp out rivalries that have lasted for thousands of years. Either oppress them, or leave them to themselves.

[ThisisOverload]

Man these dudes are rolling. I’m following it on BBC and they’ve taken another regional capital, a traditional anti taliban stronghold and are within 25 miles of Kabul. I was reading that some generals believe they’ll begin the assault on Kabul within weeks and the government could collapse in as little as 90 days. I’m thinking they could pull this shit off in a week. The Afghan army is literally giving up without a fight.

Does this just prove that they never wanted our Western way of life to begin with? Is this an example of what happens when a generation of men go soft? Maybe they’d rather have their women in burqas and out of school by 12 

You can't change these people.

It's been their way of life for centuries.

They do not want a Democracy.

Afgan, Irag, Syria, Jordan, etc. All will remain the cesspools they are no matter what we do.

Most Americans do not understand the mentality of these people. They want nothing to do with our way of life.

Many of them are only a few generations away from primitive animals.

American government tried to force this upon them because that's what we do best.

Everything we have done in the middle east over the last 30 years was for our own benefit.

It will all collapse and return to total shit.

[oldtimer1]

You can't change these people.

It's been their way of life for centuries.

They do not want a Democracy.

Afgan, Irag, Syria, Jordan, etc. All will remain the cesspools they are no matter what we do.

Most Americans do not understand the mentality of these people. They want nothing to do with our way of life.

Many of them are only a few generations away from primitive animals.

American government tried to force this upon them because that's what we do best.

Everything we have done in the middle east over the last 30 years was for our own benefit.

It will all collapse and return to total shit.

You're right they are one step away from cavemen. The problem is they have RPG and AK 47's.

[IroNat]

You can't change these people.

It's been their way of life for centuries.

They do not want a Democracy.

Afgan, Irag, Syria, Jordan, etc. All will remain the cesspools they are no matter what we do.

Most Americans do not understand the mentality of these people. They want nothing to do with our way of life.

Many of them are only a few generations away from primitive animals.

American government tried to force this upon them because that's what we do best.

Everything we have done in the middle east over the last 30 years was for our own benefit.

It will all collapse and return to total shit.

This.

The reason we went into Afghan had nothing to do with Democracy and all that crap.

Afghanistan was seen as a strategic location for the control of oil in the Middle East.

[IRON CROSS]

You're right they are one step away from cavemen. The problem is they have RPG and AK 47's.

& tonne's of brand new American gear , thanks to Biden .................

yesterday they got choppers too 

[IroNat]

& tonne's of brand new American gear , thanks to Biden .................

yesterday they got choppers too 

We can sell them parts $$!

[IRON CROSS]

This.

The reason we went into Afghan had nothing to do with Democracy and all that crap.

Afghanistan was seen as a strategic location for the control of oil in the Middle East.

Central Asia is militarily lost for NATO !.

+ 3000 Western boys died for NOTHING !.

[Humble Narcissist]

You can't change these people.

It's been their way of life for centuries.

They do not want a Democracy.

Afgan, Irag, Syria, Jordan, etc. All will remain the cesspools they are no matter what we do.

Most Americans do not understand the mentality of these people. They want nothing to do with our way of life.

Many of them are only a few generations away from primitive animals.

American government tried to force this upon them because that's what we do best.

Everything we have done in the middle east over the last 30 years was for our own benefit.

It will all collapse and return to total shit.

Dead on accurate.  We should never lift a finger to help these savages again.

[Moontrane]

this is false

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
if bringing bin laden to justice was the main objective, it could have been done without a war at all.  George Bush sacrificed American lives and wasted trillions of dollars all in the name of generating profits for Halliburton et al.  Anyone you know who lost life or limb for this war did so for nothing, just a sheer waste.

Did you read the article?  The Taliban demanded proof of bin Laden’s guilt.  We could have given them bin Laden’s signed confession, and they would have rejected it. 

[ProudVirgin69]

Did you read the article?  The Taliban demanded proof of bin Laden’s guilt.  We could have given them bin Laden’s signed confession, and they would have rejected it.

why would they turn a fellow countryman over without evidence of his guilt?  If the US was interested in avoiding war, they could have attempted diplomatic channels first.  But that wouldn't have generated lucrative military contracts.

