RIP - Cedric McMillan - 04-12-22

[Matt]

Covid lol give me a break...

The guy abused steroids, suffered a heart condition from it and ultimately had a heart attack and died.

I.e. Exact same way Rhoden, Mcgarver, Sandoe(i could go on) died. You would have to be absolutely retarded not to see this common denominator. If I had to pin point the key factor Iwould say the upped dosages over the last decade. Possibly the extreme tren dosages. It seems they have to do this to compete today.

There's no proof he died of the vaccine, but we've had more bodybuilders die in the past two years than any other 2-year period in history.

[Straw Man]

There's no proof he died of the vaccine, but we've had more bodybuilders die in the past two years than any other 2-year period in history.

I'm going to need more than one data point to draw a conclusion

[mphgrove]

No disrespect, but I am expecting David Muir to bump this above Ukraine tomorrow evening. Why is Cedric’s death figuring as a major lead story on CNN online, BBC online, Fox News online, etc.? Is bodybuilding poised for a major comeback in mainstream media?

[AbrahamG]

No disrespect, but I am expecting David Muir to bump this above Ukraine tomorrow evening. Why is Cedric’s death figuring as a major lead story on CNN online, BBC online, Fox News online, etc.? Is bodybuilding poised for a major comeback in mainstream media?

 

[Flexacon]

No disrespect, but I am expecting David Muir to bump this above Ukraine tomorrow evening. Why is Cedric’s death figuring as a major lead story on CNN online, BBC online, Fox News online, etc.? Is bodybuilding poised for a major comeback in mainstream media?

He isn't actually joking. It was the most read news story on BBC online! Twilight zone stuff.

[Matt]

I'm going to need more than one data point to draw a conclusion

I agree with that - your mind is in the right price following that thought process.

My view is basically this:

Covid is not a big risk for non-elderly people without medical conditions, barring severe/morbid obesity [61% of American children who died of Covid were SEVERELY obese...I think that's BMI of, what, 30? 35?].

For me, 5.8.6", I think 266-lb is the start of the severe obesity range.

So a dude my height and 300 may struggle with Covid. Although incidentally, a Strongman friend of mine is exactly that, and managed to get out of Covid ok.

But it is a risk.

As for the vaccines - not as many people died as I thought would. Having said that, enough people did die that any other pharmaceutical would have been recalled by now.

I have one final note to you on that: have you noticed people are getting sicker more with successive boosters?

I have noticed that.

That happened wirh Primemuscle's daughter.

So I'd pay mind to that.

But if you've been vaxxed and boosted...my guess is you have good genetics for these vaccines.

My friend's mom got so sick with Covid despite getting the vaccine, that she is confident she received a placebo.

I can't comment on that. But I do think it was suspect that Pfizer was asking for 75 years to release the data until a judge forced them too.

So...I still have apprehensions here.

I myself need more data points - on all of it.

But honestly - I had Covid, and have no evidence I am at serious risk, given my age, health status, and body weight.

[Matt]

No disrespect, but I am expecting David Muir to bump this above Ukraine tomorrow evening. Why is Cedric’s death figuring as a major lead story on CNN online, BBC online, Fox News online, etc.? Is bodybuilding poised for a major comeback in mainstream media?

That's hilarious - first Flexacon posting it was on BBC, which I thought was a joke...and then I noticed an NBC article...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/obituaries/bodybuilding-champion-cedric-mcmillan-dead-44-rcna24224

Maybe they are getting traction from it by calling it a Covid death.

Whatever the cause - massive gear usage and being over 300-lb for years/decades is a comorbidity for all bodybuilders.

[BigRo]

Not sure if this has been posted already. Pose in Peace big man.

[Hendrixian]

Getting off gear and putting your family and kids first is completely out of question for these dudes, most literally prefer to die than to be normal. If a regular gym rat is insecure about his body, I imagine how a thong warrior must feel.

[rocket]

I know a fella who gets heart palpitations after every vaccine shot.  Totally healthy otherwise, scary stuff. 

[illuminati]

Getting off gear and putting your family and kids first is completely out of question for these dudes, most literally prefer to die than to be normal. If a regular gym rat is insecure about his body, I imagine how a thong warrior must feel.

And what about those who, Gamble,Drink,Smoke, take rec drugs Excessively Why Not also
Have a go at Them for Not Putting Family & Kids 1st most of them would literally prefer to Die
than be normal.

[Hendrixian]

And what about those who, Gamble,Drink,Smoke, take rec drugs Excessively Why Not also
Have a go at Them for Not Putting Family & Kids 1st most of them would literally prefer to Die
than be normal.

They are also stupid, that simple.

[The Keto Kid]

So you stop eating Friday night and restart Monday at breakfast, or is it Friday night till Sunday night?

Yeah but usually I'll start a fast a breakfast like Friday 7am to Sunday 7am, never eat before bed it just fucks up your circadian rhythm. Last week I did 3 days, sometimes you get in a zone and want to keep going.

[karasan]

Never understood why he humped Arnold after his win.
Arnold couldn't recover after this incident 

[Ronnie Rep]

not to beat a dead horse'no pun'intended but 70-90s bbers had issues and the ones who did there thing and stopped live what seems good healthish lives,this era is bad and the older guys who keep at it get really fuked up.they eat too much,juice too much,then diet to kill themselves...