[ProudVirgin69]

Donald Rumsfeld had the opportunity to capture bin laden early on but denied requests for reinforcements and let him walk away to Pakistan.  From the Senate report:

But the Al Qaeda leader would live to fight another day.
Fewer than 100 American commandos were on the scene with their
Afghan allies, and calls for reinforcements to launch an
assault were rejected. Requests were also turned down for U.S.
troops to block the mountain paths leading to sanctuary a few
miles away in Pakistan. The vast array of American military
power, from sniper teams to the most mobile divisions of the
Marine Corps and the Army, was kept on the sidelines. Instead,
the U.S. command chose to rely on airstrikes and untrained
Afghan militias to attack bin Laden and on Pakistan's loosely
organized Frontier Corps to seal his escape routes. On or
around December 16, two days after writing his will, bin Laden
and an entourage of bodyguards walked unmolested out of Tora
Bora and disappeared into Pakistan's unregulated tribal area.
Most analysts say he is still there today.
    The decision not to deploy American forces to go after bin
Laden or block his escape was made by Secretary of Defense
Donald Rumsfeld and his top commander, Gen. Tommy Franks, the
architects of the unconventional Afghan battle plan known as
Operation Enduring Freedom. Rumsfeld said at the time that he
was concerned that too many U.S. troops in Afghanistan would
create an anti-American backlash and fuel a widespread
insurgency.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-111SPRT53709/html/CPRT-111SPRT53709.htm

[Irongrip400]

They took Jalalabad last night and now have encircled Kabul. It’s over, down goes Frazier.

[a_pupil]

The taliban are great warriors. Where's the warriors on the government side, they're Afghans as well  . They're doing worse than phil heath at the last olympia.

[Flexacon]

The taliban are great warriors. Where's the warriors on the government side, they're Afghans as well  . They're doing worse than phil heath at the last olympia.

It's more the religious fundamentalism that make the Taliban great warriors. Regular Afgans, not so much.

[IroNat]

It's just a day job for the "Afghan Army".

At 5pm they punch out and go back to being Talibanners.

[Hypertrophy]

China wants to become buddies with the Taliban now. Oh boy, this ought to be fun, haha. I wonder if the Uyghurs will come up in their discussions 

[B_B_C]

China wants to become buddies with the Taliban now. Oh boy, this ought to be fun, haha. I wonder if the Uyghurs will come up in their discussions 

letting the Chinese to the Taliban could be a US masterstroke

[Thin Lizzy]

The taliban are great warriors. Where's the warriors on the government side, they're Afghans as well  . They're doing worse than phil heath at the last olympia.

I heard Wolf Blitzer make that same analogy on CNN😂😂

That said, the more important question is whether the Taliban are all wearing masks and adhering to strict social distancing guidelines.🤔

[GymnJuice]

letting the Chinese to the Taliban could be a US masterstroke

I think they have interest in the area as part of their belt and road initiative.  They might end up competing with the Russians there.  Who knows. 

[Megalodon]

The imaginary inroads to complete nonsense that our gov and media are behind.



What a loss for gender studies.



Being forced to wear masks and stay out of public. That's something we'll never have to deal with. 



Jennifer Rubins are a lot scarier than the Taliban. A journalist who used to gaslight is now openly admitting her hatred against Whites. This is half our government now. This is who are tracking down White "supremacists". And this is who is behind flooding the US with refugees to lower the percentage of Whites in the US.

Let's worry about our own borders.

[SOMEPARTS]

You guys worried about Afghanistan when they are actively importing a replacement population in the USA at warp speed. 

Fuck that place and those people. That article on the last post is the agenda.

Replacement of the majority with a stupid, obedient, complacent, powerless, resourceless, brainwashed group to easily control and manipulate.

[ProudVirgin69]

You guys worried about Afghanistan when they are actively importing a replacement population in the USA at warp speed. 

Fuck that place and those people. That article on the last post is the agenda.

Replacement of the majority with a stupid, obedient, complacent, powerless, resourceless, brainwashed group to easily control and manipulate.

It's important to stress how much of a waste this war truly was, to keep public opinion against starting another expensive military boondoggle on the other side of the globe.

All the lives lost were wasted, flat out.  The trillions of dollars spent, wasted.  USA lost this war--its not even close.  Hell even the USSR kept their Red Party in power for a couple years. 

George Bush, Cheney, Powell - they should all be hanged for this and Iraq.  It's pitiful to see their image being rehabilitated.