QFT RIP Cedric

[rocket]

I don't have kids so I don't have the parental juice flowing and I can only imagine how strong that bond is, but even I find it incredibly hard to comprehend the idea of putting yourself in kidney failure or any of the other major problems these guys have landed themselves in and then just carrying on.  Pretty much everybody I know with kids would do anything for them, yet here we have these guys on large steroid doses and they're either that fucking stupid or selfish, that they are prepared to carry on and die when their kids are young and leave the mother to pick up the pieces.  It's very strange.  I am that selfish, I understand it - but I don't understand it if you're a parent.  They behave as if they don't have kids.  Bostin Lloyd is one of the strongest examples of that to me.  A likeable and seemingly rational guy completely manages to kill himself before he is 30, leaving what seemed to be essentially a perfect life behind.  I know he died of heart issue, but the writing was on the wall, regardless.  Now his girl has to pick herself back up and is currently stuck on instagram, a month or so later posting discount codes to keep the money up so she can be a single mother, raising his kid.  I don't care how decent he seemed, that's a raw deal for the rest of his family.

[The Keto Kid]

I don't have kids so I don't have the parental juice flowing and I can only imagine how strong that bond is, but even I find it incredibly hard to comprehend the idea of putting yourself in kidney failure or any of the other major problems these guys have landed themselves in and then just carrying on.  Pretty much everybody I know with kids would do anything for them, yet here we have these guys on large steroid doses and they're either that fucking stupid or selfish, that they are prepared to carry on and die when their kids are young and leave the mother to pick up the pieces.  It's very strange.  I am that selfish, I understand it - but I don't understand it if you're a parent.  They behave as if they don't have kids.  Bostin Lloyd is one of the strongest examples of that to me.  A likeable and seemingly rational guy completely manages to kill himself before he is 30, leaving what seemed to be essentially a perfect life behind.  I know he died of heart issue, but the writing was on the wall, regardless.  Now his girl has to pick herself back up and is currently stuck on instagram, a month or so later posting discount codes to keep the money up so she can be a single mother, raising his kid.  I don't care how decent he seemed, that's a raw deal for the rest of his family.

the difference is Cedric had life insurance and a military pension, not that it makes juicing in your 40s justified but at least his family is set financially,  at least for awhile.

[Matt]

the difference is Cedric had life insurance and a military pension, not that it makes juicing in your 40s justified but at least his family is set financially,  at least for awhile.

That's a good point. I sometimes think that I need to be here for my kids - but they will be set [at least for a while] if I'm not. Life insurance is important for that reason.

When I think of Cedric's death, I think - maybe I don't have much to complain about. It must truly suck to go through physical disease like that. There's something positive about when problems are only mental - even though I wouldn't wish either on anyone.

It's a shame that Cedric didn't slim down when these troubles started.

[Dave D]

How do you know he was vaccinated?

Great question!

How do you know he wasn’t?

[The Keto Kid]

Great question!

How do you know he wasn’t?

there's photos of him getting the vaccine I saw it posted somewhere yesterday, it's mandatory, all military personnel have to be vaccinated.

[rocket]

the difference is Cedric had life insurance and a military pension, not that it makes juicing in your 40s justified but at least his family is set financially,  at least for awhile.

That is good, but depending on the age of the kids, it's still abandoning the mother to basically be even more encumbered by bringing up the kids.  I know a single mother of 2 who has very little support from anybody and she barely has any time.  I have more life in a week than she probably does in 6 months.

[Van_Bilderass]

I don't remember where I just read it, but Cedric was in the hospital a few years ago with double sided pneumonia and an EF of 10% which is horrible.

I often speculated that he didn't push as hard as others because he lacked those very few last percent that would've made a huge difference. Years ago I said this fella IS practically already Mr O, he was just that good structure wise. Lee Haney said on IG he cried when he saw Cerdic for the first time, that's how good he was.

[Skylge]

Agreed

Seems like any time anyone dies these days this board always assumes its due to the vaccination even though adverse events are extremely rare

Apparently no one ever dropped dead before we had the covid vaccine

Using many sorts of gear for decades: completely safe.
Using growth hormones for many years: completely safe.
Using diuretics: completely safe.
Using medication to counter the side effects of steroids: completely safe.
Walking around at 300 lbs or more whilst being 5 ft 11 of even shorter and being in your forties: completely safe.

Getting a vaccine against covid-19: Omg, that must have killed him!

hahaha

[Skylge]

Do you laugh at cigarette smokers who get lung cancer?

Yep, guilty of that one   

I clean up cans, plastic and for instance cigarette packages if I'm walking / cycling somewhere on a beach or in nature. And I even say it out loud when I pick up a cigarette package: "I hope you get cancer!"

Filthy people who pollute their fatherland = scum we can do without.

[illuminati]

Using many sorts of gear for decades: completely safe.
Using growth hormones for many years: completely safe.
Using diuretics: completely safe.
Using medication to counter the side effects of steroids: completely safe.
Walking around at 300 lbs or more whilst being 5 ft 11 of even shorter and being in your forties: completely safe.

Getting a vaccine against covid-19: Omg, that must have killed him!

hahaha

Yes all of the above are probably not the wisest or best things to do.

Getting the vaccine maybe was the one step to far for his system to deal with.

who knows as the Truth & Facts around the vaccines is slowly emerging as
more & more Adverse reactions are becoming evident - The Vaccines are
Still in The Trial Phase at least for another year.